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by redzeppelin
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20
Replies: 9
Views: 1196

Re: Boeing Dreamlifter expected in SLC 7/1/20

I just watched it turning from downwind leg onto final over West Jordan. Beautiful.

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by redzeppelin
Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

So when it opens, does everyone move over to the new gates and the old concourses, parking lot and terminal are quickly torn down? The old terminals and parking structure come down immediately. The original plan was that two of the old concourses would remain with a temporary connection to the new ...

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by redzeppelin
Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

New terminals look nice! I find it a bit bittersweet however. I have fond memories of the current soon to be old SLC even though they're not the most stylish, modern, or inviting. Agreed. I grew up in southern Idaho, but SLC was the local airport. I have fond (but increasingly faint) memories of ex...

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by redzeppelin
Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

https://www.slcairport.com/thenewslc/re ... s-gallery/
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Here is a recent aerial view from SLC website, looking northwest.. The structural work for Phase 1 is pretty much complete.

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source: https://www.slcairport.com/thenewslc/re ... s-gallery/

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by redzeppelin
Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

https://twitter.com/slcairport/status/1 ... 0101874689
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SLC twitter just posted this picture of a DL A321 being used for gate fitting tests on the new A concourse. Opening is less than 3 months away!
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Source:
https://twitter.com/slcairport/status/1 ... 0101874689

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by redzeppelin
Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airline airports at Panama in 1962?
Replies: 2
Views: 355

Re: Airline airports at Panama in 1962?

FWIW: Here is a fabulous old Pan Am route map. The legend says "Copyright 1956", but the fine print in the bottom margin says "Revised 2/64". The host website says that this edition shows route updates as of 1 Jan 1963. The map simply shows "Panama City." My first insti...

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by redzeppelin
Tue May 26, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

I realize that this issue has already generated a separate thread, but I think that it's good to make sure that there is a record of it here: Due to reduced demand resulting from the pandemic, airport leadership has proposed a plan to accelerate construction. When Phase 1 opens this fall, they inten...

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by redzeppelin
Thu May 14, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 725
Views: 110604

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

It's good to read the full document from the OP's link. There are some good numbers in there that explain the harsh reality of the situation: "Our principal financial goal for 2020 is to reduce our cash burn to zero by the end of the year... Delta is currently burning about $50 million every da...

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by redzeppelin
Mon May 04, 2020 4:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Berlin Tegel (TXL) to Remain open until end of October at least
Replies: 99
Views: 17307

Re: Berlin Tegel (TXL) to Close from June 1

I flew into Berlin-Tegel almost 20 years ago on a school trip. Sad to see it's probably closing for good. This is probably a dumb question, but I took a photo of my luggage tag from the trip, and we flew to Amsterdam on KLM, and then on Northwest Airlines flight 68. Any idea what aircraft I probabl...

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by redzeppelin
Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian A350 in SLC
Replies: 31
Views: 8903

Re: Ethiopian A350 in SLC

My understanding is that the missionaries are all being told to self-isolate for 14 days on arrival, regardless of symptoms or exposures. I worry more about the arrivals from Asia than those from the southern hemisphere right now. In addition to the flights you mentioned, I believe there has also be...

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by redzeppelin
Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 341
Views: 69811

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /YSSY/KSLC
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N701dn 77L stretching its legs on SYD-SLC today. Repatriation charter.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /YSSY/KSLC

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by redzeppelin
Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian A350 in SLC
Replies: 31
Views: 8903

Re: Ethiopian A350 in SLC

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by redzeppelin
Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian A350 in SLC
Replies: 31
Views: 8903

Re: Ethiopian A350 in SLC

And a surprising Egyptair B789 non-stop CAI to SLC: - MS3092 CAI 05.27 - SLC 11.52 B789 SU-GER https://www.flightradar24.com/MSR3092/244dbaad It looks like the plane routed CAI-DEL-CAI-SLC since yesterday using flight numbers 3090, 3091, 3092. Probably an evacuation flight from India with tech stop...

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by redzeppelin
Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Carriers Considering Passenger Consolidation
Replies: 85
Views: 15442

Re: US Carriers Considering Passenger Consolidation

I can see regional operators consolidating flights for the majors, although it might only work for flights between competing hubs. For example, OO flies SLC-DEN for both DL and UA. Particularly if OO owns the jet, couldn't they easily consolidate the passengers with approval of DL and UA? Then those...

