American will avoid to install new flight deck in whole 767 fleet retiring them before it would be mandatory
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747-8 As much as I like the 747 it's a final squeeze of the orange. A lot of effort for a few more drops. . 747-8 product is not a commercial failure if you considering both versions. Boeing slowed their production but not stopped yet. There are too many 744 Freighter to replace and Boeing expected...Jump to post
Boeing 747SP was also an unsuccessful commercial project. Most airlines at the time are not interested to trade less capacity for more range. Instead, Boeing increased MTOW on B747-200 and engines manufacturers made more powerful engines.Jump to post
KE, LH and BA all operate regularly scheduled pax 747 operations here to N. America along with others. (B744s and B748s) What about this one? Technically a passenger jetliner. 5570755 We are talking about civilian operators. VC-25A are only based in Boeing 747 fuselage, and the "flying White H...Jump to post
There are many 747-400s being parked. United had some young (manufactured around 1999) Jumbos seeing the scrapman at Tupelo. With pure cargo birds being picken up by Atlas, Kalitta and Cargolux, why can't airlines convert these younger 747s? Converted freighters are heavier than factory and it can'...Jump to post
compensateme wrote:UA857 wrote:How much longer was NW going to operate the 744s prior to the DL merger?
Until September 26th, 2028 (just the six late deliveries though).
zappomatic wrote:747-400 G-BYGC will be wearing a BOAC livery from 18 February until its retirement in 2023.
I thought it’d be interesting for me to make a list of all the 767-300ERs American Airlines has owned and see there status as of this year for anyone who was curious since I don’t see why not. If there are any mistakes, feel free to correct me. So far, American Airlines has owned at least 67 767-30...Jump to post
Runway28L wrote:B763 N389AA ferrying TUL-ROW for retirement.
Most of VIP aircraft are registered in fiscal paradises, so many VP-* and VQ-* registers. (Bermuda is an example) Aeroflot case is special , no aircraft made outside Russia could be RA-* registered without pay a lot of import taxes. But, Russia is considering to ban foreign registration to Russian a...Jump to post
Are you saying MEL-SIN will lose the A380? Probably. I wonder what will happen with this extra BNE-US route if the AA JV goes through, if they add BNE-DFW several times weekly atleast I wonder if SYD-DFW will go 789 which frees up A380’s. BNE-SFO could be possible aswell. Maybe 2x daily DFW flights...Jump to post
SCL is in expansion, and to 2020 could handle A380. Maybe QF would change to A380 as happened with DFW , without applying to more frequencies (4 per week)
https://www.nuevopudahuel.cl/TerminalIn ... onal/fases (article in spanish)
I think given that there are only 6 789 currently on order to cover the remaining 744 routes (SYD-SCL/JNB/SFO/HND/HNL) there are insufficient frames to increase frequency. My guess is that of those routes, the priority would be to upgrade product to SFO, SCL and HND given the competition in these m...Jump to post
I found on the internet published for sale all QF 747-400 plus -ER in service with availability dates. Year first , month and day. http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/vorellanaj/Screen%20Shot%202018-11-16%20at%205.31.53%20PM_zpsygvw3da9.png For this screenshot you can conclude non-ER retirement lin...Jump to post
AA had in some time JFK-HND route when HND traffic was not strong as is today.Jump to post
The truth is that, although 9/11 changed the industry forever, a lot of airlines were struggling before then. People like Carl Icahn and Frank Lorenzo (although at Texas International and Eastern Airlines) made enemies in a lot of places. TWA was a pioneer of many things. Mostly using the B767 to g...Jump to post
Impossible. TWA was acquired by American Airlines Inc. before 9/11.
Maybe if 9/11 didn't happen , DL and AA never went to declare bankruptcy.
Qantas management are studying to order A350 (may be -1000) or 777-9X. Maybe could extend a bit longer 747ER life if they decided by 777X.Jump to post
Incredible sight , but QF will need to upgauge aircraft on the route in a foreseeable future . But, QF has no intermediate model between 787-9 and A380.
747-400 and -ER variant have less range, less efficiency and have retirement date scheduled.
