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by factsonly
Mon May 23, 2022 7:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France/KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 227
Views: 47948

Re: Air France/KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2022

KLM had another meltdown at AMS this weekend. About 50 flights were canceled. I'd call this a little hysterical exaggeration! Let's consider the facts: - KLM cancelled 21 return services (7%) due to staff shortages and operated 288 return flights on Saturday May 21st. - KLM cancelled 20 return serv...

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by factsonly
Fri May 20, 2022 8:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Network Thread - 2022
Replies: 763
Views: 151869

Re: Delta Network Thread - 2022

Any thoughts about reinstating LAX-AMS with the A333/A339 since KL is currently operating only one daily flight (78K). KLM is 2x daily on LAX-AMS in Summer 2022, so adding DL metal would bring it to 3x daily and that has proven too much capacity in 2018/2019. - LAX 13:55 - AMS 09:10 KL602/DL9468 78...

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by factsonly
Wed May 18, 2022 6:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France/KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 227
Views: 47948

Re: Air France/KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2022

AF/KL and CMA CGM Cooperation details, including a 9% CMA CGM shareholding in AF/KL: It will result in the joint operation of all AF/KL and CMA CGM freighter aircraft and passenger belly cargo capacity: "Air France-KLM and CMA CGM will join and exclusively operate the full-freighter aircraft ca...

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by factsonly
Mon May 16, 2022 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 523
Views: 113469

Re: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2022

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 3#2be1867b
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Monday June 16th, 2022:

AC843 FRA-YYZ operated by B789 C-FRTU diverted to AMS tonight for a medical emergency.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 3#2be1867b

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by factsonly
Sun May 15, 2022 6:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL adds MCO-AMS for NW22
Replies: 20
Views: 5249

Re: DL adds MCO-AMS for NW22

VS and BA have that market cornered. No they don't. LON, yes. UK, no. AMS is jokingly called " the UK's biggest hub " for a reason. It's not at all inconceivable that DL/AMS would be pulling tons of UK connecting pax and channeling them into MCO/Florida as a whole. This is just it !! Reme...

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by factsonly
Fri May 13, 2022 7:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 225
Views: 59089

Re: Garuda News and Discussion Thread

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... g#2bce6086

The return service will depart Andrews Air Force Base on May 13th to operate: ADW-AMS-CGK.

- Flight GA1 B77W PK-GIG ADW 19.50 - 09.30 AMS 11.00 - 05.50 CGK
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May 13th, 2022:

Correction, on May 10th PK-GIG operated to Andrews Air Force Base.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... g#2bce6086

The return service will depart Andrews Air Force Base on May 13th to operate: ADW-AMS-CGK.

- Flight GA1 B77W PK-GIG ADW 19.50 - 09.30 AMS 11.00 - 05.50 CGK

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by factsonly
Tue May 10, 2022 7:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Garuda News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 225
Views: 59089

Re: Garuda News and Discussion Thread

https://www.flightradar24.com/GIA1/2bce6086
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May 10th, 2022:

Garuda B77W PK-GIG is operating CGK-AMS-IAD on Government business today, as GA1:

https://www.flightradar24.com/GIA1/2bce6086

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by factsonly
Mon May 09, 2022 11:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why does Bern Airport (LSZB) not work?
Replies: 21
Views: 3690

Re: Why does Bern Airport (LSZB) not work?

Hi everyone, Given that Bern is the defacto capital of Switzerland and has an airport it has no scheduled service to any European hub. I could imagine that people would fly to CDG,AMS, LHR and FRA. Same reason why the City of The Hague - government centre of the Netherlands - closed its local airpo...

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by factsonly
Fri May 06, 2022 7:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 408
Views: 125311

Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

The performance of each individual LH Group airline is of interest, as both OS and Eurowings actually performed worse in Q1 2022, than in Q1 2021. While SWISS outperformed the other LH Group carriers in Q1 2022 by a large margin. Adjusted EBIT (in EUR m) for Q1 2022 / and for Q1 2021 / Change in % -...

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by factsonly
Thu May 05, 2022 8:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France/KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 227
Views: 47948

Re: Air France/KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Following a profitable 2nd Quarter, KLM makes a first 32% repayment on its Euro 942 Million government COVID loan. KLM only drew €942 million from the total Euro 3.4 Billion loan package available. The repayment in the second quarter is €311 million, which reduces the outstanding debt of this loan p...