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by redzeppelin
Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC
Replies: 41
Views: 7672

Re: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC

This USGS fact sheet is helpful to understand seismic activity around SLC. The current earthquake activity is closest to the Oquirrh-Great Salt Lake Fault Zone, and not part of the better-known Wasatch Fault. https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2016/3019/fs20163019.pdf I also like this page that gives a nice i...

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by redzeppelin
Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC
Replies: 41
Views: 7672

Re: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC

An update article in the SL Tribune today, with a brief discussion of the liquefaction issue mentioned upthread: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2020/03/23/aftershocks-spur-plea/ If not for Covid-19, I think that this earthquake would have gotten a lot more national media attention. But even lo...

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by redzeppelin
Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC
Replies: 41
Views: 7672

Re: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC

https://twitter.com/UtahEmergency/statu ... 3624548353
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The last aftershock was updated to 4.6. That's more in line with what I felt.
https://twitter.com/UtahEmergency/statu ... 3624548353

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by redzeppelin
Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC
Replies: 41
Views: 7672

Re: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC

https://twitter.com/slcairport/status/1 ... 2817934336
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Biscayne738 wrote:
Another 3.7 aftershock just happened.

It felt bigger than that to me -- I had to grab something to hold on to.

The passenger terminals should be reopened now, according to airport twitter.
https://twitter.com/slcairport/status/1 ... 2817934336

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by redzeppelin
Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC
Replies: 41
Views: 7672

Re: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC

I was in south King County when the 6.7 struck and closed BFI because the fill under 32/14 liquefied and made the runways unusable. With Great Salt Lake being near SLC, are there chances of that happening there? The lake has no outlet, so I wonder if this changed the shape of the lake? Soil liquefa...

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by redzeppelin
Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC
Replies: 41
Views: 7672

Re: 5.7 Earthquake Near SLC

From the airports twitter account: "The airport is not currently operational. The FAA tower, terminals and concourses have been evacuated. The road to the airport has been opened, so that passengers can be picked-up." The epicenter was 4 km NNE of Magna, UT, which would be very near the ai...

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by redzeppelin
Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread
Replies: 52
Views: 8330

Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

KL has mainly used the 789 to SLC.

The DL 777 this week was a very rare visitor indeed. I can't even guess the last time that happened.

I noticed that SLC-OGG is running with A333 right now--how long has that been going? OGG is winter only, right?

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by redzeppelin
Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your 2020 Booked/Flown Flights
Replies: 107
Views: 7941

Re: Your 2020 Booked/Flown Flights

2020 Flown so far: January: SLC-SGU Delta 4227 CRJ (OO) SGU-SLC Delta 4312 CRJ (OO) February: SLC-SGU Delta 4227 CRJ (OO) SGU-SLC Delta 4289 CRJ (OO) SLC-SGU Delta 4227 CRJ (OO) SGU-SLC Delta 4289 CRJ (OO) SLC-ATL Delta 1802 767-300 ATL-RSW Delta 2291 757-200 RSW-ATL Delta 2704 757-200 ATL-SLC Delta...

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by redzeppelin
Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/9/2020:NK Cuts BOSRDU,DEN-DFW/MSY,MSP-DFW/IAH,Adds LGAMCO;AS Adds PAEBOI;MU Ends HNLPVG,SFOTAO;SA IAD?
Replies: 64
Views: 12535

Re: OAG Changes 2/9/2020:NK Cuts BOSRDU,DEN-DFW/MSY,MSP-DFW/IAH,Adds LGAMCO;AS Adds PAEBOI;MU Ends HNLPVG,SFOTAO;SA IAD?

DL ABQ-SLC OCT 3>4[3] NOV 3>4[3] DL IDA-SLC OCT 4>5[4] NOV 4>5[4] DL PSC-SLC OCT 3>4[3] NOV 3>4[3] DL SLC-TUS OCT 3>4[3] NOV 3>4[3] Watch this space, as they say. Phase 1 of SLC's terminal reconstruction is set to open in September, and there is plenty of speculation about new routes and service en...

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by redzeppelin
Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze - News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 759
Views: 137321

Re: Breeze - News and Discussion Thread

There's another interview in one of the local Utah outlets: https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/2/7/21126458/jetblue-utah-breeze-aviation-david-neeleman-southwest-airlines They emphasize that Breeze is based in Utah, and will receive some tax incentives, but also it also says that Breeze won't be flyi...

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by redzeppelin
Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo
Replies: 120
Views: 20766

Re: New Delta First Class Seats - A321neo

Hard to tell from the pictures, but those seats appear to have significantly less "cushion" than the older types (which has been a trend on many carriers for years). It looks like there's another divider between the seats, I wonder if that folds down or extends. The cushions may be thinne...

