Sir Tim bet big and he bet wrong. Now he's trying to shirk responsibility by chiding other airlines for not making equally big bad bets? Ridiculous. -irJump to post
Clearest sign yet that LH don't know what to do with their A380s!
They're now outsourcing the decision to the brilliant users of Twitter. -ir
Like someone mentioned above, these will be most likely replaced by fast food restaurants which will contribute to the diabetes epidemic that's ravaging the US. I mean, according to official statistics, there are more than 100.000.000 people in the US living with diabetes or pre-diabetes. The answe...Jump to post
Continental who? -irJump to post
alancostello wrote:Waterbomber2 wrote:As for the airlines who now operate the A380, they better think twice before selling them. It's like selling your heaviest weapons to your enemies.
Pretty sure some airlines would consider them a noose not a weapon.
No surprise that the 777X is definitely ruled out... Who says the 777X is definitely ruled out? Where did you read or hear that? In this article: https://centreforaviation.com/analysis/reports/korean-air-new-chief-walter-cho-in-spotlight-as-seoul-hosts-iata-agm-475578 You'll find the following quot...Jump to post
ericm2031 wrote:Looks like EK is still planning on the 78J order...https://simpleflying.com/emirates-787-10-order-staying/
Thank you. In this case not sure what the point is really of the non-stop flight if the time savings are only a couple of hours. The notion to be locked in a plane for 20 hours just to save 3 hours seems rather ridiculous to me. Your thinking is soooo last decade. It's 2019 now - get with the progr...Jump to post
Silly stunt would be flying between DXB and DWC Yeah I would like to see a free A380 shuttle service from DXB to DWC in order to catch a connection. If that isn't short enough, EK could offer an A380 shuttle from Terminal 3 to Terminal 1. It would be the pilot's choice whether to take off and land,...Jump to post
After watching that, I feel all warm and tingly.
I'll echo the sentiments: Congratulations, Airbus. Please do stick around. -ir
What was this CEO under the influence of to make such a laughable comment? In a related story, White Star Line CEO calls maiden voyage of Titanic a 'success', noting, "We got the passengers most of the way to New York." -ir And, "It improved our understanding of navigation, communica...Jump to post
acinvestigator wrote:What was this CEO under the influence of to make such a laughable comment?
Vladex wrote:Another video by a starving passenger
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/package-of-newused-a380s-pitched-to-ba-was-uncompe-457443/ pretty interesting article. according to BA's ceo the a380 wasn't even close to being competitive with the 777x. a big factor was interior mods would have taken 50 million a plane, which at that po...Jump to post
Prospect airlines for the A321XLR: Iceandair, AirLingus, Jetblue, United, Delta, Chinese Airlines. United must be a red hot customer. How else will they be able to dump those A350s that they're so desperate to get rid of? :duck: They can pick up the phone and ask AA. Ostensibly, it's not that diffi...Jump to post
Since the Lufthansa CEO has publicly stated that the 14 779 option were a part of this order's negotiation, we can speculate if they still exist or have been converted into the 789 order. I suspect they are gone. I am not sure why the mods deleted the previous posts on this since this does not cons...Jump to post
more on the subject today https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/delta-encourages-boeing-to-launch-nma-456349/ Thanks for link. Bastian's comments are reportedly from today (March 5th). Salient language: "We are still very interested in it," he tells investors at the JP Morgan Aviatio...Jump to post
So I guess it could be either A320neo family or 737MAX family for narrowbodies and either A350's, 787's or 777X's for widebodies. So pretty much anything then? :lol: Seriously though, do they need more aircraft? They should take the ones they already ordered first, before they do an Etihad. I am of...Jump to post
Waterbomber2 wrote:Airbus should have given WW the firesale A380's he wanted in a combo with more A350's.
What a strategic mistake for Airbus.
