SYD was served until 2013 with the 744, MEL/BNE/PER we’re served until the early 2000s.
AKL until 1995. Via a few different routings in the Middle East, Asia, Australia
Great game, totally gutted for our boys, personally while there had to be a result being a WC final, wickets lost or something like that, I accept what the rules say however they could probably do with a look at. There were many moments in the game that could have gone either way. It was a great ga...Jump to post
Maybe we wont hear any announcements until next month, perhaps where QF is concerned it could be announced at their group results for 18/19. I think QF would want its own announcements at the 18/19 results, not to have AA stealing its thunder or being crowded out by other big QF announcements such ...Jump to post
July 20th qantasnewsroom on qantas.com, the QF/AA JV has reached final approval, most notable qantas new routes of BNE-SFO and BNE-ORD(most likely) will now be finalised re frequency/timings to each port for an 'end of April 2020 commencement', with 'fares available soon'. Shame with the formal ann...Jump to post
Great game, totally gutted for our boys, personally while there had to be a result being a WC final, wickets lost or something like that, I accept what the rules say however they could probably do with a look at. There were many moments in the game that could have gone either way. Even Eoin Morgan i...Jump to post
Why would they use a 77W? It is a very capable plane, PR/CX/EK use them on 16.5 hr services weight restricted for sure however EWR-AKL would be over 17. The 789 is in the fleet for a reason. Just not yet in the right configuration for a route like EWR. Because its what they have available right now...Jump to post
Testing the waters with EWR, before they have the right equipment to go nonstop? Not saying it is happening, but that could be an explanation.... It’s a pretty expensive thing to do, QF connect people from MEL/SYD/BNE onto LAX-JFK to make it viable. And for NZ it goes against their no one stop Poli...Jump to post
That's the most likely. Though, there was a reference to an "apple" e.g. New York maybe? Also, the blueprints are only showing business class, with the rest of the plane left blank, so maybe the unveiling of the new business class seats? Also thinking that NZ might try New York as a tag f...Jump to post
Also thinking that NZ might try New York as a tag from LAX? Maybe we could see CHC/AKL - LAX - EWR? What would that offer? Testing the waters with EWR, before they have the right equipment to go nonstop? Not saying it is happening, but that could be an explanation.... It’s a pretty expensive thing ...Jump to post
TheFlyingDisk wrote:On a related note, why did VS fly to KUL? IIRC they even had a partnership with MH prior to the Asian Financial Crisis.
Does the JV only cover Australia & NZ or does it also cover Asia? I think Singapore (QF focus city) could be added to the AA network to broaden OneWorld's focus in SE Asia. (I know LAX-SIN is long but UA said they could do it so...) SIN via QF? Yes it is long US-SIN but via Australia is much lo...Jump to post
My thought was CHC-LAX on the blueprint one That's the most likely. Though, there was a reference to an "apple" e.g. New York maybe? Also, the blueprints are only showing business class, with the rest of the plane left blank, so maybe the unveiling of the new business class seats? Also th...Jump to post
SQ to go 5 x weekly on WLG-MEL-SIN from 01 January 2020 https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/114356530/additional-flight-added-to-wellingtonsingapore-service-increasing-flights-to-five-a-week Nice. I was just wondering about that. Not quite non stop but a nice bump none the less. No news on when the B772...Jump to post
Briefly stopped by the hangars yesterday afternoon and the forward cargo door of ZK-OKJ was open with about three people in yellow vests in and around the forward cargo compartment. Thanks for the info. Looks like some maintenance issues. One of those cases where the aircraft hasn’t flown for a whi...Jump to post
Wouldn't MH's fleet be considered all but retired anyway? The airline has no schedule A380 operations, and so far in July there is been 1 (ONE) scheduled roundtrip on an A380 aircraft, when one of the aircraft flew a schedule Bangkok rotation on July 14. Otherwise, the fleet has been doing occasion...Jump to post
