The trouble is that SEA is too small so DL cant grow as large as they wish Seattle is the global headquarters for Amazon, Microsoft, Starbucks, Expedia, Costco, plus many others. It’s not some podunk backwater. But still small in overall total population. Don’t equate small with unimportant. As for...Jump to post
Will DL ever be successful in making SEA their TPAC hub similar to UA at SFO? No. That was only the plan when it became apparent NRT was closing as a hub and KE and DL were fighting. Now that KE is a full JV partner there is no need to fly a bunch of risky stuff like SEA-SIN like they might have tr...Jump to post
Reading the India start/restart threads got me thinking These routes are supposedly very profitable for UA. Same market essentially, but DL isnt very interested in NRT HND China and is just starting to put its toe in India. Historically, CO had to start these routes from EWR if they wanted to serve...Jump to post
Delta was late to the game in forming SkyTeam and that didn’t help with Asia. They had to pick from the leftovers. Not being competitive in bidding and losing out to AA for a stake in JL didn’t help either. JL and CX would have been much better partners for DL and certainly would have helped JFK-As...Jump to post
Is that how you feel or is that fact? Got any recent polls to back that up? I'd say just as important to lucrative, premium passengers is getting to where they are going with a reputable, on time airline and not roll the dice with the other US2 and their alliances. Connecting in ICN is a breeze, es...Jump to post
Delta was late to the game in forming SkyTeam and that didn’t help with Asia. They had to pick from the leftovers. Not being competitive in bidding and losing out to AA for a stake in JL didn’t help either. JL and CX would have been much better partners for DL and certainly would have helped JFK-Asi...Jump to post
As far as the highly restrictive Basic Economy product, I believe airlines are over-segmenting air travelers and are therefore managing too many margins in a defined space and creating too much complexity. It’s like trying to put The Ritz Carlton, The W, Westin, Courtyard by Marriott, Fairfield Inn ...Jump to post
HP69 wrote:Until Mexico City gets a new Airport, it will be hard for AeroMexico to profitably operate.
I know airlines upgauge for special events because of the traffic, but are there other examples of a US airline adding a p2p just for an event?Jump to post
zakuivcustom wrote:I would argue that if CX are to add another partner in US, it'll be B6. That would increase CX's presence in both BOS and JFK. CX also codeshare with AS right now anyway, helping feeds on their SEA flights.
I’m not convinced any airline is wedded to their respective alliance. Simply being a “founding member” is not a business reason. If more money can be made leaving an alliance, an airline will change partners, cancel JV agreements, sell/write-off financial investments and reconfigure networks. Corre...Jump to post
I’m not convinced any airline is wedded to their respective alliance. Simply being a “founding member” is not a business reason. If more money can be made leaving an alliance, an airline will change partners, cancel JV agreements, sell/write-off financial investments and reconfigure networks.Jump to post
Dedicated Business class inside Europe is effectively dead. [...] As a user of business class intra-Europe I'd like to add that because of how horrible the pitch is I'm avoiding LH and BA. And for that reason I'm also avoiding connecting on long haul on LH and BA. On both of those airlines there is...Jump to post
This assessment is not even close to accurate. DL has the massive ATL hub. Atlanta is one of the largest metro areas in the US. DL also has a hub at BOS, which is almost the same size as SFO/DFW. DTW is also a large metro and DL has a large presence in SEA. Major DL Ops in JFK, LGA, LAX, BOS, ATL, ...Jump to post
A successful airline’s network is much more complicated and driven by an insane amount of data and analytics than the OP’s comparison of hub locations to top eight metro areas. Networks are built to not only consider hubs with large O&D traffic but also draw from the surrounding region, geograph...Jump to post
