Again, why Seattle and not St. Louis? BDS arguably needs more corporate executive management attention than BCA. And BDS employees in St. Louis have long been annoyed by the focus on BCA and the Puget Sound area. The inability of posters on this topic to distinguish between Boeing Corporation and o...
Jump to postSo a couple of things, moving to Seattle will not be a magic pill for Boeing. There isn't something in the water or weather in Washington that will make it a confirmed success if they do move. However I think all of us agree they need a culture change at the top. Moving the HQ back will show that th...
Jump to postThis will make the evening and morning news .... https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/boeing-737-max-diverts-idaho-after-flight-emergency Wow a faulty Cargo Smoke alarm. Just take a trip thru Av Herald and see how this happens to AB as well. This reporting by the media is getting out of hand. Brou...
Jump to postI think you’re confusing causation with correlation, along with mixing and matching decisions from different management teams and various time periods. Boeing didn’t generate increasing amounts of cash in the later part of 2010s because it sold off assets or offered early retirements, it was becaus...
Jump to postI don’t think you have an accurate view of the situation or are fairly attributing blame. Why is there a push to assemble and deliver airplanes? It’s because airline customers demand them and penalize Boeing when they’re not delivered. Why are there many quality issues with in-production airplanes ...
Jump to postI'm with kalvado on this one. You're not going to get the experienced people back twenty years after the move. IMHO, the reasons Boeing took HQ out of Seattle were to: - Cut exec/managerial headcount, knowing fully well not everyone would move (That's a technique that goes back to the late 60s, wit...
Jump to postThis is more than just 'online meetings'. This is about relationships. You don't always win contracts by having the best product. You often times win contracts by friendships and relationships. From a pure objective business perspective, 2020 Revenue (in millions) Commercial Aircraft: $16,162 (27.7...
Jump to postI know the odds are very slim, but if Richard Anderson is chosen, I wonder if that could potentially sway Delta's future aircraft purchases in favor of Boeing. That would be awesome. Someone in the Delta family running Boeing. As we are told countless times, airframe purchases aren't personal. The ...
Jump to postFrom the time of Launching the 787 to the MAX disasters - excepting for the 767, the whole product line was renewed/refreshed. 787-8,9,10 747-8/8F 737-7,8,9,10 777-8/9 That's an incredible number of projects to work on in basically a 15 year period of time. One could argue - given the outcome - tha...
Jump to postAs for finishing Boeing off, I have a view that Boeing got obsessed with "finishing Airbus off" whilst they were vulnerable with the A380 issues and A350 relaunch. This caused them to take their eye off the ball - i.e. just focus on your own business quality and let the results do the tal...
Jump to postI can't understand the hype Personally I'm with you. I suppose it's the perceived value for money when compared to the legacy US/EU carriers. Imagine what the same airlines could do if they pumped their own oil out the ground and paid significantly below market rate for their staff too. Except….the...
Jump to postIt has been quite rapid. They seemingly went from on fire and in crisis to powering on in about 5 months, I think that was as much to do with the new CEO wanting to make his mark verbally when he was probably aware of the direction the company was in before he took over. I may be wrong but doubt yo...
Jump to postOn top of the JL and KE orders, and a possible upcoming QR order ... delivery slots are quickly getting snapped up. Will Airbus be able to up production to cope? They are planning for 9 a month next year some time but at the moment that production rate with the current backlog will take around 6 ye...
Jump to postthere were a few educative posts about what "technology readiness level" is. At least they were very educative for me, helped to understand quite a few things... It is very easy for us to look back at the decisions made and criticise, but we are not sitting here saying that Boeing should ...
Jump to postscbriml wrote:1337Delta764 wrote:I wonder if Boeing will introduce a new logo, similar to Wells Fargo and Subway did after their scandals.
Rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic syndrome.
On a positive note, there are HUGE order books. If Boeing hopefully, finally gets it right now, there still is money to be made. This would be my approach to convince investors to free funds for new programs and a different strategy now. Boeing needs consistency and more of a routine working state ...
Jump to postJohn Oliver uses comedy to highlight serious issues as people seem to engage more if it makes you laugh. If this was a 60 Minutes insert with dramatic music it would not get as much eyeballs and it probably would not be more informative than this piece. The sad part for Boeing is when the Al Jazeera...
