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by redflyer
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing monopoly on the VLA market?
Replies: 95
Views: 10627

Re: Boeing monopoly on the VLA market?

New airplanes market is funny. So both A and B developed those two planes. One from scratch, with an investment so big A could be gone bankrupt, thankfully A320Neo family and A350 keeped them with the head out of the water. Don't forget the government subsidies Airbus benefited from, which helped t...

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by redflyer
Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021
Replies: 871
Views: 105863

Re: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021

15 years ago I always thought big airplanes will rule the sky, back then I really did not understand why Boeing did not pursue a proper VLA ( proper meaning not a double floored 747 but a new aircraft), well it is good that I am not in airline business or I would certainly loose money :) Don't worr...

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by redflyer
Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021
Replies: 871
Views: 105863

Re: [Rumor] Airbus to announce end of A380 production

The A380 is a unique and amazing aircraft, Anet, I feel, never gave it the respect it deserved and seemed to be constantly predicting, and at times, hoping for it's demise. Anet gave the A380 plenty of respect, depending on who was posting. But the fact is that those who predicted its failure saw t...

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by redflyer
Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How come quads outlasted trijets?
Replies: 86
Views: 15492

Re: How come quads outlasted trijets?

Efficiency isn't just about number of engines. Think of all that extra structure (weight) built into the tail to support that heavy third engine. Plus I'm sure someone else will have mentioned how tail engine maintenance is a PITA. I think putting that third engine in the tail just made it more com...

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by redflyer
Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 3491
Views: 432616

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Tankage in the wing is divided up by the wing stiffening plates with relatively small holes at the top and bottom dividing the wing into cells. That way in a bank the fuel doesn't race outward while the far wing fuel races inward. It is generally not good to have 20 tons of fuel move 5' sideways. A...

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by redflyer
Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
Replies: 695
Views: 89025

Re: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal

Jayafe wrote:
Buffalomatt1027 wrote:
- Passengers want direct flights from point to point and no the old wheel and spoke model airbus thought would still work


As long discussed, p2p market is a myth.


Just curious, but what is the myth of P2P markets?

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by redflyer
Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus offers China Industrial Partnership for A380 Programme
Replies: 126
Views: 19255

Re: Airbus offers China Industrial Partnership for A380 Programme

There is really a lot of ignorance going on here. Chinese civilian airspace is extremely congested due to military usage. There is only so many planes that can take off and land at congested air space at any given time. People are not willing to sit on a train for 2 hours to go to countryside becau...

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by redflyer
Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus offers China Industrial Partnership for A380 Programme
Replies: 126
Views: 19255

Re: Airbus offers China Industrial Partnership for A380 Programme

I always thought this was the most plausible solution to continue a380. There are plenty of trunk routes in china where a380 could be applied. Chinese air space is tight. All the major airports will be seriously slot constrained. Those major routes could all use a380 capacity. Slot constraints are ...

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by redflyer
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus offers China Industrial Partnership for A380 Programme
Replies: 126
Views: 19255

Re: Airbus offers China Industrial Partnership for A380 Programme

I always thought this was the most plausible solution to continue a380. There are plenty of trunk routes in china where a380 could be applied. Chinese air space is tight. All the major airports will be seriously slot constrained. Those major routes could all use a380 capacity. Slot constraints are ...

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by redflyer
Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X - Updated Information And Developments
Replies: 2650
Views: 261093

Re: Boeing 777X - Updated Information And Developments

The GE9X is ready for it's first flight. Holy cow! It's for sure an optical illusion but it really looks huge... :wideeyed: I'm not sure it is an optical illusion. I think it really is that big. What I find impressive is how small the core looks behind that enormous fan. As others have pointed out,...

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by redflyer
Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MAS A380 lost nose wheel on landing at KUL
Replies: 56
Views: 19908

Re: MAS A380 lost nose wheel on landing at KUL

Sometimes a good clean-up can pay for itself in fuel saved. Back in the days of the King's Cup Air Race, you would see competitors waxing their aircraft to an immaculate sheen, in the hope it would gain them ½kt extra airspeed which might make all the difference. Same philosophy; different end prod...

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by redflyer
Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330neo first flight on Oct 19th
Replies: 77
Views: 18018

Re: A330 neo first flight tomorrow Oct 19th

aviationjunky wrote:
The article says the A330 series is the most-flown widebody aircraft in the world. Is that true?

Most-flown in what regard? Number of aircraft in use; number of passengers flown?

rbrunner wrote:
Do we know at what time she is supposed to take to the skies?


Broadcast starts at 10:00 AM CET.