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by factsonly
Wed May 04, 2022 9:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic Aviation Thread - 2022
Replies: 347
Views: 64982

Re: Nordic Aviation Thread - 2022

BLL’s catchment area is basically everything west of Copenhagen (alright I exaggerate… but only a little). That includes all the other major cities including most of Aarhus and a significant chunk of Aalborg and Odense traffic. So all of the above plus Danish tourists, transfers to long haul, etc. ...

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by factsonly
Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IB Express at LGW
Replies: 8
Views: 2821

Re: IB Express at LGW

Many airlines are suffering labour and equipment shortages following 2 years of COVID flight reductions. Former airline staff have found employment elsewhere and are reluctant to return to a cyclical and now lower pay industry, fearing new employment reductions in the future. So airlines everywhere ...

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by factsonly
Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 472
Views: 106732

Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

The UK has lost automatic and beneficial EU carrier access to Linate ;) Please kindly provide official source on your claim. If I understand correctly, BA still runs LHR-LIN flights. That is contrary to your claim. RUTANKRD is correct. UK airlines can no longer obtain 'NEW' LIN slots, while there i...

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by factsonly
Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: World's busiest airports announced, ATL regains title, no Europe in top10
Replies: 71
Views: 12547

Re: World's busiest airports announced, ATL regains title, no Europe in top10

Just to add to the discussion, the EUROCONTROL report below contains the latest world airport list (2nd week April 2022) based on aircraft movements - see page 21: The top 10 airports for aircraft movements are currently all in the USA, with AMS as #11, DEL #12, LHR #13, CDG #14, EWR #15th. Because ...

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by factsonly
Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic Aviation Thread - 2022
Replies: 347
Views: 64982

Re: Nordic Aviation Thread - 2022

Copenhagen Airport - Traffic March 2022

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by factsonly
Sat Apr 02, 2022 2:46 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: US - UK Airline Market Share
Replies: 11
Views: 1992

Re: US - UK Airline Market Share

Hey All, I hope you're all good! So I came across this article on Simple Flying stating how BA is the fourth largest carrier to the US from the UK with UA, DL and AA coming in at first, second and third respectively. I've always thought that BA had the biggest share and offered the most seat, capac...

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by factsonly
Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ICAO approves creation of Doha FIR
Replies: 14
Views: 4125

Re: ICAO approves creation of Doha FIR

Just what the aviation community needs, a further fragmentation of global airspace. The world has invested decades in harmonising and 'defragmenting' global airspace by breaking down national borders. With today's highly capable satellite technology, FIR's - as we know them - are seriously "Out...

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by factsonly
Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Before current Alliance’s and JV’s
Replies: 20
Views: 2920

Re: Before current Alliance’s and JV’s

Yes, although KLM only started flying to YYC in 2009 and to YEG in 2014. This is incorrect. KLM initially joined CPAir on AMS-YYC-YVR with its DC10-30 in 1987, CPAir operated the AMS-XXX-YVR route daily with its DC10's at that time. In 1989 Wardair even joined the two scheduled carriers on a 2x wee...

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by factsonly
Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 472
Views: 106732

Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

British Airways is in the process of relaunches LGW shorthaul services: - 28 Mar 2022 LHR 18.15 - LGW 18.36 BA9251 A320 G-GATU - 29 Mar 2022 LGW 07.35 - AMS 10.05 BA2824 A320 G-GATU - 29 Mar 2022 AMS 10.50 - LGW 11.10 BA2825 A320 G-GATU https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-gatu One BA A320 ...

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by factsonly
Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Before current Alliance’s and JV’s
Replies: 20
Views: 2920

Re: Before current Alliance’s and JV’s

Prior to Joint Ventures and Alliances, several major global airlines entered into 'cooperative' agreements focussed on technical assistence and/or commercial partnerships to support the development of national airlines. The cooperation focussed on aircraft operations, maintenance, sales and marketin...

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by factsonly
Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flybe News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1004
Views: 163503

Re: Flybe News and Discussion Thread

Interesting scheduling by FlyBe, as one of its BHD based aircraft actually overnights at AMS: - BHD 14.30 - 17.25 AMS 19.10 - 19.35 LHR 20.20 - 22.45 AMS overnight AMS 10.10 - 10.35 LHR 11.20 - 13.45 AMS 14.25 - 15.20 BHD While a BHX based aircraft operates: - BHX 10.25 - 12.50 AMS 13.35 - 14.05 EMA...

