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by BoeingGuy
Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL making media noise about purchasing 737MAX, again.
Replies: 83
Views: 9628

Re: DL making media noise about purchasing 737MAX, again.

Are looking to avoid the MAX because of its history or because of the layout some airline have gone with? The former. I don't trust it, wouldn't feel safe on it, and will not be riding one any time soon. I don't care what Boeing/FAA claim to have done; the only thing that'd make me comfortable with...

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by BoeingGuy
Mon Sep 20, 2021 7:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw
Replies: 120
Views: 15722

Re: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw

This always seemed like such a dead end argument for Boeing. They’re essentially saying that they’ve built their planes such that you need exceptionally well trained pilots to avoid a crash. Ok? Airbus doesn’t tho. And this is after they spent extraordinary efforts to avoid additional training for ...

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by BoeingGuy
Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

Scheduled updated through February 16, 2022. PDX/SAN-PAE are back, and PDX-TUS is now on the 737. Lots of cuts and suspensions all around, though. When does AS resume PAE-SAN? I was booked on 12/27 and 1/4 and the flights were cancelled. I don’t seem it available now either. You're not going to bel...

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by BoeingGuy
Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

AC4500 wrote:
Scheduled updated through February 16, 2022.

PDX/SAN-PAE are back, and PDX-TUS is now on the 737.

Lots of cuts and suspensions all around, though.


When does AS resume PAE-SAN? I was booked on 12/27 and 1/4 and the flights were cancelled. I don’t seem it available now either.

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by BoeingGuy
Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw
Replies: 120
Views: 15722

Re: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw

The first office certainly did not, at least not according to this Aviation Week article where the scenario was re-created in the simulator. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19902068 If you have information otherwise, please provide it. I am still left wondering why Ethiopian Airlines didn't ru...

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by BoeingGuy
Sat Sep 18, 2021 1:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw
Replies: 120
Views: 15722

Re: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flawo

It’s the job of senior management to set but goals. If the goals would compromise safety or other values, it’s the responsibility of those tasked with pursuing the goals to speak up. If there was someone at Boeing that told Forkner to minimize training differences at any cost, all of the investigat...

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by BoeingGuy
Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw
Replies: 120
Views: 15722

Re: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flawo

I’ve talked to Boeing employees who work with Mark Forkner and none are surprised by what’s come to light. While very smart, he played fast and loose, and tended to be very aggressive. Many other people were fired from Boeing, but there are only two that are being prosecuted. I worked with and knew...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw
Replies: 120
Views: 15722

Re: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw

It's another sad element of this story no matter how it gets told. I can think of two main ways the story can be told: 1) Forkner is being made even more the fall guy. He'll be the only one to actually face personal blame for the whole terrible debacle. Other people lost jobs, but they are highly c...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:23 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: former SWA/Boeing pilot and the 737 Max crashes
Replies: 3
Views: 1479

Re: former SWA/Boeing pilot and the 737 Max crashes

Wow! After the 737 MAX crashes, the Boeing 737 test pilot went to Southwest where he recently took a buy out. Now they are looking at federal charges against him. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10000429/Federal-prosecutors-reportedly-charge-former-737-MAX-test-pilot.html https://www.dalla...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw
Replies: 120
Views: 15722

Re: PBS Frontline: Boeing's Fatal Flaw

“Federal prosecutors are preparing to criminally charge a former Boeing pilot who is suspected of misleading regulators about safety issues during the approval process for the troubled 737 MAX, according to a new report.” https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10000429/Federal-prosecutors-reporte...

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by BoeingGuy
Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA invest $200mil in GOL, expand partnership
Replies: 43
Views: 7347

Re: AA invest $200mil in GOL, expand partnership

I wonder it GOL and JetSmart will join oneworld as a result of the partnerships with AA.

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by BoeingGuy
Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Air Service Announcement 09/15
Replies: 26
Views: 3647

Re: San Diego Air Service Announcement 09/15

GripenFan wrote:
PSA is coming back!!!


This is the best news I wish for. It’s been 33 years and I’m still angry about PSA selling out and then getting gutted.

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by BoeingGuy
Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

When AS finally retires the 738 than what?? Will AS ever try for new longer range fleet for transcons.. Well they’ve probably got 20 years until they retire the 7M8… Kind of hard to retire a plane they don't even have on order. All AS max8 orders were converted to max9s. They might convert some of ...

