Re: Pilots' open letters to the public & picketing at airports

Well, in the Netherland, around 5% of all employees get paid more than 100.000euro's. Pilots as a group are paid in the region of 130.000 - 150.000 on average. I do no think they are in the top 5% of jobs that society needs. So I see a mismatch there. But, you didn't answer my questions. I can get ...

Re: JetBlue Makes Hostile Takeover Offer for Spirit

This was sent by SPIRITS ALPA to their CEO. And, WOW! I think they are not thrilled about having to go back and work for Indigo. I don't quite read it like that, but it is an interesting take. Without a JCBA nothing is going through. Pilots aren't going to vote for a combined contract with the curr...

Re: Detroit (DTW) Aviation Thread - 2022

I am not sure why whatever F9 is doing in ORD or CLE is even really relevant to what a combined NK+F9 would do at DTW. F9 is capturing O&D there, just like what NK is mostly doing in DTW today. I just don't see a scenario where whatever happens with the love triangle of F9, B6, NK really change...

Re: Indianapolis & St. Louis (American & Delta) & My ATP Checkride

Congrats on the check ride!

Re: JAC Closure

Q wrote:

Why can't some airlines use relocation at Yellowstone Airport (KWYS) or Driggs, ID (KDIJ) is much closer but the runway width is too narrow for Airbus 319 I am not sure if is A319 eligible to land for 75 width?

Q

Re: JetBlue bids 3.6B for Spirit

sea13 wrote:

JetSpirit? SpiritJet? JetBlue? Spirit?

Re: Frontier and Spirit to Merge!

, but Allegiant has always had their Phoenix operation at AZA (Mesa Gateway Airport). I was going off of the list of Airlines that serve SkyHarbor off of the SkyHarbor website. It might be out of date, who knows? Yeah, airlines and routes come and go. Demographics change as well. The past isn't alw...

Re: Detroit (DTW) Aviation Thread - 2022

SAN, MSP, BWI and PHL all resume on June 22, just in time for peak summer travel. Tried seasonal service last year to PHX, the first time that I can recall, and resumed this past winter. That’s a win. Miami was also recently added. MCI, OAK, DEN, PBI and BOS have lost service from Spirit. However, ...

Re: Too much fuel?

Most likely landing weight on that short of a leg. Going lower would burn more fuel off, it wasn't an issue of being too heavy to make it to 36,000'. Helps to just stay low.

Re: Spirit Airlines News and Discussion Thread - 2022

A few one off flights for the Kentucky Derby are loaded as well. Travel to SDF on 5/5, returns on 5/8. DTW, ORD, BWI at a quick check.

Re: Right and left-handed pilots and side sticks?

I thought it would be strange on the Airbus but I ended up not noticing it one bit.

Re: Do some jetliners need to level off after takeoff climb to build speed for flap retraction?

Heavy 727-200 with -9 engines when hot and high, yes for sure.

Re: On FlightAware I have never seen aircraft land on Runway 13 at LGA

I've done 13 before, you fly basically up the Hudson then they give a left 270 turn to join the ILS. Just a different view of the airport when you see it. I recall doing it the day before the DL MD88 went off the side of 13 landing in the snow. That sounds more like the River Visual 13, where you t...

Re: On FlightAware I have never seen aircraft land on Runway 13 at LGA

I've done 13 before, you fly basically up the Hudson then they give a left 270 turn to join the ILS. Just a different view of the airport when you see it. I recall doing it the day before the DL MD88 went off the side of 13 landing in the snow.

Re: Rule-of-thumb for when to extend flaps?

I was looking at a table of Maximum Flap Extended Speeds for the Boeing 727. I am assuming one doesn't lower them right on these speeds. Is there a rule-of-thumb on what speed to lower them? Ten knows below these speeds of some other rule? Flaps 2 - 245 KIAS Flaps 5 - 230 KIAS Flaps 15 - 205 KIAS F...

Re: Rule-of-thumb for when to extend flaps?

I was looking at a table of Maximum Flap Extended Speeds for the Boeing 727. I am assuming one doesn't lower them right on these speeds. Is there a rule-of-thumb on what speed to lower them? Ten knows below these speeds of some other rule? Flaps 2 - 245 KIAS Flaps 5 - 230 KIAS Flaps 15 - 205 KIAS F...

Re: What Is the Minimum Runway Width for Airline Service?

LBE(Latrobe, PA)was 98' until a year or two back. Went in there quite a few times in the A320 before it was widened to 150'. I always felt like I was back in my part 135 days going into a small airport even though the runway was plenty long. I did one of my OE flights into there as a brand new FO an...