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by redflyer
Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL 767-400's to receive Delta One Suites 2019
Replies: 45
Views: 11470

Re: DL 767-400's to receive Delta One Suites 2019

Gosh, it's about time. I avoid DL's 764 fleet any chance I get. That's how bad the legacy interiors are. Too bad the upgrades are still 2 - 3 years off.

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by redflyer
Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Carriers vs The World
Replies: 36
Views: 3041

Re: US Carriers vs The World

Wondering why a global superpower, the US, can't seem to match the service of other foreign carriers. -High profits/aging fleets -Lack of or outdated wifi/IFE -Haggard/rude flight crews in very casual attire -Lackluster meal service if any -Reduced seat pitch -Inferior First/Biz class cabins I don'...

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by redflyer
Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MAS A380 lost nose wheel on landing at KUL
Replies: 56
Views: 19908

Re: MAS A380 lost nose wheel on landing at KUL

Of course. Any airline flying a dirty or shabby plane must be unsafe, right? :sarcastic: 843505,1693118 No, but if you have a filthy plane that happens to experience an unusual technical incident then there might be a connection. Might be. Sometimes a good clean-up can pay for itself in fuel saved....

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by redflyer
Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Scrapping the first A380
Replies: 17
Views: 7287

Re: Scapping the first A380

SomebodyInTLS wrote:
I'm pretty sure the very large CFRP and GLARE components will require different handling...



Which means the 787/A350 are the aircraft that will require the special handling considerations at end-of-service far more than the A380 ever will.

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:44 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: SWA Seating
Replies: 21
Views: 2258

Re: SWA Seating

I'll fly WN when I fly solo for business; otherwise, I just don't fly them anymore. Last time I flew them with family it was my wife, father-in-law, and me. We walked up to the gate agent and asked if my FIL, who was 87 at the time, could pre-board. The gal handed my wife and FIL pre-board passes an...

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by redflyer
Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Finally Announces Intentions to Serve Hawaii
Replies: 457
Views: 61007

Re: Southwest Finally Announces Intentions to Serve Hawaii

Hard to choose WN when HA offers a better product, with widebody comfort and a meal and of course assigned seating. Over the years I've flown less and less on WN and the whole check in process is just terribly annoying. Now as UA Premier Gold there is really no reason for me to fly WN. I fly less W...

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by redflyer
Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Finally Announces Intentions to Serve Hawaii
Replies: 457
Views: 61007

Re: Southwest Finally Announces Intentions to Serve Hawaii

IFE on WN is obviously BYOD. Is that too much to ask of passengers? I know this is mainly a matter of passenger opinion and/or preference. I guess I just don't see the NEED for any of those options. Get me to my destination comfortably, most importantly - SAFE, and on time, at a value I am willing ...

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by redflyer
Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:54 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Short On Cash For KC-46, U.S. Air Force Eyes Souped-Up KC-135
Replies: 26
Views: 5761

Re: Short On Cash For KC-46, U.S. Air Force Eyes Souped-Up KC-135

Stealth for a tanker depends a lot on what it's really going to be doing. If the tanker is going to be penetrating enemy airspace, it needs to be as stealthy as the fighters that it is serving. Existing tankers can operate in the battle theater without stealth and I'm sure they are expected to do s...

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by redflyer
Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 767-400 future
Replies: 46
Views: 11998

Re: 767-400 future

Apparently it's proving to be an excellent machine for UA and Delta since none has plans (correct me if I'm wrong) to get rid of them and all units produced are still in use. If that's the case I wish DL would at least update the interiors on their 400s. I fly about 200k miles a year with them and ...

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by redflyer
Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would PanAm have refreshed their livery if they were still around?
Replies: 41
Views: 6667

Re: Would PanAm have refreshed their livery if they were still around?

I doubt they would have messed with the blue meatball on the tail, but the lettering on the fuselage could have been tinkered with. I don't think they would have gotten rid of the blue meatball either, but I bet they would have tinkered with it. The OP's Photoshopped pic makes the overall livery lo...

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by redflyer
Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL defers last 10 A350s by at least 2-3 years
Replies: 204
Views: 45235

Re: Delta Reviewing Airbus Widebody Purchase in blow to Airbus

Planeflyer wrote:
I get the sense that most of industry has not yet realized that $50 oil is here for the next 20 years.


Don't be so sure. Just a mere 3 years ago people were saying $100/bbl oil was here to stay.

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by redflyer
Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Almost a Boeing Mea Culpa on the 787?
Replies: 25
Views: 10077

Re: Almost a Boeing Mea Culpa on the 787?

