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by NZ6
Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

But there's so not absolute clarity on the exact numbers of revenue passengers flying WLG-SIN on SQ. Yes there is. Eg. Jan19 Airline Country by Port says WLG-MEL on SQ was 5,000 pax. This is just the local traffic. Then Jan19 seat utilisaion singapore airlines to country New Zealand says 8,431 pax ...

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by NZ6
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Re BITRE 44% WLG-MEL-SIN traffic... But how do you know those MEL-SIN pax are on the ex WLG flight? My understanding is transit pax are not included in BITRE stats. Probably the best example IIRC is to look at UTA loads ex SYD in the 90's- there was only one CDG flight/week that always arrived full...

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by NZ6
Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Unfortunately for WLG SQ247 SIN-MEL-WLG is the prime overnight service SIN-MEL departing SIN at 20:05 and arriving MEL at 06:30 (before the other overnight options) and so it will always be in demand from the MEL market. Also generally rev/km reduces by distance and so the MEL-SIN market will be mo...

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by NZ6
Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

They cant fill the whole plane with long haul traffic as 1) many of the MEL-SIN seats are taken by the MEL long haul market (some of which will be higher yielding than WLG so makes sense to carry them) They can or could....they just don't or can't. Gosh, that's a headache. What I'm saying is, if WL...

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by NZ6
Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

They cant fill the whole plane with long haul traffic as 1) many of the MEL-SIN seats are taken by the MEL long haul market (some of which will be higher yielding than WLG so makes sense to carry them) They can or could....they just don't or can't. Gosh, that's a headache. What I'm saying is, if WL...

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by NZ6
Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Any information of monthly one way passenger movement from Wellington to Singapore taking SQ 247/248? As others have said, it's almost impossible to tell... What I do hear and see a lot is a) The flights are reasonably full WLG-MEL and also MEL-SIN b) Availability on the flight seems to be wide ope...

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by NZ6
Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

NZ/TG working closer together probably isn’t that likely? I thought of it as well though. I thought HKT would be a good potential option after DPS/SGN, though maybe NZ will find other uses for their fleet like more SIN maybe more HKG/NRT year round KIX. Out of interest why do you say NZ/TG working ...

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by NZ6
Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

If that's the case, then I'd presume that they'd go for a year-round service. TBH, I don't understand why people might want to go to BKK, but that's just me. Having said that, my partner and I are off there soon for her to have some dental work done. Not my favourite place, but I'll endure it. Agre...

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by NZ6
Sat Aug 17, 2019 1:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

I'd be less confident about BKK as an NZ destination given that any connection traffic would be at the expense of the close partnership with SQ. I'm guessing that the bulk of that traffic would be to the subcontinent and to China. It's interesting to note that TG has twice as many destinations (12)...

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by NZ6
Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Can someone tell me why doesn't Air NZ or any other airline start a AKL- KUL- AKL service? Is there simply not enough pax to justify it? The reason I ask is, Malaysia Airlines product is so bad on this route now that they are using the Ex Berline A330-200s product on this route. Their business prod...

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by NZ6
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Just regarding our brief mention of a hostel type facility at AKL, NZ6, in a previous thread, I do think there'd be a market. All those early morning departures to Australia make life pretty sleepless for the backpackers crowd. 8 bed dorms for $40 for say, 8 hours, would go down very well, I'd say....

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by NZ6
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

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by NZ6
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

I think we're talking about two distinct markets: (a) Tasman/Pacific thin routes and (b) long domestic ATR and thin A320 routes. We probably are, I thought two scenarios of where NZ could use an A220 were brought up. Tasman and Domestic. My comments were based on the second one and how an A220 coul...

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by NZ6
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

I think you're putting words in my mouth and have skimmed over what I wrote too lightly and read too much into it at the same time . . . ! I'm saying that the A220-100 beats the A320 in aircraft-mile costs, but is slightly worse per passenger-mile. This means that that where frequency is more of an...

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by NZ6
Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

The airline won't buy a new aircraft for "risky" and "unknown" new routes. They'll test the waters with older A320 first, besides the benefits of an A220 wouldn't outweigh all the risk around having that type in fleet vs just using what you have. With the benefit of some operati...

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by NZ6
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

is the time right for NZ to start expanding into secondary AUS cities? Yes. They need A220s for that though IMO. HBA and TSV should be first Yes, the A220 seems to be the best option. Interesting that one of the major customers (AF/KL) is pressing for a stretch to the -300 which would compete direc...

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by NZ6
Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

QFs announcement they will expand their US ops from BNE with flights to ORD and SFO has me thinking how much impact this could have on NZ. It is clear NZs strategy is to diversity the US market with new markets. Both IAH and ORD have been successfully launched in the last 4 years. As NZ loses their...

