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by PatrickZ80
Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:10 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Canary Islands-next tourist hotspot for North America?
Replies: 4
Views: 566

Re: Canary Islands-next tourist hotspot for North America?

If I’m not mistaken, I believe Canada 3000 offered flights from Canada to the Canary Islands for a short time before they went under. I want to even say they had a flight from YHZ. I remember they had a YHZ-AGP flight but I do seem to recall seeing ads in the paper for Tenerife as well. Would be an...

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by PatrickZ80
Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why no US or Canada flights to San Andres Island?
Replies: 12
Views: 716

Re: Why no US or Canada flights to San Andres Island?

It seems like that ADZ airport is very busy. But practically all the flights are to/from Colombia. That forces tourists from North America to overshoot the island twice by almost two hours. The other option would be Copa with a transfer in Panama, that's less of a detour than Colombia. Although it ...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:18 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Trip to MCO- which departure airport better for airfare?
Replies: 12
Views: 726

Re: Trip to MCO- which departure airport better for airfare?

Also, any input on airfare on airlines offering connecting service would be appreciated. This all depends on the time of booking, fares constantly fluctuate however they tend to go up as the date of the flight comes closer. Why take a connecting flight if several airlines offer direct flights? Cert...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:21 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Do you check the current price of a flight after you booked it?
Replies: 20
Views: 933

Re: Do you check the current price of a flight after you booked it?

I check from time to time if booked on Easyjet. Those with FF status on Easyjet can claim a credit voucher if the price falls below the price they paid - even on the most restrictive of tickets. Frequent flyer status on EasyJet? Never heard about that, must be something new. The last time I checked...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:51 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Trip to MCO- which departure airport better for airfare?
Replies: 12
Views: 726

Re: Trip to MCO- which departure airport better for airfare?

This should be rather cheap, with several airlines flying this route. Both Frontier and Southwest fly OMA-MCO and Allegiant flies OMA-SFB. Also consider DSM as a departure airport, Frontier flies DSM-MCO and Allegiant flies DSM-SFB. Unfortunately these airlines haven't loaded their schedules for nex...

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by PatrickZ80
Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pieter Elbers to step down as CEO of KLM
Replies: 39
Views: 6157

Re: Pieter Elbers to step down as CEO of KLM

The French bought KLM. People shouldn't be surprised that they actually want to have something to say about it. No, they didn't. The two airlines merged, they agreed to both having a controlling position in the new formed parent company. What do you think drives market cap? It's expectation of earn...

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by PatrickZ80
Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pieter Elbers to step down as CEO of KLM
Replies: 39
Views: 6157

Re: Pieter Elbers to stop as CEO of KLM

I’m all for KLM and AF representing the Dutch and French, but it’s time to make it one ship. As long as that one ship is under Dutch management I'm all for that, however I'm afraid the French won't accept that. And the Dutch on their turn won't accept it to be under French management. Instead of ma...

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by PatrickZ80
Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pieter Elbers to step down as CEO of KLM
Replies: 39
Views: 6157

Re: Pieter Elbers to stop as CEO of KLM

Probably a shock to many KLM-staffers as he stood up for his people more than once and he was well liked among them. I'm curious who will be his successor and what that will do with the relationship between KLM and "Paris". The name of Pieter Bootsma is being rumored, no guarantees of cou...

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by PatrickZ80
Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pieter Elbers to step down as CEO of KLM
Replies: 39
Views: 6157

Pieter Elbers to step down as CEO of KLM

Source: https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/categorie/2/airlines/pieter-elbers-vertrekt-volgend-jaar-als-topman-van-klm (in Dutch) At May 1st 2023 Pieter Elbers will quit his job as CEO of KLM, he has been at the head of KLM for over 8 years and says it's time for a change. It's unknown who will ...

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by PatrickZ80
Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:33 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Which airlines has the best wide body aircraft interior design in economy class ?
Replies: 13
Views: 1149

Re: Which airlines has the best wide body aircraft interior design in economy class ?

