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by alfa164
Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2024 Eclipse Travel Impact
Replies: 26
Views: 4271

Re: FAA issues eclipse travel impact

Why? Because the last solar eclipse in 2017 was an absolute GA nightmare. Some centers ran out of squawk codes. Many facilities are having to staff additional controllers for this event in preparation for the massive influx of GA again. Is the biggest problem limited to GA traffic flying to and lan...

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by alfa164
Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Delta Uniforms and services
Replies: 103
Views: 18666

Re: New Delta Uniforms and services

https://imgur.com/gallery/dRQrlum


"Suddenly, it is 1950"...
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StinkyPinky wrote:
Another screenshot found online, with a better idea of what they'll look like...
https://imgur.com/gallery/dRQrlum


"Suddenly, it is 1950"...

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by alfa164
Sat Mar 09, 2024 10:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Former Global Crossing Chief to start Florida based A220 airline: Air Flo
Replies: 62
Views: 8763

Re: Former Global Crossing Chief to start Florida based A220 airline: Air Flo

I’m not sure that name will work well. Seems like it’d be a headache of an airline, with cramped seats and irritable employees. The red paint scheme also might not work with the Florida heat. "Air Flo" sounds more like an HVAC company; maybe a little more though needs to go into that name.

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by alfa164
Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: SAT Air Service Announcement
Replies: 82
Views: 9155

Re: Rumor: SAT Air Service Announcement

https://x.com/MaxMasseyTV/status/176469 ... 48777?s=20
SAT Airport announces new logo and branding


Did they not also mention the new non-stop to Inchon in the same press release?

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ausinTex wrote:
OMG!!!!! BIG announcement!!!!! https://x.com/MaxMasseyTV/status/176469 ... 48777?s=20
SAT Airport announces new logo and branding


Did they not also mention the new non-stop to Inchon in the same press release?

:lol:

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by alfa164
Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to Brisbane
Replies: 144
Views: 14709

Re: Delta to Brisbane

That's my question. If UA can only make LAX-BNE work on a seasonal basis with a large hub at LAX, and with QF already on the route (not to mention AA's upcoming DFW-BNE service), I'm not sure what DL's thinking here. My guess is that they view MEL as too saturated, because that would be the obvious...

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by alfa164
Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Moroccan domestic air market
Replies: 21
Views: 2663

Re: Moroccan domestic air market

davidjohnson6 wrote:
The money spent on high-speed rail will become a financial debt owed by Morocco to China. That debt will need to be repaid either financially or via other non-financial means.


"Never look a gift iron horse in the eye"?

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by alfa164
Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American airlines announcement 2/1
Replies: 229
Views: 28338

Re: American airlines announcement 2/1

eta unknown wrote:
So the wool scarf and hat in the pictures is for...
a) Tokyo in winter?
b) clothes you need when you return to the USA in winter??


They were just trying to pull the wool over your eyes...

;)

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by alfa164
Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings
Replies: 247
Views: 41051

Re: US carriers 4th quarter 2023 earnings

So basically it boils down to the fact that a maintenance tech in Tulsa gets better pay and benefits than one in El Salvador. And a reservations agent in North Carolina gets better pay and benefits than one in India. And you can say the same about an AMT in ATL for DL and one in SFO for UA. And non...

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by alfa164
Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DOT ending Delta-Aeromexico ATI
Replies: 39
Views: 8214

Re: DOT ending Delta-Aeromexico ATI

I would have to assume that if the Mexican government creates a more transparent slot allocation process for MEX that the decision would be reversed. It's effectively a tit-for-tat, but if Delta is benefiting unfairly from an ATI that's also completely blocking competition, then termination of the ...

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by alfa164
Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus Looking for Potential Delivery Spots for United
Replies: 400
Views: 70549

Re: Airbus Looking for Potential Delivery Spots for United

I would think Spirit would be begging for relief from having to take planes… Not only that; you have to wonder if Airbus isn't a little queasy about whether or not Spirit (and IndiGo... and Frontier...) will actually be able to accept all of the planes they have on order, considering the financial ...