If you are counting VS/DL US flights as one at LHR, shouldn’t you count BA/AA LHR ops the same way? We could, but I think we all know AA/BA data would clearly be far ahead of DL/VS and UA. The OP stated, However, DL has far less daily departure from LHR than what AA and UA have. The real comparison...Jump to post
Even without VS, DL is clearly the overall winner with 48 flights. The only airport that DL really is lacking to is FRA, but then UA only has 9 flights there itself, even less than what DL has at LHR. If it wasn't for the JV/part-ownership of VS, DL would most likely have a few more flights at LHR,...Jump to post
First I think we need some data. How many flights LHR-USA are flown by: - AA - DL - DL+VS - UA AA: 21 daily: (4x JFK, 4x ORD, 4x DFW, 2x PHL, 2x CLT, 2x LAX, 1x MIA, 1x RDU, 1x PHX) VS: 17 daily: (6x JFK, 2x BOS, 2x LAX, 2x SFO, 1x EWR, 1x IAD, 1x ATL, 1x LAS, 1x SEA) UA: 17 daily: (5x EWR, 3x IAD,...Jump to post
It's a cramped 787. Not fun on a 10 hour flight in economy. Cramped is up to the carrier. Every KL long-haul aircraft is going to be cramped. They think this style fits their market. Compare it to ANA's 215-seat 787-9. https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/ANA/ANA_Boeing_787-9_V2.php V1 and V2 look nic...Jump to post
Great stuff, indeed. That's a fantastic virtual walk through! A few questions: 1. The 787 cockpit has four windows. Is it any less restricted in viewing than other aircraft with more windows? Are there regulations that govern the minimum viewing area outside from the cockpit? The 787 has great cock...Jump to post
As we know, LHR is a OW hub. But, some *A members such as UA and AC still have more flights to LHR compare to other *A hub in Europe like FRA. However, DL has far less daily departure from LHR than what AA and UA have. I know the close relationship between DL and AF/KL with JV, will we see DL addin...Jump to post
The length of the rows is different. This configuration seats most people with standard seat pitch for economy and comfort. Actually I misstated the number of Economy Comfort seats. - Two rows on the left = 6 - Five rows in the center section = 15 - Two rows on the right = 6 - Total Economy Comfort...Jump to post
The Economy Comfort layout is odd. 2 rows left and right and 5 rows in the center section. Why did KL choose this configuration? Why not three rows left, center, right? This would have yielded 27 vs 24 seats. Is KL not confident it can sell an additional 3 Economy Comfort seats? The length of the r...Jump to post
does anyone know what those 3 ceiling blue translucent "sheets" are in the front of the Y cabin? Movable cabin “dividers” to indicate the border between normal economy and economy comfort. A bit more legroom, you can see the offset between rows in the middle and window sides as well, and ...Jump to post
That's a fantastic virtual walk through! A few questions: 1. The 787 cockpit has four windows. Is it any less restricted in viewing than other aircraft with more windows? Are there regulations that govern the minimum viewing area outside from the cockpit? 2. This cockpit had two well outfitted jumps...Jump to post
One argument I haven’t seen here that’s not about pax capacity or range is the trend for frequency, i.e., three flight per day ABC-XYZ vs one flight. Correct me if I’m incorrect. It’s interesting that DL doesn’t have a need for the 77W like AA and UA. Their 777’s are configured 3-3-3 in Y not for pa...Jump to post
I’m not a nervous flyer but I am mildly claustrophobic. I always fly F/J on long haul international. I definitely prefer a wide body. While I have plenty of personal space on a 757 or 777 to Europe, for example, the larger cabin of a wide body aircraft makes for a calmer environment for me. With tha...Jump to post
PacoMartin wrote:Dieuwer wrote:I thought they bought AM hoping to build on Asian traffic to Mexico City and connecting through to the capitals of South America. I don't think they were as interested in USA to small airports in Mexico.
I’ve always been a fan of boarding through 2L on the 757, especially when I get to turn left. However what a passenger prefers and an airline prefers can be very different.
Did airlines believe 2L/R on the 757 and 321 were an inefficient use of space?
