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by aaexecplat
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738851

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended

It's just breaking on CNBC that Trump called Muilenberg this past Sunday to talk about the Shutdown. Apparently he was just concerned whether or not they were laying off people. This is what I was expecting several pages back when you and I discussed this issue. If jobs are at stake, I suspect Trum...

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by aaexecplat
Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738851

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Not sure why giving money to Boeing would help anything. The main issue is that the MAX is not in service, no amount of government aid will change that. Besides, Boeing has plenty of assets, this is not a case where they could argue a dire threat to existence like airlines did in the aftermath of 9...

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by aaexecplat
Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738851

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

It must not be allowed that Boeing needs to lay off 12.000 American workers. the FAA needs to lift the grounding now. MCAS 1.0 was safe enough. Especially as everybody now knows how it works. First of all, if the plane isn't safe to RTS, then if 12k people have to temporarily be furloughed, then it...

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by aaexecplat
Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738851

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

The tech boom and crash was a bit different. You had companies blowing through venture capital with stock prices going through the roof while they had no realistic plan or business model to ever be profitable. The valuations now may be a little high but the market isn't going crazy for the most par...

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by aaexecplat
Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738851

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Really depends. The FAA doesn't really tell you what "Good enough" is. What they will tell you is if a submission is OK or if it needs more work. It is pretty common to put stuff in that you are pretty sure is just under the FAA's threshold and then get the feedback. This will be especial...

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by aaexecplat
Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738851

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

If the sim was running properly, accurately duplicating the MAX's flying qualities, then it indicates that Boeing was aware that MCAS was doing something that it shouldn't have, something that would presumably occur on the real aircraft. If the sim wasn't running properly, then Boeing knew that the...

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by aaexecplat
Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019, Production suspended
Replies: 5670
Views: 738851

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

If the sim was running properly, accurately duplicating the MAX's flying qualities, then it indicates that Boeing was aware that MCAS was doing something that it shouldn't have, something that would presumably occur on the real aircraft. If the sim wasn't running properly, then Boeing knew that the...

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by aaexecplat
Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Updated: US increases EU aircraft tariffs to 15%
Replies: 167
Views: 4400

Re: WTO green lights tariffs on Airbus, Trump ready.

I think the interesting bit about the article is that it says the tariffs will be aimed particularly at airplane parts in order to disrupt Airbus' ability to assemble aircraft at their Mobile FAL. It is my opinion that if these tariffs go into effect and cannot be negotiated away, the EU would be wi...

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by aaexecplat
Sun Sep 08, 2019 7:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA281 LHR-LAX frequent cancellations
Replies: 18
Views: 7261

Re: BA281 LHR-LAX frequent cancellations

Tomorrow has to be strike-related. Not sure about the prior 4 times.

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by aaexecplat
Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AUS eyes nonstop flights to 7 interc’l destinations: AMS, BJS, DUB, CDG, ICN, PVG, TYO
Replies: 227
Views: 32404

Re: AUS eyes nonstop flights to 7 interc’l destinations: AMS, BJS, DUB, CDG, ICN, PVG, TYO

Yep. We are not gonna do that. I'd even fly to DAL and ride the train to DFW than drive on I-35. Speaking from experience, I'm willing to wager that the drive from Boston to Newark or JFK, is significantly worse than AUS to DFW. And, I'm almost 100% positive that a significantly larger percentage o...

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by aaexecplat
Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AUS eyes nonstop flights to 7 interc’l destinations: AMS, BJS, DUB, CDG, ICN, PVG, TYO
Replies: 227
Views: 32404

Re: AUS eyes nonstop flights to 7 interc’l destinations: AMS, BJS, DUB, CDG, ICN, PVG, TYO

Yep. We are not gonna do that. I'd even fly to DAL and ride the train to DFW than drive on I-35. Speaking from experience, I'm willing to wager that the drive from Boston to Newark or JFK, is significantly worse than AUS to DFW. And, I'm almost 100% positive that a significantly larger percentage o...

