No new runways. Current runway configuration along with terminal expansions will allow SFO to grow to around 80 million pax. OAK and SJC have multi-billion dollar expansion studies of their own. When it gets to that point we’ll see SFO take on a role similar to that of JFK...Jump to post
Numbers are there to support both SFO-LIM and SFO-GRU. Talks are going on as we speak to bring service from both of these markets. Bay Area is not LA from a population standpoint but for sure but GDP per capita, income per capita, Fortune 500 presence, propensity for foreign travel... by all these ...Jump to post
Numbers are there to support both SFO-LIM and SFO-GRU. Talks are going on as we speak to bring service from both of these markets. Bay Area is not LA from a population standpoint but for sure but GDP per capita, income per capita, Fortune 500 presence, propensity for foreign travel... by all these m...Jump to post
"was first curious as to what aircraft would be used on SFO-ZRH. I expected a 763 but the 787 is a great surprise! I wonder if any of the shorter transatlantic routes with upgauge to a 767 after they start. Hopefully!" No more 767's at SFO. Other then an occasional a/c sub or diversion th...Jump to post
Whats going on with SJC? We have LH suspend for winter, now HU cutting flights, and we had in another thread discussion that airlines like BA had weak loads also at SJC. LH was never a good idea with the LH/UA powerhouse up the road. I think they'd have had better success with a lower density A330 ...Jump to post
Also, even AMS does way better than LAX for GA, even if there are many one stop options on airlines like MH, SQ, etc.[/quote]
Might have something to do with the fact that Indonesia is a former Dutch colony and massive cultural and business ties exist...
I saw OAK does BA & DY service to LGW and IB does OAK-BCN... where is all of this need coming from, or has the bay area been severely under-served? Prepare to be surprised- OAK does not do just LGW and BCN, they now have DY non-stops to CPH, OSL, ARN with CDG and FCO starting soon! And oh, for ...Jump to post
LH is bringing the A380 on MUC-LAX? I may have missed that memo. http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/273457/lufthansa-s18-long-haul-changes-as-of-21jun17/?highlight=lufthansa LH is switching certain A380 routes to the A346; flights from FRA to these cities are being downgauged to the A...Jump to post
Slightly off topic - partly because this thread is so amusing to those of us in the Bay Area... Best use of a name that has no business using that name: Fresno/Yosemite - a whopping 2.5 hour drive to Yosemite Valley. I think the more appropriate name would be Fresno - Gateway to Yosemite or somethi...Jump to post
Slightly off topic - partly because this thread is so amusing to those of us in the Bay Area... Best use of a name that has no business using that name: Fresno/Yosemite - a whopping 2.5 hour drive to Yosemite Valley. I think the more appropriate name would be Fresno - Gateway to Yosemite or somethin...Jump to post
Anyone flown BA from LHR to SFO/OAK/SJC? Pretty cool that BA flies to all 3. BA to OAK is from LGW, not LHR. The establishment of this service was a direct response to DY LGW-OAK. SFO is very constrained gate-wise at the moment, particularly Int'l G. You can see SFO's long-term plan to grow to 121 ...Jump to post
SFO is year round daily Not for much longer - it will be reduced to 3x weekly W17. The remaining 4x BA287/286 will be 777-236ER and one 747-436. London Heathrow – San Francisco Operational aircraft changes BA285/284 747-400 replaces 777-200ER BA287/286 A380 service reduces from 7 to 3 weekly (Day 4...Jump to post
Indeed UA had a hard time to gain ground in secondary China market. From the most recent DOT published figure, in the relatively hot month of January, HGH - SFO only had a combined load factor of 69%, one of the worst in China - US market, only better than CA's PVG - SJC. In contrast, 3U's HGH - LA...Jump to post
HA OGG-OAK - I thought this was doing pretty well. Guess not. That seems pretty unlikely? Perhaps a temporary thing while they figure out the 767 retirements and A321 deliveries. If they're having trouble filling an A330 on this route, it seems like you'd put A321 on it before putting it daily on O...Jump to post
Just returned from FUK via PVG - 2 r/t tickets cost a whopping $1500 on MU... JL and NH SFO-FUK via TYO were around $2700 EACH r/t. Amazing... MU was an odd experience for an American. We were virtually alone. It was totally fine as I'm always up for an adventure. Brand new 77W quite comfortable. On...Jump to post
Forgive me, but what do LHR/Europe, HKG and SIN have to do with JFK-TPE? If JFK-TPE is overwhelmingly loaded with lower yielding VFR traffic, then I can see where the route could be unprofitable. Full seats at bargain prices doesn't equate to a less full load but with full fare tickets, especially ...Jump to post
I think SJC needs to digest what it has before anything new is added. I'm guessing NH is doing fine with the premium-heavy 788 and I'm sure BA is holding its own as well, especially up front. LH - who knows... There has been zero adjustment to the SFO schedule. UA still operating double-daily 744 an...Jump to post
I always love reading all the various opinions and observations from those who live outside our corner of the world... everybody seems to have an opinion and many dismiss us as lefty nimby nutjobs... I'll remind everyone that our formula works quite well. We are absolutely business minded. By nearly...Jump to post
CantbeGrounded wrote:It's not just environmentalists, NIMBYS, dollars, etc that make any Bay fill out of the question.
