Agreed. A Tampa hub is needed by United.Jump to post
Airlines slash prices and flood new competitive routes with unreasonable amounts of flights to force their competitor out of the market and then raise the price back up. Now that Southwest can do this they should. Its unfortunate that alot of people don't realize this and continue to fly on the air...Jump to post
swafa wrote:flybry wrote:If Southwest is such a Brilliant, vibrant competitor on the offense, what do you call its pullout from Newark BEFORE the coronavirus crisis?
I call it an unfortunate victim of the boeing Max debacle.
If Southwest is such a Brilliant, vibrant competitor on the offense, what do you call its pullout from Newark BEFORE the coronavirus crisis?Jump to post
Southwest may have a strategy adding tons of flights back quickly. But without passengers on those flights, it’s a strategy for failure.Jump to post
Does Southwest have a death wish?Jump to post
I was thinking they’d merge to save themselves from going out of business?Jump to post
If this is being discussed in another thread, I apologize and please delete. I was just wondering if all the U.S. airlines emerge from the current coronavirus crisis as much smaller carriers (like Delta said it would), would that open the door for mergers like we saw in the aftermath of the 2008 Gre...Jump to post
Using what gates, exactly? Maybe Delta will make a deal with United? United has all but abandoned Seattle compared to the market share it used to have. Perhaps Delta can get some of United’s gates? Why would UA want to help DL out anywhere, think about that for a moment. UA does not benefit by lett...Jump to post
EA CO AS wrote:flybry wrote:Delta will eventually overtake Alaska in Seattle much like Delta has done to AA at JFK.
Using what gates, exactly?
I think this is another indication Delta is serious about overtaking Alaska to become the number one carrier in Seattle full stop. Which isn't going to happen I’d argue that DL will overtake AS in the PNW. Like what it did to AA in JFK. DL has a massive operation that can subsidize growing SEA into...Jump to post
AlexBrewster03 wrote:If southwest wanted more presence in NYC, then closing EWR wasn’t the way to go imo
Detroit313 wrote:United and Delta are so tiny in Latin America compared to AA. We can't deny that. They own that market.
I think United was dumb to sell their JFK-LON authority to Delta when they did and pull out of the JFK-LHR market completely. Just like pulling out of JFK to LAX and SFO. Actually think it was a pretty smart move at the time...not very long after UA sold JFK-LON to DL the US and UK reached an open ...Jump to post
I wonder if United will pull out of the SFO-ANC market now that Alaska will be entering it? :/Jump to post
Yes!! Personally I have never flown Frontier. But I’m glad they’ll give UA some competition. I’m especially glad to see competition on the EWR-DEN route!Jump to post
I have limited sympathy for passengers who booked this flight. Looking at DL 975, it was 1 1/2 hours late Sunday, 3 1/2 hours late Monday, 18 hours late Wednesday, and 7 1/2 hours late (and counting) today. In a case like this, past results are a pretty good indicator of future performance. So the ...Jump to post
Delta has good access to Asia via SEA, ICN, and DTW. No reason delta needs to fly any routes direct. They can one-stop to all the major cities. Um, tell that to people in NYC. I prefer nonstops to Asia any day over a “one-stop” to Asia. Delta is just simply not competitive in this market. Full stop.Jump to post
I just don’t understand how Delta can claim to be NYC’s #1 airline when it cannot even sustain one flight to Asia nonstop. It’s a gaping hole. I tend to think of UA and DL as equal sharersin NYC air traffic. Delta is not NYC's #1 airline. And UA and Delta are not equal sharers in NYC air traffic. U...Jump to post
Am I the only one that finds DL not being able to serve JFK-Tokyo hilarious? I agree! It is rather hilarious, and quite sad at the same time actually. Not sure why it's sad or funny. Airlines can't be all things to everyone. DL has no feed in Tokyo and DL customers in the eastern third of the US wh...Jump to post
Court costs pay for that. It's charged to the defendant (airlines). Its come to my attention how much misinformation there is about American bankruptcy court in foreign lands. It's not a subsidy, it's not a bailout. It's a prioritization of claims on the standing assets of an organization with more...Jump to post
Chapter 11 doesn’t cost the tax payers. What about all the courts, judges and government lawyers who deal with bankruptcy cases? The tax payers pay for all of that. And it’s not cheap. Court costs pay for that. It's charged to the defendant (airlines). Its come to my attention how much misinformati...Jump to post
This whole plan was unnecessary!!!
It made no sense from the start!!
The terminal layout was fine as it was.
Stupid stupid stupid.
Jshank83 wrote:flybry wrote:Do you think anyone might come in and start DEN-EWR so it’s not a United monopoly route?
F9 is about the only one that makes much sense to me. I can’t see DL or AA running it.
I think Frontier would be crazy to not try EWR-DEN. This is horrible new for us frequent flyers on the EWR-DEN route i remember the old days when United has a monopoly. The premium for a N/S was insane! I agree! I’m so upset United will have this route as a monopoly. Part of the deal for the United...Jump to post
Wow. And I remember getting Southwest a foothold at EWR was the only big concession to have the CO/UA merger approved. Anyone else remember? Maybe Southwest should replace EWR with the more "prestigious" JFK (I am quoting others on here, not my word). I am actually shocked they're not at ...Jump to post
After the merger of Continental and United -- this means United now has a monopoly on a lot routes out of EWR that Southwest will be abandoning including EWR-DEN. I wonder if United will jack up the fares on these routes? So much for the merger being beneficial to flyers and ticket prices :/Jump to post
Boof02671 wrote:Chapter 11 doesn’t cost the tax payers.
Guess the meeting did not go very well. Trump just sided with Qatar over US airline CEOs in the nastiest battle in the aviation industry https://www.businessinsider.in/trump-just-sided-with-qatar-over-us-airline-ceos-in-the-nastiest-battle-in-the-aviation-industry/articleshow/70300792.cms = Basical...Jump to post
A loan that was paid back under the ATSB program is not a subsidy, the airlines borrowed the money from the banks, paid it back a loan guarantee doesn’t cost the government money. For example US Airways borrowed the money from Citibank The Airlines pay rent and landing fees. They dont operate for f...Jump to post
Boof02671 wrote:flybry wrote:The US carriers are being pathetic. They get subsidies too!!!!
No they don’t.
No they don’t. #1 : They explicitly took subsidies in the form of loan guarantees from the Federal Govt as recently as 2002. #2 : The USA is one of the few countries in the world with government owned airports, whereas in most countries the airports must operate as a business. That is not the case ...Jump to post
The US carriers are being pathetic. They get subsidies too!!!!Jump to post