In terms of retirement of the whole fleet AF could beat QR, MH have tried for some time to rid themselves of theirs but are asking to much.Jump to post
It was year round in 2007, went back to a 763 before being dropped and then came back seasonally around 2016, so better loads given its seasonal. Everything else over NRT. We've seen NZ dump seasonal Asian routes (SGN), while expanding the season of others (DPS) - it will be interesting to see whic...Jump to post
Speaking of KIX, does anyone know how it is going for NZ - or have any speculations on this? Japanese visitor arrivals to New Zealand are down about 1% in the past 12 months. However, inbound tourism to KIX is booming; it surged five-fold between 2012 and 2017 - for TYO, it was only three-fold for ...Jump to post
How does that website even work? Certainly looks like an CX bird to me , and if it had 275 seats as some said unthread then that how many CX had on their 4 class aircraft when they were 9 abreast in Y. CX have withdrawn a few 77Ws (5?)in the last year or so. Steve tells us: Seems like it would be u...Jump to post
77E goes to Japan (IIRC NRT not sure about KIX) What equipment is on Haneda? HND has been suspended for several months now and was replacing with double NRT. Could be that one is 789 and the other is 77E or maybe KIX. I’m not sure I just heard that by YVR switching Japan would replace it. HNL goes ...Jump to post
I've said before, it's the best aircraft for the job. Getting a full fleet back is key. Perfect A350 route isn’t it for 2 months of the year? Oh Hang on they forgot to order them. Totally agree though, 20% lower fuel burn will help on any route, particularly one like YVR where premium demand isn’t ...Jump to post
NRT is showing 789, no HND. That leaves EZE, HKG, IAH, RAR-LAX and RAR-SYD as the only long haul flights for 772 in NW19? Thought RAR-LAX and RAR-SYD was changed to 789 recently? Was this not permanent? Nothing is permanent, aircraft changes happen seasonally all the time. In this case both are 789...Jump to post
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/285385/air-new-zealand-nw19-vancouver-aircraft-changes/ 789 to YVR from NW schedule. Unsure where the 772 goes and if it’s a code 1 or code 2, I’m picking it may be code 2, there are some AKL-CHC 789s to position them for CHC-SIN which is odd given ...Jump to post
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/285385/air-new-zealand-nw19-vancouver-aircraft-changes/ 789 to YVR from NW schedule. Unsure where the 772 goes and if it’s a code 1 or code 2, I’m picking it may be code 2, there are some AKL-CHC 789s to position them for CHC-SIN which is odd given i...Jump to post
c933103 wrote:YYZORD wrote:Is there a chance that FJ will launch NAN-YVR if PPT-YVR is successful?
NAN-YVR is a rather long flight just a bit shorter than Australia-YVR. Do FJ have suitable aircraft to fly the route?
Is there a chance that FJ will launch NAN-YVR if PPT-YVR is successful? Didn't they do this with a 738 before that flew NAN-HNL-YVR? They did yes, given FJ recent expansion NAN-YVR seems plausible. PPT-YVR while unserved would be a significantly smaller market, a new Canadian CEO for AF probably pl...Jump to post
Air New Zealand should acquire the A350-900 ULR with a few in their fleets so they can launch flights from Auckland to Newark. That boat has already sailed, NZ/Boeing have public said they are working together to get more range out of the 787-9/787-10s that will meet there requirements. NZ just pur...Jump to post
Slightly off topic: today's NZ30 AKL-EZE was upgauged to a 77W from the scheduled 77E. ZK-OKQ was the aircraft used. Most likely some last minute equipment change, as the load was 236 paxs on the flight. Carrying the All Blacks to Argentina for their game next weekend. Quite a low load however over...Jump to post
Cathay first flew via Vancouver because the 747 could not do it with a decent payload nonstop. What 747? Didn't CX have -400s back in 1996? I think you misread, the 744 couldn’t do HKG-JFK non stop so the initial service was via YVR and started in 1996 with a 744. YVR was actually served non stop w...Jump to post
Correct. And the routing was due to no aircraft available then that could perform HKG-JFK-HKG nonstop (without a significant payload restriction). Cathay did not have long range 777-200ERs at the time and the 747-400 had to take significant payload restrictions to perform it, as UA learned the hard...Jump to post
marcogr12 wrote:Had they leased the 777-200LR, would they be able to do it?
