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by ssteve
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada 33 Diverted to HNL Due to Turbulence
Replies: 7
Views: 2934

Re: Air Canada 33 Diverted to HNL Due to Turbulence

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=yvr-syd

Guess that's why it was near Hawaii.
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YVR-SYD http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=yvr-syd

Guess that's why it was near Hawaii.

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by ssteve
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta announces MD-90 retirement deadline - end 2022
Replies: 99
Views: 12182

Re: Delta announces MD-90 retirement deadline - end 2022

Allegiant should snap these up. :duck:

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by ssteve
Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:20 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: B-36 Question
Replies: 25
Views: 3158

Re: B-36 Question

viewtopic.php?t=769743
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Relevant Anet topic:
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by ssteve
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC Passenger left on plane at remote stand at YYZ
Replies: 128
Views: 19140

Re: AC Passenger left on plane at remote stand at YYZ

ojjunior wrote:
"I haven't got much sleep since the reoccurring night terrors and waking up anxious and afraid I'm alone locked up someplace dark,"

Clearly oriented by some jail door low profile lawyer to get some AC money.


Or, watched the Langoliers movie at an impressionable age.

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by ssteve
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA Will Now Hold Flights for Connects
Replies: 68
Views: 9843

Re: UA Will Now Hold Flights for Connects

Does this apply to UA's regional carriers? Nothing like stewing on a mobile lounge at IAD to deal with the completely uncaring folks from Air Wisconsin or whomever the low bidder was that month...

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by ssteve
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1978 vintage 737-200 suffers uncontained engine failure
Replies: 20
Views: 3985

Re: 1978 vintage 737-200 suffers uncontained engine failure

bennett123 wrote:
They did park YV-295T and YV-302T in 2018. It is possible that they could take an engine from one of them.


Well, good thing it's in the Caribbean. Plenty of cigars available for purchase.

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by ssteve
Fri May 24, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official Amazon Hub groundbreaking at CVG
Replies: 17
Views: 2817

Re: Official Amazon Hub groundbreaking at CVG

Why would Amazon plan to build their 1.5 Billion facility adjacent to the DHL CVG hub ? If Amazon are intending to maximise competitive advantage , then would this not indicate either a hostile takeover or a friendly merger , the likes of which will shake the logistics market worldwide ? I don't se...

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by ssteve
Sun May 19, 2019 2:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Greater Seattle Airport
Replies: 111
Views: 11703

Re: New Greater Seattle Airport

The stupid, it hurts.

Because airport operations are moderately difficult, let's build HSR to the desert. Not other airports like PDX and YVR.

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by ssteve
Mon May 13, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: China threats Boeing to punish for Trump policy
Replies: 139
Views: 16388

Re: China threats Boeing to punish for Trump policy

It would be far cheaper for the US gov to use the proceeds of taxed Chinese goods to subsidize Boeing and other industries impacted by reduced Chinese imports. The US citizens paying Boeing for not delivering planes to China because of Trump's policies. Makes sense I guess. Or how about addressing ...

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by ssteve
Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 713640

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

AOA disagree is present on WN NGs, and was absent from the WN MAX until it dawned on someone after the Lion Air crash that it wasn't part of the WN package? Sheesh. I can see how that would be disturbing to, well, everyone. Or is it not on the NGs? Business Insider sort of implies that it is.

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by ssteve
Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 716302

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Personally, it wouldn't surprise me if this is nothing but more PR response from Foeing (FAA/Boeing). "Hey look, Boeing's not the only one with AOA sensor issues, not the only one with systems that push the nose down." The FAA is conspiring with Boeing to do it's job? Does that dovetail i...

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by ssteve
Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The largest aircraft in EGE!
Replies: 6
Views: 1917

Re: The largest aircraft in EGE!

https://vimeo.com/38113808


The is "The Google Jet" ? A VIP.

Would there really be much of a limit for VIP planes?
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airbazar wrote:


The is "The Google Jet" ? A VIP.

Would there really be much of a limit for VIP planes?

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by ssteve
Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: USAF Considering New Build F-15X
Replies: 705
Views: 67510

Re: USAF Considering New Build F-15X

Ozair wrote:
Is there a single comparison to that for combat aircraft across the USAF history?


The final U2 was delivered ~34 years after the first.

