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by eamondzhang
Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A333 flying DL295 ATL-HND today
Replies: 30
Views: 9747

Re: A333 flying DL295 ATL-HND today

You must be mixing those A332s (PW engine) and A333s (new RR engine) together! :) CX also has A332 with RR 6101509 Yep but they haven't flown intercontinentally for ages, and still in old cabin config with angled lie flat. Most of them are on their way out I believe so I discounted them. Yeah you'r...

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by eamondzhang
Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A333 flying DL295 ATL-HND today
Replies: 30
Views: 9747

Re: A333 flying DL295 ATL-HND today

IIRX China Southern actually has there 242t version with PW. Not the PW ones. PW ones are 233/235t. Their new 242t ones are with RR. Michael Yeah you're right haha. I thought I remembered a CZ 333 with PW's at CDG, I was tripping. You must be mixing those A332s (PW engine) and A333s (new RR engine)...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A333 flying DL295 ATL-HND today
Replies: 30
Views: 9747

Re: A333 flying DL295 ATL-HND today

If Delta could do over those 242t A330s they would have went PW, they were purchased not too long after the merger. I still think it was to appease GE after helping Delta in Chapter 11. IIRC a/c financed with GE and a deal strike with CF6 engine, plus CF6 burns better over long distance (in fact ev...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 10, 2020 5:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 22119

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020

People know what do. People aren't doing it. So who knows how long it goes for. Meanwhile, sticking to aviation (that's why we're here, right?) my source is only Facebook discussions so not really a source, but talk that EK will be stopping SYD. Whether they mean DXB-SYD, DXB-SYD-CHC or SYD-CHC no ...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 22119

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020

Does QF own the 787s outright? According to an earlier forum post the 787 pilots are not paid as much as the 330 crews? Operating expenditure is given as the reason behind parking the 787, but it does not seem to be the case? Does anyone have insights into this? I think you read the opposite as 787...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QANTAS to mothball most of the 787 fleet
Replies: 86
Views: 29078

Re: QANTAS to mothball most of the 787 fleet

And shall I add, given the fuel price right now the difference between fuel costs for A330 and 789 is not as substantial (shall I use the word minimal...) Of course we're not talking about USA flights tho, only those within A330's capabilities.

Michael

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by eamondzhang
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A333 flying DL295 ATL-HND today
Replies: 30
Views: 9747

Re: A333 flying DL295 ATL-HND today

If Delta could do over those 242t A330s they would have went PW, they were purchased not too long after the merger. I still think it was to appease GE after helping Delta in Chapter 11. IIRC a/c financed with GE and a deal strike with CF6 engine, plus CF6 burns better over long distance (in fact ev...

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by eamondzhang
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 22119

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020

QF seem to think sending there 789s off to storage makes more sense. Yet NZ is operating there 789s up 6x daily into Australia with most being only freight. Yep QF would know better than most of us what is best for their fleet :roll: What NZ does with their fleet is not particularly relevant to QF ...

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by eamondzhang
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Shenzhen Airlines A333 suffers cabin pressurization problem, returns to SZX
Replies: 21
Views: 4730

Re: Shenzhen Airlines A333 'dives thousands of metres'

Seems like an emergency descent in order to depressive, nothing too out of the ordinary. Very typical A.net response :) While the steps to correct an emergency situation might be standard, the experience is most definitely out of the ordinary for both crew and passengers. Diving from 9,297m to 3,73...

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by eamondzhang
Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional
Replies: 96
Views: 13757

Re: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional

And let's not forget SIA operated a fleet of 17 A340-300s for a while before withdrawing them due to performance issue (weight limitation on flights to Europe). Small correction: SQ did not withdrew the A340's from service. Boeing bought them at a price they couldn't really refuse.[/quote] My read ...

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by eamondzhang
Sat Aug 08, 2020 3:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas B744, PVG, Aug-5-2020: triple engine pod strike
Replies: 54
Views: 17097

Re: Atlas B744, PVG, Aug-5-2020: triple engine pod strike

Those crosswind landings are cool, but here the wind was close to straight down the runway, albeit gusty. Atlas just came out today with record earnings and gave lots of applause to its CEO for his (hardball) strategy in dealing with the pilots, which they emphasized was entirely his. Disgraceful. ...

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by eamondzhang
Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional
Replies: 96
Views: 13757

Re: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional

@eamondzhang Most pax operators in Asia have ditched 767s, and A330s/A350s/787s are doing sub-3hr flight across the region on a daily basis Of course, the simple reason for that is that there is no new wide-body with modern engines. Hence, the only possibility is to "abuse" long-range pla...

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by eamondzhang
Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional
Replies: 96
Views: 13757

Re: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional

Although smaller, that’s essentially what the original 787-3 idea was supposed to be, but shedding costs in the unique features that was supposed to make it worthwhile ended up with a plane only marginally better than the 787-8 and rather pointless. I don’t think a new variant’s potential costs out...

