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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

Emirates says it will keep MEL-SIN flights despite its proposal to axe BNE-SIN flights https://www.executivetraveller.com/emirates-says-it-will-continue-melbourne-singapore-flights Don't quite believe that myself, as I recall Emirates denying plans to axe most of the AU-NZ A380 routes and then turn...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

FJ's placing the A350 to SYD and to LAX might seem a bit aggressive to QF too, going up against their TPAC services. FJ have long been a budget TPAC option, and now with a brilliant Y-friendly aircraft. I hardly think that upgrading from an A330 to an A350 on a route QF doesn't serve with its own m...

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by ZK-NBT
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

When the Whenuapai idea was raised again just over a week ago, I thought it would be a one-off which would die away as quickly as it got raised. Yet we're still seeing various pieces covering it with what appears to a bit of support... Will momentum grow or will it be killed off as soon as serious ...

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by ZK-NBT
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/286358/united-nw19-international-service-changes-as-of-13sep19/ UA to run 78J SFO-AKL. This could never happen according to several due to the lack of range on the 78J. I’m not surprised at all tbh, probably just right sizing the market a bit, 77W wi...

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by ZK-NBT
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market
Replies: 142
Views: 33587

Re: Boeing 787-10 Missions in the transpacific market

Anyone have any idea of UA's current cargo loads on SFO-AKL? I emphasize that in the future Air New Zealand could replace the Boeing 777-300ER with Boeing 787-10 can easily fly to SFO and LAX which are the high density destinations of the NZ route network and with the JV with United they do not nee...

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by ZK-NBT
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

I notice NZ’s new ICN services will now depart at 5 different times ex AKL, 4 between 1035-1155 with the 5th at 1420, returning they depart ICN between 2155-2215 4 days with the 5th at 2355. I wasn’t aware how full ICN was until NZ announced services which had a single departure time. AKL 1200 ICN ...

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by ZK-NBT
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

I notice NZ’s new ICN services will now depart at 5 different times ex AKL, 4 between 1035-1155 with the 5th at 1420, returning they depart ICN between 2155-2215 4 days with the 5th at 2355. I wasn’t aware how full ICN was until NZ announced services which had a single departure time. AKL 1200 ICN 1...

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by ZK-NBT
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

I didn’t see it mentioned here, QF freight began operating 748s through AKL operated by Atlas in full Atlas colours last week, scheduled through AKL every Monday. There is an extra rotation this week from AVV bringing V8 Supercars over. Good to see, and first visit of a 748F to AKL. KE will bring th...

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by ZK-NBT
Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

ben175 wrote:
Does anyone know why QF has ceased its seasonal PER-AKL flying?


Aircraft availability or PER airport issues? The plan was to use an A330 AKL-PER-JNB or something last year but I think the planned JNB flight was postponed due PER airport and QF on going spat.

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by ZK-NBT
Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

Call me skeptical but I feel like WPE would have been done 10-15 years ago if the growth in AKL could have been foreseen. Now it seems to little to late and nothing will actually happen. It’s a pity there is no infrastructure in place at WPE which might make AKL move at more than a slow snails pace.

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by ZK-NBT
Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Emirates begins A380 retirements to support in-service fleet
Replies: 94
Views: 18546

Re: EK supposedly starts A380 retirement

It's a little strange that they are starting to retire the A380 already, and at the same time they are still waiting for a few more to be delivered brand new. It's interesting. I have never seen an airline taking delivery of a new airplane while at the same time retiring airplanes of the same type,...

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by ZK-NBT
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

I was going to say so long as there is 2-3 long haul routes to cover say 4-6 code 3 frames, GRU might be another one although South America, Brazil, Argentina are up and down big time, not the most stable. ORD is another possible code 3 route? While some routes might transfer to code 2, that’s wher...

