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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2665
Views: 344915

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

is what you can get away as airplane manufacturer due to grandfathering. I would be very anxious evacuating via this route if I would be normally functioning 70-80 year old. Certainly more than a few broken bones. Now, increasing THAT height - impossible. Image is here: https://aviationweek.com/sit...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2665
Views: 344915

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

...and all these problems just because of the short main landing gear? It has been the common truth now for so long that the landing gear for the 737 cannot be lengthened. Can someone please explain why that is so impossible to do? There are a lot of reasons, but in case of emergency on the 737 you...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2665
Views: 344915

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

...and all these problems just because of the short main landing gear?

It has been the common truth now for so long that the landing gear for the 737 cannot be lengthened. Can someone please explain why that is so impossible to do?

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by 14ccKemiskt
Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2665
Views: 344915

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Is the following scenario at all plausible: - The FAA mandates the Max to be recertified as a new model, with a full new type rating. - Boeing reponds with launching the NSA and at the same time offering all airlines with a Max on order to keep it (knowing that extra pilot training would be necessar...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2665
Views: 344915

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/23/ralph-n ... again.html
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Ralph Nader (again) demands that the MAX is grounded until recertified as a new airplane.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/23/ralph-n ... again.html

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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Unverified: Fiji Airways skips 737 MAX quality inspections.
Replies: 118
Views: 19043

Re: Unverified: Fiji Airways skips 737 MAX quality inspections.

Just a clarification question: Who is employing the Customer Coordinator, Boeing or the Customer?

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by 14ccKemiskt
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019
Replies: 2665
Views: 344915

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

A tipping point must be coming up where if a fix is not agreed worldwide, and soon, they will have to halt production at Renton. I really hope someone at Boeing is working on a Plan B. Rest assured that Plan B is identical to Plan A – Get that MAX back in the air, whatever it takes! Included in &qu...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

EDIT: In fact the FAA did communicate: https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=93206 "On the most recent issue, the FAA’s process is designed to discover and highlight potential risks. The FAA recently found a potential risk that Boeing must mitigate. " It is important to the FAA that TH...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

So no new news for the international regulators, no leaks of information or is that only an American thing? We know the FAA has the fix, any word on their timeline for reviewing the fix? Once done we know test flights will follow then a period for review before approval or rejection, that would at ...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Or the calls for better training (not me but people made them) after the Colgan crash or the Asiana SFO crash. All related to poor training and all saveable with proper training. We almost shouldn't have had any fatal's in the last 10 years if training was doing what it was supposed too. Quite fran...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/6/11/18 ... ax-scandal
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Long interview with Delta's Ed Bastian regarding the Max situation. He says the industry has been traumatized by the affair.

https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/6/11/18 ... ax-scandal

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Of course the disagree light fuss is a Red Herring. You have to ask yourself why Boeing is so quick to accept blame for the non-functioning AoA disagree light. They know that they easily can prove that the light would have made little difference in the two crashes and hence they'd rather have people...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Seems likely to me one year from now these tragic events will have largely faded away from the public consciousness. Yes, that outcome is not unlikely, but it is not certain. Airlines will surely accept the Max, once ungrounded. And they will not hold any particular grudgeeither, their bottom line ...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

The 737 Max described as an "airplane non grata" by analyst. I know that people forget quickly but this will be at least initially a problem for airlines. The fact that Southwest and United will let people rebook for free if they don't wanna fly on the Max will be there as a reminder for p...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

A late change, and fatal flaws, in a Boeing jet design https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/a-late-change-and-fatal-flaws-in-a-boeing-jet-design/ So originally MCAS was designed to use two sensors, two different sensors. AoA and g-force. Reading this article, assuming that it is a true represe...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Here is a new article about the 737 MAX and MCAS. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/01/business/boeing-737-max-crash.html The point that was new to me was that Boeing discovered they could have low speed stalls as well as the high speed stalls that have been talked about. So they could not use a g fo...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Thu May 23, 2019 8:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Seems like the FAA is in full denial. Of course they failed in review and certification of the MAX. How can they claim something like this? No wonder the world's other agencies no longer trust them! Despite two crashes involving the Boeing 737 MAX, the acting administrator of the Federal Aviation Ad...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri May 17, 2019 7:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

In a statement Thursday, APA President Captain Daniel Carey cited the November meeting and said “Dennis Muilenberg and his engineers need to take full responsibility for the 346 deaths,” Carey added. “Boeing needs to stop dodging responsibility and stop blaming dead pilots for its mistakes.” Pilots...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Thu May 16, 2019 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Boeing says it has completed the development of updated software for the 737 Max https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/16/boeing-says-it-has-completed-the-development-of-updated-software-for-the-737-max.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain Since Boeing themselves said that a fix was in the works already in november...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Tue May 14, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