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by alfa164
Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024
Replies: 804
Views: 144319

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

NW served DTW and MSP from RIC for years. DL has served ATL, LGA, JFK, BOS for years. Net change is less flights and capacity to DTW which is hard to fathom. Since that time RIC as added mainline nonstops to LAX, LAS, SFO, DEN, TPA, IAH, MIA, FLL, MDW, CHS, BNA and I'm probably missing some. RIC ai...

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by alfa164
Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta develops AUS focus city with expansion
Replies: 435
Views: 55255

Re: Delta develops AUS focus city with expansion

You are actually incorrect about Delta's ambitions in BOS. I was personally involved in the Terminal A project negotiations with Massport. The justification for the entire project was that BOS was to become a Delta hub and international gateway. That was always the plan. It just got derailed by the...

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by alfa164
Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta develops AUS focus city with expansion
Replies: 435
Views: 55255

Re: Delta develops AUS focus city with expansion

warpedreality wrote:
Any chance these P2P flights are intended to sway the favor of any pols in the TX legislature?


I am not sure why Delta would be particularly interested in "swaying" the Texas Legislature. The Georgia Legislature, surely, but what benefit would they expect in Texas?

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by alfa164
Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:32 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Is there a reason why leather seats are popular in the US?
Replies: 35
Views: 7341

Re: Is there a reason why leather seats are popular in the US?

Leather is associated with being more premium in the U.S., certainly with cars which of course America has long needed and had a lot of. When JetBlue rolled out, "leather seats and TV's" was part of how they positioned themselves as unique and upmarket, Song and Virgin America followed su...

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by alfa164
Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska / Hawaiian Air Merger Discussion
Replies: 1212
Views: 168896

Re: AS to acquire HA; operate as separate brand.

Is there any chance the end goal final combined brand could be a 3rd brand? "Pacific Airlines" "Oceanic Airways" or something similar, acknowledging that Alaska or Hawaiian doesn't make too much sense for the combined airline? I think it'd be easy to say "Alaska Air and Haw...

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by alfa164
Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934715

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

TransWorldOne wrote:
N717TW wrote:
yes!

Not served last summer but previously served nonstop from the US:
SNN, MAN, PDL, ALC, STR, HAM, VIE, BUD, OSL, WAW, IST, and SVO

seven last summer but not previously:
NONE

Note: SNN is returning.


Also DBV, PSA, OTP, AGP, LYS, VLC


Don't forget KBP and HEL

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by alfa164
Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A capybara on the runway briefly shuts down Rio's SDU airport
Replies: 19
Views: 4034

Re: A capybara on the runway briefly shuts down Rio's SDU airport

It appears the animal had come from an island adjacent to the airport, where the Brazilian Navy has facilities. The rodent was returned to the island. https://aeroin.net/aviao-da-gol-arremete-no-santos-dumont-por-causa-de-capivara/ I am not an expert on Brazilian culture; maybe there is something s...

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by alfa164
Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:13 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Could Virgin America Return?
Replies: 40
Views: 9396

Re: Virgin America Returning?

TWA772LR wrote:
V America anyone?


I was thinking, "Fresh New Virgin"...

;)

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by alfa164
Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Flight attendants barricade galley in flight
Replies: 130
Views: 24697

Re: AA Flight attendants barricade galley in flight

Flight attendants need a break too, and there really isn't anywhere to go to take one away from your job on an airplane. You saw the cabin, everyone was settled in and the restrooms were not being blocked. The idea that people should be "ON" for 5 or 6 hours straight is ridiculous. Except...

