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by Freshside3
Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Carriers to VIE - why not?
Replies: 18
Views: 3031

Re: US Carriers to VIE - why not?

LAXintl wrote:
Delta has tried Vienna multiple times even a nonstop to Atlanta without much success.

Further back folks like TWA served VIE as well.


RJ once had a VIE stop on one of their USA trips to AMM, as well.

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by Freshside3
Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Royal Air Maroc begins ATH
Replies: 7
Views: 1213

Re: Royal Air Maroc begins ATH

And what kind of general agreements(ticketing/baggage)agreements does AT have with other carriers? I remember people having to short-check bags, due to the lack of such agreements.

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by Freshside3
Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATL-WAW route
Replies: 44
Views: 6253

Re: ATL-WAW route

No real local market for ATL-WAW, whatsoever. Doomed to fail, just like when DL did MSP-FCO. There needs to be some local traffic to make a gateway city work.

DTW-WAW on DL would be the best bet. And I could see LO possibly do some kind of Florida trip...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Primera with TATL from FRA and TXL
Replies: 54
Views: 7338

Re: Primera with TATL from Berlin Tegel

Primera indeed has a strange "game plan", to say the least. Their headquarters is in Latvia, and most planes in Denmark, if I recall correctly....but they have these transatlantic flights out of BRU, one of the London airports, and now Tegel, besides their "vacation" flights out ...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS
Replies: 125
Views: 14684

Re: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS

What destinations would actually require backtracking? I am not saying they are going to fly to Paris or Milan via Athens but destinations such as Istanbul, Izmir, Greek islands, Alexandria, Cairo, Beirut, Tehran, Tbilisi, Yerevan, Riyadh... could all be conveniently served via Athens in cooperatio...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS
Replies: 125
Views: 14684

Re: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS

What is overlooked in the Greece market, are two things.....(1) Greece no longer has their own carrier that does transatlantic service, and (2) there used to be charters during peak Summer seasons, in the past, but not now. "Tourist" travel doesn't always equate to "cheap tickets"...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aegean announces ATH to IBZ, SJJ and VLC
Replies: 12
Views: 1725

Re: Aegean announces ATH to IBZ, SJJ and VLC

It seems that both A3 and ATH will keep their momentum in 2019, with additional new S19 routes already announced like ORD with AA and MAD with UX. I'm willing to bet that ATH will win the best airport in its category, for the marketing awards at the World Routes conference(mid-September in Guangzho...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS
Replies: 125
Views: 14684

Re: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS

Yes, peculiar they haven't added ATH or VCE from another gateway. I was actually holding my breath for ORD-ATH and AA beat them to it out of nowhere. UA will now have the smallest presence out of the three US majors in ATH (despite the Star Alliance link) with its one daily 767 to EWR. I can see IA...

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by Freshside3
Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS
Replies: 125
Views: 14684

Re: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS

kiowa wrote:
Great adds United! Now for ORD——-

IAD gets TLV, EWR gets PRG, AA gets ATH...…… BUD would probably the next logical choice. But now knowing how UA has been operating lately, ORD would probably not get a new international route for at least two years.

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by Freshside3
Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS
Replies: 125
Views: 14684

Re: United Announces EWR-PRG, EWR-NAP, SFO-AMS

fightforlove wrote:
Any possibility of United adding an ORD-PRG service? CSA used to come to ORD, since then nothing.

EWR-PRG will be a good flight, no doubt, but it would have been better out of ORD. Personally, I think they picked the wrong hub.

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH
Replies: 301
Views: 29943

Re: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH

Only last week, I got lambasted for suggesting that US Airlines are not interested in MAN. To further cement this notion, AA then scrap MAN-ORD. It’s clear that TATL traffic from MAN cannot really support year-round service with the exception of NYC and Florida. All other routes are highly seasonal...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30556

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

SEA-GRR I could see. I could, too.....a surprising amount of people go between these cities. Oddly enough, they are tow of the floral capitals of the USA.....major flower growers in Skagit Valley(SEA) and in Holland(GRR). Actually BLI and PAE are much closer to the Skagit Valley than SEA is. Howeve...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30556

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

I think JAX is out of the question; they could not even sustain a single daily LAX nonstop on Delta. Norfolk or Richmond are holes in their network. Given the military traffic between ORF and SEA, I think that's the next city for Alaska. And, depending on the performance of that route, SAN-ORF to f...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30556

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

klm617 wrote:
SEA-GRR I could see.

