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by 113312
Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:37 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Anti-Ice Systems
Replies: 3
Views: 342

Re: Anti-Ice Systems

With regard to turbojet/turbofan airliners, experience has found that supercooled water droplets exist and can go from a liquid or vaporous to solid state upon striking a surface of the engine or airframe. In addition, the temperature of air drops as pressure drops and that is the case for moist air...

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by 113312
Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:49 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Fedex callsigns into Indy: all 16XX
Replies: 3
Views: 2171

Re: Fedex callsigns into Indy: all 16XX

You just noticed this? They have been doing this for decades.

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by 113312
Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:21 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Aircraft starting to climb after a long time
Replies: 5
Views: 2466

Re: Aircraft starting to climb after a long time

You did not specify the airport you had departed from. I've operated from Naha and the departure required climb only to 1000' until cleared by ATC. This is normal at that airport. There are other airports that have departures level at other levels (below 3000) for a segment often involving a turn. O...

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by 113312
Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:09 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Question about Saudia flight 163
Replies: 12
Views: 3503

Re: Question about Saudia flight 163

There were many problems with crew communication and crew management that resulted in this accident becoming a teaching example. One of the many things that the F/E did incorrect was to mismanage the pressurization such that the airplane remained pressurized after landing. This made it impossible to...

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by 113312
Mon May 09, 2022 9:28 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: When were towbar less tugs first introduced?
Replies: 11
Views: 3663

Re: When were towbar less tugs first introduced?

I first saw them in FRA around 1989

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by 113312
Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:06 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your shortest mainline flight and longest regional flight
Replies: 108
Views: 14784

Re: Your shortest mainline flight and longest regional flight

I recall flying cross country on Republic in a DC-9. The last leg was ONT-BUR. Pretty short. By contrast, I've also had several rides on a CRJ under America West from MEM to PHX. With winter headwinds it turned out to be about 4 hours block.

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by 113312
Mon Mar 14, 2022 1:10 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Too much fuel?
Replies: 8
Views: 3226

Re: Too much fuel?

Even though it was a short flight, they might have planned to "tanker" fuel for the next leg rather than refuel at that stop. But, as they did not burn as much fuel as they had planned, they were over maximum landing weight or maximum landing weight for the runway they were intending to la...

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by 113312
Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:22 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How do pilots keep track of so many waypoints for long haul flights?
Replies: 13
Views: 3321

Re: How do pilots keep track of so many waypoints for long haul flights?

In the old days, equipment only had capacity for nine waypoints at a time. And, they had to be manually entereed: Lat/long. We would take the printed flight plan and number the waypoints 1-9, 1-9, and so on. As each waypoint was passed, it was crossed out and the time, fuel, etc was logged. When dow...

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by 113312
Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:48 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Flap lowering sequence on this time lapse video of 747-400?
Replies: 4
Views: 1835

Re: Flap lowering sequence on this time lapse video of 747-400?

The classic also used 25 for landing.

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by 113312
Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:38 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Pneumatic vs Hydraulic
Replies: 35
Views: 4305

Re: Pneumatic vs Hydraulic

arcticcruiser wrote:
The Fokker F-27 pneumatics were an endless source of problems in cold weather operations on the type.


Yes indeed. Especially if the mechanical air compressors were worn out. I spent a January trying to operate a Fairchild out of Denver.

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by 113312
Fri Feb 18, 2022 9:02 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Pneumatic vs Hydraulic
Replies: 35
Views: 4305

Re: Pneumatic vs Hydraulic

Pneumatics are not used for any flight control system in the F-27 (Fokker, Fairchild, Fairchild-Hiller). Landing gear extension/retraction, brakes and nosewheel steering on some. Flaps are electric. All axis flight controls are conventional cables and pushrods.

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by 113312
Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:09 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Rule-of-thumb for when to extend flaps?
Replies: 10
Views: 2565

Re: Rule-of-thumb for when to extend flaps?

You showed the limit speeds for the flaps. However, for each configuration, there is a minimum speed. Normally, you slow to near the minimum speed for the configuration and then extend high lift devices (flaps, leading edge slats or flaps) to allow slower flight. The minimum speed vs configuration i...

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by 113312
Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:48 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Which airliners have ram air turbines. Which power hydraulics and which provide electricity?
Replies: 46
Views: 5843

Re: Which airliners have ram air turbines. Which power hydraulics and which provide electricity?

Speaking of the 747 classic, it had four hydraulic systems pressurized by four engine driven Hydraulic pumps that were backed up by four more pneumatically driven pumps. Each engine had a large capacity generator plus the APU had two generators. The APU could be started in flight although sometimes ...