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by eamondzhang
Thu Aug 06, 2020 4:41 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?
Replies: 58
Views: 11878

Re: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?

You can say a lot about the MD-11 (And trust me I can add plenty from a planning side) but it does a heck of a job in the cargo world. Capacity is massive and the wingspan keeps it in gateways that might lose a parking spot should you put a 747-8 or 777 in there. This is a biggie that people forget...

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by eamondzhang
Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional
Replies: 96
Views: 13757

Re: Is there a Business Case for a 787-9 regional

I read somewhere that they derate those engines for the less fuel they fill those planes on those routes. It was said, China Eastern,Southern will not use the 787-8 or 9s on their regional routes because the aircrafts are too heavy. These exact two carriers flies 787-8 and -9 on sub-3hr flights mul...

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by eamondzhang
Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 22119

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020

Virgin Australia gets rid of ATR, Boeing 777, Airbus A330 and Tigerair Airbus A320 aircraft types, keeping 737s and regional/charter fleet https://newsroom.virginaustralia.com/release/virgin-australia-group-announces-plan-focus-core-strengths-re-establishing-itself-iconic Also to add in the release...

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by eamondzhang
Tue Aug 04, 2020 5:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 22119

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020

Is Rex still pushing ahead with this plan? Haven’t heard any further details, but still so many unknowns. I suppose they could time it right as VA will be struggling over the next few months accruing debit, as opposed to things opening up now giving VA 8months to rebuild ahead of a ZL relaunch. Sha...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Aeroflot 77Ws and A359 being stored
Replies: 32
Views: 7969

Re: Aeroflot not taking two new 77W

It would more likely be a result of coronavirus crisis than anything else, just like what other airlines are doing by postponing new planes and so forth.

Michael

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas (GTI) Callsign "Qantas" (QFA)
Replies: 18
Views: 3392

Re: Atlas (GTI) Callsign "Qantas" (QFA)

It's a wet-lease for QFA flying QFA's route under QFA traffic right, so it's common to use the lessee's callsign.

Michael

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA service to Australia over the years
Replies: 45
Views: 6599

Re: BA service to Australia over the years

SYD is the only remaining and from what I read in this forum a while ago had these flights (BA15/6) not switched to mixed-fleet crewing it would likely be canned already as well - of course we're talking about a pre-COVID world The tired 773 service to SYD always seems like a strange hangover from ...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA service to Australia over the years
Replies: 45
Views: 6599

Re: BA service to Australia over the years

If Wiki is to be believe (I know): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Airways_destinations They have flown to BNE, PER, MEL and ADL beforehand which all got terminated They also went AKL and CHC on the other side the pond and these two also get canned SYD is the only remaining and from wh...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 22119

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020

Really terrific news in an otherwise bleak time. Alliance really have capitalized on the opportunities brought by COVID. Indeed congratulations to them. An intersting choice given a lot of carriers are stating these birds are costly to operate (specifically engine overhaul an awful price to pay). I...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020
Replies: 182
Views: 22119

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - August 2020

Alliance Aviation have announced to the ASX this morning that they are acquiring 14 E190 aircraft and spares plus options for further aircraft from Azorra Aviation in the US for USD$79.4 million. From the announcement: https://www.asx.com.au/asx/statistics/displayAnnouncement.do?display=pdf&ids...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian to cut workforce by 35%
Replies: 51
Views: 11165

Re: Hawaiian to cut workforce by 35%

One thing that can increase yields is to make the JFK and BOS flights connect with the SYD, BNE and AKL flights. New York to Sydney is really expensive even in J Pre-Corona. Right now only the West Coast flights connect with the Oceania flights. Have JFK & BOS ever been timed to connect to BNL/...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vistara to launch London, Frankfurt and Paris
Replies: 33
Views: 9178

Re: Vistara to launch London, Frankfurt and Paris

trinidadeG wrote:
These are only repatriation flights. Just like SpiceJet's 'Wet-leased' HiFly A330neo. I won't be surprised if 9W also deploys a couple of 777s

9W is dead in the water for more than a year.

Michael

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by eamondzhang
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ cancelled plans for BRU, are loads that bad on EU flights?
Replies: 20
Views: 4275

Re: SQ cancelled plans for BRU, are loads that bad on EU flights?

Singapore does not allow international transit, so even if you're on a flight BKK-SIN or KUL-SIN or JKT-SIN (the bread and butter connections), you're not allowed to take a connection, even though you'd stay airside all the time. That cut off significant revenue potential and gave traffic to QR, EK...