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by BoeingGuy
Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

b777900 wrote:
BoeingGuy wrote:
NameOmitted wrote:
AS will offer fewer seats.


AS will use the 737-800 or 737-8 out of DCA. Just like they used the -800 for many years previously.



When AS finally retires the 738 than what?? Will AS ever try for new longer range fleet for transcons..


737-8

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by BoeingGuy
Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

NameOmitted wrote:
b777900 wrote:
IF DCA Can not handle the MAX 9 OR the 739 because of MTOW and AS retires the 321 and the 738 what will happen to DCA service?

AS will offer fewer seats.


AS will use the 737-800 or 737-8 out of DCA. Just like they used the -800 for many years previously.

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by BoeingGuy
Mon Sep 13, 2021 2:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

I don't if they updated their schedule, but it seems like PAE-SAN is a casualty. Yep. I was booked on PAE-SAN on Dec. 27 and returning on Jan. 4. First AS changed from 2x to 1x. Then canned it all together. This isn’t new. It happened at least two weeks ago. I posted criticism of how AS is handling...

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by BoeingGuy
Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

AS has added the MAX9 to a new route in Dec: SAN-HNL. They've never been able to fly the 739 from SAN to Hawaii (even though they sometimes fly it w/b INTO SAN) due to runway and terrain conditions. Now they can get the increased capacity of the MAX (I assume) departing w/b to the Islands. (I'm hop...

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by BoeingGuy
Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

I had previously mentioned the possibility of AS adding SEA-CLE/BDL/JAX/ORF nonstop service with CLE, BDL, JAX, and ORF being four of the top remaining domestic destinations traveled to from SEA that don't currently have any nonstop service from SEA. While AS does not need to serve CLT on its own m...

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by BoeingGuy
Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

2023 itself shows an increase of 8 mainline aircraft. There is a net increase of 49 mainline aircraft from June 30, 2021 though the end of 2023. That’s a lot. Like others, I wonder where AS will expand sevice. Yea, 2022 will be a massive increase. Will be interesting if AS exercises more options fo...

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by BoeingGuy
Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

Another use for the 321 fleet is getting a full load out of tough transcon airports. Management has stated on earnings calls that 321 can do stuff out of DCA that others planes in their fleet can't so that may be their fate, DCA-West coast. It's pathological to keep a narrowbody type of 10 aircraft...

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by BoeingGuy
Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:18 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What are the red ECAM messages on Airbus planes?
Replies: 17
Views: 2112

Re: What are the red ECAM messages on Airbus planes?

CFR 25.1322 amd 131 specifies that red alerts be for conditions that require immediate awareness and immediate action. EASA has an almost identical regulation. Boeing has long had this philosophy also. On the 777, the possible red warning EICAS messages are (off the top of my head): AUTOPILOT DISC O...

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by BoeingGuy
Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:09 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can all jetliners take off at a climb thrust setting if they are lightly loaded?
Replies: 21
Views: 2459

Re: Can all jetliners take off at a climb thrust setting if they are lightly loaded?

I agree with this statement and have also experienced it; however, convair880mfan, I have not had a situation where thrust increased when selecting CLB from either TOGA or FLX MCT, and in other aircraft I have flown where thrust was manually controlled, I don't ever remember a situation where it wa...

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by BoeingGuy
Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:01 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Innovations created by one airliner manufacturer that were later adopted by another airliner manufacturer?
Replies: 8
Views: 1275

Re: Innovations created by one airliner manufacturer that were later adopted by another airliner manufacturer?

Not really. Manufacturers have a “not invented here” mentality. That’s not correct. The manufacturer I work for has certainly made some big mistakes in the recent past, but in general we do what we think is best for both safety and the business. We don’t say, “gee we aren’t going to incorporate tha...

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by BoeingGuy
Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

AS released a 8k on sept 2, with an updated expected fleet count June 2021 to December 31 2023. Mainline goes from 202 today to 251 or around 24 percent increase. Regional goes from 94 to 111 or around 18 percent increase. https://investor.alaskaair.com/node/31956/html While all of this is subject ...

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by BoeingGuy
Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

AS released a 8k on sept 2, with an updated expected fleet count June 2021 to December 31 2023. Mainline goes from 202 today to 251 or around 24 percent increase. Regional goes from 94 to 111 or around 18 percent increase. https://investor.alaskaair.com/node/31956/html While all of this is subject ...

