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by incitatus
Sat Aug 10, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas to deploy the 787 on the SYD-SCL route; increases service to daily
Replies: 27
Views: 6707

Re: Qantas to deploy the 787 on the SYD-SCL route; increases service to daily

Sao Paulo is a much larger market than Santiago or Buenos Aires. It is also a market than can grow with nonstop service to Australia & New Zealand as tourists and exchange students jump on the easier access. The winner airline is the one that gets to connect the two strong ends first: GRU and SYD.

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Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: American Airlines Increases International Presence, Makes First Entrance Into Africa
Replies: 508
Views: 93963

Re: Rumor: American to make huge announcement

What about LAX-Europe? LH/UA have no competition in Germany now that AirBerlin is gone and AF/DL all but have a monopoly on CDG. Seems like there would be some room for Euro growth in a market as large as LAX. As a seasonal route, instead of LAX-CDG which has a lot of service, LAX-NCE seems a lot m...

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Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s
Replies: 28
Views: 3899

Re: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s

http://timetableimages.com/ttimages/bn/bn63/bn63-11.jpg


Interesting schedule with two flights per week to Sao Paulo. The 707 landed in Viracopos and the DC-7 landed in Congonhas. At the time, Viracopos was brand new.
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dcajet wrote:


Interesting schedule with two flights per week to Sao Paulo. The 707 landed in Viracopos and the DC-7 landed in Congonhas. At the time, Viracopos was brand new.

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by incitatus
Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United going after hidden-city travellers
Replies: 372
Views: 32861

Re: United going after hidden-city travellers

Except you can’t separate out ingredients from ice cream. But you can buy Cracker Jax and refuse to eat the peanuts. Same as using a hidden city ticket. The ice cream analogy is quite interesting because it does not hold. In the case of a trip with a connection, the ingredients come separate. For i...

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by incitatus
Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA move to T5 in LHR?
Replies: 72
Views: 11574

Re: AA move to T5 in LHR?

There is a new T5 concourse to be located north of T5 parallel to the new third runway, as well as a new facility with gates connected to the west of the exiting T5 structure, this was revealed in the Heathrow master plan video, around 1:43 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_At_8ZfqSLo At the speed t...

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Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA lawsuit against TWU/IAM (redux)
Replies: 419
Views: 26950

Re: AA lawsuit against TWU/IAM (redux)

[(...) Doggie stated numerous times he will give the Association an industry leading contract, yet in five years he hasn’t. They are asking for the following: 1. Increases of outsourcing and a loss of 2,200 Mechanic jobs in heavy maintenance. 2. Increase of outsourcing of line maintenance and a los...

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by incitatus
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA lawsuit against TWU/IAM (redux)
Replies: 419
Views: 26950

Re: AA lawsuit against TWU/IAM (redux)

[(...) Doggie stated numerous times he will give the Association an industry leading contract, yet in five years he hasn’t. They are asking for the following: 1. Increases of outsourcing and a loss of 2,200 Mechanic jobs in heavy maintenance. 2. Increase of outsourcing of line maintenance and a los...

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by incitatus
Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: GOL wins bid for Avianca Brazil's slots at GRU, CGH & SDU
Replies: 14
Views: 2573

Re: GOL wins bid for Avianca Brazil's slots at GRU, CGH & SDU

Azul decided to sit out and not bid. The auction legality is questionable because Avianca does not own the slots. They are distributed by the government. Azul probably had good indication that the auction will be invalidated.

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by incitatus
Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP schedules first non stop A321LR service between Europa and South America
Replies: 105
Views: 19383

Re: TAP schedules first non stop A321LR service between Europa and South America

Regarding flight times, how much longer will an A321LR take compared with an A330/787 on a 3000nm-4000nm route? Will it be significant enough to become a problem? (Especially if 2 airlines operate the same route - one with an A321LR and the other with an A330/787) There's no need to guess since TP ...

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by incitatus
Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

(...) We have seen that many times over the decades. Newer generation aircraft displace older generation aircraft due to the improved efficiencies and cost. (...) But the rehashed 737 from the original mid-60s design is still here holding up against the mid-80s A320. Derivatives from previous gener...

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by incitatus
Wed Jun 26, 2019 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH will look at A321XLR, but it's no game-changer: CEO
Replies: 183
Views: 24856

Re: LH will look at A321XLR, but it's no game-changer: CEO

LH has a hold on the German/Swiss corporate travel market through strong hubs in Zurich, Frankfurt and Munich. Here is how the game changes for them: US carriers will pick apart the transatlantic demand from all other secondary markets that are today loyal to LH, using narrowbodies nonstop to the US...

