Re: Cleveland Aviation - 2024

Guess which airline is back sun country. Starting in July it is every other day. Looks like it starts May 17. Starts on the same date and operates on the same days as F9 announced yesterday. Speedy response by SY. May have already been in the works by SY--F9 may have forced their presser out earlie...

Re: Cleveland Aviation - 2024

mannymanatee wrote:

Guess which airline is back sun country. Starting in July it is every other day.

Re: The future of Silver Airways

Not that much intrastate service? There’s tons of intrastate flights within the state. There’s a ton of intrastate service in Florida given the size of the state. 3M and AA/MQ are the largest of operators in that regard, but there’s also a smattering of seasonal routes and P2P as well. A ton of int...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

They might want to look at boosting their interline portfolio. Airlines like AS and SY may be good fits. They could use 3M’s intra-Florida network to grow their offerings in Florida. They do need to improve their on-time performance They have an agreement already with AS ... SUN COUNTRY ? https://e...

Re: The future of Silver Airways

They might want to look at boosting their interline portfolio. Airlines like AS and SY may be good fits. They could use 3M’s intra-Florida network to grow their offerings in Florida.

They do need to improve their on-time performance

Re: Sun Country Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

https://tcbmag.com/we-tried-the-sun-country-fee-waiver-hack/ I find this absolutely hilarious. This new hidden $22 fee has really made the news in the Twin Cities. So much so that people are ACTUALLY going to the airport to purchase tickets in person. Doubt this will change SY's mind about the whol...

Re: Sun Country adding 11 destinations

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rainaviation2 wrote:

Shows that they are maintaining IAH and HOU --> THAT will be confusing on their booking site because they are both just labeled at "Houston"

Re: Sun Country adding 11 destinations

GSPSPOT wrote:

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I noticed the flights on FR24.

Re: Sun Country adding 11 destinations

I still see the occasional Sun Country flight to/from MKE, but the destinations look to me like they're charters and no longer scheduled. Is MKE still a scheduled station? MKE looks to be 4x next summer. Charters won’t show on their website. It's all from MSP, 2x weekly each. Thank you for the info...

Re: Sun Country Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

af773atmsp wrote:

Did SY retire the last of their 737-700s?

Re: Raleigh / Durham Aviation - 2023

Well we know that RDU has actually exceeded its 2019 passenger levels and that the route itself is incentivized by the airport. And if the demand is almost exactly the same as someone else stated above, it shouldn’t matter at all if TPA is “more appealing” during those months considering the number...

Re: LNK announcement March 30

CIDFlyer wrote:

Well that’s certainly interesting I’d think maybe Avelo would have been a better option or SY with MCO/LAS and maybe an MSP flight for connections. Hope they aren’t biting off more than they can chew

Re: Sun Country Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

eraugrad02 wrote:

Can a passenger book a flight from say ILM-SFO if there is a flight schedule to leave an hour (or more) on the same day?

Thanks for opining,
Des in ILM

Re: U.S. DOT carrier operating stats full year 2022

Spirit and JetBlue’s wheelchair mishandle rate is atrocious. DOT should take a look into this.

Re: Sun Country Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

have to be honest - at this point, with everything they're doing, not really sure how anyone can sit here and write that Minneapolis to Provo, or pretty much any other destination within reach of a 737 from Minneapolis, doesn't fit Sun Country's business model. SY's business model is to take Minnes...

Re: Sun Country Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

Any news or rumors of further fleet growth? The 738s seem to be hitting the spot… plenty of good frames available! “Sun Country is already lining up aircraft deliveries for 2024 and 2025, and the airline plans to add 7-9 “aircraft to its fleet in each of those years, Davis said. https://aviationwee...

Re: BFM (Mobile) new airline 3/7

Avelo to RDU/HPN. Maybe Breeze.

Re: Spirit Route Shuffle

usflyer msp wrote:

NK hasn't flown MSPBWI in quite some time, I want to say it was dropped preCOVID

Re: Sun Country Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

Any word if Sun Country is continuing it's deal with Major League Soccer this year? The past 2 seasons they were the exclusive operator to transport the teams (with the exception of domestic Canadian flights). Yes. It was a five year deal starting last year and have already been flying teams during...

Re: Minneapolis Aviation - 2023

Does anyone else think it's weird that SY is promoting bus service from both DLH and FAR to connect with a handful of SY flights? It's a 3 hour trip, once a day from FAR, so it probably won't even connect with many SY flights. Sounds more advantageous to DL and other airlines than SY, specifically....

Re: Austin Aviation - 2023

Appears that NK has pulled AUS-CUN based on their website. This seemed to be a route with too much capacity on it.

Re: Sun Country Airlines News and Discussion - 2023

wish the new TVC summer svc made connections. many of the new seasonal adds do I think there is more summer schedule to be loaded into the system for SY. There are some obvious blocks missing in their schedule that they have operated consistently for years that haven't been loaded. What blocks are ...

Re: TWA Flight 800 - Revisted

Most don’t realize there were two TWA 800 accidents. The 1996 one and the 1964 one in Rome that killed 50 people.

Re: Raleigh / Durham Aviation Thread - 2022

RDU hasn’t been on the G4 route map on their website for a few months now.