I could, too.....a surprising amount of people go between these cities. Oddly enough, they are tow of the floral capitals of the USA.....major flower growers in Skagit Valley(SEA) and in Holland(GRR).

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United's Kirby: Denver Getting Another United Euro Destination Soon
Replies: 131
Views: 16377

Re: United's Kirby: Denver Getting Another United Euro Destination Soon

I I wasn't suggesting "tit-for-tat", as far as ORD-ATH goes. That would be a disaster, to saturate the market, and ending up under-price it. Perhaps I had phrased it wrong. What I meant by "countering" it, is to add a flight that would be an incentive to switch loyalties. Which ...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of trans Atlantic to Eastern Europe?
Replies: 12
Views: 1727

Re: Future of trans Atlantic to Eastern Europe?

Well, AA added PRG and BUD nonstop from PHL this year (they briefly operated JFK-BUD when Malev was around, but that was pre-BK). The PRG and BUD routes for AA have apparently done well and you can see from the additional adds next summer, the strategy works. Year round these routes are tough. Ther...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of trans Atlantic to Eastern Europe?
Replies: 12
Views: 1727

Re: Future of trans Atlantic to Eastern Europe?

I heard someplace that PS plans to fly KBP-ORD, in the near future.

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United's Kirby: Denver Getting Another United Euro Destination Soon
Replies: 131
Views: 16377

Re: United's Kirby: Denver Getting Another United Euro Destination Soon

I will respectfully disagree with this premise. Directly from the mouth of the VP of Network at UA, the airline will no longer sit back and cede market share to competitors. The old UA (under the one who shall not be named...Smi...!) operated under the notion of maintaining the status quo to appeas...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United's Kirby: Denver Getting Another United Euro Destination Soon
Replies: 131
Views: 16377

Re: United's Kirby: Denver Getting Another United Euro Destination Soon

ikolkyo wrote:
I'd say CDG is up next, only service on it currently is DY. I'm surprised AF isn't there already.

I am, too. Many of the people in the French film industry, own vacation homes in Colorado. And for that type of clientele, DY is not the airline for them, due the lack of a true premium cabin.

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH
Replies: 301
Views: 29943

Re: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH

Only last week, I got lambasted for suggesting that US Airlines are not interested in MAN. To further cement this notion, AA then scrap MAN-ORD. It’s clear that TATL traffic from MAN cannot really support year-round service with the exception of NYC and Florida. All other routes are highly seasonal...

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by Freshside3
Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United's Kirby: Denver Getting Another United Euro Destination Soon
Replies: 131
Views: 16377

Re: United's Kirby: Denver Getting Another United Euro Destination Soon

Nice to DEN getting a new Euro destination! Let’s hope those rumors about those 2 big adds out of EWR by the end of this month bare fruit. Just hope IAH and ORD get some love too. ORD will have a difficult time, though. AA's service to ATH came surprisingly quick. Despite the fact that frequent fly...

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by Freshside3
Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TPA Announcing New INTL Route - 8/22/2018
Replies: 142
Views: 13808

Re: TPA Announcing New INTL Route - 8/22/2018

IB/MAD??

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by Freshside3
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH
Replies: 301
Views: 29943

Re: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH

I was hoping UA would be first to announce ORD-ATH, maybe UA will announce IAD-ATH. . I had hoped UA would have picked up ORD-ATH first, too. It would make no sense to go head-to-head against AA on ORD-ATH, at all. If they wanted to "counter" it, would be logical to get IAD-ATH, and then ...

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by Freshside3
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH
Replies: 301
Views: 29943

Re: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH

Btw with AA launching Dubrovnik, wouldn't it make sense to launch in the future other high-end holiday spots like Ibiza or Santorini/Mykonos? IMO DBV opens a door of opportunity to new ideas in terms of seasonal routes. Do any Americans (Not the airline, the people) even go to Ibiza? I've always th...

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by Freshside3
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United's Kirby: Denver Getting Another United Euro Destination Soon
Replies: 131
Views: 16377

Re: United's Kirby: Denver Getting Another Euro Destination Soon

Wouldn't surprise me if it was EI/DUB...….UA had been putting out a number of press releases, of sorts, saying that "we" have new service. Most of the time it is about Express, which is understandable(to an extent)......but they also had one about the NZ service from AKL to ORD. A number o...