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by incitatus
Wed Jun 26, 2019 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

(...) All the official press documents have stated widebody with narrowbody economics and have not mentioned 7ab. That is an airliners.net assumption. (...) Can we all agree that "widebody with narrowbody economics" cannot exist? Unless we are comparing different generation aircraft. Of c...

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by incitatus
Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

(...) Meanwhile, Boeing should forget NMA, and go with MAX-10 and a castrated 787, because that will make the stock holders happiest? I think I'll stick with the sarcasm tags, TYVM. I never suggested any sort of yet another 737 derivative, even if just a slight stretch, nor have I brought up Boeing...

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by incitatus
Tue Jun 25, 2019 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

More on topic; I see no reason whatsoever Airbus cannot respond to the NMA sandwiching it further with a stretched 322 alongside a next-gen 8AB that has a much different focus then the original A300. <sarcasm> And if everyone is consistent they will tell you that a next-gen 8AB will undermine the 9...

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by incitatus
Tue Jun 25, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

(...) Interestingly enough, LH's CEO just said the XLR is not a game changer and said it was not comfortable to spend more than four hours on a flight in a narrow-bodied aircraft ( ref: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1425571 ). Seems he is reading from the NMA play book. Wh...

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by incitatus
Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

I'm afraid you really don't understand the point about 7 abreast seating. You essentially need to add the width of 2 aisles to your fuselage to gain the benefit of only one extra aisle. (...) Let me add to that. Then once one has added the second aisle for 7-abreast, it becomes irresistible to turn...

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by incitatus
Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: More details on BOOM SST at Paris. SFO to Toyko in 5.5 hours. First flight in 2020...
Replies: 102
Views: 12928

Re: More details on BOOM SST at Paris. SFO to Toyko in 5.5 hours. First flight in 2020...

GoSharks wrote:
NRT-SFO timing is awfully rough on the body. Worse than a domestic SFO-NYC redeye. When you land at 9am, you body thinks it is 1am. Bedtime!


I agree. That is no different from JFK-LHR with a 6 pm departure. It is an extremely popular departure time and I've done it many times.

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by incitatus
Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

I still think you are thinking too big. NMA-S could be about 752 Capacity and NMA-M 753 Capacity - albeit with longer range. The A321 XLR won't be 48.5T OEW - The NEO is already over 50T and the XLR could be 51-52T with the new heavier gear and bigger fuel tank/plumbing. The NMA could be more in th...

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by incitatus
Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: More details on BOOM SST at Paris. SFO to Toyko in 5.5 hours. First flight in 2020...
Replies: 102
Views: 12928

Re: More details on BOOM SST at Paris. SFO to Toyko in 5.5 hours. First flight in 2020...

(...) If you run as follows: Schedule ex NRT at 21:00 and arrive in SFO at 09:30. Schedule ex SFO at 11:00 and arrive in NRT at 09:30. You then can't use the aircraft again ex NRT until 18:00 earliest (06:30 arrival into SFO). The time differences and the block times mean that your realistic utilis...

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by incitatus
Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announcing Something Tomorrow (Space Theme)
Replies: 100
Views: 18321

Re: United Announcing Something Big Tomorrow (Space Theme)

India has gone to space. Is that the announcement?

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by incitatus
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

Here is how the the world consumes aircraft for 2800-5000mi flights today: Number of departures per day Distance Miles - Wide - Narrow 2800-2999 - 222 - 103 3000-3199 - 178 - 67 3200-3399 - 251 - 62 3400-3599 - 289 - 23 3600-3799 - 300 - 24 3800-3999 - 313 - 7 4000-4199 - 287 - 1 4200-4399 - 240 - 0...

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by incitatus
Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announcing Something Tomorrow (Space Theme)
Replies: 100
Views: 18321

Re: United Announcing Something Big Tomorrow (Space Theme)

They replacing meal service with the meals-in-a-pill used by astronauts.

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by incitatus
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

(...) I think A321x is the 757 to NMA's 767. At PAS Randy T described A321 as holding a "sliver" of the market NMA is targeting. I think this indicates the NMA really isn't aiming for the same market as A321. (...) I think the narrow body has never been on the table because it would provi...

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by incitatus
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: AA agrees to order 50 Airbus A321XLR's
Replies: 325
Views: 53103

Re: Updated: AA agrees to order 50 Airbus A321XLR's

We don't have to be in an either/or situation. The market supports a "warmed over" A330neo with a lot of overlap with "clean sheet" 787 and A350 that have more seats, more range and even better economy. The market can support "warmed over" A321neo/A321lr/A321xlr with a...

