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by superjeff
Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s
Replies: 34
Views: 4657

Re: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s

I don't remember if the middle seats on the 707's or DC8's folded; I do remember that on the 727 fleet. On the DC-8-62 fleet they did once they had the "Ultra Space" interiors fitted, circa 1977-78. I believe that by then the 707s were gone from the fleet. The DC-8-55s did not receive the...

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by superjeff
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s
Replies: 34
Views: 4657

Re: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s

How many seats were on the Braniff DC8s v 707s? I saw BN advertising their aisle-window and center-seat folded down concept; curious if the cabin was prepared this way with center seatbacks folded down. Pity the person in the center seat! The Braniff DC8-62's had a 20F/144Y configuration; there wer...

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by superjeff
Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MAX-style winglets on 737NGs?
Replies: 29
Views: 5466

Re: MAX-style winglets on 737NGs?

Alaska also has installed them, and I think Delta has some on a number of 737's in their fleet.

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by superjeff
Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:53 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Ansett Australia Osaka - Brisbane - Sydney - Brisbane - Sydney - Osaka. Year 2000
Replies: 13
Views: 5963

Re: Ansett Australia Osaka - Brisbane - Sydney - Brisbane - Sydney - Osaka. Year 2000

Flew Ansett twice YD-ADL and ADL-MEL back in 1994. I thought they had a different feel ("Personality") from Qantas. More reserved, more formal. I thought similar to Delta in the U.S. back in the seventies. Great airline, miss 'em. And a great recollection. Thanks.

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by superjeff
Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s
Replies: 34
Views: 4657

Re: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s

Oh those were the days when US regulations (and the US labor unions) allowed a foreign national crew to work on a domestic sector. There are still a few very senior F/As at the AA base that used to work those LAX-SFO-SFO sectors. Those DC-8-62s flew really long segments (for the time), such as EZE-...

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by superjeff
Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s
Replies: 34
Views: 4657

Re: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s

I think the Brazilian Routes were ex-Panagra, and were ex LIM (Panagra had a major hub there, with North-South flights connecting to onward services from Lima to Rio, Sao Paulo, Santiago, as well as Arica at one point), LaPaz, Asuncion, and Buenos Aires. So I don't think you would have seen a 707-2...

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by superjeff
Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s
Replies: 34
Views: 4657

Re: Braniff aircraft to South America in 1970s

I think I saw Braniff pics of the 707 at GIG, didn't found by now but here is a poster in brazilian portuguese. But it's the 707-227 https://http2.mlstatic.com/prpg-propaganda-braniff-airways-1960-D_NQ_NP_143901-MLB20431344278_092015-F.webp https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-708152899-prpg-pro...

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by superjeff
Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tower Air
Replies: 96
Views: 15725

Re: Tower Air

Tower Air was based at JFK Airport and flew 747 classics (inherited from Pan Am and TWA). It flew out of a dilapidated, dedicated terminal in the cargo area, and served I think LAX, SFO, LAS, BRU, CDG, TLV, SDQ, SJU, and also operated military charters. Tired, old planes (very old) and a spotty rep...

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by superjeff
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022
Replies: 559
Views: 95210

Re: AF signs MOU for 60 A220 plus 30 options and 30 purchase rights, A380's to be retired by 2022

Delta's A220-300 will have an F cabin and total 130 seats. 149 seats will not feature generous pitch. That translates into a 30" pitch, which is perfectly tolerable for the very short-haul flights that European carriers tend to have, especially given the generous seat width of the jet, and the...

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by superjeff
Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Do any FBOs use jetways?
Replies: 25
Views: 5368

Re: Do any FBOs use jetways?

Good grief. it took to about post #31 (Longhornmaniac) to say it: "Fixed Base Operator". Many of us knew that but we could have skipped about 20 of the foregoing posts by simply asking the original question: What is a FBO?

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by superjeff
Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LO BUD-ORD Cancelled?
Replies: 11
Views: 4177

Re: LO BUD-ORD Cancelled?

Guys, let's not worry about personal opinions, PLEASE. As for LO and BUD, for a smaller European carrier, BUD seems like a good add - limited completion on some long haul routes. Yes, lots (no pun intended) have changed since the Malev days, but for summer seasonal, it isn't a bad route. And don't f...

