Not entirely surprising, given the A330/A350 fleet efficiencies compared to the A346. Sorry to see them go. Flew in them twice on two different trips, MAD-JFK and JFK to MAD, both in Business Class. There is something unique about experiencing takeoff on the A340-600 in the front of the plane. Not ...Jump to post
Early 1970's BEA airtours flew comets that prob would have the legs for Tenerife - then they added 707's. . Don't think BA's BAC 1'11 500 had the legs, although i'm sure Laker did it with their 300's. British Airours added Tristars and 747 during the 1980's. The 747 was mainly for long haul but may...Jump to post
Hi, I'm making a recollection of all the aircraft that came to Tenerife (my native land), in the 70's and I was curious about the British Airways and British Airtours aircraft here. In particular, being a kid (I was born in 1966) I remember having seen: - B.Airways livery (maybe Airtours flights, th...Jump to post
I think the NMA has an even better case going forward. If airlines find it harder to fill a 789 and the 788, 321LR/XLR aren't as cost efficient, a 200-seater TATL/TPAC hauler starts looking fantastic. Can replace lots of 767s, 330s and even some 77As on routes with capacity downgrades. Now, whether...Jump to post
Will this happen or will the NMA be postponed till the economic climate will turn again? I have a feeling that the current and especially the near future will be very harsh for airlines, think post 9-11 combined with Sars and the downturn of 2008. I think the NMA has an even better case going forwa...Jump to post
A little off-topic, but,some time ago I found a photo of PH-BUF taking off from runway 01/L, and I was wondering which one it was, as I can't find it on the current maps. Is it a renamed one?
Was that the main one used for big jets in the 70s?
And Q the line of people saying this has been discussed on here ad nauseam... ... because it has. “Too heavy.” Next! Depending on how much weight you remove from it. The string "787" doesn't mean heavy aircraft per se. If it can be enough lighter than a 788, there are a lot of routes that...Jump to post
That's my intuition but also something I wanted to ask. Is that true? Do those big new aircraft, (especially a380 and 748) benefit from design and/or size to behave better in crosswinds? Think about it. A 20kt gust has less effect on a 600;000 plane than a 120;000 plane. It a matter of weight ratio...Jump to post
rbavfan wrote:From what I hear landing in these winds is easier on the larger frames than on 737/A320 series.
I feel like the article and the explanations are all tossing out one of the constants required to get lift. Thrust. So how do sailplanes fly? They glide, and they don't get to the beginning of their "flight" without a massive input of power/Thrust to get them to their starting point. So y...Jump to post
A nice illustration from Boeing about the range of the 789 and 777X-brothers from HAN-Bamboo's hub. Looks like Boeing is very serious at this deal. http://cafefcdn.com/thumb_w/640/2020/2/8/anh-4-2-15811179940741693131385.jpg Let's wait for that will FLC (QH's parent group) make the deal happen in S...Jump to post
D L X wrote:Everyone talking about the 737 fuselage being weak seems to forget that Aloha jet that didn’t crash when it lost a third of its roof.
So they will start now a NSA="new cleansheet NB", to fight basically the A321neo & XLR market, which is already getting a lot of orders for Airbus, while the NSA will arrive a bunch of years later, (so the XLR will still likely get a lot of more orders since now, from those who are no...Jump to post
GEnX engine is more than 10 years old. By the time a GEnX powered 767 would enter service, the technology would be some 20 years old. Why would Boeing put old engine technology on an old aircraft? For the old aircraft it would still be new(er) technology. Is there a new tech engine currently that w...Jump to post
I believe the revised NMA will be a narrowbody and it will be designed with the operating weights and native fuel capacities necessary to handle missions out to ~5000nm (design range). So they will start now a NSA="new cleansheet NB", to fight basically the A321neo & XLR market, which...Jump to post
BA should have refurbed their old [but fully paid] RR-767s and have them move up the road to MAN, for a lower-cost, lower-yield operation built around northern-UK O&D. They could have easily done JFK, BOS, YYZ, plus a ton of Florida, Caribbean and Las Vegas and maybe say a couple of Indian town...Jump to post
Before replying to my post, you should read it. I just claimed that PMI (which roughly has the same number of PAX than MAN) has not carriers like TAP or Turkish that pretty much fly everywhere in Europe. So what was the point of comparing MAN to PMI if by your own admission above they serve very di...Jump to post
Looked at ba finances vs that of vs. ba has plenty of resources to wack the yields of a competitor to stop them from gaining traction. It did the same against dy. Why not against vs getting out of line. Plenty of resources such as a no spare widebody aircraft for the foreseeable future... They are ...Jump to post
There is some merit to the story Imo. VS is growing at MAN, and not just in the 'pure leisure' that they had run in the past. BA may be feeling some degree of pinch from this, of those they previously used the shuttles or travelled over land to LHR. Then there is Aer Lingus to which MAN is a huge c...Jump to post
Hi all: Been following with interest the recent arrival to British fleet of the 350-1000 (LAST year) and the 787-10 (inminent). But looking at the layout comparative, I have found that the 787-10 will have: Eight first class seatsatL 48 business class seats 35 premium economy seats 165 economy seat...Jump to post
I thought only the first few A350s are the high density no F class, and the majority will have F. So you’re not using the baseline configuration for the A350, just the delivery configuration of the first few frames. :checkmark: It is too simple to assume that all A350-1000 at BA will be equipped th...Jump to post
Think B78K as a replacement for B777-200 and A35K as a replacement as B777-300ER and B744. 2 different market and capacity. Yes, I understand that and that sounds logical. Only that in general those are more passengers capable in general while being smaller. Is it possible that other 787-10 come wi...Jump to post
The original poster answered its own question, BA will have the data which translates to these aircraft types being the right sized aircraft for the missions they are put on. Some people also question SQ for having both the 787-10 and A359 in their fleet? Why questions these airlines? A388 So you a...Jump to post
OK, that really makes more sense. Anyway, I wonder how some people can consider Business in those aircraft is not good enough. What can be the price difference (%) between First and Business?.