All Boeing 787's should be configured like that. That's why I plan all my economy long haul travel on the Airbus A330 and A340. Which is no guarantee either as some airlines have their A330s configured in 3-3-3. For example AirAsia X, it's the reason they're able to offer lower fares than airlines ...

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by PatrickZ80
Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 11
Views: 384

Re: Wizzair (W6) at Kecskemet Air Base

Probably crew training. Touch&go's are usually done at remote airport to not waste prescious slots at primary airports.

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by PatrickZ80
Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:31 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Best places to visit in delhi
Replies: 6
Views: 515

Re: Best places to visit in delhi

you may be better off renting a car Not exactly a good advice in a place like Delhi either, specially for someone who has no experience driving there. Driving in Delhi is an absolute nightmare, nobody obeys any traffic rules! It's the city that has the most traffic deaths in the entire world. Not k...

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by PatrickZ80
Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airliner types under threat of extinction
Replies: 28
Views: 3183

Re: Airliner types under threat of extinction

Antonov 148 / Antonov 158. First flight was 2004, but there's not many of them around, never mind in operation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-148#Operators Yeah, it was supposed to become a BAE-146 successor but never came to fruition. I guess the name Antonov didn't rise much confidence ...

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by PatrickZ80
Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:38 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Which airlines has the best wide body aircraft interior design in economy class ?
Replies: 13
Views: 1149

Re: Which airlines has the best wide body aircraft interior design in economy class ?

Please explain to me where you see the word "has" in the OP's post: "Hello ! Let's talk about wide body aircraft economy class. I would like to know which cabins do you like the most in terms of design ? Here are some of my favorite wide body aircraft interiors." How about in th...

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by PatrickZ80
Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:31 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Which airlines has the best wide body aircraft interior design in economy class ?
Replies: 13
Views: 1149

Re: Which airlines has the best wide body aircraft interior design in economy class ?

eta unknown wrote:
the OP didn't specify a time frame and a subsequent poster mentioned Braniff.


He did specify a timeframe by using the word "has" instead of "had". Has is present time, meaning now.

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by PatrickZ80
Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:57 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: The feeling of misplacing a passport or travel document
Replies: 8
Views: 724

Re: The feeling of misplacing a passport or travel document

No, luckily I never misplaced it.

I have a hip bag in which I always keep my important papers such as my passport. I usually don't have a boarding card since I use my phone as a digital boarding card.

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by PatrickZ80
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Seasonal flights between US and Europe winter only
Replies: 36
Views: 5166

Re: Seasonal flights between US and Europe winter only

The Canary Islands are a predominant winter season destination in Europe for medium-low income tourists from the UK, Germany, Scandinavia and more recently France and Italy. Only in 2019 more than 13 million foreigners visited the islands. Overall they record mild temperatures (22ºC) all year aroun...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SmartLynx UK operations
Replies: 11
Views: 2184

Re: SmartLynx UK operations

AFAIK, as an EU based airline it is no longer possible to operate from the UK - needing an UK AOC to do so. That's not entirely true. EU based airlines are allowed to fly from the UK as long as their destinations are in the EU. They aren't allowed to fly to non-EU destinations from the UK, however ...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:05 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Least known airlines you've flown on
Replies: 69
Views: 2413

Re: Least known airlines you've flown on

Most people who are under 30 outside the USA and not a.netters have never heard of Pan Am. Would that count ? Likely it does, although the name Pan Am is still relatively well-known. I remember hearing a story once about a teenager hearing about an airline named Allegheny, which left him puzzled. A...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:53 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Which airlines has the best wide body aircraft interior design in economy class ?
Replies: 13
Views: 1149

Re: Which airlines has the best wide body aircraft interior design in economy class ?

Air India 747-200 cabins from the 80's. Honorable mention to the Trussardi designed Alitalia 747 cabin- not sure if all the fleet received the makeover or only a few aircraft. Good reason those airlines didn't make it. No doubt it was good but people don't look for good these days. They first look ...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Jan 08, 2022 5:20 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Least known airlines you've flown on
Replies: 69
Views: 2413

Re: Least known airlines you've flown on

Similar with me, the first airline I've ever flown was Air Holland. They're long gone now and to by far most people the name means nothing, they weren't even that big back in the day. All other airlines I've flown are still around and therefor much better known. Although it depends on where in the w...