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by ZK-NBT
Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

Not sure what you mean by general idea. The thought that NZ doing a delivery flight in a plane that could already fly NYC-AKL with the right configuration will somehow one up QF has me bemused. Because Qantas plan to do the exact same thing... Ummm no. Not the same thing at all. It's to test flight...

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by ZK-NBT
Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

With NZR set for delivery later this month. NZ could one up QF and route it Seattle to New York then onto Auckland for trial run and for testing purposes.. How on Earth would that be one upping Qantas ? You get the general idea don’t you? NYC-AKL would be around 17hrs, you could fly it down to IVC ...

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by ZK-NBT
Tue Sep 03, 2019 10:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

An additional configuration wouldn’t be hard to do at all so long as it’s a commercially viable configuration that will make money surely? It's very easy to do, as they'll likely cycle through NYC and Tasman only where code 1's will be Asian etc.. so from a logistical sense, it's not too hard at al...

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by ZK-NBT
Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

Yes read the order and watching the radio silence also just curious if the existing birds could make it or NZ not willing to not fill some seats westbound is all im not technical so dont know the difference in GE v RR engines......maybe it needs the MTOW bump for all to be considered or also waitin...

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by ZK-NBT
Tue Sep 03, 2019 7:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

The use of the 789 powered by GE engines and with a MTOW tweak was all but stated when NZ ordered the 787-10 a couple of months ago. Absolute radio silence since then from both NZ and Boeing. Bottom line is that if NZ wants to serve EWR then it has to actually place an order for such an aircraft. M...

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by ZK-NBT
Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

Yes read the order and watching the radio silence also just curious if the existing birds could make it or NZ not willing to not fill some seats westbound is all im not technical so dont know the difference in GE v RR engines......maybe it needs the MTOW bump for all to be considered or also waitin...

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

Interesting observations, NZ ran 744s for flight centre from both AKL and BNE one year. Maybe a no go then? Or would they try it in NS 2-3 weekly? The flight centre ones are genuine charters for staff going to their globals awards. It's not open to the public in any way. Sorry I misread, you said g...

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

LAX frequencies will reduce across the big 3 cities when more p2p routes open. But at the same time, I do wonder if the A380s will be refurb'd (again) in the medium/long term to remove F to make it a 3 class (J/W/Y) aircraft for longer routes that either have slot issues or to to merge some flights...

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

Captdasbomb wrote:
EK413 wrote:
A treat for those traveling on tomorrow's (02SEP) QF575 SYDPER, QF580 PERSYD B747 -OEE is operating in lieu of the regular A330.

EK413


What happened to the treat?


It operated with a 744, OEH did it.

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Japan allocates Haneda international slots to 9 nations
Replies: 132
Views: 26647

Re: Japan allocates additional Haneda international slots to ANA & JAL

I guess countries like New Zealand, Switzerland missed out again. The ANA-JAL split seems pretty good. Suppose we will see JAL transfer its Helsinki service to HND. Wonder where in Italy ANA will go - MXP or FCO? They currently codeshare with AZ to both The India 0.5 for each far from ideal. Where ...

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

Weird I was just thinking about possible outbound holiday destinations a few days ago, along the lines of Bali, then catch up on a-net to see the idea of OGG raised just as I was thinking it was a good possibility! Yes the runway is short (I assume the AA/UA 777s benefit from flying eastbound) and ...

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

WLG's runway is shorter again yet we're talking about WLG-SIN flights which is longer than AKL-OGG??? What it will come down to is, how many seats can the airline fill at what price and will people buy it. If the math works out on that, there's no reason it can't technically happen. I’d have to adm...

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

OGG's runway is only 2,132m - over 300m shorter than OOLs. Whilst it's likely technically possible for a 789 to fly AKL-OGG-AKL, it's not realistic with a full load both ways year round - and NZ aren't going to run it as a triangle route! WLG's runway is shorter again yet we're talking about WLG-SI...