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by aaexecplat
Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AUS eyes nonstop flights to 7 interc’l destinations: AMS, BJS, DUB, CDG, ICN, PVG, TYO
Replies: 227
Views: 32404

Re: AUS eyes nonstop flights to 7 interc’l destinations: AMS, BJS, DUB, CDG, ICN, PVG, TYO

It is kind of amusing reading the opinions of so many non-Austinites here. Unless you live here, you can't imagine the amount of wealth that is being minted here at present. And it isn't just tech wealth either. In terms of actual growth, the ATX population grew by 159 and 151 people each day in 201...

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by aaexecplat
Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: More Bad News for Boeing: Poor quality complaints from customers
Replies: 96
Views: 28104

Re: More Bad News for Boeing: Poor quality complaints from customers

Then, as the last private advertising and communications global left standing, all of the competition was bought by publicly traded holding companies, we were finally bought. Within just a few months EVERYTHING CHANGED, nobody cared about the work, EVERYTHING was about money. We were all served gia...

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by aaexecplat
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 4380
Views: 662783

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

"A change in software architecture" is not a 100% rewrite. Shall we say 70%? Without seeing the code or documentation, my educated guess is 10-20% code addition/modification worst case. Again, in many cases architecture changes are made to preserve the core logic, and this is almost certa...

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by aaexecplat
Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Q2 Results Miss Pre-737MAX Grounding Expectations by a Wide Margin
Replies: 18
Views: 3862

Re: Boeing Q2 results miss expectations by a wide margin

I said if this gets bad, it could send Boeing into Chapter 11. The only question is will the US tax payers allow it? With that said I do expect the 737MAX to fly again. But not until 2020. So, so silly. Boeing's earnings press release shows ample cash flow from other business. In fact, cash flow fo...

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by aaexecplat
Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 4380
Views: 662783

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

#Boeing reports biggest ever quarterly loss of almost $3bn as #boeing737max crisis bites hard and deep with little sign of when the plane will be back in the air. https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2019-07-24-Boeing-Reports-Second-Quarter-Results oh dear!! And from the press release: "Disciplined de...

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by aaexecplat
Fri Jul 19, 2019 7:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Expects a $5.6 Billion Hit for 737 Max Disruptions
Replies: 128
Views: 16147

Re: Boeing Expects a $5.6 Billion Hit for 737 Max Disruptions

Lol. I find it comical that the same folks who have derided the A380 program as catastrophic to Airbus on this site for months/years are now twisting themselves into a pretzel to describe this initial set of charges as inconsequential to Boeing.

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by aaexecplat
Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 4380
Views: 662783

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Interesting standards. We're OK with bad journalism at the headline and intro level as long as we eventually find good journalism? Evidence shows that most people won't wait for the good journalism to show up, they'll just run with the bad journalism. Look. I don't disagree with your general beef w...

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by aaexecplat
Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 411487

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Some context to a few points made here. I have hired and worked with outsourced talent (software engineering and call center) from India and the Philippines. There is nothing inherently wrong or bad with outsourcing. It can be a fantastic tool for companies to manage their cost for fairly modular b...

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by aaexecplat
Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 411487

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Some context to a few points made here. I have hired and worked with outsourced talent (software engineering and call center) from India and the Philippines. There is nothing inherently wrong or bad with outsourcing. It can be a fantastic tool for companies to manage their cost for fairly modular bu...

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by aaexecplat
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

But let the record show that I have been a member of this board for over a decade and have provided ample documentation to support my post, whereas you joined 2 months ago and have provided zero documentation whatsoever and have done nothing but muckrack here right at the time that Boeing needs som...

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by aaexecplat
Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Some of the information goes back only as far as 1992 leaving out the most of the money spent on the A300 launched in 1969, A320 launched in 1984, A330 and A340 launched in 1987. The Washington Post opinion piece was notable for it's misleading weasel words: Here is how it works: Since 1992 Europea...

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by aaexecplat
Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Every number is redacted. How can you claim that proves your speculation was right on the money? I knew this was going to be useless...Leave it to you to latch on to one thing, completely misapply it to what I said and then using that as an argument to refute me...where I was right on the money was...

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by aaexecplat
Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

thing is the 787 is only partly through the first half of its life cycle. boeing will almost certainly cell another 300 to 400 787s by the time ultrafan is ready. and a 787neo will almost undoubtedly sell several hundred units, probably more like a thousand. will the 787 be a massive financial succ...