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by superjeff
Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Tel Aviv airport is in Europe?
Replies: 27
Views: 5858

Re: Tel Aviv airport is in Europe?

Ashkenazi Jews make up the majority of the population of Isreal and trace their origin to Europe. Almost all of West Asia/Middle East don't even recognize Isrealsome barely tolerate). Its only in the last 2-3 decades Asian countries like India and China have warmed up to them. They were part of Asi...

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by superjeff
Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeromexico reports loss; cancels PVG, suspends 5 other international routes
Replies: 44
Views: 9884

Re: Aeromexico reports loss; cancels PVG, suspends 5 other international routes

MEX is perfectly placed to be a transfer hub between all of South America and North America. AM should be drowning in connecting traffic, but the combination of a lousy terminal and a lousy connecting experience (Mexican immigration rules currently require you to fully enter the country to connect,...

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by superjeff
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW/ATL/IAH & Hawaiian Cities Nonstop
Replies: 48
Views: 6685

Re: DFW/ATL/IAH & Hawaiian Cities Nonstop

Apparently Northwest Orient served HNL non-stop from ORD back in the 70’s using a 747. I’m pretty sure that Continental did ORD-HNL as well in 1970 or around there with either 707 or 747 or both. Not nonstop, they routed the flight ORD-LAX-HNL-LAX-ORD, and it was a 707-324. I don' t think (but coul...

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by superjeff
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW/ATL/IAH & Hawaiian Cities Nonstop
Replies: 48
Views: 6685

Re: DFW/ATL/IAH & Hawaiian Cities Nonstop

Apparently Northwest Orient served HNL non-stop from ORD back in the 70’s using a 747. I don't remember them using a 747, but I flew them HNL-ORD on a 707-351 in 1970. Me and six other passengers. it didn't last long. Didn’t NW also fly ORD-ITO at one point. WA briefly tried MSP-HNL back in the 70s...

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by superjeff
Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW/ATL/IAH & Hawaiian Cities Nonstop
Replies: 48
Views: 6685

Re: DFW/ATL/IAH & Hawaiian Cities Nonstop

TWA1985 wrote:
Apparently Northwest Orient served HNL non-stop from ORD back in the 70’s using a 747.



I don't remember them using a 747, but I flew them HNL-ORD on a 707-351 in 1970. Me and six other passengers. it didn't last long.

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by superjeff
Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta at LHR
Replies: 63
Views: 12023

Re: Delta at LHR

I also think you can't ignore AC. They're part of the JV with UA and LH; if you're going to have to fly to LHR with a connection somewhere, AC has some pretty decent options over YYZ. changing in Toronto is no more difficult than changing in Boston, Chicago, or New York, for example, and overall fli...

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by superjeff
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airliners Past: A Braniff Boeing 747 video
Replies: 36
Views: 4247

Re: Airliners Past: A Braniff Boeing 747 video

I recall seeing one of them in SEA. It was mostly silver with a stripe on it and Braniff slapped on. that was a 747-123 leased from American. American wouldn't allow Braniff to pain the whole airplane. They got it when they were awarded DFW-LGW, and they needed a second 747 to cover both DFW-HNL an...

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by superjeff
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airliners Past: A Braniff Boeing 747 video
Replies: 36
Views: 4247

Re: Airliners Past: A Braniff Boeing 747 video

I wonder how many 747 flight crews Braniff had for just that one airliner? Until deregulation, I'm not sure, but tbefore deregulation, when they only flew the DFW-HNL route with the 747, he typical schedule was a flight crew would make one round trip a week; multiply by 7 and add a cushion and you ...

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by superjeff
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airliners Past: A Braniff Boeing 747 video
Replies: 36
Views: 4247

Re: Airliners Past: A Braniff Boeing 747 video

Those were the days of low load factors. Cool video thanks. I thought Braniff only ever used the 747 DAL-HNL. Initially, only DAL-HNL-DAL. When DFW opened they moved the flight to DFW-HNL-DFW. After deregulation took effect there were a few domestic tag-ons to move airplanes around. DFW-SEA-HNL was...

