Well per CrankFlyer WN cut a lot of flights for AUG. In regards to LGB AUG losses Half it's flights and completely drops SJC. SJC been one of the most Impacted markets by everyone since it's largely a business destination. I wouldn't be surprised on the split September-January revision/extension com...Jump to post
Medium haul MDW,DAL are definitely possible. Would only be needed if they see o&d to those cities though. Denver offers service to almost all the same cities on the east coast now and geographically is perfect. Frequency to Denver seems like all they need for a connection city to do cross count...Jump to post
With the ongoing battle with WN regardless of the pandemic does anyone think AS might entertain returning to LGB? With the upcoming slot lottery they have the opportunity to gain up to 9 Slots. With 9 slots AS could try something like. 5 SFO, 2 PDX and 2 SEA. Or 4 SFO,2 SEA ,1 PDX, 1 HNL, 1 split O...Jump to post
The state of Hawaii shooting for September 2 to start a mandatory temperature checks before You board all Mainland and international flights to the Islands. In addition all passengers will be required to show medical test records of a negative COVID. Any passengers showing symptoms in transit will r...Jump to post
With the ongoing battle with WN regardless of the pandemic does anyone think AS might entertain returning to LGB? With the upcoming slot lottery they have the opportunity to gain up to 9 Slots. With 9 slots AS could try something like. 5 SFO, 2 PDX and 2 SEA. Or 4 SFO,2 SEA ,1 PDX, 1 HNL, 1 split OG...Jump to post
AS made it clear in an internal employee publication, they have zero interest in LGB. Crap yields. They won’t be looking for any slots. I don’t doubt it but obviously that is based on a market dynamic where B6 is there. Take them away and it’s certainly possible things change. LGB is a much larger ...Jump to post
Well I'm told LGB sent out a open invite to all US domestic and Cargo airlines including those already on the list that they have until End of Business day PST on August 28th to submit a application to participate. Or elect to Pass if already on the Slot lottery allocation list. I'm Told the lottery...Jump to post
Southwest will now extend its schedule on 8/13 (prev 8/27) and go through April 11, 2021 (prev 3/10/21). This is the first time in my recent memory where WN is extending for all of spring break. This extension usually only runs through early March. https://www.southwest.com/air/flight-schedules/ind...Jump to post
Huge close in cuts for WN in August. So strange to see considering WN used to never make changes pre-MAX grounding. It's because during the Max grounding WN was Still making hand over fist record profits regardless of the max problem. The Covid 19 pandemic they are in the same boat as everyone. Wha...Jump to post
From my LGB friend. WN schedule movements at LGB. Dude to covid treads it's scaled back some business markets between August and mid September. Mid September WN moving up PHX and AUS service while temporarily cutting all SJC. In addition for September WN temporary adding back 2 Daily LAS and 2 Daily...Jump to post
With spike in covid 19 cases, restrictions closing down businesses again and the 14 day quarantine. All the airlines are seeing modest April type of cancellations again. I wouldn't be surprised if WN started following suit by canceling a hundred plus flights a day throughout its network. The Hits fo...Jump to post
This sets the stage for the eventual next round of consolidation in the industry. -AA+AS+B6 The question then being, who acquires who? Does AS pull off a HP-style takeover of AA? And B6 is forced to come along for the ride or be left out of the party? They can call it Jet America since AS holds the...Jump to post
Well sounds like WN is cut some capacity in California including LGB for AUG because of the Covid 19 spike has reduced bookings.
Can't wait for this pandemic to be over.
Hawaiian one daily flight to LGB-HNL was on average filled with 70% Orange County passengers. They definitely were filling the Void left by United dropping the SNA-HNL nonstop. Hawaiian was able to fill up every seat to max capacity unlike the 20 seat Cap United was forced to do with the 737. I'm su...Jump to post
How B6 put up with the trailer park there for so long is amazing. Then only to get spit on. Nice new terminal and only a dozen or so daily flights from 1 single carrier would serve them right. They put up with the trailer park because they had virtually no other choice at the time. If they wanted t...Jump to post
With AA scaling down the Eagle flying from LAX along with LAWA putting Terminal 9 on hold.
Maybe AS can take over the Eagles nest to increase E175 flying from LAX.
jfklganyc wrote:All of a sudden everything makes sense:
-Gates at EWR
-More slots at JFK
-Gates at LAX
We can now see the forest through the trees
Hearing Delta has removed it's self from the Waiting list. I'm sure Hawaiian probably not far behind. While WN has been wanting every available opportunity. From what I heard today WN may just want to trade out all 9 supplemental slots for 9 permanent slots. WN Growth opportunity may be capped at 1...Jump to post
Hearing Delta has removed it's self from the Waiting list. I'm sure Hawaiian probably not far behind. While WN has been wanting every available opportunity. From what I heard today WN may just want to trade out all 9 supplemental slots for 9 permanent slots. WN Growth opportunity may be capped at 17...Jump to post
The other thing that is WONDERFUL, is JetBlue is going to hire a bunch of new employees at LAX, and those moving or commuting from LGB to work will most likely be getting a cost of living raise. (; Hope this does not hurt JetBlues carbon off offset credits to horribly. I am sure JetBlue is going to...Jump to post
CobaltScar wrote:What spin did they use when they abandoned EWR?