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by factsonly
Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 472
Views: 106732

Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Scotland is probably the one part of the UK where BA holds its own. AF/KLM/DL remains surprisingly strong in Scotland with 18x daily departures in Summer 2022 (BA 27x): - GLA 3x daily: AMS - EDI 8x daily: AMS, CDG, BOS, JFK - ABZ 5x daily: AMS - INV 2x daily: AMS With AMS and CDG out performing LHR...

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by factsonly
Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France/KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 227
Views: 47948

Re: Air France/KLM News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Air France/KLM drops 3x daily E190 SXB-AMS on April 8, 2022, as the route becomes a PSO route for the European Parliament operated 2x daily by Amelia Airlines with an Embraer 145: Amelia (Regourd Aviation group) is a French aeronautical group committed to providing top-notch customer experience, dra...

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by factsonly
Wed Mar 16, 2022 9:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic Aviation Thread - 2022
Replies: 347
Views: 64982

Re: Nordic Aviation Thread - 2022

https://www.flightradar24.com/FOX7027/2b27c874
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Flyr first visit to AMS today, operating a çharter service Bodo-AMS:

- BOO 10.00 - AMS 12.26 FS7027 Flyr B738 LN-FGB
- AMS 13.40 - OSL 15.23 FS7028 Flyr B738 LN-FGB

https://www.flightradar24.com/FOX7027/2b27c874

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by factsonly
Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 472
Views: 106732

Re: British Airways News and Discussion Thread - 2022

The proposed BA / KLM merger did not happen because KLM held out for a disproportionate level of control of BA. BA did not want control of KLM, and did not want to take over KLM. I strongly suspect that KLM walked away from BA because the Dutch airline believed that it could get a better deal with ...

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by factsonly
Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Civil Aviation *News Feed* Thread
Replies: 144
Views: 114053

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Civil Aviation *News Feed* Thread

13 March 2022: Nippon Cargo Airlines relaunched its Japan to Europe flights today, now routing its services over Anchorage: - 13 Mar 2022 KZ4 NRT 17.55 - 08.00 ANC 09.25 - 03.20 AMS B748 JA18KZ NCA halted all cargo flights from Japan to Europe when airspace closures occured. Anchorage is a regular N...

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by factsonly
Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic Aviation Thread - 2022
Replies: 347
Views: 64982

Re: Nordic Aviation Thread - 2022

Copenhagen Airport - February 2022:

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by factsonly
Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeroflot SU1006 SVO-KGD squawking 7700
Replies: 1
Views: 2798

Re: Aeroflot SU1006 SVO-KGD squawking 7700

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... w#2b17a54c
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Aeroflot A320 VQ-BPW is operating its return service SU 1007 to SVO without delay:

- 10 Mar 2022 KGD - SVO SU1007 A320 VQ-BPW — sched arrival time 23:59 - Estimated 23:33

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... w#2b17a54c

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by factsonly
Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Jordanian announces Toronto and increases Detroit
Replies: 36
Views: 6213

Re: Royal Jordanian announces Toronto and increases Detroit

NW applied for rights to do DTW-BGW nonstop NW applied for and published a proposed schedule DTW-AMS-BGW, as the route would have been operated in cooperation with KLM. The AMS stop permitted NW/NW connections from BOS, JFK, MSP, MEM, PHL, SEA, as well as many NW/KL codeshare connections https://ww...

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by factsonly
Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Civil Aviation *News Feed* Thread
Replies: 144
Views: 114053

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Civil Aviation *News Feed* Thread

KLM has evacuated 287 Ukranian holiday makers stuck in the Dominican Republic, as their Ukranian airline is no longer operational. - 04 Mar 2022 POS 21.02 - PUJ 21.37 KLM9865 A333 KLM PH-AKB - 04 Mar 2022 PUJ 23.49 - AMS 12.21 KLM9866 A333 KLM PH-AKB https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-ak...

