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by FYODOR
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:26 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Anyone ever flown rare types?
Replies: 127
Views: 8456

Re: Anyone ever flown rare types?

[/photoid]It depends indeed what do we understand under the term rare ;)

Of that which is not much produced I'd point: Be-200, Il-114. Be-103, Ka-29, Mi-26, An-22













As about old staff: Po-2, Il-18, C-47, DH-82.

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by FYODOR
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:36 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 100 types reached :)
Replies: 40
Views: 5437

Re: 100 types reached :)

classicjets wrote:
I have 186 without breaking into sub-subtypes.


Very nice collection :)

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by FYODOR
Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:47 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 100 types reached :)
Replies: 40
Views: 5437

Re: 100 types reached :)

I have to ask a question though. Are TU-154B and TU-154M, or BAe-146-200 and RJ-85 really separate types? I generally go on major structural difference, excluding engines (and winglets!). So for example, I would combine those examples above, and aircraft like DC-10-30 and -40 as single type. Otherw...

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by FYODOR
Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:29 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: 100 types reached :)
Replies: 40
Views: 5437

100 types reached :)

Hi folks, Hope it is relevant forum. Just to share my small jubilee - types I've used to fly have rized up to 100 ;) Аn-2, -24, -28, -74, -148 Be-103, -200 Il-18, -62M, -78, -86, -96, -114 Mi-8T, -8AMT, -26 Po-2 SM-92 SSJ-100 Tu-134A, -134B, -134UBL, -154B, -154M, -204 Yak-18T, -40, -42, -52 A-310, ...

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by FYODOR
Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:58 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 379016

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Front page contains 4 (!) links to Top photos of all time. Might could be less. ;)

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by FYODOR
Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:18 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 379016

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Sorry if it has been discussed but one matter about site design. The new statistic information now is presented like 76,4K of 38,3M views. It might be good for graphic things, for general presentations. It is very modern feature but rather unuseful and inconvinient if we talk about tables and rating...

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by FYODOR
Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:59 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 379016

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

JohnKrist wrote:
Was like that before the upgrade as well and is usually due to indexing taking time.

This time it was for more than an hour. I would not disturb overvwise.

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by FYODOR
Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:06 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 379016

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

https://www.airliners.net/search?user=15 ... lay=detail
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To add. I can see the picture in 'My Photos' page but it is not exists in my public list: https://www.airliners.net/search?user=15 ... lay=detail

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by FYODOR
Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:09 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 379016

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Link http://www.airliners.net/photo/Finland- ... is/3911197 shows following result: Oops! An Error Occurred The server returned a "404 Not Found". Something is broken. Please let us know what you were doing when this error occurred. We will fix it as soon as possible. Sorry for any inconve...

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by FYODOR
Fri Jul 01, 2016 2:04 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 379016

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Search engine is limited. Only photos uploaded for the last year can be found. No option 'All time' to choose.

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by FYODOR
Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:17 am
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 379016

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

https://www.airliners.net/index/aircraft-types - aircraft types statistic shows numbr of 'Versions' (can't say what does it mean) instead of 'Photos'.
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https://www.airliners.net/index/aircraft-types - aircraft types statistic shows numbr of 'Versions' (can't say what does it mean) instead of 'Photos'.

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by FYODOR
Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:46 pm
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 379016

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

Hi folks, Usually I'm very sceptical on any changes of what is working well. But I have to say there are lot of things I enjoy with the new site. First experience I'd call more positive than negative. Bags are sad but I hope it is temporary problem. If navigation will be improved a bit it will be st...

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by FYODOR
Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:30 am
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion
Replies: 2550
Views: 379016

Re: Airliners.net Site Upgrade Announcement & Discussion

There are some obvious positive changes, however some problems I see as well: - the only list of photo with view conter is 24hr photos - all the rest are just pictures; lost of ability to watch detailed view statistics of photos in the table is sad. Even at the list of accepted photos in Photogs cor...

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by FYODOR
Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MC-21 Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 616
Views: 178646

RE: MC-21 To Roll Out On June 8

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/mfranjic" class="quote" target="_blank">mfranjic</a> (<a href="#83" class="quote">Reply 83</a>):<br/><i>You won´t mind, FYODOR, if I save them t...