I guess longest scheduled 747-400 was SYD DFW (which was weight-restricted, and only nonstop in one direction)? I think that was a 74E route. The regular 744 never did SYD-DFW. However, a 744 VH-OJA pulled of LHR-SYD nonstop for a VIP flight. Not never, only once. QF sent in the last minute VH-OJC ...Jump to post
No data of retirement about specific aircraft could be retrieved. First, Qantas will retire the sole oddball 747 configured (OEB , ex-OZ , could be perfectly this year), then the 3 RR-powered last standard 747-438 and finally the 6 -ER. I think withdrawn dates could be accelerated or postponed , de...Jump to post
Good retirement date , 767 product are inferior on AA widebody fleet due lack of PTV. Plus, the engines fitted are non FADEC CF6-80C2. The newest at retirement date will have 17-18 years, highly probable to be converted to freighter following older sisters. I learned something new here... I always ...Jump to post
And by 2021 none of the fleet will have PTV as AA has already said they are all being removed. none of the NARROWBODY fleet (minus A321 Transcon). No plans to remove PTV from widebodies. The LAA 319s are keeping the PTVs as well. Thanks. I forgot those sub-fleet. (sharklet winged A319). A321 and 73...Jump to post
Good retirement date , 767 product are inferior on AA widebody fleet due lack of PTV. Plus, the engines fitted are non FADEC CF6-80C2. The newest at retirement date will have 17-18 years, highly probable to be converted to freighter following older sisters. And by 2021 none of the fleet will have P...Jump to post
Good retirement date , 767 product are inferior on AA widebody fleet due lack of PTV. Plus, the engines fitted are non FADEC CF6-80C2.
The newest at retirement date will have 17-18 years, highly probable to be converted to freighter following older sisters.
DL757NYC wrote:Some of Delta’s 747 were 2003/2004 delivered maybe they will find a home. I thought later build 747’s already came with the modification
AA and DL at the time had very limited TPAC network. AA could have bought 744 as MD11 early replacement increasing LHR capacity (LHR slots were acquired from TWA) and 763ER engine commonality, if AA had ordered 763ER with FADEC engines. But Crandall disliked to risk with quads. KE was the airline th...Jump to post
Oh yeah and my mistake JFK-HKG was B744 not 77E. United could not be use sUA 77E on JFK-HKG route due all PW powered 77E full MTOW (PW4090) are 8000lbs less than RR (some Trent 892 and Trent 895) and GE (GE90-94B) powered counterparts. Longest missions were work for 744 fleet. In climbing phase rat...Jump to post
IIRC KE used to operate their non-ER 772 (may have been 773A, though) on ICN-HNL, which would be 3977nm. Another longer (former) non-ER 777 route would be LHR-DXB at 2972nm. KE never have 777-200 non-ER in the fleet. KE "Classic" 777 are 777-200ER and 777-300 The 773 (non-ER) flew ICN-LAX...Jump to post
When some UA domestic 772 were configured INTL , were used to Transatlantic from mainly East Cost and GRU received them ocasionally (77E is assigned). Other UA 772 non-ER always have been configured for domestic high density operations. All 772 are domestic today with old business and Economy withou...Jump to post
No data of retirement about specific aircraft could be retrieved. First, Qantas will retire the sole oddball 747 configured (OEB , ex-OZ , could be perfectly this year), then the 3 RR-powered last standard 747-438 and finally the 6 -ER. I think withdrawn dates could be accelerated or postponed , dep...Jump to post
The 744 is able to fly without both winglets. Japanese domestic versions did not operate with winglets, but could have them reattached should the carrier wish to use them for longhaul. ANA's 747-481D is an example, adding back winglets make it a 747-481. Boeing's Dreamlifters also have winglets del...Jump to post
In Colombia they already have the LCC format, and they have the same or even higher prices than Avianca that is not a LCC. I yet cannot understand LATAM's strategy, is a complete mess. Maybe in Colombia could be a complete mess in contrast with AV. But in Chile, LA business model is a truly SUCCESS...Jump to post
1) The two aircraft (CC-BKA and B) are dry leased to Boeing Capital. 2) 787 pilot rating is compatible with Boeing 777 , similar case 757/767 . But LA have 777 rated pilots working on other fleet types, those pilots had flown retired fleet of 77F. 3) In SIA , SV* tail numbered aircraft have full MTO...Jump to post
EK could had been used their witdrawn 77E fleet to fly to East Coast when their were newJump to post
I'm surprised about used A319. Engine choice is irrelevant, AA have both engine choices. Thanks for the remark. Can you confirm AA is accepting used A319s with V2500s? AA made the wise move of CFM-56 for A319s and V2500 for A321, so they could buy used V2500 powered A319s, but are they? DL should l...Jump to post
I'm surprised about used A319. Engine choice is irrelevant, AA have both engine choices.
Thanks for the remark.
Wait till the Mad Dog retirement spree dies down (G4 replacing with used Airbus, AA replacing with used Airbus , DL replacing with.... no direct replacement.) With UA on their used Airbus buying spree and WN finished with their 73G buys, maybe we'll see some more normal retirements. Or maybe the US...Jump to post
No one US registered 747 could fly in service without fuel tank inerting system from 2018 due to FAA airworthiness directive. DL and UA opted to withdrawn from service their 747 first , instead retrofitting their aircraft. EDIT : DL had 16 747-400, but only 4 were built in 1999 and 2 in 2002. Mainta...Jump to post