I’ve always been amazed at the speed with which the DC 7s and L-1649 propeller airliners were withdrawn from service when jets came in. Did AA, UA, and TWA make any money on them? I realize they were fiercely competitive on coast to coast routes and to Europe (for TWA) but I wonder how quickly they...Jump to post
What year did American and United retire their Douglas DC-7s from passenger service and kept a few but were converted to cargo use
into the mid 1960s.They kept their DC-6s for shorter routes until the Boeing 737 and BAC 111 came in the late 1960s.Delta kept their
DC-7s til 1968.
Looking at timetables by January 1959 all TWA International flights to Europe were all Lockheed 1649A Super Constellations aka Jetstreams.Then in 1960 Boeing 707s came on the scene for overseas flights and at the end of 1961 all Trans Atlantic flights were all 707s with The 1649A did all cargo fligh...Jump to post
Prior to National pulling out of Tallahassee Florida their only route was was JAX-TLH and back to JAX.No way that could have been
a profitable route for National.
I have noticed in the late 1970s National Airlines had some odd routes where they served a city with a flight passing through one way but no vice versa.example MIA-MLB-TPA but no return the other way,Why would they do that? Philadelphia was another example a one way route through PHL but no return r...Jump to post
usflyer msp wrote:[photoid][/photoid]doulasc wrote:AT CMH AA has two non stops to PHX one leaves at 7AM and the other at 8AM.Why not a morning non stop and a afternoon non stop.
I see flights at 7am and 6pm.
AT CMH AA has two non stops to PHX one leaves at 7AM and the other at 8AM.Why not a morning non stop and a afternoon non stop.Jump to post
When the MD-80s first came out in 1979 the tail cones were pointed.Later on the MD 80s had the screwdriver shaped tail cone.When American Airlines started taking delivery of their MD-80s in 1983 were they delivered with the pointed tail cone,when did Mcdonnell Douglas switch to the screwdriver tail ...Jump to post
In 1961 TWA went all Boeing 707 Jets from the USA to Europe.I came across a few photos of TWA Constellations in Europe on Facebook that were after 1961.Did TWA keep some Lockheed Constellations in Europe for intra European routes to feed their Jet Traffic or possibility of a charter flight?Jump to post
In 1970 BOAC started Miami to London Non stop service (to replace the two stop MIA-NAS-BDA-LHR) with a Boeing 707(sometimes a Vickers VC-10). Then the route came open for bids for a US Air Carrier to bid for nonstop MIA-LHR authority.I heard Pan Am placed a bid.I discovered Braniff was interested in...Jump to post
It will be painted and polished for display at the Delta Flight Museum. As cool as it would be to have a flying example, that is simply not going to happen. This may very well be the last DC7B flight ever. :( Lets hope not,The DC-7B stranded in Charlotte may have a slim chance only if the right amo...Jump to post
CMHtraveler wrote:runner13 wrote:The last MD80 into BNA just landed.
Last MD80 into CMH just landed as well. Water cannon salute planned for its final return to DFW in about an hour. Good group of spotters on hand to say goodbye.
This fleet retirement seems to be getting a lot more fanfare than a lot of other recent big retirements. Seems to be bigger deal than when UA & DL retired the 744s a few years ago. In a weird way, everyone knows but isn't directly saying it, its the end of the old AA we all knew and loved that ...Jump to post
Again, MWAA knew all of this, and they in fact predicted it. The dynamic still holds true today (B6 isn't coming back to IAD anytime soon), the key difference has been UA's decision-making. IAD is still weaker than DCA on local domestic traffic. It seems to me that WN and B6 entered DCA limited. Un...Jump to post
I have always wondered why Braniff did not chose their Boeing 707-327Cs for their South Americam routes(aka LAD) rather than Douglas DC-8-62s.Braniff retired their 707s by 1973.I could only imagine if Braniff kept their 707-327Cs for their LAD they would have been upgraded in the wide body look cabi...Jump to post
In September the MD-80s will all be retired.Which aircraft will be next to leave the American Airlines fleet.The Boeing 757 and 767-323ERs have been slowly leaving the fleet
for several years as newer aircraft are being delivered.When is the 757 and 767s scheduled to be completely retired?
On June 19 2019 I was on JetBlue Flight 719 from JFK-ATL leaving at 259pm,The flight was scheduled to be a Airbus A320 but got a A321 instead and it was all coach seating.I thought A321s were used on longer flights.How often does a A321 fill in on a flight scheduled to be a A320 ? I was staying at t...Jump to post
JetBlue does not seem to be in a expanding mode.They are pulling out of DAB and people said the flights were always almost full.Also they are dropping BWI-FLL/MCO.How is JetBlue doing at PHL for their routes to BOS and FLL.I would like JetBlue to give CMH another try.They also dropped a few routes f...Jump to post
Does anyone know If the 1649A will be outside or inside once it gets reassembled at the TWA HotelJump to post
September11 wrote:I wish AA would have done just a few MD-80s in the new paint job. Jump to postI just think it is little crazy AA did not put new livery on MD80s.
How is Atlanta working out for JetBlue.I was planning in June of 2019 to attend AI2019 convention in Atlanta June 19-22 but first I wnat to fly to JFK and visit the new TWA Hotel.I would fly from CMH-JFK stay a few nights and fly from JFK-ATL,I wanted to fly JetBlue but I am finding for June 18 no J...Jump to post
A Lockheed 1649A Super Constellation in Auburn Maine is being taken apart and trucked to the TWA Hotel in front of JetBlue's Terminal 5 at JFK airport.It is already painted in TWA paint.Once it gets there what are the plans for the 1649A.static display,used as a cocktial lounge or restaurant?This St...Jump to post
I am wondering how is JetBlue doing at DAB and will MLB be a possibility for JetBlue in the future.Jump to post
doulasc I am sorry for all the sarcastic posts on here. I enjoy discussing the feasibility of air service to various communities and I don't see why people need to be so rude in commenting on your post. To answer your question, I don't think Portsmouth is an ideal location to start air service. It ...Jump to post
For a glance of Allegheny Airlines' service to Portsmouth (PHM), check out the following link: http://timetableimages.com/ttimages/us/al69/al69-15.jpg By that time, Allegheny (AL) had purchased Lake Central, and AL was flying Lake Central's old Nord 262s into PHM, with flights to CVG and Parkersbur...Jump to post
Portsmouth Ohio opened a new airport in 1957 near Minford ohio and Lake Central Airlines started service to the Ohio River town.In 1968 Allegheny Airlines bought Lake central and Allegheny served PHM until 1971 with only two flights to CVG. I am hearing that today a Hotel is being built at PHM and p...Jump to post
Pan Am never upgraded their 707s or 727-21s to the wide body look.In the USA American Airlines did their 707 fleet and someone told me Western upgraded their Boeing 707-347Cs.Pan Am,TWA and Nothwest orient did not.I am assuming Braniff and Continental did not as their 707s were retired before 1975.Jump to post
I hear there will be a Lockheed 1649A Super Constellation at the new TWA hotel at JFK.I hear it will be the one from Auburn Maine that was used for parts to restore one and I hear that one will be shipped to germany as restoration has ceased.The one that will go to JFK will it be the whole plane or ...Jump to post
I see Spirit has some planes still painted in the older paint jobs,The older gray and the blue and white which did not last long before Spirit switched to all Yellow.What is the repainting schedule like or are most the ones in the older paint job going to be retired from the fleet soon?Jump to post