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by NZ6
Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Regarding the electric aircraft, while a full electric ATR is seducing, it clearly won't happen in the next 10 years. However it costs nothing to say it for PR purposes. Hybrid aircraft could be more plausible in the medium-term. According to Tom Enders (ex Airbus CEO): “ We believe that by 2030 pa...

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by NZ6
Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

There is work being done on flow cells, where you have liquid components allowing very fast recharging (cycle old fluid off, new fluid on), but they're not ready yet or for some time I'm no techo so please excuse me if this is a daft comment... When you say old fluid off, are we talking now about '...

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by NZ6
Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

I'm confused. If all you're saying is that we don't know how things will look in the mid-2020s then fine, we can't know, but in that case I dunno why we have a bunch of posts saying the answer should be the 78J. I'm simply saying (in response to all the 78J posts) that, as of now, with the benefit ...

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by NZ6
Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

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by NZ6
Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Luxon has just announced the 78Js, to great fanfare. But he doesn't see them as the eventual 77W replacement. He says specifically he expected the airline to be looking at the 35K and 77X as the 77W replacement. Nothing complicated about what he said. And of course the 77W decision is years away. B...

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by NZ6
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Hi Guys can you explain the timeline for 77W replacement, please? I.e., when you say 5-6 years, do you mean the replacement *order* will be in 5-6 years, or the first ordered aircraft will enter service in 5-6 years? It is a genuine question, and it makes a HUGE difference in the debate to me. If i...

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by NZ6
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Luxon has just announced the 78Js, to great fanfare. But he doesn't see them as the eventual 77W replacement. He says specifically he expected the airline to be looking at the 35K and 77X as the 77W replacement. Nothing complicated about what he said. And of course the 77W decision is years away. B...

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by NZ6
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 128
Views: 14877

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

I don't think it's all that complicated: - Obviously they haven't taken a decision on what will replace the 77Ws. They did take a decision to "compartmentalise" the 77W replacement – meaning they didn't build that into the new 78J/789/GEnX package, even though that order includes a number...

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by NZ6
Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12253951&fbclid=IwAR0KLuZMbgquS0TlAilh2miRM0-YAxwxFZ3xStxTWxl3db7b3UHvC7-_Mwg Things seem to be getting very New York-ish for this 1 August announcement. Lewis Leitt (Suits character) to star in the upcoming All Blacks saf...

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by NZ6
Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

A plain reading of Luxon’s comments is that NZ expect to be looking at the 35K or 77X come time to replace the 77Ws. That shouldn’t be a surprise: the 77Ws offer a lot more capability, and NZ are known both for their higher density cabins and for heavy cargo loads. The first half of that I agree wi...

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by NZ6
Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

As for the idea that the 78J could replace the 77W, an interview with Luxon in the latest Australian Aviation knocks that firmly on the head: I assume you're referring to this article, https://australianaviation.com.au/2019/07/air-new-zealand-looking-long-haul-with-latest-boeing-787-order Then by w...

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by NZ6
Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

I wouldn't rule out the 787-10 also serving as a 77W replacement. Sure it's a little smaller, but in the US market where the 77W operates size has given way to frequency and diversity of destinations. An all 787 fleet would have great advantages in scheduling and crewing. The 77X was talked about p...

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by NZ6
Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

Pier B is a prime example of AIALs cheap approach, it’s a tin shed, it’s cheap construction, there’s nothing nice about it all. But I'm sure we'd all prefer a 'tin shed' similar to Pier B for a new Domestic terminal over the current cramped overcrowded disgrace we call AKLD! Sadly, the actual build...

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by NZ6
Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

Wondering what NZ's short/medium-term long-haul fleet plan might be. Looking at the forthcoming summer, it seems to me that from my back-of-the-envelope calculations there's very little slack in the fleet (though various routes like EZE, ORD, TPE and ICN operate only 5x weekly, so there's potential...

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by NZ6
Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

Wondering what NZ's short/medium-term long-haul fleet plan might be. Looking at the forthcoming summer, it seems to me that from my back-of-the-envelope calculations there's very little slack in the fleet (though various routes like EZE, ORD, TPE and ICN operate only 5x weekly, so there's potential...

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by NZ6
Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

Imagine if they did something really imaginative, like a hostel or capsule hotel near the terminals? That would go down well with the budget conscious crowd and I'd imagine would beat sleeping int he airport. I'd imagine the number of backpackers transitting for lengthy periods would be too low. Mo...

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by NZ6
Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

It’s NZ as a country, just a general lack of vision as to what is actually going on, taking the ‘cheap’ option to upgrade existing infrastructure that expired years ago. I agree New Zealand to often takes the cheap option and delays key projects until it’s too late and costs twice the price to fix ...