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by superjeff
Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: American Airlines To Introduce Free WiFi
Replies: 54
Views: 7906

Re: Rumor: American Airlines To Introduce Free WiFi

https://onemileatatime.com/american-airlines-free-wifi/ Interesting development and rumor. Looks like AA's following Delta's path to free WiFi. Personally, I would really like this. However, I'm honestly not sure if AA's ViaSat provider is capable of giving free WiFi to an entire plane. Flew PHX-AN...

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by superjeff
Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Complaint filed against Boeing and WN over 737 MAX safety issues
Replies: 90
Views: 13090

Re: Boeing and WN sued over 737 MAX safety issues

What are the damages the plaintiffs are claiming? Nothing. Its a complaint. Actually it is a "Complaint", not a "complaint". The difference is that with the upper case "C" it identifies the originating document for a lawsuit (sometimes also called a "Petition"...

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by superjeff
Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended
Replies: 107
Views: 22324

Re: Via Air in trouble: majority of flights suspended

Via Airlines sold...... https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-ne-via-air-sold-20190711-k7vq45asgjck7jdvhg7h652mcm-story.html Glad they've got new ownership - the previous owners were apparently incapable of operating an airline - but if they can't restart service quickly are they actually going t...

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by superjeff
Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Complaint filed against Boeing and WN over 737 MAX safety issues
Replies: 90
Views: 13090

Re: Boeing and WN sued over 737 MAX safety issues

This seems like a typical attempt at a class action lawsuit. I find it interesting they didn't add United (which also has 73Max equipment), and which also has bought Boeing over the years. Damages claimed and damages awarded are going to come out much later; the possibility is really that the lawyer...

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by superjeff
Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Volaris cancels ABQ-CUU Flights
Replies: 18
Views: 2713

Re: Volaris cancels ABQ-CUU Flights

that's always been the problem with ELP-MEX; there's Juarez just across the border. Unless they come up with a way to do a land bridge, a la SAN and TIJ, it probably won't work. I think there's been some commuter transborder flights out of ELP over the years, but it has been a very very long time si...

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by superjeff
Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:37 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: CLT-AMS AA vs. DL/KL
Replies: 37
Views: 3535

Re: CLT-AMS AA vs. DL/KL

I think MAH4546 is correct. Delta would rather move whatever AMS traffic there is from CLT through either ATL or JFK; I don't think there is enough O&D traffic from CLT to make such a flight viable for them. AA has plenty of feed, but they have enough problems filling planes to AMS from PHL, and...

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by superjeff
Tue Jul 02, 2019 2:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney launching their own airline?
Replies: 168
Views: 23986

Re: Disney launching their own airline?

The comparison to Carnival is off, as they own a whole bunch of other lines, including Princess, Holland America, and others, in various price classes. The merger of Carnival Airlines with Pan Am II was to create a bigger, stronger airline that could compete. it backfired, as we all know 20 years o...

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by superjeff
Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Disney launching their own airline?
Replies: 168
Views: 23986

Re: Disney launching their own airline?

The comparison to Carnival is off, as they own a whole bunch of other lines, including Princess, Holland America, and others, in various price classes. The merger of Carnival Airlines with Pan Am II was to create a bigger, stronger airline that could compete. it backfired, as we all know 20 years on.

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by superjeff
Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019
Replies: 906
Views: 109150

Re: New Orleans Aviation Thread - 2019

Not all third-party lounges are created the same. From what I've heard, while Centurion Lounges are considered some of the best, "The Club" (which is what MSY is getting) is kinda crap relative to SkyClub or United Club. I think it kind of depends on the particular lounge. Some of "T...

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by superjeff
Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: WestJet’s Boeing 787-9 Transatlantic Business Class Experience
Replies: 11
Views: 5660

Re: WestJet’s Boeing 787-9 Transatlantic Business Class Experience

Enjoyed your report, but a couple of nits to pick: the plural of staff is staff, not staffs. Plural of popcorn is popcorn, not popcorns. As for the actual report, I understand that WestJet is converting all of their narrow bodies to a 2 class model, with a 2 x 2 Business Class section (designed to b...

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by superjeff
Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS expands presence at DAL
Replies: 228
Views: 30099

Re: AS expands presence at DAL

With all the growth to the north, i'd think McKinney would be a olace I'd want to set up shop, not expand DAL when more WA restrictions sunset. NIMBYs will keep McKinney from having commercial service which i can understand their plight. DFW has more than enough capacity with its airports. As soon ...