New York could happen (via Los Angeles) but it hasn’t. Frankfurt (via Los Angeles) has yet to be reinstated, so perhaps, ANZ is simply taking a conservative approach. NYC via LAX doesn’t make sense for NZ, they don’t have cabotage rights for the domestic sector and don’t have flights from other int...Jump to post
Also, NZ isn't exactly an airline that could command enough J seats to even reach EWR, and if they did one-stop via LAX, they couldn't carry local traffic to New York...meaning a very empty plane on the LAX-New York sector as they have only one New Zealand destination---AKL (by contrast, NZ can lev...Jump to post
Look at a globe/map. Locate New Zealand. Now locate New York. The answer should now be pretty obvious. This is the only correct answer. You could argue the same for QF and Australia is further away, the only way they have sustained JFK via LAX however is because they have their own flights arriving...Jump to post
With the new configuration of the 77W, is there any new destinations that they can add by 2020 that can be profitable with this config? In North America I can only see them add YYZ next for sure as that is the only major star alliance hub left in north america that has Tokyo flights very under-serv...Jump to post
Amazing really. I didn’t give us NZ a chance in that particular game given our form over the last 2 games, the pitches have been different to say the least but have made for a good contest between bat and ball throughout.
Well done lads, bring the cup home!
They never had the interest to fly SYD-SFO though. Why? They could have done this I guess LAX was where the profits were. How could they have done SYD-SFO? They were denied SYD-LAX, why would SFO have been any different even though it was only UA flying it until QF went back in 2006. It was denied ...Jump to post
PA515 wrote:aerorobnz wrote:NZF will also be first 787 with wifi.
Any idea when and where that's being done. There's been no announcement from Air NZ, other than the 787s will be fitted with Wifi.
Perhaps look at their target market. I’ll take a guess, they see NZ as a small market best served via Australia so chasing the price conscious Taiwanese traveler? And topping up in BNE. Now NZ have gone there to TPE and are generally chasing the more premium market but with a leisure heavy LOPA 789...Jump to post
I’d imagine CI will up gauge to the 77W as usual. CI intrigues me. Even after nearly 10 years at AKL, they're still doing the BNE tag. You'd imagine they'd either try to move to non-stop flights (at a reduced frequency), or drop AKL completely? Cheers, C. Perhaps look at their target market. I’ll t...Jump to post
NZ don’t need to serve SCL when they have EZE For now, they may not need to, but I could see it becoming viable in the future. After all, of all the markets in South America that AKL can serve as a hub to/from Asia through, AKL has the biggest advantage to/from SCL, over other ports in South Americ...Jump to post
I’d imagine CI will up gauge to the 77W as usual. CI intrigues me. Even after nearly 10 years at AKL, they're still doing the BNE tag. You'd imagine they'd either try to move to non-stop flights (at a reduced frequency), or drop AKL completely? Cheers, C. Yes I agree, they were even running SYD-AKL...Jump to post
So, on the other side of the question...if the 77W and/or A350-1000 can essentially handle the same number of passengers and have better range for less money, then why have airlines bought the 748? LH always wanted a larger 747 and they have large premium cabins while the 748 allows them to carry a...Jump to post
Clearly? OK. Your sources? :roll: Sources, maybe your own eyes? EK have focused on the A380 and the 77W for the last decade, and would have continued with the A380, they are renegotiating 77X orders, adding A339s and A359s which is a change from what they were doing. Sure the hub and spoke strategy...Jump to post