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by 113312
Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:22 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: UAL975 Northernly Route 23 Jan
Replies: 3
Views: 1953

Re: UAL975 Northernly Route 23 Jan

Not unusual for this time of year. I've been on that routing many times in many types of aircraft. Generally, that route is used to avoid high headwinds in a strong jetstream core. I would suggesting looking at the upper air wind charts for the same time frame. Also, compare to other aircraft crossi...

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by 113312
Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:02 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: On the DC-10, what is the function of the "gear horn off" button other than the obvious.
Replies: 16
Views: 3141

Re: On the DC-10, what is the function of the "gear horn off" button other than the obvious.

Unlike the old 707 or 727, the gear horn will not sound when the flaps are up and the thrust levers are retarded to idle. But in the regime where you would normally need the gear extended, and they are not with the thrust levers retarded you would get a horn that you would want to cancel. Of course,...

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by 113312
Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:46 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What is the range of landing speeds for the MD-11?
Replies: 7
Views: 2069

Re: What is the range of landing speeds for the MD-11?

I operated some 747-200F with increased zero fuel weight that could land at 640k#. Approach was 164 without any wind adjustments. For the MD-11 I cannot give you a minimum speed since I cannot recall every flying them particularly light. However, I did operate DC-10s that were so light the approach ...

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by 113312
Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:14 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What is the range of landing speeds for the MD-11?
Replies: 7
Views: 2069

Re: What is the range of landing speeds for the MD-11?

Of course, in all aircraft it has to do with weight and the stall speed at that weight. Just a ballpark, the MD-11 at a high landing weight will have an approach speed of around 166 kts. The B747-200F could also be close to the same.

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by 113312
Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:16 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: High power settings on the 727 during approach and landing due to drag for dirty condition or for quick spool up.
Replies: 18
Views: 2924

Re: High power settings on the 727 during approach and landing due to drag for dirty condition or for quick spool up.

In any aircraft, the amount of thrust to maintain altitude, speed, or descent rate is related to the amount of drag present. You cannot just spool up an engine for the sake of spooling it up. Thrust output is related to engine RPM and fuel flow. If power is too low, descent rate will increase at a g...

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by 113312
Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:11 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Avionics Bay Access and Pressurization
Replies: 63
Views: 8758

Re: Avionics Bay Access and Pressurization

While this question, I'm sure, is a quest for information and knowledge, to answer it in a public forum could constitute a security risk for commercial operations. I would suggest to the site administrator that the replies be considered and filtered for potential sensitive information. I would not w...

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by 113312
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:04 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Use of speedbrakes in Boeing 737 during RTO
Replies: 33
Views: 4410

Re: Use of speedbrakes in Boeing 737 during RTO

The actions depend upon the model of 737 you are operating. Newer ones have autobrakes and autospoilers. Both will activate when the trust levers are retarded in a rejected takeoff. However, it is the pilots responsibility to follow up that the spoilers did deploy and that the aircraft is decelerati...

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by 113312
Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:55 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What are these sort of vertical lines above the leading edge of this 747.
Replies: 3
Views: 1968

Re: What are these sort of vertical lines above the leading edge of this 747.

Yes they are panels and not metal. This is the area that all of the high pressure pneumatic lines run through. That high pressure and high temperature air needs to escape if there is a failure in the pipes so as not to cause structural damage to the wing. Should a duct fail, one or more of these pan...

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by 113312
Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:04 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Are holding patterns used very much anymore and at which airfields?
Replies: 27
Views: 3677

Re: Are holding patterns used very much anymore and at which airfields?

I’d love to see pilots raised on “glass” enter and fly an intersection hold with dual VORs. You are so correct. When I learned to fly, I had to do holding at intersections using a single VOR radio. Also had to use ADF. While we are at it, we had to be able to fly an arc based upon time between segm...

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by 113312
Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:25 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Are holding patterns used very much anymore and at which airfields?
Replies: 27
Views: 3677

Re: Are holding patterns used very much anymore and at which airfields?

Yes, holding patterns are still used. However, some things have changed. You rarely will see a holding pattern flown as part of an instrument approach. A holding pattern might be part of the published procedure but would only be used when radar services are not available or in the rare case of commu...

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by 113312
Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Fuel Policy and Route to Destination Alternate
Replies: 15
Views: 2116

Re: Fuel Policy and Route to Destination Alternate

I think you're getting too far into the weeds. Remember, alternate fuel is a planning exercise. You cannot make assumptions based upon a pilot request for vectors or different routing during the flight. It also should be considered that failure of communications will result in flying a full approach...

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by 113312
Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:00 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: DIY project !!! ... an ancient Cessna 16-17 years AOG
Replies: 22
Views: 4758

Re: DIY project !!! ... an ancient Cessna 16-17 years AOG

I've seen plenty of those poor things are local airports. How much money do you want to spend? A set of engines and props will start around 100k. How about log books? Don't have any? run away. Even if they gave this thing for $1, I don't think you can make it worth fair market value without putting ...