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by superjeff
Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cape air to order and be launch customer of all-electric aircraft
Replies: 84
Views: 9678

Re: Cape air to order and be launch customer of all-electric aircraft

usxguy wrote:
Mokulele is supposed to be testing an electric-powered aircraft on Kahului-Hana sometime later this year.


that's about 26 miles (4 hours by car) and would work for Mokulele to Mokulele connections. Maybe one or two flights a day is all that market will support, 99% tourism.

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by superjeff
Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lockheed pitched five ‘white tail’ L-1011-500s to TWA
Replies: 36
Views: 11774

Re: Lockheed pitched five ‘white tail’ L-1011-500s to TWA

Well said, TW870. Another HUGE advantage NW had that enabled them to make money with 747s and DC-10s, besides their Asia route system, was that they had by far the lowest costs of any US airline. In the 1970s, when Northwest president Donald Nyrop made presentations on Wall Street, he would show tw...

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by superjeff
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:42 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Largest unserved city pairs due to politics
Replies: 70
Views: 6243

Re: Largest unserved city pairs due to politics

IKA-LAX and IKA-TLV would be up there. BEY-DTW I assume would have a good chunk of traffic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk here's also a significant Iranian-American (okay, "Persian") population in the DFW area; IKA-DFW might work. I think most of the Jews in Iran left for Israel year...

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by superjeff
Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: History of American's St. Louis Hub
Replies: 46
Views: 5179

Re: History of American's St. Louis Hub

Trans states or at least the same name is still flying erj’s for United out of DEN. Wonder if they were a subsidiary of TWA at one time or just a subcontractor? Trans States was the outgrowth of a company called Resort Air, which served various small towns in the Midwest (I flew them JLN-STL, conne...

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by superjeff
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: F9 Could Use A321XLR Order for Transatlantic
Replies: 116
Views: 11112

Re: F9 Could Use A321XLR Order for Transatlantic

[ Inhumane.[/quote] Very inhuman. But in a society where so many people (many without the money needed to do so i.e. us lovely millennials) want to travel to far off distances for cheap...this could be big. Think families willing to save a couple hundred dollars to sacrifice comfort. Idk...I love my...

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by superjeff
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar speeds up A380 retirement
Replies: 94
Views: 16931

Re: Qatar speeds up A380 retirement

Why? circle them through HKG or somewhere and get the engine maintained there. Thats exactly what QF does with 744s. Or somewhere in the United States where the engines are made. At one point QF had RR, GE and PW powered 767s onsite. Both Air NZ and SAA with small 744 fleets had both RR and GE 744s...

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by superjeff
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Media: AA refuses to supply IG with a spare part causing delays in SFO
Replies: 97
Views: 19874

Re: Media: AA refuses to supply IG with a spare part causing delays in SFO

Oh boy, I wish the forum was still in the old 'paid user' format....... I am pretty much in agreement with you. A couple of years ago, we were flying back to DFW on an AA 767-300 out of Maui. Had a mechanical and AA needed a part. Hawaiian still had their 767-300's and a major mechanical base in HN...

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by superjeff
Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pleasant Hawaiian Holidays and American Trans Air
Replies: 21
Views: 3391

Re: Pleasant Hawaiian Holidays and American Trans Air

ATA absolutely did sell seats directly to the public on their Hawaii routes. They were, however, as others have said here, primarily selling through Pleasant Hawaiian. Later on, they replaced the L1011's with 757-300's (which mostly ended up with Contnental after they failed)..

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by superjeff
Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Media: AA refuses to supply IG with a spare part causing delays in SFO
Replies: 97
Views: 19874

Re: Media: AA refuses to supply IG with a spare part causing delays in SFO

I was not personally affected but I think those who were affected have the right to know that AA had the possibility to make money by selling a spare part AND help people, while they chose to lose money and hinder people. Shareholders also have the right to know it, so they can evaluate AA's manage...

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by superjeff
Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?
Replies: 119
Views: 23178

Re: How did Airlines Fill up Large Widebodies in the Old days?