Re: Incident at ORD. CI 744F has close encounter with ground equipment

kordcj wrote:

They were complying with the unwritten ORD rule. Never stop!
Is it generally acceptable to send aircraft onto snow covered taxiways where markings may not be visible?

Re: Frontier and Spirit to Merge!

In the event of a merger what would be most likely; ACY base merges with PHL/TTN Both of the ACY and PHL/TTN continue to operate separately ACY base closes I think post-merger that the F9 MIA base will close and will default to the nearby NK base at FLL. However, I think the combined airline will s...

Re: Frontier and Spirit to Merge!

capejet wrote:

Where are the Pilot and Flight Attendant Crew bases for the 2 airlines currently located?

Re: Frontier and Spirit to Merge!

So which livery will survive do you think. My vote goes to F9 keeping the livery. A388 I think they keep the F9 livery but standardize the tail. Having all those different F9 tails is more expensive than having a consistent scheme. Now imagine the costs when they combine the fleet? The animals are ...

Re: Detroit (DTW) Aviation Thread - 2022

iFlyDTW wrote:

Taking a look at Spirit's schedule, OAK and DEN appear to be done. Rumors are they will vacate the maintenance hangar and close the crew base within the next year.

Re: Frontier and Spirit to Merge!

LightChop2Chop wrote:

MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:

Also will the combined entity be based in south Florida or Denver?

NK has some nice new Digs in Miramar. One would assume that is where they base.

Re: Engine Start Procedure. Which one first?

On the 727 it was "engine start sequence, 3, 2, 1...make it so" and it was done as I requested.

Re: High power settings on the 727 during approach and landing due to drag for dirty condition or for quick spool up.

Yeah, it was hard to grease on. Sometimes you thought it would a good one and it would just crunch pavement. Other times I have winced and it just brushed on. I tried every trick in the book, it was just a temperamental airplane! Also you are right about the spool up, you always wanted to carry thru...

Re: Ex-easyJet A319s going to United

I'm thinking there was a change in plans for them. A few years back they were looking at buying NK's fleet of 319's to operate but it fell through.

Re: On the DC-10, what is the function of the "gear horn off" button other than the obvious.

It was the engineer’s job to silence the horn on the 727. Not taught anytime before the captain on your first flight growled, “why didn’t silence the horn”. I had one FE think it was cute to wedge a tic tac container under it to keep it from going off. After a quick a-- chewing I don't think he eve...

Re: Learjet Crash December 27 2021 in San Diego/ Gillespie - audio/video

Nope, as a whole, it isn't. I look back at my 135 days and I did stuff I wouldn't dream of doing today because I just thought it was the way it was done. The Lear wing is very unforgiving on the 30 Series, especially down low and slow while circling and fully configured. The Learjet will get you in...

Re: Learjet Crash December 27 2021 in San Diego/ Gillespie - audio/video

https://imgur.com/5OwjsXZ The Stable Approach principle and criteria is clearly not prevalent amongst Part 91/135 operators. Nope, as a whole, it isn't. I look back at my 135 days and I did stuff I wouldn't dream of doing today because I just thought it was the way it was done. The Lear wing is ver...

Re: Very basic question for pilots: How do airliners slow down when they are already at flight idle?

Do any aircraft prohibit simultaneous use of speed brakes and flaps? In my experience, the speed brakes usually get stowed before flaps are extended but I'm not sure if this is required or just a choice by the crews. B727 didn’t allow the combination of flaps and speed brakes, most newer types do w...

Re: Very basic question for pilots: How do airliners slow down when they are already at flight idle?

I imagine any pilot could answer this. At the bottom of the initial descent portion of a flight and when the wings are still clean and the power is at flight idle, how do you slow the aircraft down? Does an aircraft slow when it is leveled off? Raise the nose? I think someone told me that dumping t...

Re: site where I can find old airliner kit for cheaper than 80€ beside oldmodelkit?

thebunkerparodi wrote:

thanks but note that I'm from france so the shipping cost might be too high for me (never understood why it's so high between europe and the US on ebay)

Re: site where I can find old airliner kit for cheaper than 80€ beside oldmodelkit?

the old 200/100 kit, I already know where I can get the SAS cutaway (wich I'll get for christmas and do with a what if interior base on boeing brochure from theairchives) Per example https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/2/8/0/140280-14745-15-pristine.jpg https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/2...