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

It would be remiss for the folks discussing the additional HND frequency that has been negotiated by Australia to simply assume that frequency will be awarded to QF and thus a quick win for the TYO B744 situation... True, but the only other option would be VA. The likely route VA would operate woul...

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

OGG is interesting. HNL gets to daily in July August and was 9pw for the July holidays in 2018 so maybe a daily HNL and 2-3 weekly OGG initially in July August? How about AIT? They were talking of expanding the runway and customs to take International flights, AKL is realistically most likely I thi...

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

Looking up the schedules for AKL to EZE. The last 777 service is Sun 2 Feb and first 787 service is Mon 3 Feb and frequency drops from 5 pw to 4 pw from then on. Might be to do with not enough spare 787 capacity to remain 5 pw. I see it reverts back to 777 in april 3 pw. Schedules Wont be updated y...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

How about AIT? They were talking of expanding the runway and customs to take International flights, AKL is realistically most likely I think as a seasonal NS destination 1-2 weekly A320s to start, stunning place AIT is, the less people the better. According to http://www.ck/aituthot.htm there’s abo...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

2 BNE-LAX-JFK 2 BNE-ORD/SFO 2 MEL-PER-LHR 2 MEL -SFO/LAX The Sydney based 6 are still confusing me The 6 SYD frames are likely to be 3 SYD-SFO-SYD-SCL-SYD 3 SYD-HND-SYD-JNB-SYD The SFO/HND arrivals can swap around and go to SCL/JNB or which ever they don’t usually. HKG at some point will have to sw...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 207
Views: 17974

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2019

OGG is interesting. HNL gets to daily in July August and was 9pw for the July holidays in 2018 so maybe a daily HNL and 2-3 weekly OGG initially in July August? How about AIT? They were talking of expanding the runway and customs to take International flights, AKL is realistically most likely I thin...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

Not yet I do not understand the use of the 14 B789 of Qantas 3 SFO-SYD/BNE/MEL 3 MEL-PER-LHR 2.5 BNE-LAX-JFK 1.5 SCL-SYD 1 BNE-ORD 0.5 MEL-LAX 0.5 SYD-HKG (Possibly return to operation with A330) Only one use would be left for one route, any of the SYD-JNB or SYD-TYO routes has to be operated with ...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Sep 01, 2019 4:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

The SYD - SFO - SYD flights in July, 2020 the departure time for QF73 has been put back from today's 17:40 to 19:55 with effect from 29/3/20. This will enable QANTAS to operate to SCL with just the one additional 789, which it is presumed will be 12th aircraft that will be delivered in late May, ea...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

Is this what QF 787 network will look like aprox by the end of 2020? MEL: Los Angeles 1 San Francisco 1 London 2 SYD: Hong Kong 1 San Francisco 2 Santiago 1 Johannesburg 2 BNE: Los Angeles 2 Chicago 1 San Francisco 1 This is also of course if QF25/26 gets changed to an A380, if it doesn’t would the...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Sep 01, 2019 3:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

The Boeing 787-9 with the Qantas configuration can fly MEL-DFW, it is longer PER-LHR and the B789 flies it, Qantas needs to buy more Boeing 787-9 to continue expanding, the last Boeing 787-9 of the last order of 6 will fly SYD-SFO / SCL / JNB, SYD-HND possibly pass A330 again I was of similar view ...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

There should be 1 maybe 2 more routes to be announced next year for the last 2 I think unassigned 789s currently on order, SYD-SFO and SYD-SCL plus a temporary SYD-AKL have been announced. I doubt MEL-DFW can be done with a 789 while BNE is getting SFO/ORD services so unlikely to get DFW for some t...

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by ZK-NBT
Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019
Replies: 356
Views: 36670

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - September 2019

When will QF announce more 787 routes such as MEL-DFW and BNE-DFW There should be 1 maybe 2 more routes to be announced next year for the last 2 I think unassigned 789s currently on order, SYD-SFO and SYD-SCL plus a temporary SYD-AKL have been announced. I doubt MEL-DFW can be done with a 789 while...

