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by Trin
Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Regardless of what system is causing the Runaway trim, which is what they were experiencing, they should have known to reach for the cut-out switches..... I just heard John Nance say the same thing on the radio ... basically this is something any pilot worth his or her salt should have known to do ...

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by Trin
Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I was afraid of that, sorry. Here it is Thanks - appreciate it. It was an interesting read - I just sort of wish some of it had surprised me. A heavy reliance on data (which of course is all they have to go on), increased monitoring of MAXs, and none of them wanting to disrupt airline operations to...

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by Trin
Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

WSJ article on WN, AA and UAs decision not to ground the Max, initially... https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-u-s-airlines-decisions-to-keep-flying-the-737-max-11553092416?mod=hp_lead_pos1 Edit, change link It's behind a paywall. If you want others to read it you will have to quote pertinent secti...

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by Trin
Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

There are some simple things to start with. Explain MCAS to the pilots. Train MCAS active situations on simulators, not separately, but it seems together with a whole host of other issues, like unreliable airspeed, stick shaker, stall warning and so on. Perform a mandated serious difference trainin...

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by Trin
Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

flyingturtle wrote:
Wow, that piece by Dominic Gates is damning.

Nuke Boeing from orbit. It's the only way to be safe.

David


Yeah but they mostly come out at night.....

......Mostly.

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by Trin
Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

MCAS does not seem to be the root problem. There is something wrong in the AoA sensor path that is causing unreliable readings. This is potentially leading to faulty MCAS operation, but also unteliable air speed and additional control column forced due to the yoke feel system. And some of the anecd...

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by Trin
Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

If MCAS just shouted 'I AM DOING STUFF' all this would be squarely pilot error. When MCAS is active, then the crew must trust it's doing the right thing. Given two deadly crashes, an announcement like "I AM DOING STUFF" will just make the pilots do the Runaway Trim Procedure. David MCAS s...

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by Trin
Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

The statement is 100% true because: There is NOT ONE single piece of man-made equipment on the planet that is PERFECT. Every aircraft has errors, so does every car, building, bridge, toaster, fridge, stove, lightbulb, etc. It does NOT (in and of itself) make them unsafe. If you can't grasp that, pe...

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by Trin
Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Too much ? Too greedy ? Was it done without the careful process in the original selection ? Too simplistic a view of it. Engineers looked at it and felt they could go larger. MAYBE the made an error, maybe they didn't. Maybe whatever is plaguing the Max right now will be fixed and the plane will go...

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by Trin
Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

But all other things being equal, there is reason to doubt that we'd have more than 300 people dead without MCAS. Regarding MCAS, I'm also wondering how a solution design with the following characteristics even made it past the very fist architectural stages, never mind through certification: 1) us...

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by Trin
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Question: considering there are hours worth of fuel, why would both pilots turn back so soon without more attempts to stablize the aircraft? Im not a pilot but it doesnt seem like a wise choice unless they are having engine trouble or low fuel. I'm not sure. Not a pilot. But in my mind knowing what...

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by Trin
Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Pitch and power requires no airspeed indicator at all. Fly pitch & power. MCAS kicks in. Run auto-trim cut off. Trim manually. The last one is an added complication, BUT, in light of ALL the talk in the community (including professionally) after Lion Air, that should have been a given. Sure it ...

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by Trin
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Pitch and power requires no airspeed indicator at all. Fly pitch & power. MCAS kicks in. Run auto-trim cut off. Trim manually. The last one is an added complication, BUT, in light of ALL the talk in the community (including professionally) after Lion Air, that should have been a given. Sure it ...

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by Trin
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

So how does this sound: Incorrect airpseed reading, pilot think they are Vr but really aren't. Pull back and nose lifts. Air/Ground trigger (flight is now 'airborne') Nose is being held off by pilots fighting to get in the air, not sure why they aren't. AC continues accelerating down runway. V incr...

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by Trin
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

What does that even mean?? Read this to find out -- https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/Emergency_Order.pdf I wish. All it said was: "On March 13th 2019, the investigation of the ET302 crash developed new information from the wreckage concerning the aircraft's configuration just after takeo...

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by Trin
Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

From CNN's 'Live Updates' ticker this afternoon: The FAA tweeted that "new evidence collected at the site and analyzed today" impacted the agency's decision to order a temporary grounding of all Boeing 737 Max aircraft that are operated by US airlines or over US skies. What does that even ...