Re: site where I can find old airliner kit for cheaper than 80€ beside oldmodelkit?

Which one are you looking for?

Re: DTW Detroit Aviation Thread - 2021

DaveMetroD wrote:

Landing on the 27's right now. Sustained west winds 43 mph gust to 64 mph at the NWS DTW reporting station at 10:53 AM EST.
Flight Radar showing some go arounds.

Re: Jeffery Epstien's 727

They were quite possibly leased engines so they went back to the owner to be used on other 727's out there. The limiting factor on 727 operators is going to be the lack of turbines on overhauls. That is what will, in the end, kill the plane and send it into history. I'm guessing within 5 years.

Re: Teal Color Inside A320neo Pratt & Whitney Engines

I don't have any easily findable close up pics from walk arounds but the blades wear into it. On brand new engines it is an extremely tight fit. As time goes on the fan wears into it and cuts a groove. The material is kind of like a PVC plastic density.

Re: Does anybody know how much money is made from breaking down airliners and selling the scrap?

I recall my operator getting about $50,000 in scrap about 20 years ago for a former AA 727-200. That was after all useful parts and flight control surfaces were picked off.

Re: Do manufacturers/airlines "update" the flight computer systems

At my employer we are preparing for the FMS2 Release 2 coming to the A320 series fleet. I think it includes some performance modifications that include better descent management that is non-linear and more efficient. I also hear that we will have "the bird" on the PFD along with the FD bar...

Re: Can 747s really use flaps even with total hydraulic loss and if so why isnt this on other aircraft?

The A380 and A350 are also flyable with a total hydraulics loss as well I believe. I will speak for the narrow body Airbus, it is "flyable" with a total hydraulic loss, not sure if it's going to be land-able. There is a mechanical backup for the rudder and THS. I heard recently in the sch...

Re: Can 747s really use flaps even with total hydraulic loss and if so why isnt this on other aircraft?

The 727 had alternate flaps as well. The trailing edge flaps were off a standby electric pump and they took forever to move. The LE would come down as well but in random order and were locked down when finished, they couldn't be retracted in the alternate mode but the trailing edge could. Again it w...

Re: Restrictions on #2 Thrust Reverse L1011/DC10/MD11

Had a friend that flew the DC-10 at Gemini and some Captains had an unofficial rule that if they were operating in remote places like Africa, not to use the #2 reverser on landing because of the problematic nature of locking the thing out being such a pain.

Re: Is this sound from the APU compressor or the main powerplant compressor?

Hmm I must be misremembering the location then! I have decided that the brain has limited capacity and once that capacity has been reached, new things bump out old things. The catch: it's not a first-in, first-out process. The brain randomly kicks out data to accommodate the new data. I completely ...

Re: Is this sound from the APU compressor or the main powerplant compressor?

Those are the packs you can hear in that location as well as the pack cooling fans. The pack cooling fans turn off automatically after the flaps are retracted. I was thinking pack fans also. The hydraulic pumps tend to whine and change pitch a little bit, even under steady load. Though, didn’t the ...

Re: Is this sound from the APU compressor or the main powerplant compressor?

Those are the packs you can hear in that location as well as the pack cooling fans. The pack cooling fans turn off automatically after the flaps are retracted. The APU exhaust is right outside that window, exiting out the top of the right hand wing right near the fuselage. The APU is not able to be ...

Re: Who had hangars at DTW

ATA also had one on the West side as well. That’s the one I couldn’t remember who’s it was. The one with the hangar doors that faced south / southwest, correct? Yep, that's the one. Pretty oddball too, but if you think about it they had a lot of flights out of DTW in the 90's. L-1011's doing summer...

Re: Who had hangars at DTW

ATA also had one on the West side as well.

Re: 121.5 now a political forum in US

Yeah I used to think the meowing was annoying, now this. I wonder what the next phrase will be, when will it end? I have no political leanings whatsoever, it just doesn't interest me one bit. I try and steer conversations towards normal topics or if that doesn't work, flip through the FOM and try to...

Re: Use of rudder in commercial aircraft

hitower3 wrote:

Oh yeah, engine out seems logical.
Isn't Airbus FBW trained to compensate asymmetric thrust automatically, though?

Re: Did the Pilots forget to retract the landing gears here ?

Pretty common on hot days in places like Las Vegas to do in the A320 after a long taxi(we don't have brake fans on like 80% of the fleet). If the brake temps were close to the 300C limit we would delay retraction for them to cool. Once they are retracted you would be surprised at cruise, even on a 3...