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by 113312
Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:35 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: L1011 - High Angle of Attack on approach and landing
Replies: 15
Views: 3861

Re: L1011 - High Angle of Attack on approach and landing

The short answer to the original question is aerodynamics, airfoil shape and type, leading and trailing edge lift devices. You get a rough idea of the angle of attack when you consider the attitude combined with the flight path. On a normal ILS, the flight path is -3 degrees.

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by 113312
Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:34 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 757/767 Flap Position Indicator
Replies: 3
Views: 1477

Re: 757/767 Flap Position Indicator

Do you mean the white arcs outside of the degree markings? Yes, that is easy. The indicator actually has two needles, one for the left and one for the right flap. As on all Boeings, the white arcs give the allowable difference between the left and right flap. If there is an asymmetry where the indic...

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by 113312
Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:17 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Is this sound from the APU compressor or the main powerplant compressor?
Replies: 10
Views: 1792

Re: Is this sound from the APU compressor or the main powerplant compressor?

I don't disagree with Aaron 747 but the sound in that video is also a result of the audio limitations of the camera used. It is not linear frequency response and enhances certain frequencies. The sound cannot be from an APU in a 727 because it is shutdown after engine start. It may not be operated i...

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by 113312
Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:42 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Assembling a fleet of used aircraft
Replies: 7
Views: 2015

Re: Assembling a fleet of used aircraft

A lot of valid answers here. I have flown for small outfits where every aircraft was different. Other operators started out with a standard fleet but then added more planes in different configurations. This was not just for small operations, but even large well known ones. For example, a particular ...

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by 113312
Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:32 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: When pilots speak of a specific type of aircraft as "unforgiving" does that indicate a design flaw?
Replies: 15
Views: 2999

Re: When pilots speak of a specific type of aircraft as "unforgiving" does that indicate a design flaw?

The MD-11 could turn a good landing into something else in a heartbeat. Too many factors to discuss in a forum. Other than KLM and World, they didn't stay with passenger operations very long.

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by 113312
Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:29 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: When pilots speak of a specific type of aircraft as "unforgiving" does that indicate a design flaw?
Replies: 15
Views: 2999

Re: When pilots speak of a specific type of aircraft as "unforgiving" does that indicate a design flaw?

It's all too real. However, this version of the clip has had frames removed so I can see why you might think it's not real. This was an airport surveillance camera which also is not the best resolution. Colleagues of mine perished in that and very close associates participated in the field investiga...

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by 113312
Thu Nov 04, 2021 11:27 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What causes the pause on some aircraft between the time the nose is lifted off and the mains break free?
Replies: 11
Views: 1900

Re: What causes the pause on some aircraft between the time the nose is lifted off and the mains break free?

In the Boeing 727, for example, the angle of the wing when on all three legs of the landing gear, is a negative angle of attack. No matter how fast you go, it will never lift off unless the nose is raised. Normal pitch rotation rate is 3 degrees per second to a target initial pitch of 15 degrees. It...

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by 113312
Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:28 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Did the Pilots forget to retract the landing gears here ?
Replies: 28
Views: 3465

Re: Did the Pilots forget to retract the landing gears here ?

It is also a possibility that there was a malfunction. Although the landing gear all look normal, there could be a logic switch that indicates to the system that one or more gear either are in an "on the ground" condition or that they are not properly tilted for retraction. It is quite unl...

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by 113312
Sat Oct 30, 2021 10:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FedEx Retires Last DC-10-10 Freighter
Replies: 49
Views: 13487

Re: FedEx Retires Last DC-10-10 Freighter

I recall a TV program that involved an interview of American flight 96, who landed his crippled DC-10 at DTW. His insight into the design of the DC-10 was fascinating: he found it to be as close to a fighter jet as a passenger plane could have been, being very much a product of the McDonnell Aircra...

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by 113312
Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Duration of 747 Hydraulic Pressure Reduction?
Replies: 7
Views: 1065

Re: Duration of 747 Hydraulic Pressure Reduction?

The answer to this is it depends upon the specific aircraft model and which surfaces.

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by 113312
Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:29 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Is it dangerous when aircraft carry fuel in a center tank beneath the passenger cabin?
Replies: 43
Views: 4679

Re: Is it dangerous when aircraft carry fuel in a center tank beneath the passenger cabin?

Most aircraft have centerwing tanks. They may be main tanks or auxiliary tanks. Your concern about the location of that fuel and the remote possibility of a belly landing are overblown. The structure of the wing spar carrythrough is about the strongest part of the aircraft. A full gear up landing in...