I suspect that sort of program longevity will become more common. They'll be delivering new F-35s when we're all dead of old age. :tombstone:

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by ssteve
Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 713640

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

You said “There is simply no way that the people putting it together were not aware they were making serious (and multiple) violations of FAR25 and DO-178b.” That’s what I said sounded like conjecture. What are those violations? I honestly don’t know, so your help is appreciated. I wonder, too. I d...

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by ssteve
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dual jet bridge boarding
Replies: 51
Views: 8243

Re: Dual jet bridge boarding

Southwest uses dual jetway boarding at Albany Intl. in NY That’s what I thought this thread was going to be about as well. Weird how you say dual boarding and upstate flyers think of Albany’s rear boarding bridges and the rest of the world is really just talking about two regular jet bridges. Thoug...

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by ssteve
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 713640

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

A baton was dropped. But organizationally I think they'll find a number of people who are strongly motivated to ensure holding the baton is never their job, and work on the assumption that someone else is carrying it.

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by ssteve
Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How do Airlines make money on airfares less than $100?
Replies: 74
Views: 14494

Re: How does United make money on airfares less than $100?

United is prohibiting basic economy customers from having carryons that don't fit under the seat, and charging to check carryon sized bags. What was strange to me when I flew this fare class recently, is that I was totally blocked from any sort of upgrade. Couldn't pay extra to change the seat assig...

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by ssteve
Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA plane flies to Scotland by mistake, should have been Germany
Replies: 115
Views: 24275

Re: BA plane flies to Scotland by mistake, should have been Germany

rbavfan wrote:
ssteve wrote:
BAe146 still flying scheduled service. I had no idea.


Still in service all over the world.


Yeah, I googled that. More than I'd have guessed, though not really at all in the US. I still picture them in red NW colors.

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by ssteve
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA plane flies to Scotland by mistake, should have been Germany
Replies: 115
Views: 24275

Re: BA plane flies to Scotland by mistake, should have been Germany

BAe146 still flying scheduled service. I had no idea.

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by ssteve
Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing committing economic suicide by opening China aircraft plants
Replies: 28
Views: 4097

Re: Airbus and Boeing committing economic suicide by opening China aircraft plants

More a symptom than a cause of why big US companies strangle themselves. They kill their own experienced workforces because they're expensive when viewed in the light of being extremely reluctant to invest in any capital-intensive project without huge guaranteed upside. But China is willing to inves...

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by ssteve
Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 713640

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

SurlyBonds wrote:
Absolutely this. The point of MCAS is that it was supposed to compensate for *fundamental flight instability* issues. Ponder that for a moment.


I have pondered. What's the threshold? The planes should be impossible to stall?

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by ssteve
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 716302

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

The great tragedy in the MCAS debacle is that it's a system that was designed to increase safety after the airframe reconfiguration increased the likelihood of stalls. I see this as #1, there's the assumption (cert. requirement?) that the plane must automate its way out of that situation, rather tha...

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by ssteve
Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service
Replies: 341
Views: 43021

Re: Southwest get final authorization from FAA to begin Hawaii service

barney captain wrote:
Except we aren't using the MAX for HI - we're using NG -800's.


They are ETOPs as well, though, right?

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by ssteve
Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 713640

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

ytz wrote:
Indeed. For all those who avoided grounding for days, this seems to be true.


And if you want to maximize safety, ground every type for every airworthiness directive from the time the problem is identified (whole fleet) through the time a solution is developed and every plane of that type is fixed.

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by ssteve
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1,200+ flights cancelled at DEN
Replies: 42
Views: 9719

Re: 1,200+ flights cancelled at DEN

intotheair wrote:
Colorado weather is really much nicer than most people think for most of the time, but I do not miss living in those spring snowstorms.


Most people seem to think you’re all up in the mountains. Definitely you snowshoe to work 6 months of the year, and mine silver the other 6.

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by ssteve
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1727
Views: 385624

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Knowing nothing about automation in the 767, I could be convinced that the NTSB meant it was human input, or I could be convinced that they mean it's an input from another source. Not as clear as it could be. They are clear that the heading of 270 came from input to the ADS-B, and they are not clear...

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by ssteve
Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Could Add 500 Aircraft to it's Fleet
Replies: 115
Views: 21147

Re: Southwest Could Add 500 Aircraft to it's Fleet

500 planes of domestic flying produce about 1500 roundtrips. That's three new 500 departure hubs added to their network because many of their existing hubs can't grow much more (MDW/DAL/LAX/FLL). Where could they put three 500 departure hubs absent a merger? This is an honest question, not passive ...