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by factsonly
Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Fleet Thread - 2022
Replies: 884
Views: 171719

Re: Delta Fleet Thread - 2022

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n189dn
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Delta B767-300 N189DN operating for CMB - US military:

- 28 Feb 2022 JFK - SVN DL8820 B763 N189DN
- 01 Mar 2022 SVN - NUE DL8956 B763 N189DN
- 01 Mar 2022 NUE - FRA DL8956 B763 N189DN
- 02 Mar 2022 FRA - JFK DL8820 B763 N189DN

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n189dn

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by factsonly
Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 3/22: And then, this happened ...
Replies: 301
Views: 42136

Re: Irish 3/22: And then, this happened ...

https://data.cso.ie/
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ClassicLover wrote:

Does anyone know if the traffic figures for the route are published anywhere?


Air Traffic data can be found at the Central Statistics Office:

https://data.cso.ie/

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by factsonly
Wed Mar 02, 2022 7:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Civil Aviation Related *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 782
Views: 244058

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Civil Aviation Related *Discussion* Thread

March 2nd, 2022: Aeroflot is operating an A359 from SVO to Cancun over Murmansk: - SU158 SVO 09.08 - CUN 13.42 A350-941 VQ-BFY https://www.flightradar24.com/AFL158/2afe0f51 While Nordwind continues to operate LED-PUJ and PMV-SVO over Murmansk according to FR24: https://www.flightradar24.com/KAR1550/...

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by factsonly
Mon Feb 28, 2022 11:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Russian planes stuck outside Russia
Replies: 98
Views: 36817

Re: Russian planes stuck outside Russia

Aeroflot and AirBridge Cargo are operating all the way around Scandinavia and Finland over the Barents Sea to Murmansk and than down to Moscow. Aeroflot SU159 A359 CUN-SVO: https://www.flightradar24.com/AFL159/2af74178 Air Bridge Cargo RU708 B748 ORD-SVO: https://www.flightradar24.com/ABW708/2af7366...

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by factsonly
Sun Feb 27, 2022 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Civil Aviation Related *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 782
Views: 244058

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Civil Aviation Related Discussion Thread

It's turning back now. When you say "it's" turning back now, are you referring to an Aeroflot flight to the US? Aeroflot 124 SVO-JFK turned around just before reaching Greenland. - SU124 SVO 15.55 - JFK 18.45 Boeing 777-3M0(ER) VP-BHA = DIVERTING TO MOSCOW (SVO) https://www.flightradar24....

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by factsonly
Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Civil Aviation Related *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 782
Views: 244058

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - Civil Aviation Related Discussion Thread

how far SU operation affected? Sunday - February 27, 2022: Aeroflot flight AFL2152 SVO-DUS diverted to AMS to avoid the sudden closure of German airspace for Russian operated aircraft. However The Netherlands followed the German example pretty quickly and A320 VP-BAC seems to have become stuck at A...

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by factsonly
Sat Feb 26, 2022 3:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How likely for Russian airspace to be closed again?
Replies: 228
Views: 46455

Re: How likely for Russian airspace to be closed again?

It looks like two KLM flights (KL903 and KL1395) diverted shortly before arrival in Russia. Netherlands Press is now reporting that KLM HQ called both flights back just before their arrival in SVO and LED. The reason being that spare parts are no longer permitted into Russia and KLM can therefore n...

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by factsonly
Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Storm Eunice thread
Replies: 40
Views: 8025

Re: Storm Eunice thread

https://www.airporthistory.org/blue-con ... previous/3
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SEU wrote:

Since about 10am local time, there has been more go arounds than successful landings at LHR, ratio nearly 3:1. Lot's of wind sheer warnings by the looks of it.


This is one of those few days LHR may regret closing its 05/23 runway.

https://www.airporthistory.org/blue-con ... previous/3

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by factsonly
Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2022
Replies: 523
Views: 113469

Re: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2022

AC operating a number of YYZ-AMS-IST-AMS-YYZ A333 Cargo services: - 17 Feb 2022 YYZ 01.03 - AMS 13.21 AC7222 A333 C-GHKC - 17 Feb 2022 AMS 13.30 - IST 18.45 AC7222 A333 C-GHKC - 17 Feb 2022 IST 21.45 - AMS 23.25 AC7223 A333 C-GHKC - 18 Feb 2022 AMS 00.45 - YYZ 02.30 AC7223 A333 C-GHKC Also planned f...