Jump to postThey will order the 777-8X Much like the A346, the missions where the 778 is needed over the competition is very very small. They will exist, but when your competitor can fly the same distance and the same amount of passengers, give or take about 10, but weigh around 25t-30t less you are in trouble...
Jump to postThe strategy of squeezing suppliers to enhance shareholder value was always going to bite at some time. Now it seems like Boeing will need to spend money to bring production back in-house and you wonder if they are going to find that producing the fuselages at the margins they paid for is actually p...
Jump to postNo they haven't, please ready the article you post. However, as part of Ryanair's PR strategy, they have said they are want to take any MAX-10 that other is cancelling. Whicj is not the same "made a deal". Seems like "if the price is right", is missing in there somewhere. :smile...
Jump to postThe real question is something else though: If (and thats a big if) UA reduces the -10 order, are there actually any open slots available, not only because UA would not take them, but does Boeing actually have the ability do produce the frames. There is a big issue going on with production rates (r...
Jump to postBoeing made a deal with Ryan Air for them to buy any 737-10's that might be cancelled. https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/rryanair-boeing-737-max-10-dropped-orders I saw a TV news article where Boeing people were talking about flight planning. They seemed to be trying to figure out alternatives lik...
Jump to postIt's just a simple matter of flexibility, most airlines want to have an aircraft that could do short-medium ops (the sweet spot ) on one day and be thrown on a ULH flight the next day without taking a significant payload hit , the 789 and a359/a35K can do just that , the 78X can't. The fact that th...
Jump to postYou have to tell me BAW flow A35J 60% load factor? Probably it was xy pax + 20t payload, isn’t? 216 seats vs. 331 seats? I don't think he was trying to prove anything other than give data for points on aircraft that his airline is operating. It is not a fair comparison as one is a 331 seat 316t (or...
Jump to postCorrect me if I am wrong, but the CEO has not been replaced yet, right? Not sure you are going to have a change of culture if your CEO has been on board for a long time. So not sure if we can trust what Boeing tells you with 100% certainty at all. I can see a case where Boeing has not provided all t...
Jump to postMakes sense to me that prices may be influenced by a lack of seats. Costs for Ryanair would have gone up as well as it has for everyone else. I suspect they may not have rushed to make up salaries for inflation, but I am sure their costs have gone up by more than they thought or planned. Add in less...
Jump to postIf you had no intention of flying the route - I don’t see anything due. I’m sorry but to me this looks like someone trying to get something for free once again. Where do you get that anyone did not intend to fly the route? If the flight was delayed and you made alternative plans, should the airline...
Jump to postAmerican 767 wrote:They should have been, 20 years ago or so, when they made the decision to stop building the 757.
Added A330-900 and A350-1000 and corrected a typo on A350-900 fuel per paylaod: And there we understand why A330-900 have few customers and why the LCC buy it "cheap" to put way more than 300pax in it. The A339 OEW is not 135t but closer to the 789 OEW I believe. Not sure what that does t...
Jump to postAdded A330-900 and A350-1000 and corrected a typo on A350-900 fuel per paylaod: B787-9 - $64.5 - 140.5M, $430-960,000, OEW 129t, MZFW 182t, MTOW 254t, 290 pax, 7635nm B787-10 - $105.2 - 156.8M, $610-1,185,000, OEW135t, MZFW 192t, MTOW 260t, 330 pax, 6400nm A330-900 - $70.1 - 107.2M, $500-785,000, O...
Jump to postairlinepeanuts wrote:And people know this when they apply, interview, train and start doing the job.
Boeing has indicated the 6.4 increase in metric ton payload equates to about 430 nm additional range. And agreed, it is needed. I wonder, is this claimed 430nm a marketing claim or real world figure? I assume, seeing as it is coming from Boeing, we are looking at a marketing figure, so how much rea...
Jump to postI think you’re inferring values on the mission statement. Boeing lays out more details if you bothered to look. How we operate Start with engineering excellence A strong engineering foundation enables us to build and maintain our products with safety, quality and integrity in the factory and in ser...