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by 113312
Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:07 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Questions to get a Type-Rating with Initial.
Replies: 2
Views: 673

Re: Questions to get a Type-Rating with Initial.

What does paragraph (f) say?

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by 113312
Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:45 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What was the most powerful PW JT8D engine ever used on a Boeing 737-100?
Replies: 4
Views: 1205

Re: What was the most powerful PW JT8D engine ever used on a Boeing 737-100?

Only 30 were built and I am pretty certain that all had the JT-8d-7 14,000 # thrust powerplants. As to could you install more powerfull variants? Perhaps but what would be the point. The fuel capacity, certified weights and such would be too limiting to take advantage of more thrust. I will look dee...

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by 113312
Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:34 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Video showing Convair 880 flap and speed brake operation
Replies: 6
Views: 1554

Re: Video showing Convair 880 flap and speed brake operation

Not only does the landing aircraft turn into a 707, but these guys fly with their hats on through the whole trip. You only saw that in promo films and stills. There are a couple of quick cuts of the 880 on short approach to LAX.

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by 113312
Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:08 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Aircraft that are heavy on the controls or light?
Replies: 13
Views: 1607

Re: Aircraft that are heavy on the controls or light?

Most modern, and all large planes, have artificial feel. Control forces are also mandated in FAR Part 21 standards. However, older planes and particularly general aviation types, have different or no such standards. From my experience, the humble Piper Apache had the highest rudder force required wi...

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by 113312
Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:18 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Any opinions on hydraulic fuses?
Replies: 4
Views: 1195

Re: Any opinions on hydraulic fuses?

In the Boeing 727, the "B" hydraulic system had lockout valves in the brake system so that a burst brake line to any single brake would not disable all of the brakes. However, the fix in the DC-10 was really a band aid and only provided a limited salvage of flight control with a leak/loss ...

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by 113312
Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:35 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Was this Boeing 707 takeoff dangerous or only appears so to a non-pilot?
Replies: 8
Views: 2798

Re: Was this Boeing 707 takeoff dangerous or only appears so to a non-pilot?

That is a maximum weight balanced field takeoff. I've done plenty like that in the 727-200, DC-8-63 and others. I will not repeat them here, but look at the performance requirements for a transport aircraft and in particular what is expected if an engine fails after V-1.

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by 113312
Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:27 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: For pilots: Was the DC-10 a joy to fly?
Replies: 7
Views: 2621

Re: For pilots: Was the DC-10 a joy to fly?

It's a pretty good handling honest airplane. You might find responses from L1011 pilots who like the Lockheed better. Most pilots like the planes they fly regularly. The one plane I flew, a lot, that I didn't like was the EMB-110 Bandit. Hunk of junk.

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by 113312
Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:49 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: During a standing takeoff on a water-injected aircraft like the early 707, when does the water start?
Replies: 17
Views: 2978

Re: During a standing takeoff on a water-injected aircraft like the early 707, when does the water start?

Use of water/methanol was common on RR Dart power planes like the F-27 as well as many TPE-331 turboprops such as the Metro with the -303 series engine as well as the J-31. The point it to enhance takeoff weight carrying performance in hot/high conditions. Water/Meth is heavy and expensive so is rar...

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by 113312
Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:24 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Could the B727 takeoff in revenue service with a flap setting lower than Flaps 15?
Replies: 7
Views: 1491

Re: Could the B727 takeoff in revenue service with a flap setting lower than Flaps 15?

You NEVER would takeoff at less than Flaps 5 in a B727. It is necessary to have all of the leading edge flaps/slats extended as well as the outboard ailerons unlocked.

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by 113312
Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737-200 flight
Replies: 12
Views: 11070

Re: 737-200 flight

I've seen this flying around ( live near CNO).

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by 113312
Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:58 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SOP flap/slat movement on the DC-10
Replies: 21
Views: 2231

Re: SOP flap/slat movement on the DC-10

If you look closely to the photograph of the DC-10 Flap/Slat handles, you will see that there are markings for each: Flaps 0/15/22/35/50 and Slats: TO EXT & LAND EXT. The slat handle travels with the flap handle unless it is mechanically unlocked. With regard to the Dial-A-Flap, the selection wh...

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by 113312
Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:52 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SOP flap/slat movement on the DC-10
Replies: 21
Views: 2231

Re: SOP flap/slat movement on the DC-10

On the DC-10, the flap and slat handles are mechanically linked. For takeoff, a dial-a-flap setting is calculated and preselected. Preparing for takeoff, the handles are moved to lock into the Dial-A-Flap detent and this extends both the slats and trailing edge flaps. During climbout, the flaps are ...

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by 113312
Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:38 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Reducing to climb power during a turn
Replies: 12
Views: 2209

Re: Reducing to climb power during a turn

Bank angle limitation is a function of airspeed and stall margin.

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