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by factsonly
Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Icelandic start up: Nice Air
Replies: 48
Views: 8836

Re: New Icelandic start up: Nice Air

AEY handling an A321 a dozen times a year can be treated as an exception. An A320 flying to AEY perhaps 5x per week creates rather more disruption to operations in the terminal. Yes, in a few years time AEY will be larger and able to handle an A320 effectively.... but will it be able to handle an A...

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by factsonly
Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Civil aviation in Ukraine, airspace closed due to "high risk of aviation security for civil aviation"
Replies: 100
Views: 22701

Re: Civil aviation in Ukraine during heightened tension from Russia

Cancellations for Tuesday February 15th, 2022:

Arrivals in Kiev KBP:
- 11:20 Paris ORY VY8106 A321 - cancelled

feel free to add

Source: Fr24

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by factsonly
Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM stopped flying to Kiev
Replies: 44
Views: 9995

Re: KLM stopped flying to Kiev

There will no doubt be Ukrainians trying to get in or out, amongst other things. TK was the last to leave Kabul recently (although QR operated some specific charter flights and cargo trips to Kabul also). Someone has to be the last to leave, I’d bet on Wizz Air given their base location a. If airli...

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by factsonly
Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA, IAG And Brexit.
Replies: 6
Views: 1692

Re: BA, IAG And Brexit.

Arion640 wrote:

The bigger question for me is, if the EU is made up of 27 co-operative member states why are France and Germany allowed to throw their opinion around and say what goes for everyone?



How about the other 25 nations agree with Germany and France, as the UK decided to exit the EU.

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by factsonly
Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic Aviation Thread - 2022
Replies: 347
Views: 64982

Re: Nordic Aviation Thread - 2022

Copenhagen Airport - January 2022 performance:

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by factsonly
Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2022
Replies: 85
Views: 15934

Re: Spanish Aviation Thread - 2022

https://www.flightradar24.com/ANE2059/2ac4937f
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Interesting Air Nostrum service from Barcelona to Kittila in Northern Finland on February 10th, 2022:

- IB2059 BCN 06.05 - KTT 10.50 CRJ-1000 EC-MNQ - Flying time 3hr50min. distance 3.250km

https://www.flightradar24.com/ANE2059/2ac4937f

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by factsonly
Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Titan Airways - 2021/22 information.
Replies: 12
Views: 2459

Re: Titan Airways - 2021/22 information.

Apart from a contract to operate both A321 and A330 on behalf of the UK Government, Titan also operates an A330-300F on behalf of GEODIS on two freighter routes: - STN-TAS-CGO-TAS-STN-AMS 2x weekly - AMS-ORD-AMS-STN 3x weekly The AMS-ORD service is sometimes operated over ARN on the return. http://w...

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by factsonly
Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 1/22: Brave new beginnings
Replies: 208
Views: 30324

Re: Irish 1/22: Brave new beginnings

Is it possible TK are having financial difficulties due to the collapse of the Turkish currency? For example if they are paying for planes and fuel in USD then their costs will have doubled recently in those areas. TK has larger dollar earnings than it has dollar costs, so the airline is actually m...

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by factsonly
Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Using the same IATA code
Replies: 30
Views: 4009

Re: Using the same IATA code

Using KLM Asia as an example doesn't fit the OP's scenario of airline A creating a subsidiary in B to fly to C, D, E... KLM Asia is creating a subsidiary in B to fly to A. That flight stops in BKK (C), but there are no local traffic rights. However, if KLM Asia flew TPE-MNL/SIN/NRT then that would ...

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by factsonly
Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Using the same IATA code
Replies: 30
Views: 4009

Re: Using the same IATA code

Not entirely sure if that’s a good example. KLM Asia is registered in the same country as KLM, operating Dutch registered aircraft out of the same base. No different than KLM Cityhopper for comparison. (Off topic, didn’t AF operate CDG-TPE also pre-COVID?) Sorry, but your information is incorrect !...

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by factsonly
Wed Jan 26, 2022 8:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Using the same IATA code
Replies: 30
Views: 4009

Re: Using the same IATA code

Hi! I have a hypothetical question regarding IATA airlines codes: Can two separate international airlines within the airline group use the same IATA code? To expand and give some explanation to the question: Say an airline group/holding company has an international "Airline 1" registered ...

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