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by incitatus
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

The smaller NMA, I agree there's a market and potential for growth for more route openings. It can also be densely configured for shorter routes. The longer 2 class 270 pax would only take away 787-9 sales. Airbus do not care about A339 taking some sales away from A359 because it cost them just 2B ...

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by incitatus
Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: AA agrees to order 50 Airbus A321XLR's
Replies: 325
Views: 53103

Re: Updated: American ordered A321xLR

gatibosgru wrote:
I hope they run these out of MIA too to places like BSB and CNF.


The Brazilian economy continues to do poorly. Brazil needs to grow a total of about 40% to make the secondary markets feasible.

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by incitatus
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2018/7/6/9932311-1530882192901148_origin.png Ref: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4185774-boeing-797-sales-potential-175-billion ] This chart shows there is indeed a gap in the market, but it does not show the whole story. Our planet does not need this chart...

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by incitatus
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

I see more of fear on your part. The 777 killed the A340 because it flew farther and faster with more passengers than the A340. ETOPS was the icing on the cake I see the same scenario with the NMA. Fly farther with more passengers (....) :crowded: ___ :crowded: Fly farther with more passengers gene...

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by incitatus
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

(...) The opportunity is for NMA to be to A321XLR what 787 is to A330, bigger, mostly CFRP design, better fuel burn, lower maintenance, etc. All this careful scrubbing of the business plan should tell us that if they do launch they are confident that they can make money building it. I think you are...

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by incitatus
Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Re: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

What I have in mind is more about the productivity of the aircraft. If the NMA can save a significant time spent in cruise compared to the XLR, it could allow some airlines to squeeze one extra flight per day, hence providing more revenue generation potential than the XLR. This could be a way to ju...

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by incitatus
Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR
Replies: 409
Views: 45785

Business Risk for Boeing: The A321XLR

There is great demand for an aircraft such as the -XLR. The most evident one is Transatlantic, where the 757 is still used and a replacement is overdue. But there is also Europe to the Middle East and Africa, intra-Asia, and North-South America. There are other thin and small markets out there and w...

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by incitatus
Thu May 30, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown
Replies: 267
Views: 21790

Re: AA sues IAM-TWU Association over alleged slowdown

It’s outsourcing according to the CBA agreed to by AA and the union. So you are wrong. Every US airline has multiple aircraft sitting all day long in GRU. Having some sort of decent facility there so that aircraft can land in the US clean for more flying makes very much sense. Now, no foreign compa...

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by incitatus
Wed May 29, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: When will AA become less hostile to foreign airlines that aren’t partnered with them or in ow?
Replies: 31
Views: 2656

Re: When will AA become less hostile to foreign airlines that aren’t partnered with them or in ow?

I do not see AA as particularly hostile to other airlines. DL is at least as much. While I lover traveling LH, I think they spare no one, and play a very rough game even with their partners. LH is much more aggressive than any US airline.

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by incitatus
Tue May 28, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 5/26/2019:AA Exits CLT-GDL,PHL-EYW/SRQ/MLB to daily;AV Exits MIA-SAL;SY Extension;UA Tweaks
Replies: 98
Views: 13725

Re: OAG Changes 5/26/2019:AA Exits CLT-GDL,PHL-EYW/SRQ/MLB to daily;AV Exits MIA-SAL;SY Extension;UA Tweaks

Avianca Brasil (O6) schedule is a work of fiction. They have not flown to the US since April. A few weeks ago they trimmed their domestic Brazil schedule to only 4 airports - Rio, SP, Brasilia and Salvador. They had been hoping to keep a modicum of operation to auction assets and slots. They were gr...

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by incitatus
Mon May 06, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 5/5/2019: DL Appears to Exit JFK-GIG, to Add JFK-BOM;UA;CZ Cuts CAN;HU Adds CTU-ORD,LAX-XIY
Replies: 61
Views: 12739

Re: OAG Changes 5/5/2019: DL Appears to Exit JFK-GIG, to Add JFK-BOM;UA;CZ Cuts CAN;HU Adds CTU-ORD,LAX-XIY

Sad to see JFK-GIG go. Wonder what it was for? GIG has almost come full-circle boom-bust back to 2004. At that time, for a few months, TP and AA were the only foreign carriers offering nonstop service to the US and Europe. Most other carriers that served the airport had a hop from GRU. It is still ...

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by incitatus
Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LATAM suspends GRU-FCO route
Replies: 47
Views: 6204

Re: LATAM suspends GRU-FCO route

1. The Argentina air market continues to grow, both domestically and internationally. Keep in mind that while outbound travel is down ~5% YoY, inbound travel is up by 15%, fueled by record arrivals of tourists into the country, (...) Depending on the month the seat supply in and out of Argentina is...