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by alfa164
Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Wants KLM Out of JFK Over Slot Dispute
Replies: 403
Views: 53384

Re: JetBlue Wants KLM Out of JFK Over Slot Dispute

Delta/KLM are being cut by an infinitesimal percentage and allowed to continue their monopoly to the northeast United States. The consumer suffers as a result. Saying the same thing over and over, again and again, does not make it true. It is not right to say Delta/KLM have a "monopoly" i...

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by alfa164
Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Wants KLM Out of JFK Over Slot Dispute
Replies: 403
Views: 53384

Re: JetBlue Wants KLM Out of JFK Over Slot Dispute

Delta/KLM are being cut by an infinitesimal percentage and allowed to continue their monopoly to the northeast United States. The consumer suffers as a result. Saying the same thing over and over, again and again, does not make it true. It is not right to say Delta/KLM have a "monopoly" i...

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by alfa164
Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1081
Views: 228096

Re: JetBlue/Spirit Merger Discussion - 2023

The U.S. government has a century-old history of breaking up companies. See Standard Oil (link below) or AT&T. There's nothing that says the DOJ couldn't file suit to break up American, Delta, United or Southwest tomorrow. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Standard-Oil That's not to say the DOJ ...

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by alfa164
Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Wants KLM Out of JFK Over Slot Dispute
Replies: 403
Views: 53384

Re: JetBlue Wants KLM Out of JFK Over Slot Dispute

Oh it’s totally competitive! If jetblue is eliminated there are still 2 airlines on the largest US market to Amsterdam. I meant these 2 airlines share revenue, plan their schedules together, and are able to adjust capacity as a single entity, but they are TOTALLY competing. You overlook United, fly...

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by alfa164
Thu Oct 26, 2023 12:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US 3Q 2023 Earnings Thread
Replies: 148
Views: 28324

Re: US 3Q 2023 Earnings Thread

Even with a more compatible fleet I can't see AS being interested in buying HA. AS doesn't need a hub at HNL and HA doesn't really bring anything to their West Coast hubs/focus cities which AS doesn't or can't offer on its own. AS has a good relationship with Boeing so if they wanted 787s they coul...

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by alfa164
Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934715

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

Reality is SLC will continue to be a small-ish hub because of Delta's conservative nature, lack of O&D and needs at other hubs. A lot has been added at NYC, BOS, LAX with not a whole lot new at SLC the past few years. The opening of more gates is not going to change that. Reality is that nobody...

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by alfa164
Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF/KLM to buy a stake in SAS - leave Star and join Skyteam
Replies: 274
Views: 46335

Re: AF/KLM to buy SAS - leave Star and join Skyteam

Apart from northern Nordics (and there's not a lot of people in the north of the Nordics), Helsinki and the Baltics... where do you connect to via OSL or ARN ? Norway has been in NATO for a long time and Sweden recently joined NATO... I don't see Scandinavian - Russia relations improving for some t...

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by alfa164
Tue Oct 03, 2023 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934715

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

You have to assume DL knew AF/KL was bidding on SAS. I assume we'll see some upgrades to JFK-ARN/CPH and at least the addition of service from ATL if not MSP? I also wonder if DL might add a flight to OSL, once the AF/KL/SK partnership is in effect. SAS's three hubs - particularly ARN and OSL - cou...

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by alfa164
Tue Oct 03, 2023 4:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF/KLM to buy a stake in SAS - leave Star and join Skyteam
Replies: 274
Views: 46335

Re: AF/KLM to buy SAS - leave Star and join Skyteam

WOW! I would have never seen that coming! I wonder if the restrictions at AMS were a contributing factor. I realize this sort of deal takes months of preparation, but needing an additional hub - or hubs - may have expedited their thinking. While CPH is cramped and crowded, ARN is an excellent connec...

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by alfa164
Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:26 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airports with the least "O"-Passengers
Replies: 21
Views: 2303

Re: Airports with the least "O"-Passengers

He is only talking about origin, thus the O, not Destination-D traffic. But any "Destination" airport becomes an "Origin" airport when those passengers choose to go home. Let's keep it simple: - "Transfer" = passengers who are connecting through the airport; - "O&...

