Funny, even though I know San Francisco well, not until this thread did I think about OAK being a better location for a trip to the wine country. I am headed to Napa next month and OAK is 9 miles closer to wine country than SFO but I am flying UA to SFO. That said, the only non-stop from Chicago is...
Jump to postFunny, even though I know San Francisco well, not until this thread did I think about OAK being a better location for a trip to the wine country. I am headed to Napa next month and OAK is 9 miles closer to wine country than SFO but I am flying UA to SFO. That said, the only non-stop from Chicago is...
Jump to postAnd SFO is located in an entirely different county from San Francisco. https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/04/10/san-mateo-county-opposes-oakland-airport-name-change/ Although SFO is technically part of San Francisco, it is located in San Mateo County, which receives the most economic benefit from SFO...
Jump to postAnd SFO is located in an entirely different county from San Francisco. https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/04/10/san-mateo-county-opposes-oakland-airport-name-change/ Although SFO is technically part of San Francisco, it is located in San Mateo County, which receives the most economic benefit from SFO...
Jump to postlol yes SFO actually somewhat prefers the status quo, wherein they get to monopolize the use of the well-known name of the center city and the region. If another airport also uses that name, some travelers might go there instead of SFO, which would be bad for SFO. If they're so worried about confus...
Jump to postThe Oakland Port Commisioners approved OAK’s name change today to “San Francisco Bay Oakland International Airport.” Source: https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/oakland-airport-moves-forward-with-name-change/ According to the article: The reason for the change is to increase visibility for the airp...
Jump to postThe Oakland Port Commisioners approved OAK’s name change today to “San Francisco Bay Oakland International Airport.” Source: https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/oakland-airport-moves-forward-with-name-change/ According to the article: The reason for the change is to increase visibility for the airpo...
Jump to postSan Mateo County now opposes OAK’s proposal: https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/04/10/san-mateo-county-opposes-oakland-airport-name-change/ From the article: The five-member San Mateo County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously this week to oppose a plan by the Port of Oakland to officially change t...
Jump to postIs the gate where the VS 789 was parked the same as the gate with the VS aircraft to the left in this photo (next to an AA aircraft): https://www.flickr.com/photos/69514786@N05/18625924502 If so, how is the aircraft supposed to be properly towed out? 1. Back out of gate, rotate aircraft 90 degrees ...
Jump to postIs the gate where the VS 789 was parked the same as the gate with the VS aircraft to the left in this photo (next to an AA aircraft): https://www.flickr.com/photos/69514786@N05/18625924502 If so, how is the aircraft supposed to be properly towed out? 1. Back out of gate, rotate aircraft 90 degrees c...
Jump to postWell, that's that..............Next post. San Francisco Bay beef: Keep our name out of your airport, SFO tells Oakland https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2024/04/04/oakland-airport-name-change-san-francisco-bay/73200742007/ From the article: Port Commissioners are set to consider the name modifi...
Jump to postAlaska Airlines jumped in: On Tuesday, Alaska Airlines, which serves all Bay Area airports offering commercial service, joined the opposition to the name change. “We believe a name change to the proposed ‘San Francisco Bay Oakland International Airport’ could cause confusion and potential inconvenie...
Jump to postZiyulu wrote:Do you think they will keep the OAK airport code?
SFO officially protests: >>SFO Expresses Serious Concerns Over Oakland International Airport's Proposed Renaming Effort Airport anticipates customer confusion, especially abroad SAN FRANCISCO – April 1, 2024 – The San Francisco International Airport (SFO) expressed serious concerns over a proposed ...
Jump to postOakland could have the best transfers to the Amtrak station, with connections and dozens of stops going to LA, Chicago, and Seattle. Admittedly not a major factor, but why should a 15 minute car ride to the major RR station take and hour and a half with many transfers? A small subsidy and a $10 tic...
Jump to postIsn't Oakland airport actually closer to downtown SF? I heard that somewhere. When using “the shortest distance between two points is a straight line” yes. Logistically, no. Crossing the Bay Bridge can be time consuming with traffic and toll. The airport train to BART is time consuming with change ...
Jump to postHere we go again. https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/oakland-airport-considers-adding-san-francisco-bay-to-name/ From the article: The ultimate goal is to add more direct flights, particularly international routes, to the airport. Are there any examples of an airport rebranding and thus obtaining n...
