It’s a great plane the range is just lacking that’s the only thing holding it back. Holding it back from what? It does exactly what it was desigined to do...deliver incredible CASM and Cargo capabiltiy for routes around 5,000 (of which there are many). It is more for routes around 4,000. Still, the...
Jump to postCPH is well placed for Germany too. It’s not always about location though. The amount of people I’ve meet who’ve flown to the US from Europe (Scandinavia) via Istanbul with Turkish always surprises me. CPH is a smaller airport also so the experience can be more pleasant for some. When I flew Finnai...
Jump to postWill we see any changes in service between the US and ARN? Seems like CPH is the better hub for European connections outside Scandinavia, but Sweden has demand of its own and I wonder what the plan is for SK at their other major hub. I expect that EWR flights will move to JFK soon. SK already stopp...
Jump to postToo many people looking at this unidirectionally. It's a pain in the butt to get from the southeastern USA to Scandinavia. DL has a very limited presence in the Nordic countries. This will help greatly. Actually, CPH hardly offers any new connections compared to what's already offered from AMS. New...
Jump to postAre you suggesting early A330-330s struggle to do <4,000 NM routes? That's not even SEA-NRT. Where DID NW plan to use them? Did they have to go out payload-optimized even for SEA/SFO-NRT? Without knowing the specifics of the NW A330-300s, the early A330-300s were a lot less capable than the ones th...
Jump to postPurely anecdotal here, but with some informed participants: I've chatted with some people involved with the A339 at DL (mainly pilots and ops-not dispatch) and the plane seems to have some runway/takeoff performance weaknesses when heavy. 1. On one fairly routine MSP-CDG sector, the longest runway ...
Jump to postI know this is an old topic, but it looks like AF will be brining the 472-seat 77W to YQB for NS24. https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231221-afns24inc I'd say this is as good a reason as any to resurrect a thread. The demand must really be there, and probably in both directions. The service starts 6 w...
Jump to postI'm surprised how the 359 and 35K are hauling more pax than the 10-abreast 77E and 77W! I always looked at the 359 as a similar-sized plane to the 77E, and the 35K as slightly smaller than the 77W. But for KLM, the 359 seats considerably more pax than the 77E, and the 35K slightly more than the 77W....
Jump to postWhy does the Delta A330 fly to NRT on her delivery flight?
Jump to postA significant number of A332s were mothballed during COVID. American had 15 Rolls Royce powered A332s they retired. They were acquired by US Airways between 2009 and 2014, so relatively low time before being parked in 2020. There aren't that many 330-200s stored today. Actually, the AA (former US) ...
Jump to post747classic wrote:Does KLM have spare 77W capacity ? : 17 days down time, only for the new livery of PH-BVA !!
Could CPH become hub for AF/KL to the Far East using the polar route to bypass Russia? ARN would make more sense... SAS, just like KLM, AF or BA, fly eastbound to Japan out and back. CPH-HND flies over Kazakhstan, HND-CPH over Alaska and Canada. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/sk983 http...
Jump to postAverage seats per flight de crease. AMS was a big 747 hub in the old days, then 777, it will be A350 and 787 and finally XLR. More slots are needed not less. But maybe Skyteam will just let SAS do what KLM did before? No, it doesn't. In 2008, KLM was flying only 5x 747-400 full pax. (2 more were co...
Jump to postCan we please get the political situation in AMS correct ! Thanks for the overview :-) 3. THERE WILL BE NO TRANSFER TAX, the Dutch parliament has WITHDRAWN the proposal to tax transfer passengers. So all the talk was about nothing!! It wasn't even a parliamentary proposal! It was one party, current...
Jump to postApart from northern Nordics (and there's not a lot of people in the north of the Nordics), Helsinki and the Baltics... where do you connect to via OSL or ARN ? Norway has been in NATO for a long time and Sweden recently joined NATO... I don't see Scandinavian - Russia relations improving for some t...
Jump to postnicode wrote:When will they join ST ? On January 1st 2024 ?
Although there’s a thread about SAS financials I thought this warrants a separate thread. Air France KLM will buy a stake in SAS. As part of the deal SAS will leave Star Alliance and join Skyteam. https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/SAS-AB-PUBL-9058794/news/SAS-reaches-major-milestone-in-SAS...
Jump to postI'm not saying critical, but it has quite some advantages in planning, scheduling, training and offers many forms of flexibility. It's in a mix together with all other costs including fuel, lease costs, etc, etc. When you sub fleet is under +/- 20, you miss out quite some flexibility. An example whe...