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by BoeingGuy
Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

AS released a 8k on sept 2, with an updated expected fleet count June 2021 to December 31 2023. Mainline goes from 202 today to 251 or around 24 percent increase. Regional goes from 94 to 111 or around 18 percent increase. https://investor.alaskaair.com/node/31956/html While all of this is subject ...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:18 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: N1 creeping up in climb 737NG
Replies: 9
Views: 1812

Re: N1 creeping up in climb 737NG

I fly the 737NG/MAX and yes as you climb the climb power slowly creeps up and slightly throttle down once you reach cruise level. Climb power is normally not more than 95%. As an example...I took off yesterday on a MAX with 77%N1. During climb it slowly creeps up to normal climb power based on weig...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:51 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Post-Pandemic ANA Future Destinations
Replies: 6
Views: 556

Re: Post-Pandemic ANA Future Destinations

I’d be more concerned with ANA even resuming destinations. For example, will ANA return to SJC?

I could see ANA trying PDX, especially if DL drops PDX-HND permanently as some seem to speculate.

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:53 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What will airlines do when Boeing replaces the 737?
Replies: 36
Views: 7704

Re: Boeing approaching decision on narrowbody design.

This title is incredibly misleading and should be corrected or deleted. It indicates that Boeing is about to make a decision on a narrow body design. That is not correct. There is some PD activity going on, but unless there is something going on that I’m not privy to, they are nowhere near a final ...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:31 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What will airlines do when Boeing replaces the 737?
Replies: 36
Views: 7704

Re: Boeing approaching decision on narrowbody design.

This title is incredibly misleading and should be corrected or deleted. It indicates that Boeing is about to make a decision on a narrow body design. That is not correct. There is some PD activity going on, but unless there is something going on that I’m not privy to, they are nowhere near a final d...

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by BoeingGuy
Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

wedgetail737 wrote:
At this rate, AS will close PAE before next summer. Propeller will go out of business and the terminal will be abandoned and tagged.


What is left from PAE in the near term? LAS, PHX, and TUS?

They just dropped SAN. Not sure about PSP.

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by BoeingGuy
Mon Aug 30, 2021 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

AS is now dropping PAE-SAN in December. I was booked on December 27 and it was just cancelled. I’m sure our return on Jan. 4 will be dropped too. PAE-SAN was 2x during that time until a few weeks ago. Then reduced to 1x. The dropped completely. AS’s handling of PAE is a joke right now. Saying in th...

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by BoeingGuy
Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

AS is now dropping PAE-SAN in December. I was booked on December 27 and it was just cancelled. I’m sure our return on Jan. 4 will be dropped too. PAE-SAN was 2x during that time until a few weeks ago. Then reduced to 1x. The dropped completely. AS’s handling of PAE is a joke right now. Saying in the...

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by BoeingGuy
Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:02 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: MD-90 better at hot and high airports than the B757?
Replies: 9
Views: 1521

Re: MD-90 better at hot and high airports than the B757?

This thread is all a moot point. No MD-90s remain in service. The last MD-90 was withdrawn from service over a year ago.

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by BoeingGuy
Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 881
Views: 131498

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2021

So in Asia DL is the only US3 with wide-body service to MNL (there is UA service to GUM). I still think DL has a chance to make SEA-MNL work. Hell I think DL can make SEA-SIN work too. UA has said that in their Pacific network SIN consistently has the highest yield and pre-COVID was sold out on mos...

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by BoeingGuy
Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA to review Boeing safety
Replies: 5
Views: 2202

Re: FAA to review Boeing safety

The 'safety' engineers need strong protection, and that likely protection group is a strong union. Boeing engineers are in a union. I’m thankful for that. Makes it a bit harder for Boeing leadership to continue to erode benefits while they continue to line their own pockets with money, on our backs...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish attempts take-off on taxiway at KEWR
Replies: 62
Views: 12710

Re: Turkish attempts take-off on taxiway at KEWR

I know the TK flight departs very late from EWR, but man this seems much more egregious when the error is made on the ground vs in the air like Air Canada at SFO. Apparently wasn't a giveaway to the pilots that the runway had blue edge lights and a green centerline. Also, aren't 77Ws equipped with ...

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by BoeingGuy
Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:44 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Two noticeable pitch angles after takeoff in the MD-90?
Replies: 4
Views: 809

Re: Two noticeable pitch angles after takeoff in the MD-90?

It isn't because of tail strike. It is because the flight director should not be used for dynamic maneuvres. If you do that you end up chasing it. Where tail strike comes in is the gradual pitch up, I suppose. You shouldn't just yank it to 15 degrees. Three degrees a second or thereabouts. So it is...