Jump to postPartner with whoever designs uniforms for Air France, KLM and / or Virgin. Their uniforms look sharp and stylish. Why do US carriers always buy cheap looking and fitting uniforms from the likes of Lands End or now The Gap. The Gap is fine for jeans and t-shirts but for an airline that always talks ...
Jump to postIn the first few years of DL's acquisition of Pan Am's TATL network out of JFK, it kept the majority of the Pan Am JFK network intact, but that quickly began to change around 1994 when the decision was made to remove the A310s and replace them with B767-300ERs. A lot of the Eastern Europe nonstops ...
Jump to postVery chilly reception from employees. Will be interesting to see how much re-work is done before Delta rolls out these uniforms. Why on earth would Delta select The Gap which struggles getting the public to buy their clothes across their brands? (Yes, I know GPS Apparel is a division of the parent ...
Jump to postThe questions needs more context. OP is talking about a time frame that's unrealistically long: 1991 to 2024. Things change- maybe profitable one day, the next day no. As for Riyadh, IIRC that was last served with TWA? In the first few years of DL's acquisition of Pan Am's TATL network out of JFK, ...
Jump to postWhy is this Delta aircraft painted dark blue?
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Which terminal would SAS use at JFK? T1 or T4? Any major switch between EWR and JFK would likely come about over time as potential losses in revenue (EWR) are weighed against potential revenue gains (JFK). I wouldn’t be surprised to see SAS use both EWR and JFK for some time. What are the growth opp...
Jump to postI had an unexplainable infatuation with the white L-1011 with the word Whisperliner on the tail engine. Even wrote a letter to Airjet Advance models in Miami to see about ordering a model. But at the time around '82 '83 they did not manufacturer it :( I have an infatuation with the word Ionosphere....
Jump to postSpend some time around the gate/counter next time an AF flight is leaving from a Delta hub and I'll guarantee you'll hear more than one passenger vocalize how they were "unaware" they were flying Air France and are confused/unsure/angry/etc. What? No way. This has to be an exaggeration. I...
Jump to postN717TW wrote:Spend some time around the gate/counter next time an AF flight is leaving from a Delta hub and I'll guarantee you'll hear more than one passenger vocalize how they were "unaware" they were flying Air France and are confused/unsure/angry/etc.
Delta might need this flight for a corporate contract… I know companies have corporate contracts for specific routes. But to start a new route… for a corporate contract? Even in the PDX-NRT/HND example, it was not just Nike. That is a lot of Y and J volume a company would have to commit to for an a...
Jump to postWhen Eastern Air Lines introduced the 757 into its fleet, 757 was on the tail. In this photo, https://www.airliners.net/photo/-/-/7521679/L , it appears 757 was later changed, or later deliveries reverted back, to the standard Eastern Air Lines livery. However, there is a difference. On non-757 air...
Jump to postAll the cheat lines started their upward slant at or aft of the rearmost door. Because of the way the B757 was built, to follow the typical angle up the front to middle of the tail would have required starting the upward slant well before the rearmost door. Thank you. The cheat line does not appear...
Jump to postWhen Eastern Air Lines introduced the 757 into its fleet, 757 was on the tail. In this photo, https://www.airliners.net/photo/-/-/7521679/L , it appears 757 was later changed, or later deliveries reverted back, to the standard Eastern Air Lines livery. However, there is a difference. On non-757 air...
Jump to postHow was this NOT caught? Does the gate system not check for duplicate use of the same boarding pass? Wouldn’t the gate agent managing boarding receive an error message? Wouldn’t an error message trigger an investigation into why a boarding pass was used twice? Why are lavs not checked as the aircraf...
Jump to postI think they're a mixed bag. Lots of negative feedback on the town hall chat. As expected, purple is gone, in favor of more classic reds and blues. The blue looks more fully aligned with the blue in the brand. It is a bit greener than navy—closer to cyan than purple. The red is not bright, but it's...
Jump to postWas anything else announced? Title thread states, “and services.” Any additional news on the new cabin design?
Jump to postOn March 20th , Delta will unveil the prototypes of a new uniform for In-flight and ground services. New pilot uniforms are also in the works but will be revealed at a later date. New uniforms, new cabin interiors, the opening of dedicated Delta1 lounges, and being awarded 'Airline of The Year-2024...