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by FYODOR
Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MC-21 Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 616
Views: 178646

RE: MC-21 To Roll Out On June 8

If anybdy interested - I've made a full story of the event: http://fyodor-photo.livejournal.com/48701.html

Text is in Russian but photos are the main subject.

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by FYODOR
Thu Jun 09, 2016 10:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MC-21 Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 616
Views: 178646

RE: MC-21 To Roll Out On June 8

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/AirbusA6" class="quote" target="_blank">AirbusA6</a> (<a href="#57" class="quote">Reply 57</a>):<br/><i>For that matter, why brand it under the ...

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by FYODOR
Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MC-21 Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 616
Views: 178646

RE: MC-21 To Roll Out On June 8

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/N14AZ" class="quote" target="_blank">N14AZ</a> (<a href="#27" class="quote">Reply 27</a>):<br/><i>The nose reminds me of the Vickers Vanguard</i...

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by FYODOR
Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MC-21 Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 616
Views: 178646

RE: MC-21 To Roll Out On June 8

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/pylon101" class="quote" target="_blank">pylon101</a> (<a href="#39" class="quote">Reply 39</a>):<br/><i>All that was possible due to TSAGI world...

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by FYODOR
Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MC-21 Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 616
Views: 178646

RE: MC-21 To Roll Out On June 8

One more: <br/><center><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva"><a href="/photo/Irkut-MS-21-300/2833094/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/photo/Irkut-MS-21-300/2833094/M/" target="_blank">View Medium<br/><img src="/aviation-photos/small/4/9/0/2833094.jpg" alt="Click ...

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by FYODOR
Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MC-21 Development and Testing Thread
Replies: 616
Views: 178646

RE: MC-21 To Roll Out On June 8

Thats it  <img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/graphics/smilies/smile.gif" width="15" height="15" border="0"/><br/><center><font color="#EEEEEE" size="1" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva"><a href="/photo/Irkut-MS-21-300/2833084/L/" target="_blank">View Large</a> <a href="/photo/...

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by FYODOR
Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Superjet-100 - 5 Years In Action
Replies: 15
Views: 13067

RE: Superjet-100 - 5 Years In Action

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Ty134A" class="quote" target="_blank">Ty134A</a> (<a href="#13" class="quote">Reply 13</a>):<br/><i><acronym title="Tunisair (Tunisia)">TU</acro...

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by FYODOR
Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Superjet-100 - 5 Years In Action
Replies: 15
Views: 13067

RE: Superjet-100 - 5 Years In Action

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/321neo" class="quote" target="_blank">321neo</a> (<a href="#7" class="quote">Reply 7</a>):<br/><i>Does the <acronym title="Lacsa (Costa Rica)">L...

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by FYODOR
Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Superjet-100 - 5 Years In Action
Replies: 15
Views: 13067

RE: Superjet-100 - 5 Years In Action

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/321neo" class="quote" target="_blank">321neo</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i><acronym title="CityJet (Ireland)">WX</acronym...

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by FYODOR
Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Superjet-100 - 5 Years In Action
Replies: 15
Views: 13067

Superjet-100 - 5 Years In Action

April 21 there were 5 years since <acronym title="Sandnessjoen - Stokka (SSJ / ENST), Norway">SSJ</acronym>-100 had started her commercial operations. Just few photos and facts from <acronym title="Sandnessjoen - Stokka (SSJ / ENST), Norway">SSJ</acronym>-100 history: First prototypes - 97001 and 97...

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by FYODOR
Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:16 pm
Forum: Photography Feedback
Topic: Need Help With Blurry
Replies: 6
Views: 1025

RE: Need Help With Blurry

Ok, thanks!

Fyodor

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by FYODOR
Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:44 pm
Forum: Photography Feedback
Topic: Need Help With Blurry
Replies: 6
Views: 1025

RE: Need Help With Blurry

Thanks, but still certain misunderstanding is. There is original part of front half of 2): <a href="http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/fyodor_photo/45977679/672449/672449_original.jpg" target="_blank"/><a href="http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/fyodor_photo/45977679/672449/672449_original.jpg" target="_bla...