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by alfa164
Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:23 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airports with the least "O"-Passengers
Replies: 21
Views: 2303

Re: Airports with the least "O"-Passengers

Typically, airports have "Origin- and Destination" (O&D) and transfer passengers.. There are some big, major airports that have almost no O&D-passengers, such as Las Vegas or Venice/Italy. Using those two airports as an example; you have it exactly backward: almost everyone is an ...

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by alfa164
Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL loses passenger’s dog at ATL
Replies: 134
Views: 20832

Re: DL loses passenger’s dog at ATL

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlant ... HXTKIAA5U/


Great! I guess Tom Brady's first job was to find a Wide Retriever...

;)
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freakyrat wrote:
The passengers dog was found at ATL 40 minutes ago
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlant ... HXTKIAA5U/


Great! I guess Tom Brady's first job was to find a Wide Retriever...

;)

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by alfa164
Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934715

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

I sure have a lot of reasons to believe DL will get involved at some point (access to India plus EY's ownership of AZ and W9's old LHR slots), hence why I thought to post but I also have ZERO information to establish anything other than pure speculation. I think your speculation is well-founded. AF...

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by alfa164
Sun Sep 10, 2023 3:27 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18095
Views: 1507504

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

For every such Russian material, there's an equivalent Ukrainian report in which soldiers complain about the disaster of leadership on the front lines, how they're being sent to their deaths unprepared and unequipped. You only have to search Russian sources. Searching "Russian sources" is...

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by alfa164
Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening
Replies: 333
Views: 86210

Re: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening

Being discussed in the LA Basin Airports thread. This link was listed there which shows the rather banal connector: https://www.lawa.org/-/media/lawa-web/tenants411/guest-experience/files/cht2023/construction-hot-topics-082823.ashx "Banal" is the understatement of the day! I suspect that ...

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by alfa164
Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934715

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

I’ve seen on other threads that AA/DL are both getting 2 of the new weekly China frequencies, is that confirmed though? And any idea how they will be used if so? It seems UA is the only one who has officially said how many frequencies they got and how they plan to use them. Did UA say how many they...

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by alfa164
Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Brazil imposes a perimeter on Rio's SDU airport
Replies: 38
Views: 7959

Re: Brazil imposes a perimeter on Rio's SDU airport

TryToFlySomeday wrote:
What will happen to my reservation? Booked ORD-GRU-SDU and back a few weeks ago on UA and GOL interline agreement. Should I be worried?

It is effective next January. When are you traveling?

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by alfa164
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US, China agree to Double the number of Weekly Flights
Replies: 86
Views: 20314

Re: US, China agree to Double the number of Weekly Flights

PW1133G wrote:
So assuming everyone is going to go from 4 to 8?

Will be interesting to see if everyone stays PVG focused or if we start to see some Beijing flights return.


It went from 4 to 8 earlier this year; it is now at 12. It will go to 18 on September 1st, then 24 on October 29th.

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by alfa164
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US, China agree to Double the number of Weekly Flights
Replies: 86
Views: 20314

US, China agree to Double the number of Weekly Flights

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex ... 9a46&ei=37

Will UA and Delta jump on this... or not?
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Reported by Reuters:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ex ... 9a46&ei=37

Will UA and Delta jump on this... or not?

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by alfa164
Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India gets ready to reveal new livery and branding in August
Replies: 311
Views: 63500

Re: Air India gets ready to reveal new livery and branding in August

smi0006 wrote:
What is the motif in the red on the tail?


A slice of watermelon. You don't believe me?

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by alfa164
Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India gets ready to reveal new livery and branding in August
Replies: 311
Views: 63500

Re: Air India gets ready to reveal new livery and branding in August

It's terrible. I prefer the current one, whic I hate. The not-the-real-deal livery from previews posts looks much better in my opinion. The tail looks like 3 pocket squares superimposed, take your pick! I thought the red wedge on the tail looked like a slice of watermelon... People are still callin...