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by aaexecplat
Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Sorry the burden of proof is on you. Don't expect me to do your research for you. Info about A380 RLI and repayments: https://simpleflying.com/airbus-a380-loan-dispute/ AND https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/taxpayers-braced-for-loss-on-730m-aid-for-airbus-superjumbo-xvjnjb93p Info about A320 progr...

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by aaexecplat
Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Not to mention that the (supposedly) $25 billion Airbus lost on the A380 includes development cost. The 787 deferred production cost calculation did not include development cost. Are you sure about that? What I found indicated that there was a total of $32 billion in development and deferrals which...

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by aaexecplat
Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Yes, I went back an reread your earlier post. Pro tip: When referencing an earlier post either link to it or provide the post number. Post #344 is long on speculation and short on facts, and peppered with phrases like "as far as I can tell," "it stands to reason," "what I d...

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by aaexecplat
Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

But it is difficult for me to see how the 787 will ever be a huge money maker Thanks for the back of the envelope estimates comparing the 787 and A380 losses. It does prove the point that if you bet right but screw up the execution, you still have a chance to make it up. The 787 will have the benef...

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by aaexecplat
Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Well, if you flip it around and see how Boeing messed up with the 787. One could say Boeing's lessons learned with the 787 would cost almost as much if not more than the A380 from a pure dollar standpoint. However, in the long run because they guessed right, the impact is not as glaring. Apples and...

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by aaexecplat
Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

When Airbus started thinking about the A380, and even when they launched it, Airbus was not seen as a manufacturer with a complete line; they needed something above the A330/340 combo. While a commercial disaster, the A380 did establish Airbus a true competitor. The fact that they can absorb the co...

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by aaexecplat
Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

No different than Boeing putting the gun to the head of several governors and threatening to move production if tax breaks were to not be extended or implemented... One minor difference, Boeing has given back to the community all the benefits they received by having successful airplane programs :re...

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by aaexecplat
Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

One nit: The A380 marks the first time that any EU State has ever taken a bath on an investment https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/10/21/airbus-seeks-cut-repayments-government-controversial-launch/ says "An earlier Airbus jet, the A340, received RLI funding but investors lost out on the...

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by aaexecplat
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 411487

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

The 737 Max program will probably never run at a profit in total but that is not really a problem, there is enough revenue generated elsewhere. So of the four current civil programs in production (737-MAX, 747-8, 777, and 787) two of them will never turn a total program profit and that's not a prob...

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by aaexecplat
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO
Replies: 564
Views: 56538

Re: A380 was success for Airbus, says new CEO

Good God this board has become a place of awful tribalism. I have seen little intellectual curiosity from several here to dissect the Airbus CEO's statement. And there is so much misinformation that I feel compelled to add some information: 1) If we define success as either making a profit in the pr...

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by aaexecplat
Tue May 28, 2019 2:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Tries to Seat 2-,4-,6-Year Old Children Separate from Parents
Replies: 105
Views: 14662

Re: United Tries to Seat 2-,4-,6-Year Old Children Separate from Parents

I can't speak to what happened in this news worthy event, but I CAN tell you that the same thing happened to me and my family in 2014. We were booked on IAH-LHR on UA. I was a UA 1k (still am) and we had 4 seats together in E+ for months before the flight. Except within 24 hours before the flight, U...

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by aaexecplat
Wed May 22, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Why Anet Is Declining
Replies: 81
Views: 20814

Re: Why Anet Is Declining

Another long-time member here. This site is only a shadow of itself. While it is ostensibly made up of "airplane enthusiasts" or avgeeks, most of the discussion in the Civil Av forum is now A vs B or some other tribalism. It has become impossible reading the threads in there and it is aggr...

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by aaexecplat
Sun May 12, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Etihad loses 5 star ranking
Replies: 55
Views: 11913

Re: Etihad loses 5 star ranking

I also can't make sense of the rankings. I have some flying on NH and TG in F and J coming up. All products I have flown before. And I can't even understand how they come up with what should be more of an objective rating like hard product/seat. Safe to ignore these ratings.