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by redzeppelin
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates adds tech stops to selected U.S destinations
Replies: 44
Views: 16577

Re: Emirates adds tech stops to selected U.S destinations

Does the DXB-IAH flight go through US Preclearance at YYZ? Wouldn’t that require everyone onboard to have paperwork to enter Canada? A lot of people from the ME neck of the woods won’t be able to just enter Canada with just their passports.. Nope. It is possible to connect to USA-bound flights with...

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by redzeppelin
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

https://www.slcairport.com/airlines-fli ... perations/
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Looks like the remaining E-gates will be demolished this month, with hardstand/bus operations commencing tomorrow. The PR indicates about 46 daily flights will switch to bus gates. These should all be OO flights, AFAIK:
https://www.slcairport.com/airlines-fli ... perations/

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by redzeppelin
Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze - News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 759
Views: 137321

Re: Moxy - News and Discussion Thread

ibthebigd wrote:
Could Provo or Ogden get flights to serve SLC area?

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk


PVU just broke ground on a new terminal, and they seem to be in a big hurry to get it done. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not.

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by redzeppelin
Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Breeze - News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 759
Views: 137321

Re: Moxy - News and Discussion Thread

The wheels are turning https://www.instagram.com/p/B408nGWHhFL/?igshid=4iymbpchwj77 Interesting to see that post is coming out of Utah. Is that where the new airline is going to be based? Not just Utah, but Cottonwood Heights, the very same suburb where the JetBlue office is located. I would also m...

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by redzeppelin
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

Here is an interesting proposal to rename the SLC airport in honor of Jake Garn. I'm not sure if I've heard this idea before, but I'm not surprised by it. This is just a guest opinion in one of the local papers, but I have a funny feeling that it may be taken seriously: https://www.deseret.com/opini...

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by redzeppelin
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New terminal project PVU - Provo, Utah News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 34
Views: 5566

Re: New terminal proposed for PVU - Provo, Utah

So the new terminal is really happening. Groundbreaking ceremony today, with expected completion by the end of 2021: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2019/11/06/provo-airport-launches/ This link has some renderings in the photo gallery. The ramp renderings look like a couple of B6 A320s, and sho...

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by redzeppelin
Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airlines ask HKG to waive fees - "flights no longer financially viable"
Replies: 98
Views: 35978

Re: Airlines ask HKG to waive fees - "flights no longer financially viable"

Anecdotal, but a professional conference that I was considering attending next July in Hong Kong was just moved to a different venue in Seoul. I don't know if other events are leaving the city, but it is interesting that this event cancelled with 9 months to go.

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by redzeppelin
Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q7rVnIZ_97o

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3IbcerWlvbc

Enjoy.
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I recently discovered these videos about "The Canyon" art installation that is being installed in the new terminal. I had seen renderings before, but the videos make it seem much more impressive.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q7rVnIZ_97o

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3IbcerWlvbc

Enjoy.

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by redzeppelin
Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Udvar-Hazy: Boeing planning a B737 MAX 9ER
Replies: 174
Views: 33675

Re: Udvar-Hazy: Boeing planning a B737 MAX 9ER

Kikko19 wrote:
Never more than 3 hours in a 737 fuselage. Cannot shrink my shoulders. Maybe if they do it 2+3 I will change my mind

I just did DEN-KEF-DEN this week on the 757 (same fuselage dimensions). It wasn't bad at all... but I also had an empty seat next to me both ways.

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by redzeppelin
Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NIMBYs in Eagan upset about MSP jet noise
Replies: 41
Views: 6326

Re: NIMBYs in Eagan upset about MSP jet noise

Right after getting married we briefly lived in an apartment that was about 100 feet from a Union Pacific line. We had 6-10 freight trains per day, including 3 or 4 during the night. And the locomotives would blow their horns at several crossings in the neighborhood. Now that was LOUD. But we learne...

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by redzeppelin
Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS & AA Seperation (Essentially) Coming March 1, 2020
Replies: 98
Views: 15609

Re: AS & AA Seperation (Essentially) Coming March 1, 2020

braniff2hav wrote:
Why are they unable to partner closer? I forgot.

IIRC, it started with the Virgin America acquisition. Regulators were concerned about reduced competition at LAX and forced AS to drop some code shares with AA. Does that sound right?

