How are articles like this passed off as news anymore?
Just more clickbait journalism.
I’ve always thought a few select JFK-SFO reverse red eyes could work. Depart JFK at 150am, 5.5 hour flight, 6 hour block. Arrive SFO at ~5am. You’ve slept a decent amount. Your brain thinks it’s 8... I think it could work with a good lie flat product. Clearly airlines disagree, but I would use a rou...Jump to post
scbriml wrote:BlatantEcho wrote:So there was a failure 3x at what is ever expected in the most extreme real life situation ever.
Why is this stuff news?
How do you get 3X? Ultimate load is 1.5X expected maximum in-service load.
So there was a failure 3x at what is ever expected in the most extreme real life situation ever.
Why is this stuff news?
Hi Eielef- This is good information, thank you. I was trying to fly DSS-NKC-DSS, and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work. It sounds like they are flying a more circular routing, so the back and forth is not an option. I hope to fly Mauritania airlines sometime next year on one of these sectors ...Jump to post
This isn't really intended as a criticism of Kaitak personally, but implied in this sentence is the binary, us-vs-them discourse that has completely eroded sensible debate in the past decade or so. I would identify as both a "defender" of aviation and also someone who has strong enough vi...Jump to post
^^^ it's nice to see the LHR flight start earlier than last year (even a few weeks) Somewhat related.... was looking at a quick last minute trip to Spain (ALC) in 10 days.... DL lists most of the PDX-AMS D1 seats as sold out. For PDX-AMS, it shows 2 left, at $15,000 each way. Assuming Nike is still ...Jump to post
Schedules just updated on Delta.com. Looks like PDX-AMS will go A332 when PDX-HND starts. Aircraft will route PDX-HND-PDX-AMS- and so forth. How many seats is this lost to PDX-AMS? It was always going to be tricky for them to rotate the -200 when it was the only one flying from any city to HND for ...Jump to post
Prost wrote:If you live in the Seattle area you probably have one in your backyard.
I never claimed there would be book-away due to the seating arrangements on the 787. I just said that a lot of passengers would be unhappy. When I was in French Polynesia, I saw 0 tourist kids. I agree that's just my personal observation, but like I can't find any evidence to prove that the majorit...Jump to post
Yes, 2-4-2 you can nice and evenly fit 4 couples across the aircraft 3-3-3 you fit 3 couples and have 3 random seats. When I went there our flights LAX-PPT (mid-October trip) both ways seemed like 80-90% couples. I can’t tell if you are just trolling everyone or trying to be serious with an absurdi...Jump to post
Why? That would be downright horrible. What is it with these ultra long range flights and everyone thinking they’re great? They suck! SYD/MEL - LAX is horrible enough. Now that you often end up in a little 787. - Boeing’s worst effort. I usually go via AKL then to LAX. And even that is horrible eno...Jump to post
^^^ Ha. That’s PDX757. D-ABUE was the reg. I’ve flown condor once before on the route. It is my last choice, but it was fine. I can’t get from Portugal not far Eastern Europe to AMS well to connect on DL which is my preference. I still don’t know why they don’t push everything back 2 hours to accomm...Jump to post
^^^ Scared is a bit strong. I live here, and certainly if you have other options why not go to Singapore, Taipei, or Bangkok instead? Since the bill's withdrawal, it has certainly calmed down, but even last week Central Station was set fire too. Imagine staying in a hotel in Central, and you are mo...Jump to post
Interesting. Have two trips to Hong Kong coming up for tourism/fun.
Haven’t had a single concern or thought once about not going. It’s interesting what scares people these days - or, perhaps, let’s them justify their own fears.
Love the city and the food, can’t wait to go back.
^^^ Yeah, you wonder if they would add 2x daily to BOI/SJC/GEG or something like that to draw more traffic to the long hauls. I mean, with a hub in SEA, it seems super strange to do that. But, they seem to have a good thing going here. Them adding LAS was about the least likely thing I imagined, but...Jump to post
PDX-LAS on Delta. That’s pretty strange.
Non hub route. And isn’t sun country starting this?
Wonder where that came from.
I keep thinking AS could route more traffic through PDX that doesn’t need to waste seats out of SEA While a hub benefits from critical mass... if AS connection Medford-Portland-London instead of via Seattle. That frees up seats and assets for Medford-Seattle-kelowna or whatever doesn’t have a nonsto...Jump to post
I spent some time in Sri Lanka in 2017. Drove all around the island for a week. I didn’t see why people are so into it. Is it because it is far away from most things? It’s one of the few places in the world I’ve been that I have zero desire to ever return to. My friend with me felt the same. I would...Jump to post
Interesting. BA at PDX has been a no brainer for years. Perfect 788 market. That said, BA would be target not just O&D but a lot of connections. Delta goes after O&D almost completely. So even though the roles here are normally reversed....I could see a strange world where both flights co-ex...Jump to post
What exactly could the state government do to regulate what airlines were successful or not?
Are you suggesting they could give preferential treatment to one airline and discriminate against another US airline?
Yes. It definitely goes through HND. That was part of Delta’s application with DOT. It would make sense in winter- pdx-ams upgauges to a332 as well. Then they can route it and-pdx-hnd-pdx-ams. In summer, it’s more confusing as they just said pdx-lhr will be 767-400ER with the new suites. Sooo, we’ll...Jump to post
Something I found encouraging regarding the DL Portland to London nonstop is the aircraft up-gauge to the newly configured Delta B767-400 (enhanced Delta One offering). The Delta app shows an A332 in 2020. -- Yeah, I'm looking to book June 2020 currently, and it's showing A332 still. Hopefully that...Jump to post
^^^ $3.5k return for coach?! Who on earth pays that on a ten hour flight. Don’t you mean for Comfort or Delta One? Cheers The Lion That's what we want to see actually. High fares, mostly full planes. That allows Delta to justify the service and expand it in the future. $3500 r/t is steep, but, clos...Jump to post
I saw a TAP A321 on Flightradar24 approaching EWR a few weeks ago (from OPO).
I realized it was a new era upon us. This is going to continue what the 787 started. More and more point to point routes. It’s awesome and inspiring to see.
So it is standard practice for Boeing to start building airplanes destined to customers even before the prototype makes its first flight?
Any chance DL or KE will start PDX-ICN? I've been arguing this route is needed for the last 18 months or so. United pulls a lot of fliers PDX-SFO-XXX and all the asian carriers at YVR and SEA pull traffic... but it's the secondary cities in Asia are where things break down. I guess the question is,...Jump to post
Nope, not with Alaska there Which has what, exactly to do with the question? Delta is in Seattle for the long haul it seems. With the city growing rapidly, it seems infrastructure is the main constraint. Aside from Osaka (which seemed like a token offering when they pulled HKG), the network is pret...Jump to post
^^^ true. And yet here we are talking about the route... I'm doing a trip to Cape Verde in January. Want to fly Cabo Verde, but, the 1x-3x a week service they had to most places doesn't work for me. So, flying Air Senegal from Dakar and TAP up to Lisbon. Wish I could have tried them, but, not the ea...Jump to post
Yeah, there is likely a very low chance of DL starting SEA-SYD. Anyone who wants to go to SYD can route via LAX. But, with the closure of NRT... I could see SIN at least (and maybe....MNL) from SEA being possible. Delta might even lose money on those routes for a bit themselves, just to provide the ...Jump to post
Walsh has every right to buy whatever he wants. I plan to fly other carriers until there’s enough statistical evidence that the jets are safe. Lol. That’s like the guy on here last year that said the 737NG was too new, and he was waiting for them to be proven.... I don’t think anyone sane is going ...Jump to post