Rumor has it they are cutting a number of PGD destinations.

Over the summer, G4 averaged over a 90% load factor on most of their CVG routes. A lot of those were served daily or close to daily.

Re: AA to end service to DBQ, others?

KCaviator wrote:

https://www.superhits106.com/2022/11/02/new-airline-and-destination-to-be-announced-at-dubuque-airport/

Announcement tomorrow for new airline service. My guess is Avelo or Sun Country, with Allegiant being the dark horse.

Re: Sun country widebodies, Europe?

No one is accounting for widebodies for Amazon. If they get widebodies, it would be one they could use for freighter and pax operations.

Re: United States Essential Air Service (EAS) Thread

BangersAndMash wrote:

Personally what shocks me more is that the new EAU contract will not start until December 1.

DOT seems to have a bit of a problem with the word 'expedite'.

Re: What will happen to shorter routes when airlines replace 50 seaters?

The only way buses make any sense is if they can be operated sterile and you can clear security at the local airport That's exactly how Landine service works. Clear security at the local airport and go straight into the sterile area in PHL. Not with Landline at MSP. You clear security at T2 at MSP.

Re: Delta Airlines shipping mistake kills millions of bees

Unless their policy has changed, Delta will pay hardly anything for the death of these bees because payout is based on weight of the bees.

Re: Raleigh / Durham Aviation Thread - 2022

From the RDU Facebook page, Spirit set to move to Terminal 1 with gates A1-4. Interesting… Hopefully Allegiant will be able to get a gate there also (course, they may actually need to fly their routes out of RDu). But it will open a gate for someone to use or to have available for a new entrant. FI...

Re: Sun Country - News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Is part of Sun Country's success due to outsourcing? Do they currently employ any of their airport agents or mechanics, or do they all work for other companies? SY has insourced their T2 agents at MSP and all Reservations agents. Mechanics in MSP are SY as well. Since most of their stations are sea...

Re: Sun Country - News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Doubt 15 more planes are arriving this year. They’ve already commented multiple times they aren’t setup for more growth than one aircraft a month. That’s what they already have arranged.

Re: Sun Country - News and Discussion Thread - 2022

SY seems to have had a rough week. First they had a 30-hour data outage last week which caused several days of delays and cancellations, and now over new years weekend they handling issues at MSP as weather and very high volume COVID sick calls left the operation hamstrung. Is it just me or do they...

Re: Icelandair announces RDU

This route is almost laughable. You know there are markets outside of the NYC area right? Not a very big one from Durham to Iceland…I can tell you that much. And as for St Louis, 20 years ago, when it had a flight to Europe, it had close to 50,000 more people…which really says it all. Either way, g...

Re: What Airline Would You Like To Own And What Would You Do Different?

Sun Country. Add E170s. Create a hub similar to MSP at MKE to focus on being the airline of the Midwest. Add Spirit style big seats for front two rows on the 738s. Add WiFi.

Re: Problems for Wheelchair/mobility equipment users and flying

Everybody should see the number of DOT complaints Allegiant has had in the recent ATCRs. It is insane for the number of passengers they carry.

Re: 2 SY 738's damaged in storm at MSP

hiflyeras wrote:

airfleet.net shows they have 47 airframes. They likely can handle two being out of service for a bit.

Re: 2 SY 738's damaged in storm at MSP

MIflyer12 wrote:

Anybody have definitive info on how many spares SY typically keeps in peak season?

Re: 2 SY 738's damaged in storm at MSP

Gusts were up to 64 mph that night at MSP.

Re: US Infrastructure Bill

Only if they all become hyperloops.

Re: In the US, are there flaws in the ULCC business models Traditional Network Carriers can exploit?

A big flaw is the lack of ticketing agreements in the event of IRROPs. Spirit has pulled out the corporate business card to buy many tickets on other carriers this week.

Re: Expressjet relaunch as independent carrier?

I think times have changed alot since independence air . I think it's much easier for a new airline then It was then. I think the legacies have sunk in quality and offerings are so similar to LCCs that most flyers are alot less loyal then they were in the day of independence air. Also miles are way...

Re: Swoop adding San diego, Orlando sanford, and St Pete

Second new carrier for PIE in less than two months.

Re: Raleigh / Durham Aviation Thread - 2021

AVLAirlineFreq wrote:

ERJ170 wrote:

Can we get some WestJet, AeroMexico, and some other international love? Good Lawd!

In this environment? Not likely. And Aeromexico would be a longshot even in normal times.

Re: Post Flight Airline Surveys

I work for a smaller airline, but we absolutely read them. Part of it is the feedback while some is to ensure Part 382 compliance.

Re: AA and Airline Staffing Levels

At one of the AA subsidiaries they put in a bonus system begging employees not to call out sick and pick up an extra 40 hours each month through the summer. They also are denying most vacation requests for Gate and Ramp agents. At CLT AA outsourced wheelchair assistance to Prospect which pays $9hr ...

Re: Sun Country SBA\STS service

The -700 in the fleet is not in VIP configuration anymore.

Re: Sun Country New Destinations 4/27

Sun Country really going after G4 with PIE, PGD, and AZA.