Are people so gullable? This is pretty much what United started doing... Basically it's taking what they've done for the most part already and deconstructing it. So what you have instead of getting the pig with the lipstick already on, the lipstick comes after you've received the pig. I'm prefer De...Jump to post
...none of this would've been possible under NW - due to AFA contracts. I am intrigued by your critical comments about DAL's new INTL service standards that you might not be one of the thousands of AFA's who fought NW at every juncture - and hundreds who still do - because it required a little more...Jump to post
Since a lot of corporate international flyers have to fly Y, does DL’s ability to demonstrate a more desirable Y experience (real or perceived) have any impact on its ability to sign more corporate contracts? Wouldn't know, but why would corporate contracts worry about minor (in the grand scheme of...Jump to post
USAirALB wrote:...pax are looking at the menus...
If they bring back meals on domestic flights and not charge for baggage, they will be a top carrier in the world! How are you measuring “top carrier in the world”? DL makes a ton of money from baggage fees. It’s easy money. If they give it up they’d have to find revenue from elsewhere to make up fo...Jump to post
How is DL letting their J product fall behind? Not disputing, just would like some examples. Thanks! -No premium lounges -Soft product stagnant to degrading (particularly domestic D1) -Very slow J seat replacement process -New 767 J seats will remain bottom tier Strange to see them focus on the Y p...Jump to post
MSPNWA wrote:What I'm finding interesting is how DL is focused on the Y product and largely letting the J product fall behind their closest competitors.
No doubt these changes were all made in a cost neutral way. Why is there no doubt? You've seen the financials at the very highest levels of the organization? Do you have specific, sourced information stating Delta is spending more money on Main Cabin catering? Of course not. Hint: If Delta was spen...Jump to post
Its fascinating to me to see airlines slowly but consistently, year after year, put back in all the things they took out when they were hemorrhaging money during the lean years. This is ALL window dressing. During the next economic downturn all of this will be the first to go. For example: In an ef...Jump to post
Let's take a look at how this differs from the current international main cabin offerings : 1. Bellini service replaces the first full beverage service that came with cocktail snacks. So if you want a diet coke or a gin and tonic, you're gonna have to wait for the beverage cart that accompanies the...Jump to post
9w748capt wrote:Dougie must be fuming! DL will force his hand into actually investing in LCC's product now. Horrible day for him.
American 767 wrote:US Air flew CLT-SFO nonstop on the 727. Here is a video:
Why were the cabin lights on during takeoff? And why would they be on if it’s a ferry flight?Jump to post
What’s a ballpark figure as to how many aircraft VS would have to order to utilize 150 slots? If they're out AND back slots? 75 at a minimum not accounting for airplanes in checks, repair etc. More like 80. All depends on the split of long haul and short/medium hall. A narrowbody will utilize far m...Jump to post
Is there a reason that they can't push to turn Gatwick into their hub and grow from there? Will business traffic not go there? NYC United's hub is EWR and everyone else uses JFK. Can't there be something similar for London? If LGW’s geographic placement was similar to EWR’s proximity to demand from...Jump to post
What’s a ballpark figure as to how many aircraft VS would have to order to utilize 150 slots?Jump to post
FlyHappy wrote:I've flown countless times over many decades and I would not know that I I could find a flashlight above FA jumpseat, that's obvious only to you professionals.
"I haven't got much sleep since the reoccurring night terrors and waking up anxious and afraid I'm alone locked up someplace dark," Clearly oriented by some jail door low profile lawyer to get some AC money. Of course she couldn’t just find humor in the situation, have a good laugh and ap...Jump to post
The role of SLC could also be changing as the new terminal/facilities are upgraded/expanded. A more effective, optimized asset in the network could flow more Asia-bound traffic through SLC. Why would they do this when they have SEA/MSP/DTW? It's not like SLC and the surrounding area has a ton of PD...Jump to post