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by BoeingGuy
Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:18 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Surprising aircraft served
Replies: 26
Views: 2169

Re: Surprising aircraft served

Geminijets101 wrote:
Just realized AA operated Fokker 100s….


AA had 75 F-100s, so they weren’t that obscure.

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by BoeingGuy
Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

They'll need the MAX 10 for when they start adding these lie flat seats in FC! ;) I'm surprised there hasn't been more hoopla about that 'rumor' of Gold 75's being invited to give them a spin! Or the 797, which I fully expect AAG to purchase, AS will likely be a launch customer & that may be wh...

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by BoeingGuy
Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 1828
Views: 243983

Re: Alaska Airlines Fleet/Network Thread - 2021

I know that the Delta variant probably stunted the progress of getting back to normal, but I'm hoping AS opens a few more cities for 2022. What cities you thinking of ? I'm thinking the smaller cities for E-175's like TUL, DSM/CID and COS. For 737's, maybe CLE, BDL, JAX and a return to MIA. West of...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Aug 13, 2021 11:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO
Replies: 36
Views: 4256

Re: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO

Yes I mean from SFO specifically, since that's the topic of the post As I mentioned, the previous statement was incorrect. Prior to this announcement, AS was in fact only serving MZT from LAX, not a few different places. AS dropped SEA-MZT several years ago and SFO-MZT even before that. SEA-MZT wen...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO
Replies: 36
Views: 4256

Re: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO

D[i]idn’t AS operate LAX-LTO with 737s some years back as well? [/I] I took this flight in July of 2011. I recall the terminal being open air with a thatched roof. What a great experience. Yep. It was a 734 when I took it. You walked out on the tarmac to load by air stars. The airplane swung out of...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021
Replies: 2047
Views: 386338

Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2021

AA never did BOS-DUB to my knowledge. They did run BOS-SNN/MAN a couple of summers with 757s with the F cabin given to Elites and full fare Y pax. BOS-CDG was run up until a couple of years ago, and I believe one point years ago AA even was running the route year round. That’s my recollection also ...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO
Replies: 36
Views: 4256

Re: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO

ZIH/MZT are a restart technically. Alaska flew these routes years ago. ZIH was always a MD-83 and MZT was mix of MD's and 737s. Nice to see these coming back for sure! Loreto, I actually thought would be tested with 175's first. Do you mean a restart from SFO specifically? AS has been flying to tho...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO
Replies: 36
Views: 4256

Re: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO

10/01 - http://www.departedflights.com/AS103101.html (first I see ZIH & it's the only Mexico city from SFO. Look at the map again. All the other route lines from SFO to Mexico curve to the right. AS flew PHX to SJD and PVR at one time too, but dropped it. A more unusual route was ONT-MEX. They ...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Avianca Launching 23 Brand New Routes
Replies: 35
Views: 6854

Re: Avianca Launching 23 Brand New Routes

It's interesting to see that they did not announce start dates. I wonder when that will come. Also AA as they have also started operating in previously unserved cities like BAQ and ADZ (from December) AA has been flying to BAQ for a long time. They were doing MIA-BAQ long before starting CTG. It’s ...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO
Replies: 36
Views: 4256

Re: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO

10/01 - http://www.departedflights.com/AS103101.html (first I see ZIH & it's the only Mexico city from SFO. Look at the map again. All the other route lines from SFO to Mexico curve to the right. AS flew PHX to SJD and PVR at one time too, but dropped it. A more unusual route was ONT-MEX. They ...

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by BoeingGuy
Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO
Replies: 36
Views: 4256

Re: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO

ZIH/MZT are a restart technically. Alaska flew these routes years ago. ZIH was always a MD-83 and MZT was mix of MD's and 737s. Nice to see these coming back for sure! Loreto, I actually thought would be tested with 175's first. Do you mean a restart from SFO specifically? AS has been flying to tho...

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by BoeingGuy
Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO
Replies: 36
Views: 4256

Re: AS starts seasonal SFO to ZIH, MZT & LTO

ZIH/MZT are a restart technically. Alaska flew these routes years ago. ZIH was always a MD-83 and MZT was mix of MD's and 737s. Nice to see these coming back for sure! Loreto, I actually thought would be tested with 175's first. Didn’t AS operate LAX-LTO with 737s some years back as well? Yes. When...

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