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by PatrickZ80
Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:16 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A350 and only 1 pilot for a commercial flight
Replies: 13
Views: 1204

Re: A350 and only 1 pilot for a commercial flight

Thank you for your help if the pilot is struck by an inability to take off and falls on the controls when the aircraft is pitching up. the 2nd pilot can take control quickly to avoid the crash? That's true, although with an advanced aircraft such as an A350 take-off is usually done on autopilot. Ba...

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by PatrickZ80
Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:10 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Do you check a bag for leisure travel?
Replies: 27
Views: 1656

Re: Do you check a bag for leisure travel?

I almost always check a bag, I'm no longer willing to deal with the hassle of carry-on. All those people lining up at the gate 30 minutes before boarding? They're all preparing for the Great Luggage Compartment Battle. You can see the stress on their faces. I go straight to my seat, put my bag unde...

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by PatrickZ80
Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:13 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Have you landed on the alphabet? A delayed 2021 edition
Replies: 20
Views: 1120

Re: Have you landed on the alphabet? A delayed 2021 edition

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I haven't flown at all last year so no new airports to be added.
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That's easy, I can just point to my post from last year.

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I haven't flown at all last year so no new airports to be added.

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by PatrickZ80
Wed Jan 05, 2022 6:17 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: One a time landed or Took off airport you've flown to
Replies: 52
Views: 2060

Re: One a time landed or Took off airport you've flown to

One time I took a trip GRQ - GDN - STN - LIS - AMS. Both GRQ and AMS are well within driving distance from my home, however while I've departed from and arrived at AMS quite a number of times I only once departed from GRQ and never landed there. This wasn't a diversion by the way, it was planned tha...

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by PatrickZ80
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:22 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What US operators flew to the Canaries?
Replies: 5
Views: 969

Re: What US operators flew to the Canaries?

If I remember correctly, United flew to Tenerife in the past from Newark. Might have been charters though, not sure about that.

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by PatrickZ80
Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:27 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Do you check a bag for leisure travel?
Replies: 27
Views: 1656

Re: Do you check a bag for leisure travel?

Because of status, we don't pay DL's checked bag fees, so we always check our bags. Would you still check them if you didn't have status and therefor they wouldn't be free? Personally the first thing I look at when deciding to check a bag or not is if I need to. If I take so little stuff with me th...

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by PatrickZ80
Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:30 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A350 and only 1 pilot for a commercial flight
Replies: 13
Views: 1204

Re: A350 and only 1 pilot for a commercial flight

Fly a US airline. Always 2 people in the cockpit on any flight at all times. I thought the EU required (or at least the airlines changed their policies) 2 in the cockpit after Andreas Lubitz? No need to fly a US airline for that, the EU has the same regulations. Always at least 2 people in the cock...

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by PatrickZ80
Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: wich airlines did BAC/aerospatiale thought would order concorde to get to the 250 orders by 1980 goal?
Replies: 8
Views: 969

Re: wich airlines did BAC/aerospatiale thought would order concorde to get to the 250 orders by 1980 goal?

As for who they “hoped” would have bought it… my guess from a business standpoint…any airline willing to purchase some. Not true, airlines had to have a certain amount of class to be allowed to fly the Concorde. They wouldn't deliver to just anyone. I remember hearing one day Virgin Atlantic tried ...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:07 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: do you see flight reviews as subjective or objective?
Replies: 9
Views: 825

Re: do you see flight reviews as subjective or objective?

I definitely consider them to be subjective, many times I read them and I just don't agree with them. Often they have unrealistic expectations which logically didn't come true, I would have been surprised if they did. Nonetheless, it might make the final judgement very different. Reviews can give yo...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:11 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Advice for Expiring AA Travel Voucher
Replies: 4
Views: 557

Re: Advice for Expiring AA Travel Voucher

Would it be possible to have the credit cashed out to you? This is often the case once the credit is a certain time old and you haven't made use of it.

I would check if this is possible, after all money doesn't have an expiry date.