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by Trin
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

With all these countries grounding it do you think they have some insider/preliminary information into these crashes? There was an aviation expert on BBC World Service Radio last night saying some of these countries have gotten some information. Without a doubt. They are more than likely bound by s...

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by Trin
Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Personally, I think it is in everyone's best interests if the black boxes are taken to the NEAREST lab capable of reading them. That certainly wouldn't be on the North American continent. These devices need to be downloaded immediately and the data disseminated immediately for the health of the flyi...

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by Trin
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

CAA now following others and grounding the MAX. Sad day for aviation and for Boeing. Hopefully a fix will be found soon and flying can restart. How long before we have s total grounding? A fix? A fix for what? We don't even know what caused the Ethiopian crash at this point. Just educated guesses. ...

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by Trin
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

One of the most pointed and impressively simple questions I've seen so far on here. My thoughts EXACTLY. It is high time that we got some answers as to the basic handling characteristics of this airframe, and what was discovered ruing testing/modeling that made the need for MCAS (or, if you are bei...

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by Trin
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

New quote by the Ethiopian Airlines CEO just now: The pilots of the doomed Ethiopian Airlines flight told air traffic control they were having “flight control problems” before the crash, airline CEO Tewolde GebreMariam told CNN’s Richard Quest Tuesday. Admittedly the pedantic can construe 'flight co...

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by Trin
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I was basically asking, if I disabled MCAS and approached a stall at high AoA in a 737NG and a 737MAX, what would the differences be? I'm asking because clearly Boeing had enough data on some rather unfriendly discoveries during modeling / testing to justify the implementation of MCAS. I just want ...

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by Trin
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

It would be very interesting to understand rationale and approach to how MCAS and flight controls with MCAS using single source air data was approved for certification... That's sort of the point I was making earlier upthread. What I *really* want to know throughout all of this (thought originally ...

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by Trin
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Per Boeing's press release this morning, regarding a software update to MCAS in the near future... "...The enhanced flight control law incorporates angle of attack (AOA) inputs, limits stabilizer trim commands in response to an erroneous angle of attack reading, and provides a limit to the sta...

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by Trin
Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Per Boeing's press release this morning, regarding a software update to MCAS in the near future... "...The enhanced flight control law incorporates angle of attack (AOA) inputs, limits stabilizer trim commands in response to an erroneous angle of attack reading, and provides a limit to the sta...

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by Trin
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Could a wonderful member of this form recap for the rest of us that don’t want to read through the speculation posts just the facts so far that’s Been officially released on this incident. We really appreciate it! Very few facts available so far. The jet crashed about ~8 mins after takeoff. There w...

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by Trin
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Hello everyone, I do not have time to dig through the thread at this time, would anyone be willing to post the last recorded FPM descent rate? Thank you. The FDR data is not available yet The FR24 data ceased several minutes before the crash. Some people have looked at the crash site and concluded ...

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by Trin
Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 721412

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I always wonder how and why witnesses are so unreliable. I know not everyone knows about aircraft, but how hard is it to fully understand and comprehend what you’re seeing? Just weird how so many people claim to see fire and smoke when they really didn’t. I know I know it would be a very intense si...

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by Trin
Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

I'm not trying to sound holier-than-thou - but now that the CVR has been found, it should in the very least bring us back down to earth and remember just what happened to the poor souls on board that plane. All the high-octane posts about people eating humble pie for breakfast this morning and the ...

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by Trin
Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

I'm not trying to sound holier-than-thou - but now that the CVR has been found, it should in the very least bring us back down to earth and remember just what happened to the poor souls on board that plane. All the high-octane posts about people eating humble pie for breakfast this morning and the h...

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by Trin
Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

So I have a question, after reading everything that is up to date on this incident. It is more a human-related question than a design-related question, but nonetheless.... WHY would an airplane with such sensor discrepancies be allowed to (be able to) take off? According to the detailed graphs that ...

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by Trin
Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
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Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Stunning data dissemination by Zeke - thank you very much. I'm still digesting it, but it is all very alarming to me. So, if I read correctly, at the beginning of the plane's final moments, the stabilizer had traveled as far as it could in the nose-down configuration? Would that be because the repea...

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by Trin
Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
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Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

The incompetence of boeing has already been clearly exposed & revealed.The only question now is whether the crew could have done a better job at low altitude, in ignorance of the stealth modes quietly introduced by Boeing.The consensus at the moment is no. Even after being thoroughly exposed , ...

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by Trin
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
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Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Am I wrong in saying that additional training was still not really required? No matter the cause of the situation, it's still a runaway trim issue correct? So the solution is still the same as existing training when runaway trim situations occur. I don't know. Runaway trim, sure - every PF should k...