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by NZ6
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

Does anyone know why the new domestic terminal seems to keep getting pushed back? Financially it just gets priced into airline charges. Do AIAL think the returns aren’t high enough? Are AirNZ/Jetstar holding it up in the consultation phase because they don’t want to pay for it? There's likely a lon...

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by NZ6
Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

I don't understand the criticism of AIAL for this? I might be wrong, but as far as i know, this is not an AIAL project but Accor's, so there will be next to zero investment from AIAL for this, i.e. it wouldn't take any funds or resources away from terminal/gate development. Don't get me wrong, I al...

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by NZ6
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

I don't understand the criticism of AIAL for this? I might be wrong, but as far as i know, this is not an AIAL project but Accor's, so there will be next to zero investment from AIAL for this, i.e. it wouldn't take any funds or resources away from terminal/gate development. Don't get me wrong, I al...

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by NZ6
Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

Talk about a slap in the face to the flying public, building a new hotel should only be after they have sorted out the dire domestic terminal situation. The primary job of an airport is getting passengers quickly and efficiently from the drop off point to the departure gate, it’s not building hotel...

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by NZ6
Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

Good point re the A321, it gives them more flexibility to match capacity to demand where 1 A321 is better than 2 A320s in this case for that season at least. Agree completely but it's still a bit of a negative when a really well-established route (CHC-MEL) goes sub-daily for an extended period. CHC...

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by NZ6
Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

My thought was CHC-LAX on the blueprint one Video 1, references CHC and LAX, Video 2 references YVR and KKE and video 3, EZE and WLG. In all 3 videos, they're comparing weather in one international and one domestic NZ destination as a 'conversation starter' (except in L.A it's the notorious LA traf...

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by NZ6
Fri Jul 19, 2019 2:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

My thought was CHC-LAX on the blueprint one Video 1, references CHC and LAX, Video 2 references YVR and KKE and video 3, EZE and WLG. In all 3 videos, they're comparing weather in one international and one domestic NZ destination as a 'conversation starter' (except in L.A it's the notorious LA traf...

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by NZ6
Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

Speaking of KIX, does anyone know how it is going for NZ How many times have you asked this sort of question without getting a reliable answer? You won't get this information from a forum. Firstly, it's commercially sensitive, the airline purposefully doesn't report on a specific route like this. Y...

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by NZ6
Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/285385/air-new-zealand-nw19-vancouver-aircraft-changes/ 789 to YVR from NW schedule. Unsure where the 772 goes and if it’s a code 1 or code 2, I’m picking it may be code 2, there are some AKL-CHC 789s to position them for CHC-SIN which is odd given ...

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by NZ6
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/285385/air-new-zealand-nw19-vancouver-aircraft-changes/ 789 to YVR from NW schedule. Unsure where the 772 goes and if it’s a code 1 or code 2, I’m picking it may be code 2, there are some AKL-CHC 789s to position them for CHC-SIN which is odd given ...

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by NZ6
Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

DavidByrne wrote:
NZ6 wrote:
Surely the risk over return is just awful.

Just a little gentle tease: surely your comments are exactly the sort of opinions based on half information etc that you (and I) despair of when applied to Air NZ?


I'm very tired after supporting the Black Caps most the night, what do you mean?

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by NZ6
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

Anyone Know which Airline this could be for sale in New Zealand https://www.businessesforsale.com/Regional-Airline-For-Sale-1.aspx Some of the details (regional airline based in Auckland, where the owners live, the price they want for it) sound suspiciously like FlyMySky. V/F If so, I struggle to s...

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by NZ6
Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

I'm glad, PAL is doing well in New Zealand Philippine Airlines to Sponsor the 2019 Travel Media Awards | Scoop News http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1907/S00277/philippine-airlines-to-sponsor-the-2019-travel-media-awards.htm Growing market awareness and presence yes, but I'm not sure where it says ...

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by NZ6
Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

CI intrigues me. Even after nearly 10 years at AKL, they're still doing the BNE tag. You'd imagine they'd either try to move to non-stop flights (at a reduced frequency), or drop AKL completely? Cheers, C. Perhaps look at their target market. I’ll take a guess, they see NZ as a small market best se...

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by NZ6
Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

Was doing a quick search last night for WLG - DTW fares for June next year to see if any UA flights were still scheduled for B757s. Some days only one flight via IAH came up, with other dates via IAH and LAX. Didn't see any ORD flights comes up. What surprised me was RAR came up as a booking option...

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by NZ6
Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019
Replies: 278
Views: 31489

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread -July 2019

planemanofnz wrote:
ZK-NBT wrote:
I’d imagine CI will up gauge to the 77W as usual.

CI intrigues me. Even after nearly 10 years at AKL, they're still doing the BNE tag. You'd imagine they'd either try to move to non-stop flights (at a reduced frequency), or drop AKL completely?

Cheers,

C.


Perhaps look at their target market.

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