Boeing press release https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0ecQlSXgAAImbk.jpg https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2019-02-28-Boeing-Signs-Deal-for-Up-to-42-777X-Airplanes-with-International-Airlines-Group Beautiful - a most excellent and fitting replacement for BA's venerable 747 fleet! And 24 options? Sweet! -irJump to post
Indeed. Airbus really gave it the hard sell over the last few years, and BA probably came closest to committing (besides EK), but they were probably who Enders had in mind that those who were interested did not want to pay enough for Airbus to not make a loss. <good stuff snipped> In short: There a...Jump to post
Additionally, Japan's declining population, as well as the bullet train (Shinkansen) competition on domestic routes, would've meant that VLAs are economically unviable in the Japanese airline market. As good as the Shinkansen trains are, I don't think there's any plan to extend service to Honolulu,...Jump to post
There is no conceivable way you are doing to tell me that one of the largest airlines in the world, that had firm contracts with a supplier, was FORCED to do something that wasn't in their best interest by said supplier. Actually, there is a conceivable way - in fact, I've already told you exactly ...Jump to post
All indications I have is that EK wanted to receive all the A380's they had on firm order. They were willing to "go along" and play nice with the cancellation of part of the existing firm contracts (39 A380) and use the cancellation penalties from Airbus and possibly RR on other purchases...Jump to post
Delta CEO Ed Bastian gave some insight on the A380 shut down to Yahoo this morning when he talked about their fleet if anyone is interested: https://twitter.com/YahooFinance/status/1096082726887710720 Thanks for link! To save a.netters some time, the portion of interest begins at time mark 5:05 . B...Jump to post
Etihad Cancels 42 A350 -42 x A350-900 According to Airbus Etihad have cancelled 42 x A350-900. “Etihad to reduce its A350 order by 42 A350-900, leaving 20 A350-1000 for Etihad in the backlog.” Source: https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2019/02/airbus-reports-strong-fullyear-2018-resu...Jump to post
Why would EK need A330neo? Because those were the price to pay to get rid of the A380s. Based on pure performance and usefulness EK did opt for the 787 as can be seen by the 787 MOU. Best I can figure, EK must have been more desperate to cancel the A380 order than Airbus, or, in any event, Airbus h...Jump to post
MrHMSH wrote:...this is a big boost for the A330neo and a nice little lift for the A350...
Matt6461 wrote:Despite all the flames thrown on this site, however, the A380 critics have been proven (or are about to be proven) conclusively right.
WW expects Airbus to sell BA A380s at even greater losses because why? Because he's WW. I'm finding it really hard to take WW seriously with respect to his A380 flirtation. His (in)action after all these years leads to me believe that he's just a playful tease with no desire (or incentive) to consu...Jump to post
Who would’ve thought the 747-8 would outlive the 380. Ha! A380 sales still obliterated those of 747-8i. Which is a good thing. And it is Airbus Industrie that will go down in history as the one who built largest passenger jetliner. Pyrrhic victory (/ˈpɪrɪk/ ( listen) PIRR-ik) is a victory that infl...Jump to post
Prost wrote:I guess it’s ‘put up or shut up’ time for BA...
FlightLevel360 wrote:This is the stupidest move in all of aviation history.
I have little doubt that the writing is on the wall regarding the future of the 380. I think all that's left is working out the details. My guess it will be announced before Paris, where they will have a big 380 farewell presentation. Yeah, hard not to notice the uncanny silence from Airbus regardi...Jump to post
With this latest cancellation the real backlog is down to 3 NH-airframes plus 53 EK-airframes = 56 A380‘s. Don't you imagine NH are feeling pretty burned right now? As I recall, they weren't happy about being forced/pressured into taking A380s in the first place. Maybe Airbus will let NH off the ho...Jump to post
In any case, I do think that it is Airbus combing their A380 order book and they are trying to determine which orders are really firm and going to get delivered. They may have offered an easy way out of the contracts and Qantas took advantage of it. I think you're right. And, likely RR is doing lik...Jump to post
JerseyFlyer wrote:More 779s for EK sounds the right balance for fewer A380s.
But that would only translate to more 779 sales if they do not come from the Etihad order.
Yeah, I don't understand it either. Why would there suddenly be a need for the A35K in EK's fleet? Seems like the logical answer would be to double down on 779s. -ir Maybe because there is a need to find a productive use for deposits paid to Airbus? Or maybe because (as noted upthread) the 35K is p...Jump to post
The 359 has a lot more wing than the 789. 777-8/-9 has a lot more wing than either. Seems to me EK already picked their 77W replacement. Not sure why Airbus deciding to close A380 early changes that decision. Yeah, I don't understand it either. Why would there suddenly be a need for the A35K in EK'...Jump to post
For the masses the "Jumbo Jet" was always about transporting people not some cheap Chinese electronics flying from some obscure freight hub to another. The A380 indeed ended the plane that captured the imagination of people before - the 747 passenger with the last version utterly failing ...Jump to post
Things are not looking too rosy at EY. Their new marching orders seem to include some belt tightening. I suspect that there is more cost cutting to come and will lead to more hard bargaining down the road. The mandate to cut expenses may very well lead to extra scrutiny in other areas, including an...Jump to post
Given the limbo of EY's B777x orders, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-etihad-airways-boeing-exclusive/exclusive-etihad-airways-in-talks-to-cancel-defer-boeing-777x-orders-sources-idUSKBN1J92FF I would say nothing about the A359 is predictive of delivery of the B777x to EY. This is no surprise to...Jump to post
United needed a 744 replacement, and the 77W was the only plane that could fulfill the 744 missions. Airbus didnt have a plane at the time that United wanted as a 744 replacement. I do remember a few years back when UA ordered the A359 as a 744 replacement.....terrible idea! The A350-1000 could ful...Jump to post