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by aaexecplat
Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 411487

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

So in the end I think Boeing 737Max will be judged on its economics, just like last year. Agreed - but does the MAX now carry more economic risk than A32x? i.e. When making a decision on what to buy will an airline ponder "what if MAX has another accident, regardless of the reason, is there a ...

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by aaexecplat
Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745319

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

And this is an issue how? Yes, because it questions if aerodynamics of the plane is sound. If review panel decides tailplane redesign is on order, god bless Boeing. And again, with no data on MCAS, this is not an impossible scenario. Worst case one, pessimistic, but not impossible. I doubt they wou...

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by aaexecplat
Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA300 JFK-LAX Hits object on takeoff!
Replies: 209
Views: 75104

Re: AA300 JFK-LAX Hits object on takeoff!

I was on this flight and it was the roughest takeoff by far I had ever been a part of. To the point I bought the internet after take off and texted my father within 8 minutes to tell him how bad it was. It took over 10 minutes for the pilot to tell us of an incident that he related to “computer pro...

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by aaexecplat
Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA300 JFK-LAX Hits object on takeoff!
Replies: 209
Views: 75104

Re: AA300 JFK-LAX Hits object on takeoff!

jfklganyc wrote:
I don’t know if this info helps ... 31R is closed til Nov.

Winds were 310 G 26. They were using the 4s and 31L KE

Assuming they took off on 4L, good crosswind


They took off on 31L.

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by aaexecplat
Mon Apr 08, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 742639

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

In my opinion... I think thats what happened. The Captain asked the FO if it was working and he tried his yoke switch. But there is absolutely no way to know. Why? Check the FDR plot. Hint: there is no electric trim input visible so we absolutely know that he did not continue using the yoke switch....

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by aaexecplat
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745319

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

But maybe it wasn’t engineered by the qualified engineers. Maybe it was engineered by management and accountants because when those people try to engineer something, you get junk like this that crashes and kills people. Why do you think over the years there have been, and I had contact with one for...

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by aaexecplat
Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 611151

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Classic example of the news outlets getting the headline wrong because the details are too complicated for them... How I read this is that JT changed the AOA sensor before JT43. And they assume it was faulty because it malfunctioned on JT43 and JT601. But they cannot have any idea whether the sensor...

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by aaexecplat
Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 742639

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

From https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-airplane-investigators/investigators-believe-anti-stall-system-activated-in-ethiopian-crash-wsj-idUSKCN1RA0E1 Investigators looking into a Boeing 737 MAX crash have reached a preliminary conclusion that an anti-stall system was activated before the p...

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by aaexecplat
Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 742639

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

What really surprises me is that it's claimed that the flight prior to the crashed lion air flight was flown fully manually for most of its duration. Means the pilots were using a handwheel to move the control surfaces. And in full manual mode their must be several other auto or help features bypas...

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by aaexecplat
Thu Mar 28, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745319

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

What I find fascinating is the belief held by some here that just because MCAS is now more limited in its authority, that this makes the plane automatically 100% safe. We still don't know what caused the stickshaker, unreliable airspeed and AOA readings. The assumption around these parts is that an...

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by aaexecplat
Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6476
Views: 745319

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

What I find fascinating is the belief held by some here that just because MCAS is now more limited in its authority, that this makes the plane automatically 100% safe. We still don't know what caused the stickshaker, unreliable airspeed and AOA readings. The assumption around these parts is that any...

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by aaexecplat
Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Garuda to keep 737MAX order, add 787s in agreement with Boeing
Replies: 162
Views: 43753

Re: Garuda may cancel remaining orders of 737 MAX

The crashes and the whole issue with the MAX's air worthiness might give them legal coverage to just void those contracts. It all depends of course how things play out regarding the certification of the aircraft being revoked by their respective countries. And even more importantly in which jurisdi...

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by aaexecplat
Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Garuda to keep 737MAX order, add 787s in agreement with Boeing
Replies: 162
Views: 43753

Re: Garuda may cancel remaining orders of 737 MAX

Hmmm, loosing Lion Air, Garuda and Jet Airways would wipe out 500 MAX orders = 10 per cent of the order book. Looks like trouble is ahead. However, I wonder how the airlines think they can get out of the contract with Boeing. I doubt that airline order contracts are drafted in a way that the airlin...

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