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by eamondzhang
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ flights to LAS, YYZ & ORD and JFK via BRU
Replies: 54
Views: 10801

Re: SQ flights to LAS, YYZ & ORD and JFK via BRU

They did at one time run both LAX-NRT-SIN and LAX-ICN-SIN after they exited SFO-ICN-SIN (as SFO gained non-stop to SIN). The plane that came from ICN went back to NRT and vice versa. Michael I agree SQ operated both SIN-NRT-LAX and SIN-ICN-LAX. However, I do not think the plane coming from ICN went...

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by eamondzhang
Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ flights to LAS, YYZ & ORD and JFK via BRU
Replies: 54
Views: 10801

Re: SQ flights to LAS, YYZ & ORD and JFK via BRU

raylee67 wrote:
USAirALB wrote:
Old North American routes:
LAX-ICN-SIN
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I think it was LAX-NRT-SIN?

They did at one time run both LAX-NRT-SIN and LAX-ICN-SIN after they exited SFO-ICN-SIN (as SFO gained non-stop to SIN).

The plane that came from ICN went back to NRT and vice versa.

Michael

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by eamondzhang
Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Beijing Daxing (PKX) News and Discussion - 2020
Replies: 19
Views: 2375

Re: Is Hainan Airlines going to move to Daxing airport?

HU itself is not moving across. In fact it'll occupy the majority of T2 @ PEK after MU and CZ largely moved across to PKX.

Some of the subsidiaries within the group will or have moved already (JD for example).

Michael

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by eamondzhang
Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Austria's Lauda to close, be replaced with new Maltese unit
Replies: 187
Views: 23477

Re: Updated: Laudamotion scaling down VIE base to 10 aircraft, from 16

these subsidiaries are getting ridiculous to avoid union and legalities, if its that easy to do why bother. Scrap them all and let FR do it’s thing. I’m surprised FR didn’t let them just ‘go under’ citing covid, then resurface later. And tax avoidance in some cases. And I totally agree - these Euro...

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by eamondzhang
Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020
Replies: 366
Views: 55103

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Qantas A380 VH-OQD will ferry LAX-VCV (QF6007) on Monday, July 27 Qantas A380 VH-OQC will ferry LAX-VCV (QF6007) on Tuesday, July 28 That's what I've heard, although that can change. That leaves 3 Qantas A380s that are not at VCV: VH-OQB, VH-OQG, and VH-OQI. VH-OQB: Will remain at LAX for a while, ...

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by eamondzhang
Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LH to restructucture SN
Replies: 156
Views: 31761

Re: Updated: LH to restructucture SN

ZX357 wrote:
If Lufthansa really wants to increase its share of the African market, South African Airways is practically for sale.

An airline that is a financial drain that is beyond repair?

Seriously one would be better off setting up a whole new airline in South Africa than buying SAA

Michael

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by eamondzhang
Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific/Dragon Retires The World's First A330
Replies: 42
Views: 9743

Re: Cathay Pacific/Dragon Retires The World's First A330

I'm surprised at the low utilization. An A330 is certified for 180,000 hours and 60,000 cycles and over 24 years, this plane was just broken in. Lightsaber Same, I thought they would have used it to high-90s at the very least. But given their schedule and frequent long overnight stops I was not too...

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by eamondzhang
Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Does Boeing paint its planes before delivery
Replies: 7
Views: 1547

Re: Does Boeing paint its planes before delivery

Dutchy wrote:
But they are painted before delivery, right? No airline will accept a plane which isn't fully painted and send it to a paint shop themselves.

Unless they just took the plane over from someone else of course (e.g. a ntu frame)

Michael

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by eamondzhang
Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian B77F on fire at PVG
Replies: 93
Views: 29315

Re: Ethiopian B77F on fire at PVG

The airline says per this: https://www.flightglobal.com/ethiopian-777f-suffers-major-fire-in-shanghai/139423.article that it was on a Brussels-Shanghai-Sao Paulo-Santiago routing...thats a long routing on a flight that according to what they said didnt even touch Addis Ababa... PVG-GRU sector canno...

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by eamondzhang
Thu Jul 23, 2020 1:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian B77F on fire at PVG
Replies: 93
Views: 29315

Re: Ethiopian B77F on fire at PVG

The airline says per this: https://www.flightglobal.com/ethiopian-777f-suffers-major-fire-in-shanghai/139423.article that it was on a Brussels-Shanghai-Sao Paulo-Santiago routing...thats a long routing on a flight that according to what they said didnt even touch Addis Ababa... PVG-GRU sector canno...

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by eamondzhang
Tue Jul 21, 2020 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 335
Views: 71812

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Only problem I see with the BA/QF fleets for example are the Rolls Royce RB211 engines. Altas for example uses GE and P&W. But who knows for the right price anything is possible plus of course the remaining flight time left per jet. The Qantas B747-400ER fleet was GE powered and these have long...