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by ssteve
Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1727
Views: 385624

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Right, I'd really hope that never happens again. More just pointing out that, yeah, departure from controlled flight that suddenly does happen. MD jackscrew and 737 rudder hard-over etc.

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by ssteve
Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1727
Views: 385624

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

jetmatt777 wrote:
It must have been a tremendous and sudden force to change the angle that sudden, and one where the pilots couldn’t overcome.


In Lauda Air 004, a thrust reverser deployed in flight. That was tremendous and sudden.

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by ssteve
Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:18 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: A380 Biggest manufacturing loss in civil aviation to date?
Replies: 127
Views: 14153

Re: A380 Biggest manufacturing loss in civil aviation to date?

It's kind of like the Edsel, or New Coke. It transcends talking about airplanes (it is a neat airplane after all) and jumps into the pantheon of spectacular business failures. And so does the 787 supply chain.

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by ssteve
Tue Jan 29, 2019 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA responds to Frontier starting BTV-DEN, launches their own seasonal service
Replies: 71
Views: 7567

Re: UA responds to Frontier starting BTV-DEN, launches their own seasonal service

B737900ER wrote:
If you live in Colorado why on earth would you go to Vermont to ski? That’s like living in NY and going to Chicago for pizza.


The EPIC and IKON pass dynamics will go the other way. Stowe and Sugarbush passholders will go to Vail and Aspen.

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by ssteve
Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:21 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: USAF Considering New Build F-15X
Replies: 705
Views: 67510

Re: USAF Considering New Build F-15X

Just to put wikipedia numbers on things: "Prior to the launch the F-15 flying at Mach 1.22 executed a 3.8g zoom climb at an angle of 65 degrees."

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by ssteve
Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Official New Horizons Discussion Thread
Replies: 246
Views: 46126

Re: Official New Horizons Discussion Thread

Press conference at 1400 eastern US time will show closeup images.

Thing is shaped like a cooked turkey leg.

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by ssteve
Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Porter Airlines Cuts Burlington, VT
Replies: 32
Views: 5513

Re: Porter Airlines Cuts Burlington, VT

And all those that thought that this would be a viable route please stand up...….. Seemed viable to me, until I realized it was a Winter seasonal flight. Canadians have plenty of other places to ski besides Vermont. While I find myself surprised to ride the lifts with people from Ontario, they driv...

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by ssteve
Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Last MD-90 produced stored.
Replies: 76
Views: 14357

Re: Last MD-90 produced stored.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AerSale claims they have all been broken up... which would have introduced 50 more engines to the MD-90 market. That one shop in Christchurch could have quite the backlog.
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The Saudi MD-90s were acquired by AerSale. Wikipedia @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AerSale claims they have all been broken up... which would have introduced 50 more engines to the MD-90 market. That one shop in Christchurch could have quite the backlog.

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by ssteve
Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boom Supersonic corp unveils plan for 55-seat supersonic jet
Replies: 90
Views: 12927

Re: Boom Supersonic corp unveils plan for 55-seat supersonic jet

Wow, 50 years ago we made a 100 seater that could travel twice the speed of sound and now we struggle to make a 55 seater, that's evolution 50 years ago, the USA could build a spaceship, that could bring men to the moon and safely back home. Today they are not even able to bring people into low ear...

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by ssteve
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Couple in hot water over "Stupid" stunt at SXM
Replies: 44
Views: 9346

Re: Couple in hot water over "Stupid" stunt at SXM

kalvado wrote:
If this is within inches, then inspection of SXM fence should be performed as the plane definitely hit that fence


Within somewhere between 600 and 1200 inches.

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by ssteve
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SpiceJet interested in 737F
Replies: 6
Views: 1139

Re: SpiceJet interested in 737F

The 737-700C isn't on offer?

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by ssteve
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA F-100 Fleet
Replies: 39
Views: 5592

Re: AA F-100 Fleet

Archer wrote:
I lived near the Albany Airport (ALB) and observed them for quite a few years. I flew in several and was sad
when AA decided to sell them.


I also flew them out of Albany, which makes me wonder whether losing these planes had something to do with AA quitting Albany. Not worth upgaging.