Jump to postTo add some quotes from the Guardian link, A cabin panel that blew off a brand-new Boeing 737 Max 9 jet mid-flight appeared to be missing four key bolts, according to an initial report by the US safety regulator. The bolts meant to hold the door plug in place were absent, the National Transportation...
Jump to postIIRC the 777 was the last Boeing program that delivered on time and on budget and had no groundings. I thought that, while on time, he program was way over budget as they threw money at the program to get it on delivered on time. I am happy to be corrected on this though. I was going to post that i...
Jump to postMulally would have needed the right budget at Boeing. Something he hadn't any more when he left. The 787 back then had to start with less than what was needed to do it in-house, forcing BCA to move major work to external partners. Some more, some less successful. Were they forced to move major work...
Jump to postI get that posters are saying buy back the plant and not the company running the plant, but the problem from a Boeing standpoint is that once you have the facility you need workers to work there. They will need to hire the staff in the plant and that will add to the cost for the company, and I think...
Jump to postBut, do airlines like DL get frustrated their competitor is getting better treatment? Is Airbus spending a lot (buying slots back) and then giving UA a great deal to get this? Doesn't Airbus have the "most favoured customer clause" with AA? So they are a little tied on what they can offer...
Jump to postI wonder how much of the issues in QC being faced is trying to keep up with the competition. If Airbus is able to win more market share by taking production capacity from Boeing, they do seem to share a lot of suppliers, then the incentive to slow down will be even less for Boeing. Get them out as q...
Jump to postThat is the old 2 class 787-10 layout that did not have premium economy. All 787-10s are in a 3 class layout with 318 seats total now. But the 787-10 has one additional row of J vs the A359 though. Ah, thanks, I did the lazy thing of just seeing a capacity number on the KLM website. That is interes...
Jump to postI'm not so surprised. The A350-900 is more than 4 meters longer than the 777-200ER, while the A350-1000 has an identical overall length to the 777-300ER. The 777 fuselage tapers towards the front doors, and significantly towards the rear doors, reducing cabin width, and thereby available space for ...
Jump to postGreat win for Airbus, existing 777X customer and only ever had Boeing cargo aircraft as well. And you have RR having to be dealt with as well that is making sales almost impossible at the moment if you consider the EK and Thai deals. Everything was in favour of the 778F to win this one and it did no...
Jump to postI'd expect the single class high density business more being served by the MAX-10 on shorter to medium range routes. Long range is the XLR's USP this is typically a different product. Do we know the OEW of the MAX-10? If the A321neo OEW and the MAX-10 OEW is similar, don't see why you would need to...
Jump to postNot according to my carrier's data. That is, our 737-800s carries 9 more people on the average domestic flight (while offering 16 more seats) and burns less fuel than our A320CEOs. Further, our 737-900s burn very slightly less than the 320s while carrying 25 more people on the average flight. Going...
Jump to postI'm not sure why we're regurgitating this... This was discussed on this very thread throughout the summer, and eventually came to the following conclusion on reply #255 of this thread 2 months ago.. Rgds Not sure what you mean by "this". The last couple of posts were about what is viewed ...
Jump to postThe 777-8 (232', 395 pax) and 777-9 (252', 426) perfectly straddle the former 777-300 (242', 396pax)... One, -8, allows you to keep the same pax count as the -W but fly much further; the other, -9, allows you to keep the same range as the -W, but gain another 30pax. Nice to see the -8 get orders. I...
Jump to postWhere did you get that from? The MAX10 has a slight edge on fuel efficiency on flights under ~2 hours and the 3210NEO had a slight edge on efficiency on longer flights, but the two models are very comparable from an operating cost perspective. Where the NEO comes into its own is range, but if you d...
Jump to postI remember the old days when Boeing bumped the 787 accounting block from 1100 units to 1400 and this site exploded... In fairness it was never the amount of the accounting block that worried us, it was the insistence that they would be able to claw back profits over that amount of deliveries as the...
Jump to postqf789 wrote:Airbus has 2 press conferences planned for Day 1
https://www.dubaiairshow.aero/press-conference-schedule
In a two class configuration the A351 typically seats 369 pax. That would be 54J and 315 Y. BA for instance seats 331, but there's is a more premium heavy configuration. The 779 seats 414-426 in a two class configuration. That would be 42J and 372 to 384 Y. Despite the back and forth which is fun, ...
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