Jump to postMakes perfect sense. The 787-9 is a perfect replacement for the A330 and the upcoming 787-10 IGW can fly any mission the 777-200ER is now flying.
The 787 and 777 are flown by the same pilot pool at KLM, so they will only have one pool for the full long-haul fleet.
There are actually three categories of how you can arrive by air at a Schengen airport. 1) From Schengen (always sterile) 2) From Non-Schengen, sterile. This is valid for non Schengen EU countries (e.g. UK, Ireland, Romania) and specific other countries (USA, Canada) 3) From Non-Schengen, non-steril...
Jump to postNorway not being part of EU is certainly restrictive in handing out work permits to foreigners ... When it comes to work permits and free movement of people, Norway is by it's EEA membership no different than other EU countries meaning that all EU citizens can work in Norway. So I would expect migr...
Jump to postI found the block time quite amusing, KLM is scheduling the SJO-LIR leg at almost an hour - depending on the wind direction the actual flown distance will likely be under 200km / 120mi. Should be one of the shortest flights, if not the shortest, for the 787 worldwide and probably a really fun one. ...
Jump to postSince the tank only adds 500nm range, ? what do you want to say? The center tank adds 22,415 kg or 42,800 l of fuel. With the center tank you can take a lot of fuel, but you don't have the rake-off weight available to use it. An empty 333 with center fuel tank can fly a lot further than one without...
Jump to postSingapore flying its nonstop to Newark is a bit of a mystery, EWR has always been nonstop & JFK has been one -stop. Before they received the 340-500s used for the first iteration of SIN-EWR non-stop, SQ flew SIN-AMS-EWR using 744 and 772 equipment. After ditching the 345s they didn't serve EWR ...
Jump to postKLM, in the 2015/2016 Winter season, flew the 235t (no center tank) A330-300 3x weekly to SFO (next to 3x weekly 330-200). At the time, it was the 2nd longest 333-route. Also, in more distant past, they used the 763 in the winter season. To me, it shows that heavy cargo isn't so relevant for AMS-SFO...
Jump to postAMS is a popular destination for tourism from SFO and vice-versa. Both places are well respected and popular places to visit especially during the summer months. Demand is very good from both ends, and UA should do well on this route even though there is plenty of capacity. The yields have been goo...
Jump to postEdit: KL1146 was delayed one hour on the 25th. Was that the flight? PH-EZZ did that and the previous three legs AMS-OSL-AMS. Would the same crew have flown all four legs? That would mean first take off at 7 and last landing at 16 with longest turn around being 40 minutes. It sure sounds like a real...
Jump to postUnless B6 is getting widebodies, I don't see them "wasting" LHR slots on 321's TATL. How is it any different than the LHR slots AC and WestJet use on narrowbodys? I think the 321 will be the plane they use into LHR. AC already had these slots for ages, long before LHR was full. For AC, th...
Jump to postI can’t comment on the others, but YYZ sees 747/747M/77W/789. No Airbus flights. KLM does a huge amount of cargo shipping to YYZ, they frequently carry cars on the 747 combis. When those go away, it’s going to be interesting to see what they do, AMS-YYZ traffic is expanding pretty rapidly at over 1...
Jump to postWith respect to KL, it seems we are now nearing the end of the 744 (all-pax and Combi) era. What planes will take over the Jumbo routes? Can we expect to see 789s replacing the Combis? The 787-10s should probably be used for North American flights such as DTW, ATL, JFK, etc. How many A359s will be ...
Jump to postThey may not have a choice. Rumor has it that the LR will become the base model. The only choice they may have would be to not install the ACTs, I think. Typically, aircraft manufacturers sell different weight variants for different prices. The difference is only on paper, but it's a way for Airbus...
Jump to postAlthough the construction of actual runways been completed, these airports are not fully finished yet:
ETM - New Eilat airport
LEY - Lelystad airport (extending the 1250m to 2700m and construction of a terminal for commercial aviation)
Slightly unrelated but the OO-SFT got me thinking: I was extremely surprised that they have given their ex Swissair / Swiss / Edelweiss A330-200 P&W, MSN 291, which they received last January, the registration OO-SFT. The reason is that until 2002, Sabena also had an OO-SFT, which was also an A3...