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by Trin
Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
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Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

"Southwest, American pilots unions question 737 Max documentation after Indonesia crash" "Two U.S. pilots' unions say the potential risks of a safety feature on Boeing Co.'s 737 Max aircraft that has been linked to a deadly crash in Indonesia weren't sufficiently spelled out in their...

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by Trin
Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
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Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

AoA vanes are also prone to unreliable data. A vane might bend if you have a birdstrike directly onto it. Then, when using AoA a primary info, you still need to realise, that something is wrong. This circles back to the biggest challenge that comes with unreliable data: the recognition that you act...

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by Trin
Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Knowing what we know so far about this incident - the following seems to me to be the events that should be receiving our focus, and in this order: 1. WHY did this MAX have faulty AoA sensors (and/or faulty airspeed sensors) ; (Answer will lead to a possible hardware check/improvement on all MAXs) 2...

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by Trin
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

I was very very critical regarding the performance of the AF447 pilots, but this time I wont blame the Lion Air pilots one bit with the information we have got so far. Agreed 100% Whereas AF447 was complete failure to respond to standard loss of airspeed information at high altitude (and subsequent...

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by Trin
Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
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Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Has anyone done the above (with a startle effect, ie: not telling the pilot what the instructor is about to throw at him) in a sim with unreliable airspeed and possibly with AOA disagree on top of that? I surely would like to know the answer to that, also. Seeing as the safety of each flight is so ...

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by Trin
Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

If this latest development turns out to be the cause for the accident then this would be very difficult for the pilots to avoid? If so, is this the first time a modern passenger airline have flown itself into the ground leaving little room for the pilots to avoid the disaster? Proper training, even...

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by Trin
Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
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Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Interesting development. Question I have is, if such issues have surfaced on other MAXes flying even if they were not immediately detected, or if this particular Lion Air aircraft presented the first known instance of such a problem. Holy crap. No issues has been officially identified yet. The supp...

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by Trin
Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the captain's side airspeed fault that occurred in the previous flight was not corrected, and that the pilots failed to follow proper procedure for unreliable airspeed, which is to use the proper pitch and power to maintain flight (something pilots are suppos...

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by Trin
Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Once they find the black boxes how long until they will let the public know what happened? That depends on a lot of things. For one thing, the recorders may not have all the relevant information. A final report typically takes several months at least. I looked up some of the old AirAsia 8501 news i...

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by Trin
Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Lion Air Group just fired their Director Technical Operation today No. He's just suspended from his position by the order of the Indonesian Ministry of Transportation. Lion Air can reassign him back to his position if later the investigation find that he is not liable for the accident. Where do you...

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by Trin
Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune.org-vbulletin/1362x636/screenshot_from_2018_10_29_16_57_55_39710b4e9a1a91f89c6dea693c6880f29dd31525.png It seems from the data the crew disengaged the auto pilot at 20.25. The variation in speed & height after that indicates manual control. The autopilot woul...

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by Trin
Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Hello all, Unless there is a glaring failure somewhere in this accident that will be caught quickly, I feel it may be a difficult investigation to reconstruct... Shouldn't be - the crash site is in shallow ocean and still within ATC communication. This isn't AF447 or MH370. The CVR and FDR will be ...

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by Trin
Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Are you suggesting that a pilot with 6,000 hours wouldn't know the difference between what it feels like when his aircraft is climbing, vs. when it's pointed straight at the ground? If they're in clouds with no visual reference and instrument failure, how would anybody be able to tell up from down?...

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by Trin
Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
Views: 597926

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-29/lion-air-jet-s-final-plunge-topped-300-miles-per-hour-data-show In a stall, is a drop of 15,000 feet per minute typical? Well, at the point of impact with the ocean, AF447 was descending at 10,912 feet per minute, and of course that was largely in ...

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by Trin
Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3187
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Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangal Pinang

Pitots? That just looks really erratic. Highly, highly unlikely they levelled of at 5000ft and struggled along for almost 8 mins, it seems very likely that this aircraft had something very wrong with it. I noticed, that the first altitude drop already occurred during the turn after take off. So the...

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by Trin
Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Kolavia A321 Crashes In Sinai / Egypt - Part 4
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RE: Kolavia A321 Crashes In Sinai / Egypt - Part 4

<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/PlaneInsomniac" class="quote" target="_blank">PlaneInsomniac</a> (<a href="#68" class="quote">Reply 68</a>):<br/><i> There is a video circulatin...

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