With the deadline for taking the ExTO and VSP on July 15. I wouldn't expect an announcement until sometime in August until WN runs it's revamped next 2021 January-April flight schedule numbers. I think if the US was on a downward trend with Covid 19 more people would not partake in either program wi...Jump to post
No one will make LGB a cargo hub. The airport does not even have a cargo warehouse, let alone the rest of infrastructure like customs, brokers etc. UPS/FedEx today simply truck in prebuilt ULDs to load on the aircraft. Amazon is spending $200mil building a regional air hub at San Bernardino >> http...Jump to post
LGB hasn't had this many available slots since the arrival of JetBlue. Now with the popularity of buying online Home deliveries I wouldn't be surprised if FedEx and UPS requested additional slot also. UPS has a nice facility between Spring Street and Lakewood BLVD that could easily handle more traff...Jump to post
I would love for Amazon to start some B767 and 777F cargo flights into LGB and see the look on all those NIMBYs faces that didn't want FIS because that would bring in the "international jumbo jets." Amazons international China feed to LGB would require a ANC or HNL CBP stop inbound. But i...Jump to post
The money is in SNA and BUR for domestic travel, they are just space limited. I don't see this though as being any less successful than their existing LGB service. They already were offering these routes from LGB so it isn't as if it is new capacity in the overall LA market. The gate situation will...Jump to post
I wouldn't be shocked at this point to see the State of Hawaii roll plans backwards given the resurgence of infections in California, in particular... Yep with California being one of the Covid hotspots right now, I can't see Hawaii dropping the 14-day quarantine until infections in California are ...Jump to post
My view on The PR spin is we're leaving Long Beach for LAX to grow it's west coast focus city. It's better to spin we're gonna grow our LAX opportunity vs Hey during this pandemic world we are finally cutting our losses and dropping the low yielding LGB altogether. The long game at LAX I see a Mint...Jump to post
My view on The PR spin is we're leaving Long Beach for LAX to grow it's west coast focus city. It's better to spin we're gonna grow our LAX opportunity vs Hey during this pandemic world we are finally cutting our losses and dropping the low yielding LGB altogether. The long game at LAX I see a Mint ...Jump to post
Well another rumor is Amazon Prime air cargo will also be requesting slots at LGB airport.
So reading the complete Slot allocation for LGB. Once a airline returns permanent slots with a official submission End of service. The airport can immediately reallocate the slots to all airlines or airline on the list. This will give awards airlines time to market and sale pending service. WN could...Jump to post
Dave has publicly stated that with sudden departure of JetBlue from LGB Breeze will most likely look into taking part in the Reallocation lottery for the 17 slots. Sounds like Breeze isn't just gonna start in the Midwest now. But reading how the process LGB slot process works the most slots they wil...Jump to post
Update: http://www.longbeach.gov/press-releases/long-beach-airport-prepares-to-allocate-flight-slots-from-waiting-list/ LGB acknowledges the 17 slots being released by B6 and will soon make the lottery available. Current waitlist members are Delta, Hawaiian and Southwest. Keep in mind that this poo...Jump to post
When does B6 have to legally surrender the slots? Can't they technically hold onto them until the last possible moment? From what I have heard JetBlue officially notified the Airport this time of the end of service on the Day of the Announcement. I believe officials rental leases end on October 31 ...Jump to post
HA is restarting LGB mid August with regular 1x daily service to HNL. LGB is a secondary airport and HAL being an airline that flies mostly to primary airports had other priorities. LAX will do for now until mid August. No they are most certainly not coming back to LGB in mid-August... Is HA return...Jump to post
I know everyone is for Breeze possibly coming into the airport to fill the JetBlue void in October. Unfortunately Breeze is Months if not a year away from actual start up. They will still only be a airline on paper. When LGB starts the reallocation of slots hopefully this year . Nobody is going to s...Jump to post
LGB Airlines Gate new assignments in October. Hawaiian will use gates 2-3 Delta gates 4-5 American gate 6 Southwest gates 1, 7-10 These gate assignments don't really make much sense to me. Sure it's not that big an airport but it seems like it would make more sense to keep things closer together. I...Jump to post
It's already Rumored that WN will use some temporary slots vacated by JetBlue to increase LGB service until they are awarded slots more permanent slots. Mid September it will extend it's 1 temporary Sunday-Friday afternoon LGB-LAS flight until Oct 7th. On Oct 8 WN will reinstate 3 daily LGB-LAS and ...Jump to post