Jump to post[ With the DL flight arriving into AMS at 7:55, the first connections you can make will be at 8:55. There is no way that KLM has 50 EU connections between 8:55 and 10:05 (1 hour after arrival of KL602). Heck, does KLM even serve 50 EU cities? So the only benefit of the new DL LAX-AMS flight will be ...
Jump to postThe regular A359 carries 141 000 litres. The A359 ULR carries 165 000. Just checked the ACAP.It says 138 000l for the A359 (my 135k was a brain fart) The A330-800 carries a lot of fuel for its size. Interesting, apparantly even Airbus has different numbers floating around. 141 000 comes from the pr...
Jump to postI would hate to be on that LAX-AMS flight. Wouldn't be able to sleep at all with a noon departure. I guess you just have to deal with that if you must be in AMS early morning. It's a very good time for connections to KLM's first wave of European departures, as well as their east and south Africa ro...
Jump to post9 tonne based on the fuel burn improvement Airbus quotes should allow around 7346nm range for the A330-900 with the weight increase. Allowing close to the 7500nm range of the 242t A330-800. Would allow carriers with both models to more easily be swapped out if needed. What would a 251t A330-800 be ...
Jump to postastuteman wrote:The A330NEO carries 139 000l fuel (vs 135 000l for the long-legged A350-900)
[url][/url] Easyjet has not exactly succeeded in Germany outside Berlin SXF (and there they are now No2 after Ryanair). No idea why they expect to succeed now. easyJet is usually more effective in the markets with slightly higher yields. DUS is a very attractive market, way more attractive than thei...
Jump to postThanks for this information, so do you think MPS will end up being scrapped, or do you think it will remain in the fleet for the foreseeable future now it has its D-check. Bar exceptional circumstances, the aircraft will fly as a freighter until the next D-check is due, so 5-6 years. Of course, as ...
Jump to postSo, what does Oneworld do? You can't run every U.S. passenger flying to Europe through LHR or MAD. Air Berlin was hardly of any use for OneWorld carriers. No OneWorld carrier even has a long-haul flight from DUS and QR operates the sole OneWorld flight from TXL. (And I'm not sure if they cooperated...
Jump to postHow is seasonality for the domestic market as SWA servers in the USA? 66 aircraft is about 9% of the fleet. And considering that the -300s are heavier on maintenance and likely don't fly as much as their newer counterparts, I guess they make up some 7% of the ASM. Would this be comparable to a norma...
Jump to post@AWACSooner, there was also their Dortmund operation. Launched as a 4 aircraft base in 2005, they now only have a flight to LTN left. Indeed, little luck in Germany.
Jump to postPermanent transfers. They have been fully reconfigured to KLM spec in Norwich by KLM uk engineering. In order for easy reconfiguration, all KLM and Transavia 737s are, except for the interior, all delivered according to the same specs. This makes it easy to move the aircraft between fleets. This ca...
Jump to postThat is a short flight. 291 km by road and a little more than 2 hours in Thalys. I find curious that AFKL had said that they would cancel smaller planes and shorter routes to get slots for long-haul ones, and now they are starting AMS-LIL. Also which kind of connectivity do you get with 4 weekly an...
Jump to postPer http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/269301/klm-s17-long-haul-changes-as-of-11oct16/ Amsterdam – Los Angeles 13 weekly flights will operate for entire summer 2017 season (previously reported). Boeing 777-200ER will begin operating this route, replacing 747-400COMBI/-400PAX on KL603/6...
Jump to postSorry my friend but I am not saying it's untrue, just that as of this very moment the official KLM website still shows that at least 1 or more 777_3000's still have the old product. Maybe it's just that it takes time for the website to reflect the changes It's only the seat map page that has not be...
Jump to postI just transferred through AMS (KL to DL); do they have a new security setup now? we went through a rather large central security area going from F to D, and there was no more secondary screening at the gate. DL had a paperwork gate set up at D1, but it was just stupid questions and stickers. At le...
Jump to post@ikolkyo: Planespotters (and equally airfleets.net) is very unreliable for determing in aircraft are owned, finance lease or operational leased. The only reliable data is data provided in most airlines' annual reports. For Air France - KLM, page 20: http://www.airfranceklm.com/sites/default/files/pu...
Jump to postI fully expect the A350-900HGW will replace the 777-200LR Already the current production A350-900 can replace the 77L on practically all routes, with significant savings on the fuel bill. SQs A350-900 SIN-SFO is even 6 nm longer than DLs longest 777-200LR route, ATL-JNB. I wouldn't be surprised to ...
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