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by PatrickZ80
Fri Dec 31, 2021 3:50 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What Airline Do You Associate With A Particular Type?
Replies: 34
Views: 1899

Re: What Airline Do You Associate With A Particular Type?

A300: Air France A310: Lufthansa A319: EasyJet A320: Lufthansa A321: Wizzair A330: Air France A340: Lufthansa A380: British Airways A350: Singapore Airlines ATR-42: DAT ATR-72: Air France Regional 717: Volotea 737: Ryanair 747: KLM 757: Icelandair 767: Martinair 777: KLM 787: Norwegian Dash 8-Q400: ...

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by PatrickZ80
Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:29 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Do you check a bag for leisure travel?
Replies: 27
Views: 1656

Re: Do you check a bag for leisure travel?

The last time I checked any luggage must have been something like 15 years ago, that was for a 2-weeks trip. Usually my trips are way shorter than that so there's no need to check any luggage, hand luggage only is sufficient. It's a great way of saving on your travel expenses and it saves time at th...

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by PatrickZ80
Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021
Replies: 478
Views: 71086

Re: Wizz Air News and Discussion Thread - 2021

marcogr12 wrote:
I dont understand..The DXB-CLJ,BRI,KRK routes are available until end of March..So they introduce them now for just 3 months?


Further schedules probably haven't been loaded yet. Or maybe it's a winter seasonal route, after all demand to the UAE is lower in the summer when it's way too hot there.

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by PatrickZ80
Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: easyJet links Switzerland to Tunisia
Replies: 5
Views: 1421

Re: easyJet links Switzerland to Tunisia

rutankrd wrote:
Would there be some leakage of the price sensitive to Lyon ?


I don't think so, it's quite a distance. Keep in mind this is mountainous terrain, you can't go in a straight line. Besides, Transavia France already flies Lyon - Djerba and Lyon - Tunis as do Novelair and Tunisair.

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by PatrickZ80
Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:43 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What are your least favorite current, standard airline liveries?
Replies: 30
Views: 2429

Re: What are your least favorite current, standard airline liveries?

Spirit — clearly the result of choosing the cheapest color offered in bulk. Though, to be fair, they’re just the worst and least imaginative of the ULCC’s worldwide. I have a hard time thinking of one I do like. The cheapest color would actually have been white, but I see what you mean. I personall...

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by PatrickZ80
Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:42 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What are your least favorite current, standard airline liveries?
Replies: 30
Views: 2429

Re: What are your least favorite current, standard airline liveries?

Finnair gets my vote for worst livery. Care to share why? In my opinion their livery is a bit simple perhaps but other than that it's not bad. It was inspired by the Finnish flag, which is a blue cross on a white background. They turned the cross into an F in a nice modern way. Of course it's Eurow...

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by PatrickZ80
Tue Dec 21, 2021 6:11 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What are your favorite retired/retro liveries?
Replies: 22
Views: 1837

Re: What are your favorite retired/retro liveries?

Usually I'm not that into old livies, in most cases I find the new ones to be better. There are exceptions of course, some really bad liveries have been introduced lately. I decided not to include those airlines because their old liveries are still (partially) in use. Besides, the fact that their ne...

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by PatrickZ80
Sun Dec 19, 2021 12:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair new livery
Replies: 107
Views: 15478

Re: Icelandair new livery

By the way, here's an example of a new livery done right: 5402651,6173103 Left is the old livery, right is the new one. You can basically see the old livery in the new one, that's good. It's new, it's updated, it's refreshing, yet at the same time it's got everything the old livery had. If you knew ...