I was one of the people in those threads. One of the posters who came out just after the rollout and called LN1 a fraud, and that it wouldn't make the October (07) first flight but wouln't fly for a year or more was the most shouted down. I argued against him citing the regulations that a public co...

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by redflyer
Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American A320 loses engine cowl
Replies: 21
Views: 6153

Re: American A320 loses engine cowl

I'd be curious to know what happens when these cowls separate in flight. Do they hit any part of the aircraft or just move with the slip stream over the wing and then down and under the horizontal stab? On this particular incident, did they find the part on the ground? If it occurred shortly after t...

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by redflyer
Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NTSB Releases Report Of Phenom 300 Crash
Replies: 8
Views: 4955

NTSB Releases Report Of Phenom 300 Crash

Interesting that he wrecked a plane at the same airport 4 years prior because of another stall event.   

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by redflyer
Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Newest Delta Safety Demo
Replies: 49
Views: 6539

RE: Newest Delta Safety Demo

First, I'm glad the "Safety's" are gone. I think they had the longest run of any of their humor videos and I was ready to blow the exit hatch if I had to listen to one more. I have to say, I think this new one is the most professional safety video I've ever seen. I don't find it in the least boring ...

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by redflyer
Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Next To Upgrade Their Biz Class?
Replies: 41
Views: 10519

RE: DL Next To Upgrade Their Biz Class?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/flyinghippo" class="quote" target="_blank">flyinghippo</a> (<a href="#0" class="quote">Thread starter</a>):<br/><i> The current Delta One produc...

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by redflyer
Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:45 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: I'm Having A Hard Time Being A Meat Eater
Replies: 65
Views: 3614

RE: I'm Having A Hard Time Being A Meat Eater

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/AA7295" class="quote" target="_blank">AA7295</a> (<a href="#0" class="quote">Thread starter</a>):<br/><i>However, just now I saw this video: htt...

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by redflyer
Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:03 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Video: B747 And Spaceshuttle Transport
Replies: 1
Views: 5263

RE: Video: B747 And Spaceshuttle Transport

Ok, as cool as it was to see the close-ups of the configuration pulling up to a stop, I always wondered what the 747 carrier looked like on the inside. And to find out they had turned it into a mini-museum with photos of flights on the sidewalls was really amazing. Also loved the artwork showing the...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:50 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: US Bomber Contract Awarded Oct 27th
Replies: 66
Views: 22456

US Bomber Contract Awarded Oct 27th

Count me in the <acronym title="Lauda Air (Austria)">NG</acronym> corner as well. But I'm there only because I want to see the industrial base retained. Besides, <acronym title="ALM Antillean Airlines (Netherlands Antilles)">LM</acronym> and Boeing have had enough time at the government trough latel...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Clinton Says Airlines Are Gouging, DL Responds
Replies: 133
Views: 19792

RE: Clinton Says Airlines Are Gouging, DL Responds

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/MSPNWA" class="quote" target="_blank">MSPNWA</a> (<a href="#58" class="quote">Reply 58</a>):<br/><i>Besides, you never hear of people complainin...

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by redflyer
Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Clinton Says Airlines Are Gouging, DL Responds
Replies: 133
Views: 19792

RE: Clinton Says Airlines Are Gouging, DL Responds

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/DolphinAir747" class="quote" target="_blank">DolphinAir747</a> (<a href="#8" class="quote">Reply 8</a>):<br/><i>Leaving political opinions aside...

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by redflyer
Wed Oct 21, 2015 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Myth Or Reality - The Ideal Geography Of The ME3
Replies: 53
Views: 9952

RE: Myth Or Reality - The Ideal Geography Of The ME3

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/LAX772LR" class="quote" target="_blank">LAX772LR</a> (<a href="#35" class="quote">Reply 35</a>):<br/><i>The opposite can be true too though, whe...

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by redflyer
Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:24 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Apple Can't Help Feds Unlock IPhones
Replies: 18
Views: 2067

RE: Apple Can't Help Feds Unlock IPhones

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/kiwirob" class="quote" target="_blank">kiwirob</a> (<a href="#5" class="quote">Reply 5</a>):<br/><i>If Apple is really doing that then they are ...

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by redflyer
Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Myth Or Reality - The Ideal Geography Of The ME3
Replies: 53
Views: 9952

RE: Myth Or Reality - The Ideal Geography Of The ME3

What makes ME3 work, or any hub for that matter, is the relative ease to make it work as a hub for the airline. In other words, it's not the convenience or inconvenience to the traveler. It's the cost basis and the benefits to the carrier and any investors. If running a centralized hub were about th...