The City itself opposes:
http://www.sfbos.org/ftp/uploadedfiles/ ... 069-08.pdf
Here is what's on the horizon after the T-1 project wraps up: http://www.flysfo.com/about-sfo/sfo-tomorrow#sthash.UNb68lC6.dpbs Lots to look at here... there is no alteration to the runways in this plan and passenger count maxes out at 71M. Technology will certainly play a role as will OAK and SJC. ...Jump to post
Look at the size of NYC-LHR when you combine JFK+EWR - amazing... also this is all traffic correct? Not just O&D? It must be because there's no way ATL-CDG is that big...Jump to post
I can't wait to see how some of the SFO fanboys spin this. I called it back in the winter when they announced they were dropping to 3x weekly that they would end up pulling it all together. I'll say it again - SFO is WAY over served to the ME & Sub-Continent. SFO will also end up like LAS for Q...Jump to post
When visiting the UA terminal at HNL you're stepping back in time to circa 1967...it appears virtually unchanged. The design motif on the walls reminiscent of "The Dating Game" (yes I'm old), the "snack bar" and "Cocktails" signs, all that brown. And how about those cr...Jump to post
SFO is way over served with EK, EY + AI. We've already seen EY scale back to less than daily, now EK rumored to be downgauging to a 777. QR would be smart to not launch SFO as they won't fill their plane. SFO can't even manage what it has now. It's not way over-served at all unless you have informa...Jump to post
jayunited wrote:The title of this thread needs to be changed to UA announces the forth 77W route.
SFO-HKG, SFO-NRT, SFO-TPE, and EWR-TLV
Both SFO-HKG and one of the 2x daily EWR-TLV flights are already utilizing 77W's
SFO-TPE effective August 1. Taipei joins Hong Kong and Narita. Sad to see 744 ops winding down but it's time... http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/272924/united-adds-boeing-777-300er-taipei-service-from-aug-2017/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=airlineroute&utm_campaign=airlinerout...Jump to post
airzona11 wrote:Millions of people fly everyday, there are bound to be slip ups. I am kind of shocked someone with a gluten free or other food preference doesn't travel with some suitable food just in case.
SFO-DUB seems to be doing nicely. Would've thought of all EI's routes that that one would be the one to crash.
Quite the contrary. Massive feed from Silicon Valley. It's been back for three years now and the CEO said It was their most successful route launch in EI history.
I recently prepared some stats provided by the Swiss Federal Bureau of Statistics, which provide O&D PDEW from ZRH in 2016. Following a list of the top 15 long haul destinations O&D: Destination / O&D 2016 [list]Suvarnabhumi Bangkok International 378 New York J F Kennedy 346 Tel Aviv Ben...Jump to post
A bit off topic but ran into this article which talks about the design work taking place for SFO T1. There are a couple of new renderings as well.
http://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/plac ... 2d40616990
There will also be a public observation deck and rooftop bar at the Grand Hyatt. Grand Hyatt will sit adjacent to Boarding Area A and is breaking ground soon and opening in 2019.Jump to post
In 2015, annualized domestic O&D Traffic at LAX was 39.4 million passengers ( http://aviationplanning.com/aviation-dataflash/ ). Total domestic traffic at LAX was 54.2 million, so right there you have 14.8 million connecting passengers. Then international traffic was 20.7 million, and assuming ...Jump to post
but around 25M people still connect through it... What's the source of that number? A few years back someone posted the top 20 or 25 O&D markets in the USA. Metro areas with multiple airports were all added together and the list combined both domestic and international O&D. The annual data ...Jump to post
I know it wouldn't be cheap, but it would seem this would be a huge help to the passengers making connections, But how many people really connect at LAX? Per LAWA press release only last week, they call themselves the worlds busiest O&D airport. I doubt airport tenant airlines would approve pay...Jump to post
As a hotelier with experience in gateway cities across the USA, I can tell you that airline crews from every corner of the globe misbehave; USA and U.K. are certainly no exception. As "partners" in the travel industry airlines and hotels are absolutely worlds apart. While hotels typically ...Jump to post
Sounds pretty par for the course for Delta...Jump to post
Looks like SFO might need some more gates; here is the tentative expansion plan: http://media.flysfo.com.s3.amazonaws.com/default/about/Terminal_Development_Projects.pdf This is their current incremental upgrade plans for 10-15 narrowbody compatible gates. After that it is remote stands and a hard ...Jump to post
How are LAX, SJC, SAN & PDX doing? SJC hit 10.8 million passengers last year, a 10.2% increase over 2015. This is the largest percent increase in all the Top 50 US airports. This is the largest total pax at SJC since 2002, and that was when AA still had a hub at SJC. What was the high-water mar...Jump to post
North of 53MIL for 2016 as expected. 10% growth in International traffic should see SFO leapfrog Atlanta, O'Hare and Newark and move to the #4 spot for international gateway traffic. Not sure about Int'l growth numbers at OAK and SJC but their combined Int'l traffic probably finished at around 1.3MI...Jump to post
I can see DTW before SFO DTW and SFO would both have a fair share of VFR traffic, but I would say SFO would definitely have more business traffic plus SFO is a much attractive destination for tourists from Poland and on top of that it would have some traffic from connections onto UA. The recently a...Jump to post
SFO, like most airports, have an incentive program. SFO waves landing fees for two years and discounts Office space. EY will be back to daily in the Fall. If this route was a total failure they would have pulled the route. Not nearly as rich as what DFW needs to do to attract service... I'm not sur...Jump to post
Exactly... Thank you for digging this up... this is exactly what DFW has to do to get more Int'l service. The big O&D airports rarely need to do this. Well maybe if SFO did it they wouldn't be seeing EY drop service to 3x weekly. SFO, like most airports, have an incentive program. SFO waves lan...Jump to post