Jump to postWhen Eastern Air Lines introduced the 757 into its fleet, 757 was on the tail. In this photo, https://www.airliners.net/photo/-/-/7521679/L , it appears 757 was later changed, or later deliveries reverted back, to the standard Eastern Air Lines livery. However, there is a difference. On non-757 air...
Jump to postWhen Eastern Air Lines introduced the 757 into its fleet, 757 was on the tail. In this photo, https://www.airliners.net/photo/-/-/7521679/L , it appears 757 was later changed, or later deliveries reverted back, to the standard Eastern Air Lines livery. However, there is a difference. On non-757 airc...
Jump to postIf I were DL, I would have launched TPE from DTW as opposed to SEA. There is still significant demand in the East and South of the US to TPE and they would have to lay of the land as opposed to being in a four way race where they are certain to finish in 4th place. After all, SEA-TPE O&D is abo...
Jump to postNor does SEA have the gate space for DL to create a mega TPAC hub. Why can't they just build more gates then? It's really not that easy given the land they have and who is going to pay for it? This is where having AS as a partner would have come in handy vs the redundancy of DL having to provide a ...
Jump to postIn hindsight, the current state of this route is really making me question why Delta was so against trying PDX-HND, or even bidding another city (JFK, 2nd DTX/ATL, BOS, SLC, hell, even SFO). Sure, this route has the potential to succeed, but with the amount of capacity that's popping up in such a s...
Jump to postAsiana Cargo purchasing two ex China Airlines 747-400Fs along with leasing two other 747 freighters to make the sale of the cargo division more attractive for future owners. https://cargofacts.com/allposts/carriers/asiana-to-purchase-2-production-747-400fs-lease-2-more Since Asiana already has offe...
Jump to postDL's flight time makes it clear that they are doing this flight to feed their US network only and they are not that interested in TPE point of sale, or connection beyond TPE. Actually I would argue they are looking for both US and TPE point of sale; it’s only traffic beyond TPE that they are not in...
Jump to postCI and DL aren’t terribly close despite being alliance partners, I think it’s telling that both airlines’ press releases announcing TPE-SEA makes no mention of the other. They do interline/codeshare with each other, though CI’s late SEA departure time and DL’s late arrival time in TPE (9 pm startin...
Jump to postThe tweet says China Airlines will resume SEA-TPE service. When did they last operate this route? The Skyteam member last served Seattle between April 2004 and August 2008… https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240312-cijul24sea I would not characterize that as “resuming” service. China Airlines is re-ent...
Jump to postDL will last 1 year max. If they gave up on LAX-LHR this quickly I’m sure they won’t have much patience for this either. As I have said many times on a.net, just because something works for UA internationally doesn’t mean it will work for others. In this case, UA has SFO, the crown jewel of TPAC. M...
Jump to post... changing the cabin interiors and uniforms seems to be an incomplete rebranding. ... and unnecessary at that? I wouldn’t suggest unnecessary simply because we are not privy to the data, choices being proposed and the insiders’ view of the business strategy. If we had that more complete picture w...
Jump to postLooks like the belt has a widget facing "up" - similar to the interior 757 renderings. Tend to think that would lead to a livery change... What if all stayed the same, but the addition of a large upward widget near/over the boarding door? The end of the tilted widget has been rumored for ...
Jump to postIs Delta using a known designer? Or a vendor designer? GPS Uniforms, a division of the company that owns Banana Republic, Gap, and Old Navy. Hoping they lean more towards Banana Republic designs, and less towards Old Navy, especially if Delta wants to have that "premium" vibe. I think Lan...
Jump to postI don't really agree about the purple thing being premium. It seemed like that was some blip on the marketing worlds radar that's now come and gone. I always thought the clash with the brand was odd. A blue and red airline, but with purple also? Never made much sense to me. Yet the cabin crews in P...
Jump to postSo...will there be any revised and updated livery? I assume DL can definitely do a better one comparing to the current design... Bigger DELTA text is all you get these days I don’t think DL would or should change their livery. For many years DL didn’t really have a consistent image - they had the 6...
Jump to postHow exactly does this happen? The 777 wheel seems to have about 20 "lug nuts" (for lack of the technical term) attaching the wheel to the main landing gear. Does it break at the main gear itself? I have this question also. How often are they checked? Are they included in the pilot’s pre-f...
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