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by alfa164
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air India gets ready to reveal new livery and branding in August
Replies: 311
Views: 63500

Re: Air India gets ready to reveal new livery and branding in August

NYCAAer wrote:
smi0006 wrote:
SkyEye350 wrote:
Not a real livery. Wait for the FutureBrands reveal

Have future Brand done any previous work for other carriers? Be curious to see their style

AA’s current livery since 2013.


That's a very bad sign...

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by alfa164
Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934715

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

Cross-posting, but it appears the CR2 is officially done in the Delta Network in October. Skywest / OO has filed notification of aircraft changes for all the EAS markets out of SLC, DTW, MSP that are going to be changed to CR7/CR9 effective in October. It will be interesting to see how OO handles t...

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by alfa164
Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934715

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

I have noticed the same... Supposedly it was their Asian gateway but they don't actually have much flying to Asia. Maybe the domestic is going well enough though that they want to keep it, and/or they still have ambitions for Asia in the future ? The Seattle "gateway" role followed a prev...

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by alfa164
Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934715

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

And it's not an invalid strategy, even if people disagree with it. As I understand it, DL was faced resource constraints and identified opportunities to establish strong presence in the coastal hubs that it viewed as important for future growth / strategy etc.. It decided to shift resources away fr...

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by alfa164
Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines Starting Service to Nassau & Adding Las Vegas to Mexico
Replies: 52
Views: 8555

Re: Alaska Airlines Starting Service to Nassau & Adding Las Vegas to Mexico

As a land based vacation destination, Nassau is horribly overrated imo. This. .. Years ago - many years ago - Nassau was a charming, classy outpost of the British Empire, replete with high-end shops, classic architecture, great food, and bobby-like police uniforms. Then came 1) the cruise ships - a...

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by alfa164
Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jetblue unveils new livery!
Replies: 155
Views: 22785

Re: Jetblue unveils new livery!

We’ve seen over and over how poorly darker liveries age with time. This seems to be a move in the wrong direction, IMO. It also doesn’t feel as unique as some are claiming - very much a WN vibe. I cannot totally agree; I think Vietnam Airlines got it right. The biggest problem here isn't that it is...

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by alfa164
Thu May 25, 2023 2:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023
Replies: 4249
Views: 934715

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

Wow 3x daily JFK-FCO, that’s impressive! Wonder how much of that is traffic going to Rome vs connecting onwards with ITA? Will be interesting to see if DL downsizes at FCO at all if/when ITA joins Star Alliance. I honestly think they’ll be able to keep all if not almost all of their capacity there ...

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by alfa164
Wed May 24, 2023 3:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update: DOT denies Delta’s request to move Haneda route authorities
Replies: 1082
Views: 184690

Re: Delta asks DOT to move Haneda route authorities

I think you missed the point. UA was focusing about connections beyond Japan to Asia. But the point of that argument is that Delta voluntarily pulled down their Japan flying to focus on ICN and the KE partnership. I'd say that argument has merit. Did United also mention that they have a codeshare a...

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by alfa164
Mon May 22, 2023 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Mexico City's Abandoned Airport Project
Replies: 66
Views: 12963

Re: Mexico City's Abandoned Airport Project

There are many international airports located near factories and storage facilities. While safety is a big concern, I think most people would drive their cars on a highway bypassing these dangerous areas because it is the fastest way to travel between parts of the city and the airport. And increase...

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by alfa164
Tue May 09, 2023 4:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Update: DOT denies Delta’s request to move Haneda route authorities
Replies: 1082
Views: 184690

Re: Delta asks DOT to move Haneda route authorities

Personally, I hope DOT does not side with DL only because I think these slots need to be reallocated permanently to markets that can support them in a post-COVID world. We all know PDX isn't supportable and the business case is gone and HNL shows no strong signs of coming back demand wise. Let them...

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