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by FYODOR
Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:28 pm
Forum: Photography Feedback
Topic: Need Help With Blurry
Replies: 6
Views: 1025

Need Help With Blurry

Hi folks, Blurry rejection now is my most common (about half of cases) so I'd like to assist with it: <a href="http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20160421_x1460583726.1335uubw-above-tu95-94124.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...3726.1335uubw-above-tu95-94124.j...

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by FYODOR
Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:40 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.
Replies: 13
Views: 5006

RE: US Citizen Arrested At Chkalovsky, Russia.

It was always not easy to make photography aroud military airfields in Russia (like in many other countries btw) but last years were more or less flex for photographers. This certain case had happened right after another one: <a href="http://tass.ru/en/world/862392" target="_blank">http://tass.ru/en...

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by FYODOR
Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:18 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Over Saint-Petersburg By Night. Vol2. Winter.
Replies: 4
Views: 2932

RE: Over Saint-Petersburg By Night. Vol2. Winter.

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/WearyDrover" class="quote" target="_blank">WearyDrover</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i>St Petersburg is sure one of them.</...

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by FYODOR
Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:16 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Over Saint-Petersburg By Night
Replies: 13
Views: 6062

RE: Over Saint-Petersburg By Night

Thanks guys for kind words! <table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/WearyDrover" class="quote" target="_blank">WearyDrover</a> (<a href="#10" class="quote">Reply 10</a>):<br/><i>Was th...

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by FYODOR
Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:55 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Tupolev 154 In Russian’s Mild Winter VKO-SVX 4G409
Replies: 23
Views: 18268

RE: Tupolev 154 In Russian’s Mild Winter VKO-SVX 4G409

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/eielef" class="quote" target="_blank">eielef</a> (<a href="#6" class="quote">Reply 6</a>):<br/><i>Fyodor, I'm planning Pskovavia on the <acronym...

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by FYODOR
Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:10 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Tupolev 154 In Russian’s Mild Winter VKO-SVX 4G409
Replies: 23
Views: 18268

RE: Tupolev 154 In Russian’s Mild Winter VKO-SVX 4G409

I know some locals who used this opportunity as well.  <img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/graphics/smilies/smile.gif" width="15" height="15" border="0"/> With An-24 I'd recommend you Pskovavia from <acronym title="Saint Petersburg (Leningrad) - Pulkovo (LED / ULLI), Russia">...

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by FYODOR
Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:36 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your Firsts!
Replies: 55
Views: 5966

RE: Your Firsts!

1st flight ... <acronym title="Saint Petersburg (Leningrad) - Pulkovo (LED / ULLI), Russia">LED</acronym>-<acronym title="Sochi (AER / URSS), Russia">AER</acronym> 1st airline ... Aeroflot 1st type ... Tu-154 1st single ... An-2 1st twin ... Tu-134 1st trijet ... Tu-154 1st quad ... Il-86 1st turbop...

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by FYODOR
Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:48 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Over Saint-Petersburg By Night. Vol2. Winter.
Replies: 4
Views: 2932

Over Saint-Petersburg By Night. Vol2. Winter.

Hi folks, To continue previous topic <i><a href="/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/271295" target="_blank">Over Saint-Petersburg By Night</a></i> <font size="1">(by <a href="/profile/FYODOR" class="quote" target="_blank">FYODOR</a> Feb 10 2016 in Trip Reports)</font> just some more staff from ...

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by FYODOR
Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:24 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your Top 25 Airports By Flights In/out
Replies: 38
Views: 4826

RE: Your Top 25 Airports By Flights In/out

1 <acronym title="Saint Petersburg (Leningrad) - Pulkovo (LED / ULLI), Russia">LED</acronym> 730 2 <acronym title="Moscow - Sheremetyevo (SVO / UUEE), Russia">SVO</acronym> 599 3 <acronym title="Moscow - Domodedovo (DME / UUDD), Russia">DME</acronym> 97 4 <acronym title="Moscow - Vnukovo (VKO / UUWW...

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by FYODOR
Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:17 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Over Saint-Petersburg By Night
Replies: 13
Views: 6062

RE: Over Saint-Petersburg By Night

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Adipasquale" class="quote" target="_blank">Adipasquale</a> (<a href="#3" class="quote">Reply 3</a>):<br/><i>A bit different from most TRs on her...