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by redzeppelin
Sat Sep 28, 2019 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2019 College Football Charters Thread
Replies: 146
Views: 20591

Re: 2019 College Football Charters Thread

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KPVU/KTOL
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BYU at Toledo:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/SCX ... /KPVU/KTOL

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by redzeppelin
Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

We are one year away from opening the first phase, and the SL Tribune has an update article today with a bunch of photos: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2019/09/23/new-b-salt-lake-city/ The first jet bridges are now installed. The new 6-mile-long baggage screening and delivery system is being ...

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by redzeppelin
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air Ongoing Developments Discussion Thread
Replies: 1107
Views: 181819

Re: Verge: WOW! Returning as US IAD-based US Airline

RWA380 wrote:
WOW must be saved, otherwise the world will always be shy one carrier with fuschia colored aircraft & an exclamation on the outside.


At least we still have W!ZZ.

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by redzeppelin
Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/1/2019:AS Massive Changes, Drops SAN-ABQ/ELP/MCI/MSP/OMA/STL,SFO-ABQ/MCI,LAXPHL,BURSJC;AA Adds FAI-DFW/ORD
Replies: 125
Views: 20902

Re: OAG Changes 9/1/2019:AS Massive Changes, Drops SAN-ABQ/ELP/MCI/MSP/OMA/STL,SFO-ABQ/MCI,LAXPHL,BURSJC;AA Adds FAI-DFW

Also a lot more capacity on the EWR- SLC route from DL and UA. Anything to do with the new terminal? First phase of the new terminal is still a year away, so that's not likely. I am curious to see how DL's SLC operation will change with the new facility, but doubt it will be too drastic in the near...

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by redzeppelin
Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread
Replies: 52
Views: 8330

Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

I would love to see Hawaiian enter SLC. To any island-I don't care which. DL would of course fight back against any HA moves, but I can dream.

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by redzeppelin
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread
Replies: 52
Views: 8330

Re: Salt Lake City Aviation Thread

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1374455
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There is another thread with construction updates:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1374455

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by redzeppelin
Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

https://twitter.com/slcairport/status/1 ... 8117722113

Also:
Traffic leaving the terminals has been routed though the new arrivals/pick-up lanes outside the new terminals--it's cool to see that area is nearly finished and looking good.
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Update video from the SLC airport Twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/slcairport/status/1 ... 8117722113

Also:
Traffic leaving the terminals has been routed though the new arrivals/pick-up lanes outside the new terminals--it's cool to see that area is nearly finished and looking good.

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by redzeppelin
Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Your 2019 Booked/Flown Flights List
Replies: 296
Views: 81069

Re: Your 2019 Booked/Flown Flights List

I simply want to say that I just boarded my first A220. :) DL831 SLC-SJC, now preparing for departure. Very roomy inside. Sitting in 14E with a great view of the massive GTF engine. Loving it. But my favorite thing so far is the "C-SERIES" floormat just inside the entry door.

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by redzeppelin
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PHL and Thunderstorms
Replies: 10
Views: 1942

Re: PHL and Thunderstorms

This thread title gave me nightmare flashbacks. I made several business trips to PHL in 2011 when I lived in BZN. The return flight was always booked PHL-MSP-BZN, leaving PHL about 1700. On three consecutive trips, that departure to MSP was either delayed multiple hours or cancelled due to weather, ...

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by redzeppelin
Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SLC Terminal Construction Updates
Replies: 144
Views: 37141

Re: SLC Terminal Construction Updates

Update article from KSL, reporting on public meeting to discuss SLC master plan: https://www.ksl.com/article/46596664/public-gets-first-glimpse-into-the-future-of-salt-lake-airport Image from KSL.com: http://img.ksl.com/slc/2744/274430/27443068.jpg You can see the new central terminal and parking fa...

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by redzeppelin
Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:51 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Top Gun 2: Maverick - Aircraft, filming, production & rumors thread
Replies: 77
Views: 27559

Re: Top Gun 2: Maverick - Aircraft, filming, production & rumors thread

bmartino99 wrote:
Why is he in a high altitude flight suit? Any one have any ideas?

HALO jump to steal an F-14 from Iran? Crossover with the Mission Impossible franchise.

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by redzeppelin
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Currently flying: fastest circumnavigation of the earth via both poles
Replies: 50
Views: 8574

Re: Currently flying: fastest circumnavigation of the earth via both poles

There is probably a blindlingly simple answer to this but why not using the equator with intermittent trade winds rather than pole to pole. pole to pole is only about 100km shorter circumference. was it purely an ETOPS requirement which flying the equator could not satisfy? It was because the attem...

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