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by ssteve
Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:04 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: James Webb Telescope Launch Delayed Until 2020
Replies: 29
Views: 2955

Re: James Webb Telescope Launch Delayed Until 2020

Yes, it's way off the rails. Shuttle likely way too big and too heavy with negatives far outweighing benefits. Plus the crew would have had no way back.

You can be sure the entertained all such ideas when they actually did decide to rehab the Leonardo MPLM into the PMM.

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by ssteve
Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Continental DC-10 routes to Hawaii in the 80's
Replies: 75
Views: 7333

Re: Continental DC-10 routes to Hawaii in the 80's

I fidgeted in the Pub seats as an 8 year old in 1988 to HNL.

Google "Polynesian Pub" and there are decent marketing images.

My hazy memories make me wonder whether they'd chopped it down to just the row of seats facing the bar and the bar itself by 1988.

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by ssteve
Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing looking at 777F conversion program (again)
Replies: 28
Views: 4284

Re: Boeing looking at 777F conversion program (again)

There simply is no cost effective way of upgrading the floor for a pax 777 to freighter load limits. Several proposals have been fielded for conversion with the same floor, but the load bearing is quite simply unattractive. This invalidates the business case for potential buyers, and thus they have...

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by ssteve
Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vote to split California will move to ballot - Impact on Aviation?
Replies: 38
Views: 10310

Re: Vote to split California will move to ballot - Impact on Aviation?

PSA's intrastate routes are doomed! The federal regulators will have their say now.

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by ssteve
Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery
Replies: 1690
Views: 155301

Re: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery

As the article noted, Boeing Commercial generates almost three times as much revenue as Defense, Space and Security and more than four times what Global Services does. Richard Aboulafia noted that if Boeing is going to focus resources somewhere, it will be in Commercial programs (MAX, 787, 777X). H...

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by ssteve
Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas proposes amenities in the cargo hold for ultra long flights
Replies: 76
Views: 12927

Re: Alan Joyce floats the idea of "Cargo class"

WassbiKhalifa wrote:
L-1011's had a downstairs galley with two elevators to move the carts up and down. It was pretty cool.


PSA L-1011s had a lounge forward of the galley, accessible from interior stairs and with a door+airstairs for exterior access.

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by ssteve
Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United 1175 - Engine Cowling Fails
Replies: 110
Views: 29358

Re: United 1175 - Engine Cowling Fails

B737900ER wrote:
na wrote:

No way I´d fly on a Twin over the open Pacific.

Your options are extremely limited if that’s truly the case.


Nah, just charter one of the last few DC-8s. That's safer than a twin, right?

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by ssteve
Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WSJ: Amazon to Launch Delivery Service That Would Vie With FedEx, UPS
Replies: 92
Views: 10025

Re: WSJ: Amazon to Launch Delivery Service That Would Vie With FedEx, UPS

My perspective is different: I've been a customer since 1996 and I've been wondering why it's taking so long for some people to catch on. I was a customer since half.com days where I sold my textbooks. So, I guess I’ve seen, and used it for 21 years Half.com was acquired by eBay, though yeah, it wa...

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by ssteve
Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing laid off too many engineers and technicians
Replies: 107
Views: 18715

Re: Boeing laid off too many engineers and technicians

But at the end of the day, quarter, year, decade, and half century, Boeing's results speak for themselves -- their management has demonstrated the knowledge and ability to successfully run a company. They've lost market share. In that light, increasing earnings just means they're extracting value f...

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by ssteve
Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Freighter Conversion Up in 2017
Replies: 26
Views: 2429

Re: Freighter Conversion Up in 2017

http://www.aeronautical-engineers.com/p ... let-md-80/

MD-80s might be more readily available if you don't need a 737.
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kitplane01 wrote:
I'm surprised anyone is converting MD-80s. I would think that a 737 would be able to do more at the same running cost.


http://www.aeronautical-engineers.com/p ... let-md-80/

MD-80s might be more readily available if you don't need a 737.

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by ssteve
Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:54 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Fighter jet costs per hour are quite variable...
Replies: 23
Views: 3776

Re: Fighter jet costs per hour are quite variable...

If you need to maintain a force to get "air superiority" then it's a bit of an opportunity cost to then insist that force be parked and not utilized so that the "cheap" assets can take over. To a huge extent first world nations are buying these planes and keeping forces at the re...

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