If this what we consider an abberation and isolated case at Boeing somehow became a default practice at Airbus too, then God help us, we will need to travel by sea again until the mess is cleared up! Well, there is the monthly Queen Mary 2 departure from New York to Southampton but I have a hard ti...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Tue May 14, 2019 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

This i probably old news, but the claim that MCAS relied on only one AoA sensor was a deliberate design choice in order to avoid extra training for pilots, since new two-sensor features would require just that, is horrifying. https://youtu.be/QytfYyHmxtc?t=35m23s And doesn't make any sense, especia...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Mon May 13, 2019 6:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Ok, so say that Boeing does re-brand the Max as Trump suggests.... what will they call it? -800 and -900 are already taken.....the -10 would be ok.... but what about the other 2. 737-MX 8/9/10 Max sounds kinda cheesy anyway. No matter what Boeing calls it...Other than on the airworthiness certifica...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Mon May 13, 2019 1:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Gloss over the events? How does documenting MCAS as being a function of STS gloss over the events? How does a grounding of at least 1/3 of a year gloss over anything? You mean the failure to document MCAS in any meaningful way leading to the failure to advise operators and pilots of its existence? ...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun May 12, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

WSJ raises the issue that wary passengers might avoid the plane for some time after the grounding is lifted. Personally, I would not wanna get onboard a MAX until at least one year of crash-free operation has passed. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-max-could-fly-again-soon-will-passengers-get-on-bo...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sat May 11, 2019 8:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

https://youtu.be/QytfYyHmxtc?t=35m23s
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This i probably old news, but the claim that MCAS relied on only one AoA sensor was a deliberate design choice in order to avoid extra training for pilots, since new two-sensor features would require just that, is horrifying.

https://youtu.be/QytfYyHmxtc?t=35m23s

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by 14ccKemiskt
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019
Replies: 3768
Views: 385614

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Unless Boeing admits MCAS was faulty, the world's aviation authorities should not unground it. Like they say, two can play at that game. This! Who is Boeing thinking that they are impressing with their handling of this situation? The pilots, which they silently have taken safety warnings away from ...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 718555

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Just saw on Bloomberg that Australia grounds the max too. Could the fact that more and more national aviation authorities ground the 737 max despite that the FAA does not grow into a trust issue of the FAA? Or is it, rather, a piece of evidence that a trust issue already exists? And might the fact ...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716345

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

My opinion is that unless any obvious evidence shows up within a week or two that points AGAINST that the cause of these crashes are related and/or has to do with faulty design of the 737 MAX, then they should be grounded until such evidence shoes up and/or Boeing has implemented a fix. Again, I am ...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716345

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

The accidents are so eerily similar that I for sure won't wait for months and months for a report that MIGHT say that the accidents are unrelated to the design of the MAX. I'm not flying on the MAX until I have seen proof that they ARE unrelated.

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 716345

Re: Should airline regulators consider grounding B737 MAX series

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_rudder_issues

Given what we now know caused these accidents, should the 737 have been grounded after US427 happened?
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Remember the rudder issues of UA585 and US427?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_rudder_issues

Given what we now know caused these accidents, should the 737 have been grounded after US427 happened?

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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing may consider restarting 767 pax model production
Replies: 839
Views: 166922

Re: Boeing may consider restarting 767 pax model production

Any up-date will make the frames more expensive, which kind of makes the idea even more difficult. The price must be so low, that you will have no problems to write them off by 2030. Anybody betting on a longer usage period is very brave, or very stupid if fuel becomes expensive gain. The funny thi...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing MOM Update
Replies: 208
Views: 25099

RE: Boeing MOM Update

On a sidenote, why would it be so hard to put a longer landinggear on the 737? On the face of it, it seems like one of thr easiest things to develop for an airplane.

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham: Boeing Has Lost Neo/MAX Battle Pt 2.
Replies: 202
Views: 25615

RE: Leeham: Boeing Has Lost Neo/MAX Battle Pt 2.

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/StTim" class="quote" target="_blank">StTim</a> (<a href="#134" class="quote">Reply 134</a>):<br/><i> 787 cash positive - frames probably - proga...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus 10,000th Delivery
Replies: 25
Views: 9936

RE: Airbus 10,000th Delivery

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/MEA-707" class="quote" target="_blank">MEA-707</a> (<a href="#3" class="quote">Reply 3</a>):<br/><i>Say if the random #10.000 would be a tax eva...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus 10,000th Delivery
Replies: 25
Views: 9936

Airbus 10,000th Delivery

With delivery count currently at 9,600 something, it should be safe to assume that Airbus delivery #10,000 will be taking place during the year. Do we have any information on this, when, what customer or what model that delivery "10K" will be? There will of course be some marketing hoopla around thi...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Tue Apr 05, 2016 2:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Leeham: Boeing Has Lost Neo/MAX Battle Pt 2.
Replies: 202
Views: 25615

RE: Leeham: Boeing Has Lost Neo/MAX Battle Pt 2.