Fares were higher, fuel was cheaper, and most flights operated once a day. Airlines didn't have multiple non-stop transcons between the same two cities like they do now. If you wanted to fly a transcon, you took the one flight there was and that was (potentially) on a 747 because everybody had to t...

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by superjeff
Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Brussels Airlines future narrowbody fleet to be branded as Eurowings
Replies: 63
Views: 11526

Re: Brussels Airlines' integration into EW

I suspect the almagamation of Brussels Airlines into Eurowings is due to overall Lufthansa strategy. Lufthansa being one of the key members of the Star Alliance means that they could easily move Eurowings into the Alliance if they want to do so. It probably boils down to how they plan to fit SN into...

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by superjeff
Sat May 25, 2019 2:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Motley Fool 5.19.2019 - Southwest Inter-Island Service, "doing extraordinarily well."
Replies: 69
Views: 10854

Re: Motley Fool 5.19.2019 - Southwest Inter-Island Service, "doing extraordinarily well."

What percentage of Hawaii’s economy comes from tourism? Can't quote a percentage but it is pretty significant. Government is a lesser percentage than years ago, and Hawaii is of significantly less importance as a stopover/refueling location on international flights. Tourism is, I think, by far the ...

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by superjeff
Fri May 24, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Motley Fool 5.19.2019 - Southwest Inter-Island Service, "doing extraordinarily well."
Replies: 69
Views: 10854

Re: Motley Fool 5.19.2019 - Southwest Inter-Island Service, "doing extraordinarily well."

Still skeptical about the long term viability of WN in Hawaii interisland. Their capacity at HNL is extremely limited and HA will have something to say about any WN expansion. Stuff like opening up a line to a small market like ITO is plain idiotic. Frankly Hawaii is a saturated market. There's tal...

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by superjeff
Thu May 23, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines MD-80 Retirement Discussion Thread
Replies: 369
Views: 79981

Re: What's the AA MD-80 retirement schedule!?

i', booked on one DFW-OKC on June 10th, which I guess will be my last chance to fly on one. I'm going to miss these comfortable airplanes. Especially the 2-3 seating in coach.

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by superjeff
Thu May 23, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW Announces Terminal F Plans & C Renovations
Replies: 82
Views: 9632

Re: DFW Announces Terminal F Plans & C Renovations

When DFW was built, Terminal A was used by Texas International and {the original) Frontier Airlines, Terminal B by Braniff (which was then the biggest carrier at DFW), Terminal C by American and Eastern (but AA by far the bigger), and Terminal E by Continental (about 4 gates), and Delta. (the iindi...

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by superjeff
Tue May 21, 2019 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DFW Announces Terminal F Plans & C Renovations
Replies: 82
Views: 9632

Re: DFW Announces Terminal F Plans & C Renovations

These asbestos rumors in Terminal C have persisted on this site, but is there any documentation of this? The timing just doesn't make sense. If all of the original terminals had asbestos, that would make sense, but any renovations to 3E after the original opening to make individual gate areas would...

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by superjeff
Sun May 19, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: American Airlines 767-300 Business Class Zurich to Philadelphia (Pictures/Videos)
Replies: 6
Views: 8201

Re: American Airlines 767-300 Business Class Zurich to Philadelphia (Pictures/Videos)

I have found AA's international business class to be really good. Food is a hit or miss, however their seats are really good... besides this one. I honestly prefer AA's 788 Zodiac seats over this one, and thankfully the 763 is being replaced by them. However, I'm betting that the newer 788s that wi...

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by superjeff
Sun May 19, 2019 9:18 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: AA First Class: ORD-LGA (w/pics)
Replies: 3
Views: 4467

Re: AA First Class: ORD-LGA (w/pics)

Enjoyed your report. Thanks for posting.

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by superjeff
Sun May 19, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airport PAST: Dallas Love Field - Southwest 727 Braniff 747 Delta 747 plus
Replies: 61
Views: 8256

Re: Airport PAST: Dallas Love Field - Southwest 727 Braniff 747 Delta 747 plus

Few things. I rode on the Delta 747 ATL-DAL-SFO-ATL in 73. Non-revel with my mom for my 9th birthday present! Some of the SW 727 from AA or BN were not leased(or that is what the paperwork said) but was a settlement for a reservation settlement issue. Zero dollar lease if you will. I have a 6 foot ...

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