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by redflyer
Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:13 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Trudeau Wins Canada Election
Replies: 55
Views: 3848

RE: Trudeau Wins Canada Election

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/bmacleod" class="quote" target="_blank">bmacleod</a> (<a href="#0" class="quote">Thread starter</a>):<br/><i>Like George W Bush and John Q Adams...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:20 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Cockpit Video Of MD-90 In A Spin
Replies: 12
Views: 8102

RE: Cockpit Video Of MD-90 In A Spin

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/francoflier" class="quote" target="_blank">francoflier</a> (<a href="#4" class="quote">Reply 4</a>):<br/><i>although I'd be curious to know how ...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:52 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Apple Can't Help Feds Unlock IPhones
Replies: 18
Views: 2067

RE: Apple Can't Help Feds Unlock IPhones

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Aesma" class="quote" target="_blank">Aesma</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i>Either Apple will lose, or more probably Apple i...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Presses EK To Finance A380neo
Replies: 285
Views: 32915

RE: Airbus Presses EK To Finance A380neo

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Stitch" class="quote" target="_blank">Stitch</a> (<a href="#216" class="quote">Reply 216</a>):<br/><i>Boeing first worked on their continuous-wi...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:02 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Apple Can't Help Feds Unlock IPhones
Replies: 18
Views: 2067

Apple Can't Help Feds Unlock IPhones

While Apple does make sterling products, what I love even more is the fact that they seem to have blocked even their own ability to unlock an iPhone. According to this article from the WSJ, they filed papers with a court indicating that with current and future models they will be unable to unlock pa...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:00 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F-35C DT-II Test Complete
Replies: 6
Views: 5364

RE: F-35C DT-II Test Complete

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ThePointblank" class="quote" target="_blank">ThePointblank</a> (<a href="#4" class="quote">Reply 4</a>):<br/><i>The F-35 has Integrated Direct L...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 3:50 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Anyone Use Global Entry?
Replies: 18
Views: 2274

RE: Anyone Use Global Entry?

I've been using it for about two years now and I couldn't imagine not having it. I fly to Europe about twice a month so considering it's saving me about an hour each trip that adds up to a lot of saved time and aggravation. Interestingly, I just got an invite from <acronym title="Coimbra (- Bissaia ...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TWA 707 Freighters Had Painted Windows?
Replies: 16
Views: 4568

RE: TWA 707 Freighters Had Painted Windows?

I thought the more interesting aircraft in the link was the JAL DC-8, a few photos down from the TWA one that's the topic of discussion. This DC-8 landed short in San Francisco bay and sank 10 feet. She was refurbished/restored and continued in passenger service for another 15 years! Talk about a st...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:26 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Democrats In Deep Trouble
Replies: 31
Views: 2332

RE: Democrats In Deep Trouble

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/DocLightning" class="quote" target="_blank">DocLightning</a> (<a href="#3" class="quote">Reply 3</a>):<br/><i>For the vast majority of congressi...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:27 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: F-35C DT-II Test Complete
Replies: 6
Views: 5364

RE: F-35C DT-II Test Complete

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ThePointblank" class="quote" target="_blank">ThePointblank</a> (<a href="#0" class="quote">Thread starter</a>):<br/><i/></font></td></tr></table...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA To Regulate Drones?
Replies: 20
Views: 1689

RE: FAA To Regulate Drones?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ua900" class="quote" target="_blank">ua900</a> (<a href="#14" class="quote">Reply 14</a>):<br/><i>Where does it end? A wad of cash being grounds...

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by redflyer
Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:04 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Has Anyone In America Been Saved By A Gun?
Replies: 107
Views: 3615

RE: Has Anyone In America Been Saved By A Gun?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/MrHMSH" class="quote" target="_blank">MrHMSH</a> (<a href="#94" class="quote">Reply 94</a>):<br/><i>Words kill, but when has freedom of speech s...

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by redflyer
Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA To Regulate Drones?
Replies: 20
Views: 1689

RE: FAA To Regulate Drones?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ua900" class="quote" target="_blank">ua900</a> (<a href="#12" class="quote">Reply 12</a>):<br/><i>Well in recent years there have been many inci...

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by redflyer
Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:52 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Has Anyone In America Been Saved By A Gun?
Replies: 107
Views: 3615

RE: Has Anyone In America Been Saved By A Gun?

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/MaverickM11" class="quote" target="_blank">MaverickM11</a> (<a href="#84" class="quote">Reply 84</a>):<br/><i>Define "quickly" and "easily". Doe...

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