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by FYODOR
Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:01 pm
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Over Saint-Petersburg By Night
Replies: 13
Views: 6062

Over Saint-Petersburg By Night

Hi folks, My first try to write at this forum. Brief report about aerial trip over St.Petersburg by White Nights. Saint-Petersburg is the third largest European city, the world largest city on the north of the 56th parallel and the former capital of Russian Empire. It is also one of the most beautif...

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by FYODOR
Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:10 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Design Flaw Uncovered With The AN-178 Transport?
Replies: 10
Views: 11562

RE: Design Flaw Uncovered With The AN-178 Transport?

The article aready has the response from Antonov which does not confirm existing claims. Indeed it is a bit difficult to know the real truth about current status of the project from Russian or Ukrainian media. However to talk about the future of the project it is important to look at it from the mar...

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by FYODOR
Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:43 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Happy New Year!
Replies: 3
Views: 4671

Happy New Year!

Hi folks! Happy New Year, more nice photos and enjoy your time in the great wonder whose name is Aviation! <a href="http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/fyodor_photo/45977679/639095/639095_original.jpg" target="_blank"/><a href="http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/fyodor_photo/45977679/639095/639095_original.j...

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by FYODOR
Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:46 am
Forum: Photography Feedback
Topic: Question On Leveling
Replies: 2
Views: 905

RE: Question On Leveling

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/clickhappy" class="quote" target="_blank">clickhappy</a> (<a href="#1" class="quote">Reply 1</a>):<br/><i>Rotate it .75 CCW and it should be fin...

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by FYODOR
Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:55 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Soyuz-TMA-19M Launch
Replies: 6
Views: 8270

Soyuz-TMA-19M Launch

Hi folks, To those who might interested - photo story of ISS next mission launch from Baikonur from my friend and colleague Leonid Faerberg at Aviation Week: <a href="http://aviationweek.com/space/iss-launch-through-russian-lens#slide-0-field_images-1390491" target="_blank">http://aviationweek.com/s...

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by FYODOR
Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:29 am
Forum: Photography Feedback
Topic: Question On Leveling
Replies: 2
Views: 905

Question On Leveling

Question on leveling. This shot <a href="http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/APPEAL_20151216_z1449610597.143tu204-redwings-64050-cockpit-dawn.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...04-redwings-64050-cockpit-dawn.jpg</a> was rejected both times for level including a...

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by FYODOR
Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:23 pm
Forum: Aviation Photography
Topic: Where To Buy Photoshop
Replies: 6
Views: 5869

RE: Where To Buy Photoshop

This Adobe monthly subscription for photogs is just a great thing. In Russia is cost 299RUB (about 5US$) a month. I use it and can just recommend.

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by FYODOR
Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:37 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey
Replies: 306
Views: 30142

RE: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey

Orthodox influence is strong indeed and increasing but I see not much conflicts. At least in my small village there are 4 Christian churches of 3 different confessions. I'd say generally the increasing of religion influence is the case for discussion especially in case of involvement to schools, att...

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by FYODOR
Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:41 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey
Replies: 306
Views: 30142

RE: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/MD11Engineer" class="quote" target="_blank">MD11Engineer</a> (<a href="#248" class="quote">Reply 248</a>):<br/><i>not caring about ethnic or rel...

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by FYODOR
Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:41 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey
Replies: 306
Views: 30142

RE: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/ThePointblank" class="quote" target="_blank">ThePointblank</a> (<a href="#244" class="quote">Reply 244</a>):<br/><i>Remember, the Russians exist...

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by FYODOR
Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:31 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey
Replies: 306
Views: 30142

RE: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Pu" class="quote" target="_blank">Pu</a> (<a href="#243" class="quote">Reply 243</a>):<br/><i>You're quite liberated for a Russian but Russians ...

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by FYODOR
Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:55 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey
Replies: 306
Views: 30142

RE: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey

Btw in 1988 the guy from Norway on C152 had crossed the border few times within few days (provocative reasons?) but he was even not intercepted. They saw him but were not care too much. Just to describe the time when world was moving to peace.

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by FYODOR
Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:37 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey
Replies: 306
Views: 30142

RE: Russian Jet Allegedly Shot Down In Turkey

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/scbriml" class="quote" target="_blank">scbriml</a> (<a href="#238" class="quote">Reply 238</a>):<br/><i> a small difference between a Cessna and...

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