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by incitatus
Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca Holdings CEO is out
Replies: 14
Views: 1843

Re: Avianca Holdings CEO is out

This is all good news for Latam (that is, Lan Chile).

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by incitatus
Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO
Replies: 145
Views: 28623

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

airbazar wrote:
TP has an interline agreement with DL. ATL is a huge DL hub. TP should have no problem getting a fair bit of connections at ATL.


Good point. It works as long as DL is willing to keep the spigot open.

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by incitatus
Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA - LATAM reapply for ATI JV
Replies: 62
Views: 8262

Re: AA - LATAM reapply for ATI JV

gatibosgru wrote:

Crazy how there's virtually no lcc competition between Brazil (or deep South America at that) and the US


There is. It is called Copa. The fact their hub is in a third country is a mere accident.

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by incitatus
Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas PER-LHR marks 1 year of operation, route exceeds expectations
Replies: 47
Views: 8565

Re: Qantas PER-LHR marks 1 year of operation, route exceeds expectations

I think QF would have no trouble selling PER-LHR twice daily. The choice of departure and arrival times would draw passengers now flying on other airlines.

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by incitatus
Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?
Replies: 188
Views: 21432

Re: Why Are Bus Boardings so Common in Europe and so Rare in the USA?

Because many Americans (rightly) recognize it as a sub-standard experience (weather!) and won't put up with it. Just how quickly did AS order E75s and start jet-bridge loading (and parking Q400s) as soon as DL brought competition to SEA-regional routes? I agree with that. While I enjoy the experien...

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by incitatus
Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NH expanding North America routes in 2020
Replies: 82
Views: 12051

Re: NH expanding North America routes in 2020

PTY as a destination for ANA? Really? ANA is a premium-heavy airline. They have large business class sections. A flight to PTY would drill a financial role the size of the Grand Canyon.

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by incitatus
Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: Delta announces JFK-BOM
Replies: 1013
Views: 147668

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

That was just a typo on Delta's part that generated 700+ comments in a.net. They meant to say Delta will be serving India-na in 2019!

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by incitatus
Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP announces 118 million € losses
Replies: 42
Views: 6817

Re: TAP announces 118 million € losses

TAP is a survivor. Look at their peer group from the past: Sabena, Swissair, British Caledonian, Malev, Austrian, JAT, Finnair, Czech. Very few still around.

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by incitatus
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC to start YUL-GRU, YVR-AKL and YYZ-UIO
Replies: 77
Views: 11935

Re: AC to start YUL-GRU, YVR-AKL and YYZ-UIO

I assume AC also looked at YUL-GIG and decided for GRU.

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by incitatus
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Airbus accept any more A380 orders ?
Replies: 95
Views: 13558

Re: Will Airbus accept any more A380 orders ?

Something I don't understand about this whole mess is why AB doesn't try to freeze the manufacturing capability, instead of completely shutting the line down. Freezing, as in: no more new builds for some years to come - but the line could be re-started with two, three years advance warning, if some...

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by incitatus
Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021
Replies: 870
Views: 104890

Re: [Rumor] Airbus to announce end of A380 production

BlueSky1976 wrote:
A380 sales still obliterated those of 747-8i. Which is a good thing. And it is Airbus Industrie that will go down in history as the one who built largest passenger jetliner.


I am pretty sure Airbus would have taken profits in lieu of that special place in history.

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by incitatus
Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aviation Analyst: QR Announces A380 To Be Retired After 10 Years; 777X Will Be Initial Replacement
Replies: 53
Views: 14913

Re: QR Announces A380 To Be Retired After 10 Years; 777X Will Be Initial Replacement

AsiaTravel wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
I don't think it's an accident EK ordered 150 777x's and has about that many
380's to replace as their leases expire.


They would need twice the number of 777x for this to be true. The 777 will have to be retired too.


Not quite. The right ratio would be about 3 777X for every 2 A380.

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by incitatus
Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:22 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Best seatmates you've ever had?
Replies: 27
Views: 2061

Re: Best seatmates you've ever had?

Met my wife on MIADFW on American. Also had a girlfriend whom I met on LAXJFK.

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by incitatus
Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WSJ reports JFK Terminal 8 to get $344M Renovation to host AA and BA
Replies: 100
Views: 14521

Re: WSJ reports JFK Terminal 8 to get $344M Renovation to host AA and BA

$344 million in New York is enough to build a nice townhouse!

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