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by eamondzhang
Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 335
Views: 71812

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Air India stored, might never fly again, Asiana has 1 left, Korean Air Stored, Lufthansa stored and who knows if will return. The only airline flying passenger 744 currently seems to be Rossiya. Asiana has been operating passenger flights with its one 747-400 in the past few weeks. They are flying ...

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by eamondzhang
Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020
Replies: 366
Views: 55103

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/virgin-australia-star-alliance The call for VA to join Star Alliance would never end until they do. The biggest obstacle has been the JV with DL but increasingly their LAX routes look less important given their new strategic direction and what's going on in t...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020
Replies: 366
Views: 55103

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

VH-EBL has landed in BNE at this time. Flight QF6121, Inbound from storage at AVV. First QF 332 movement I’ve seen in months. Over the next few weeks you’ll see a number of the AVV stored A330’s ferried to SYD, MEL & BNE. I heard it through the grapevine AVV conditions are terrible for short to...

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by eamondzhang
Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 747
Views: 117473

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

DL needs more A350 it is impossible for them to fly 13 A350 you are all routes LAX-SYD/HND/PVG ATL-HND/ICN/JNB/PVG DTW-ICN/PKX/PVG/HND MSP-HND/ICN JFK-BOM Much more than 13 A350s needed All 330 variants and most the 76-300ERs can fly LAX-HND. All 330 variants can fly LAX-PVG, although in some westb...

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by eamondzhang
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: BA fleet parking, will retire 747 fleet
Replies: 284
Views: 75557

Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, will retire 747 fleet

Strato2 wrote:
This will decimate dedicated freighter sales as there are now an ample supply of nearly free feedstock for P2F conversion.

Not for 744BCF which is basically dead already.

Michael

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by eamondzhang
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020
Replies: 366
Views: 55103

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

New capacity restrictions today - SYD flights now capped inbound at 30pax aligning with BNE.... things get tough for the internationals. It would be interesting to see what departure loads are like at the moment. I don't know how many foreign nationals remain in Australia which would make up the bu...

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by eamondzhang
Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Narrow Body Thread - 2020
Replies: 315
Views: 24390

Re: Why have DL's A320-200s not been retired?

Delta A320 N326US filed MSP-SBD 9AM - 10:33AM as DL9960 tomorrow (July 15). As I commented in the SoCal Boneyard Storage and Activity Thread, Delta are taking 2 A320s out of storage of SBD today and they don't have maintenance facilities at SBD (for Delta) so it's not re-storage or maintenance. At ...

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by eamondzhang
Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020
Replies: 366
Views: 55103

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Does anyone know the departure time for VH-OEJ from LAX to VCV on July 23rd? I understand it will be Friday 24 July, QF7474 departing LAX at around 0930, my information has it? BZF Is the extra day to remove the Qantas titles? Crew rest is more likely the reason especially when IIRC none of the cur...

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by eamondzhang
Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020
Replies: 366
Views: 55103

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

Sorry, I may have misread - anstar, are you Oz citizen or PR? If yes, you're allowed to return to 14 day hotel quarantine if you can get here. If not citizen or PR, you'd need a special exemption to travel here. Well managed hotel quarantine for international entries had been a key to control in Au...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020
Replies: 366
Views: 55103

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - July 2020

So do I, but even 2022 is looking unlikely, at least without strict quarantine. Australia is largely on an elimination path, and the US seems to be doing the opposite. Does anyone know if Australia plans to reduce the quarantine sentence for inbound citizens from America? Or is that likely to stay ...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:10 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Chinese passenger denied boarding from Cathay flight?
Replies: 9
Views: 2345

Re: Chinese passenger denied boarding from Cathay flight?

I know at least one person who has successfully flown YVR-HKG-KUL-CAN about a week ago. CX in YVR even printed their boarding pass for the MH KUL-CAN segment. So such itineraries are definitely hit or miss presently and likely largely up to the interpretation of the "no Mainland transfer via H...

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by eamondzhang
Mon Jul 13, 2020 4:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Envoy 3594 Emergency Gear Issue at ORD 7/12
Replies: 4
Views: 2046

Re: Envoy 3594 Emergency Gear Issue at ORD 7/12

Going 100% armchair I assume either someone forgot to remove the pin or there's an indication issue?

Cheers,
Michael

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by eamondzhang
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda Indonesia Plans DPS-LAX/SFO/PAR/BOM/DEL
Replies: 46
Views: 6401

Re: Garuda Indonesia Plans DPS-LAX/SFO/PAR/BOM/DEL

Does DPS even need TPAC flights? since even larger Southeast Asian cities like CGK, KUL or even BKK (which has much more TPAC demand than DPS or even CGK) can't even sustain TPAC demand due to all the cheap Chinese airlines with the 737-800 fleets dumping capacity onto Southeast Asia. One has to ad...

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