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by PatrickZ80
Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair new livery
Replies: 107
Views: 15478

Re: Icelandair new livery

I'm sure it'll grow on us. Not too sure about that. Lufthansa's new livery has been around for a while now and it hasn't grown on me, I still hate it. I don't think this one will grow on me either. Why would they do this? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. It was starting to get outdated, however the...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:29 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: US LCC Southwest versus JetBlue, Hawaii versus Europe
Replies: 16
Views: 1081

Re: US LCC Southwest versus JetBlue, Hawaii versus Europe

Just because the experience doesn't suck, and they don't "unbundle" everything, that doesn't mean they are not a Low-COST Carrier. Southwest has offered a similar level of service since their founding. Then please tell me what their cost-saving is? And I mean cost-saving for them, not for...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair new livery
Replies: 107
Views: 15478

Re: Icelandair new livery

It is of course a new livery and therefore guaranteed to meet with instant A.netter disapproval. :lol: Not necessarily, sometimes an airline manages to hit the sweet spot with a new livery. Not this one though, it looks too cheap. Not too bad on the 737. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51755761...

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by PatrickZ80
Sat Dec 18, 2021 6:01 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: US LCC Southwest versus JetBlue, Hawaii versus Europe
Replies: 16
Views: 1081

Re: US LCC Southwest versus JetBlue, Hawaii versus Europe

Southwest has a lower cost per seat mile than United, Delta, American, Hawaiian or JetBlue. Only Alaska, Allegiant, Spirit and Frontier rank lower. That is still a Low Cost Carrier. If it is, then just barely. However looking at what they offer, that doesn't match the description of a low-cost carr...

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by PatrickZ80
Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:56 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: US LCC Southwest versus JetBlue, Hawaii versus Europe
Replies: 16
Views: 1081

Re: US LCC Southwest versus JetBlue, Hawaii versus Europe

Neither Southwest nor JetBlue are LCCs in my opinion, they're both full-service airlines. When I think of LCCs I think of Spirit, Frontier and Allegiant in the US or Ryanair, EasyJet and Wizzair in Europe. You definitely don't need a business class to enter the London market. Of course you do if you...

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by PatrickZ80
Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:43 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Can Germany support a second legacy carrier?
Replies: 24
Views: 2129

Re: Can Germany support a second legacy carrier?

In short, aside from the highway connections you mention (which are also less than stellar), there are basically no railway connections to DUS from inside the Netherlands, and those that exist will always be slower than just taking the train to AMS. There are plans for a third intercity connection ...

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by PatrickZ80
Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:16 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What are your least favorite current, standard airline liveries?
Replies: 30
Views: 2429

Re: What are your least favorite current, standard airline liveries?

Aer Lingus. The new livery isn't particularly horrible, but their old livery was so classic and beautiful that the change really sticks out as being quite terrible. I partially agree with that. Indeed their new livery isn't the best but their old livery was outdated and needed an update. They could...

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by PatrickZ80
Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:14 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Underrated Airline Liveries
Replies: 18
Views: 1302

Re: Underrated Airline Liveries

I'll probably get some flak for this but I think Air China's is underrated. The old communist-era look is kinda timeless and their bird on the tail is the subtle touch of red that brings it all together. I also like NKs bumble bee look only because it's different. I don't think it's timeless, just ...

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by PatrickZ80
Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:43 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Can Germany support a second legacy carrier?
Replies: 24
Views: 2129

Re: Can Germany support a second legacy carrier?

As an aviation fanatic, I would never say there are “too many airlines”, that’s just heresy. But in this case we have to look at the Lufthansa Group as a whole as one airline, in the end there’s one pool of money and one leadership group. And Lufthansa as a group has full blown hubs in FRA, MUC, ZR...

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by PatrickZ80
Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:26 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Can Germany support a second legacy carrier?
Replies: 24
Views: 2129

Re: Can Germany support a second legacy carrier?

Europe already has too many airlines. I don't agree with that. Certainly, if you look at the sheer number of airlines Europe has a lot of airlines. But you got to keep in mind that these airlines are a lot smaller than their American counterparts, which mostly got a large number of hubs. European a...

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by PatrickZ80
Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:42 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Can Germany support a second legacy carrier?
Replies: 24
Views: 2129

Re: Can Germany support a second legacy carrier?

For reference, Eindhoven is straight in the middle of the Amsterdam - Brussels - Dusseldorf triangle. That leads to only a small part of the southeast part of the Netherlands being closer to Dusseldorf than to Amsterdam or even Brussels and even then not by far. Someone from let's say Nijmegen migh...

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