And the other thing; are there any other company buying/having both 350-1000 and 787-10?
Hi all: Been following with interest the recent arrival to British fleet of the 350-1000 (LAST year) and the 787-10 (inminent). But looking at the layout comparative, I have found that the 787-10 will have: Eight first class seats 48 business class seats 35 premium economy seats 165 economy seats A ...Jump to post
So which is the longest current route for the 787-10?Jump to post
Man, this thread is classic A.net. Armchair CEOs wondering (for the umpteenth time in one year) why a route who stands no chance of commercial success does not exist, rampant anti-U.S. xenophobia, someone claiming island X is ideally suited to be a mega-hub between Y and Z. All this is missing is a...Jump to post
I understand that FSA will complete the 737MAX NOT replace the 737 MAX beacause the FSA will be BIGGER! (180-220 seater) against 737MAX - 8 (160 seats) OK. But now they are thinking of something to compete in a niche which is already filled by the A321 XLR, instead of filling an empty one. (The NMA...Jump to post
ThalesCoelho wrote:What the world really need is a real A300neo, a short to medium haul wide-body.
Of all the choices a 737-800? Really? Hahahaha to each their own. Well, seems as if size matters after all. I guess she will leave her lover once the 737-1000 is available... Would be surprised if she fell in love with such an aircraft: 2594094 If size did matter, she would be platonically in love ...Jump to post
MEET THE WOMAN HAS BEEN IN LOVE WITH BOEING PLANE FOR FIVE YEARS A woman says she’s been in a five year relationship with the love of her life - a passenger jet she calls 'darling'. Michele Köbke, 30, from Berlin, Germany considers herself in a relationship with the Boeing 737-800. Michele says she...Jump to post
Unless we are talking about 767-200MAX and 767-300MAX. They would fill the gap in terms of cabin area however they would most likely have a range of 8000nm and 7000nm respectively. Like I know we have a surge in point to point routes but is there demand? Airlines might actually be desperate to open...Jump to post
It would still have the M0.8 767 wing, but with winglets, that part is 6% better. And it is light enough as is. They could even mate the 763A fuselage with the 764 wing and landing gear, but I would bet on a 764 shrink. How would this aircraft have the 763 fuselage or a 764 shrink with the 764 wing...Jump to post
Two thoughts 1) some sort of cozy suite arrangement 8 abreast in Y 2) staggered seating 3-2-3 in Y with traditional 2-3-2 for the upgraded coach cabin. I always thought you can gain a lot of efficiency by getting 8ab in a 767 external width, but I wonder if it can be achievable with acceptable comf...Jump to post
Why would BA return to MAN for (those "somewhat premium") markets like MAN-JFK, MAN-BOS, MAN-ORD, MAN-MIA, MAN-DFW (AA hubs) when it could get AA to fly those routes instead of BA? Or why would British Airways think british citizens would fly American Airlines some of those routes if they...Jump to post
Boeing I think I should put into production the PAX version of the Boeing 767, I think it is cheaper to carry out the project of a new plane and have the three versions -200ER, -300ER, -400ER with new ones obviously better as better fuel efficiency, better winglets, among others it would be more fe...Jump to post
I didn't expect so much and so good information, thank you. With Cunnard post I understand MAN is well served, but I think airlines opportunities don't only lay on bad served markets. There's even a recent thread of BAW "studying" the bussiness case of flying DUB from LGW, while at the sam...Jump to post
I remember in the early 2000s BA flew MAN-JFK 1 daily with 767s. Yes, and now VIR flies there and other USA cities with 744, 789 and 330. It doesn't seem to bother them being Manchester a preserve of the holidaymakers, In the same way it doesn't bother them that LHR and LGW are a stronghold for BAW...Jump to post
Hi all: As an aviation enthusiast, I've been lately interested in BAW fleet, in particular why they are having/getting nearly all the range of new widebodies. In particular, the whole 787 series (they are getting the 78X next year), the 777 (they purchased the 779-X), and they also recently got the ...Jump to post
Remind me again, which plane would be used on those routes if there is no 797? If there is no 797 they would most probably buy 787's, or maybe A321XLR, but you shoudn't leave empty market gaps in the belief of you have the best non-optimal solution, because you are feeding the competence. Right now...Jump to post
jupiter2 wrote:Chrisba320 wrote:Well done to the pilots for putting this bird down safely with no casualties on board. I’m sure the A321’s advanced systems also played a major part in this not ending in disaster.
Is that what lucks called now ?
I think the DC-10 image was more damaged back in those days than today's MAX damage, in several ways. - First because, like someone said, the DC-10 was a class on it's own, while the MAX is a subtype of a very widespread model which is also quite difficult for the general public to distinguish one f...Jump to post