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Amiga500" class="quote" target="_blank">Amiga500</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i>I think Boeing have to stop looking at a p...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Mayday: Asiana Airlines Flight 214
Replies: 20
Views: 21728

RE: New Mayday: Asiana Airlines Flight 214

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/coolian2" class="quote" target="_blank">coolian2</a> (<a href="#15" class="quote">Reply 15</a>):<br/><i>Hell I didn't notice </i></font></td></t...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350 Stretch May Be Launched At Farnborough - Pt 3
Replies: 204
Views: 23566

RE: A350 Stretch May Be Launched At Farnborough - Pt 3

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/JerseyFlyer" class="quote" target="_blank">JerseyFlyer</a> (<a href="#59" class="quote">Reply 59</a>):<br/><i> Things seem to have gone very qui...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sonic Cruiser Today
Replies: 79
Views: 15550

RE: Sonic Cruiser Today

My take on the reasons behind the Sonic cruiser and later the all new 787 came from a stress from Boeing on taking back initiative after being outprestiged by the A380. The superjumbo programme and the fact that the 747 was to be pushed into second place cannot be underestimated.

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Have The -8/-800s Lived Up To Their Superstitions?
Replies: 21
Views: 7619

RE: Have The -8/-800s Lived Up To Their Superstitions?

The lucky 8s are probably an afterthought and a marketing ploy. The real reason behind the number lies elsewhere. The 8 in A380 most probably really comes from the similarity with its cross section. The 8 in 737 series came from that they had reached -500 and with the <acronym title="Lauda Air (Aust...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: “Shades” Livery Now Also On New A330neo
Replies: 38
Views: 16516

RE: “Shades” Livery Now Also On New A330neo

I love the A350 shades and I guess it is a good move to put them on the A330neo as well.

This will mean that half of Airbus' models wil have shades. Why not put them on the A320neos as well and make tem an Airbus hallmark. Then when the A380neo eventually comes around, it can get it too.

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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed
Replies: 70
Views: 32647

RE: First Boeing 737 MAX Fuselage Completed

A 60s aircraft for the 2010s? Not sure if it is going to survive very long. But for now, it will do.

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by 14ccKemiskt
Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS - Part 8
Replies: 275
Views: 60567

RE: Germanwings A320 Crashed Enroute BCN-DUS - Part 8

Brings a lot of attension to checking mental health of pilots AND questioning the cockpit security doors.

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by 14ccKemiskt
Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK Look At Placing An Order For Up To 200 A380NEO
Replies: 240
Views: 35857

RE: EK Look At Placing An Order For Up To 200 A380NEO

Could the imminent <acronym title="Emirates (United Arab Emirates)">EK</acronym> order of A350 or 787 affect the A380neo decision? Could <acronym title="Air Tanzania">TC</acronym> say that if Airbus provides him with the A380neo, then he'll also buy a big amount of A350s - otherwise he'll go with th...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nice Article On The Restoration Of Boeing 747 No.1
Replies: 9
Views: 7675

RE: Nice Article On The Restoration Of Boeing 747 No.1

Hmm. "Biggest museum restoration project ever". I doubt that. For example, restoration of war galleon Vasa from 1628 must have been a lot bigger.

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by 14ccKemiskt
Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Announces A330 Beluga
Replies: 79
Views: 34207

RE: Airbus Announces A330 Beluga

Why do they claim that the Beluga does something unique? The Dreamlifter does the same thing...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways A350 Fully Painted
Replies: 92
Views: 32488

RE: Qatar Airways A350 Fully Painted

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/thunderboltdrgn" class="quote" target="_blank">thunderboltdrgn</a> (<a href="#77" class="quote">Reply 77</a>):<br/><i>. I gave you the link to w...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways A350 Fully Painted
Replies: 92
Views: 32488

RE: Qatar Airways A350 Fully Painted

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/thunderboltdrgn" class="quote" target="_blank">thunderboltdrgn</a> (<a href="#64" class="quote">Reply 64</a>):<br/><i>As far as I know, it's a c...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways A350 Fully Painted
Replies: 92
Views: 32488

RE: Qatar Airways A350 Fully Painted

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/thunderboltdrgn" class="quote" target="_blank">thunderboltdrgn</a> (<a href="#59" class="quote">Reply 59</a>):<br/><i>They are optional. </i></f...

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by 14ccKemiskt
Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:32 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: First Flight On BA's New 787 = Awful
Replies: 38
Views: 10567

RE: First Flight On BA's New 787 = Awful

Sounds horrible.

Which other airlines has the same type of seats on the 787?

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