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by ZK-NBT
Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Indeed it does change around a lot this summer even with 30 wide bodies in service. Just wondering if we will see the DPS route go year round eventually. As in 2020 season it's running up to 6 per week and can see it daily the year after. The problem will be to find spare 787 capacity in December a...

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by ZK-NBT
Sat Aug 31, 2019 8:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Regarding NS and NZ having spare capacity and the Japan market more higher yielding. Could possibly see Osaka go back to operate all year again. Many years ago I remember seeing 767s running both KIX and NRT to CHC during the winter. But I expect the inbound tourism market ex Japan was much larger ...

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by ZK-NBT
Sat Aug 31, 2019 4:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Indeed it does change around a lot this summer even with 30 wide bodies in service. Just wondering if we will see the DPS route go year round eventually. As in 2020 season it's running up to 6 per week and can see it daily the year after. The problem will be to find spare 787 capacity in December a...

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by ZK-NBT
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

This NW the 77W fleet is only doing 3 weekly to LAX so can be done by OKT itself on Tues, Fri and Sun. The other 4 days it's operated by the 772.. While IAH is daily 77W which will use two and a solid performing route for Air NZ now. It depends where you look, things are still being updated. It see...

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by ZK-NBT
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Speaking of Air NZ's schedules, does anyone know how they work? I've been following the 777-300ER's for the last few months and put them on a spreadsheet but there is no identifiable pattern. I thought they would be on an 8 week cycle or something but it appears random. While there isn’t an exact p...

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by ZK-NBT
Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Hi PA515 First time posting here. With regards to comment above it's a bit more complex with the 787 utilisation and changes day to day. I have done a 787 working weekly planner for this Dec. The 14 strong 787 fleet is nearly fully utilised everyday except for Tuesday and part of Wednesday where on...

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by ZK-NBT
Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

There are 14 not 15 789s. Correct. Should have said "only thirteen of fourteen 789s utilised in a 16-22 Dec sample schedule." PA515 Hi PA515 First time posting here. With regards to comment above it's a bit more complex with the 787 utilisation and changes day to day. I have done a 787 wo...

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by ZK-NBT
Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

The Air NZ 2019 Annual Results Analyst Call Transcript is now available. https://p-airnz.com/cms/assets/PDFs/2019-Annual-Results-Analyst-Call-Transcript.pdf From bottom of page 11 to top of page 12. All 789s will be back in service from 'sometime' in Sep 2019 and the ex SQ 77E ZK-OKJ is being retur...

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by ZK-NBT
Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

I agree, I don’t agree with controlling the competition, the problem here in NZ is that the market is to small to sustain more than 1 major carrier that can actually make any serious money, NZ is the incumbent here and I personally don’t think it’s right to penalise them so another carrier can have ...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

If you look at Australia and towns that are similar to NPE they only get 1-2x daily services from someone like JQ which seems todo ok. Maybe the F100's would be better off with JQ doing an twice daily service on routes like AKL-NPE, AKL-NSN etc. I would hate to know what the yield is like on some J...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

Surely these are routes that need a bit of frequency though? 1 daily JQ A320 vs NZ 8-10 daily ATRs. If you look at Australia and towns that are similar to NPE they only get 1-2x daily services from someone like JQ which seems todo ok. Maybe the F100's would be better off with JQ doing an twice dail...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

So where's Shane Jones now? Does this prove anything to the regions? Maybe that $49 tickets on Q400's just don't cover the operating costs long term! I think Shane Jones and the regions could be doing more together with Jones money to support higher frequencies and/or larger services which would he...

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by ZK-NBT
Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019
Replies: 260
Views: 27806

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2019

So where's Shane Jones now? Does this prove anything to the regions? Maybe that $49 tickets on Q400's just don't cover the operating costs long term! I think Shane Jones and the regions could be doing more together with Jones money to support higher frequencies and/or larger services which would he...

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