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by Freshside3
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation News - 2018
Replies: 1033
Views: 101682

Re: Chicago Aviation News - 2018

AA just announced ORD-ATH on the Dreamliner for next summer. ...and the discontinuation of ORD-PVG. https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/br ... expansion/ viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1401983 Oh boy, AA ORD long-haul discussed ad nausem in the other thread. I really am lost as to what they are doing: so...

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by Freshside3
Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SKG Proposed new routes
Replies: 58
Views: 4814

Re: SKG Proposed new routes

The real benefit of ORD-ATH is that there are many markets that don't have service to NYC/PHL/Europe.....mostly middle and smaller markets.....but these markets do have service to ORD. Many of these people also have to go beyond ATH to other places in Greece. In some of the more extreme combinations...

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by Freshside3
Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SKG Proposed new routes
Replies: 58
Views: 4814

Re: SKG Proposed new routes

because they are only flying to Athens when it's 'easy' and when everyone can fill a plane. Developing a year-round market takes more effort. Again, refer to Reply#34. ⋅ COULD they make it work during the low season? Possibly. ⋅ Why SHOULD they bother , if they can make more mon...

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by Freshside3
Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH
Replies: 301
Views: 29943

Re: AA announces PHL-TXL/DBV/BLQ/EDI, PHX-LHR, DFW-DUB/MUC, CLT-MUC, ORD-ATH

It's about time for ORD-ATH! It is surprising that AA is making it daily, AND using the 787. I would have expected older, trashier planes, and only 3x/week.

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by Freshside3
Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future Toronto Pearson YYZ Routes
Replies: 92
Views: 10126

Re: Future Toronto Pearson YYZ Routes

YYZ-TER(Rouge)
YYZ-RNO(WS)

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by Freshside3
Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Help me understand codesharing...
Replies: 31
Views: 4564

Re: Help me understand codesharing...

(If you'll indulge me, I literally have nothing to add to this thread, but this is the best thread that I have read on airliners.net in many years. This is what airliners was and has always meant to be. I don't post, hardly ever, but I am here, 24/7, and have been from the beginning. Over the last ...

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by Freshside3
Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SKG Proposed new routes
Replies: 58
Views: 4814

Re: SKG Proposed new routes

Not all people are on cheap tickets, either. There has been an increase in "premium vacation" travel....as in the guys that rent out villas in Santorini, and it goes with the territory, that they buy Business Class tickets. Which is different in the past. Also, more Americans golfing in G...

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by Freshside3
Sun Aug 19, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SKG Proposed new routes
Replies: 58
Views: 4814

Re: SKG Proposed new routes

Well he might be refering to their conservative approach to the Greek market. When's the last time we've we had three US airlines offering nonstops to three USA hubs from Greece? And that's on top of EK's TATL service as well. What's "conservative" about that? I mean, does this person act...

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by Freshside3
Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SKG Proposed new routes
Replies: 58
Views: 4814

Re: SKG Proposed new routes

New York may have the most Greeks, by a long shot. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it's the only place that has local ethnic demand....Boston and Chicago could warrant getting flights for the summer. Plus, they are having an all-time record high amount of tourists. http://www.keeptalkinggreec...

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by Freshside3
Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SFO to Europe
Replies: 26
Views: 6441

Re: SFO to Europe

I flew SFO-ORY on the 707.

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by Freshside3
Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SKG Proposed new routes
Replies: 58
Views: 4814

Re: SKG Proposed new routes

Greece does not have a transatlantic carrier, as mentioned before. But there is also the lack of charter services from the US to Greece, who are on a budget. Charters used to be a big thing in the 70s/80s/90s. Especially from New York. There was also nonstop scheduled service on both TWA and Olympic...

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by Freshside3
Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SKG Proposed new routes
Replies: 58
Views: 4814

Re: SKG Proposed new routes

http://atwonline.com/airports-routes/ge ... er-airport
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Fraport will be getting an infusion of cash soon, due to the sale of part of their stake at HAJ.
http://atwonline.com/airports-routes/ge ... er-airport

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by Freshside3
Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SKG Proposed new routes
Replies: 58
Views: 4814

Re: SKG Proposed new routes

SKG in Northern Greece is a rapidly growing airport that serves the second largest city of Greece Salonica. As a result, demand for new routes is getting bigger. I believe SKG-LHR daily and SKG-JFK seasonally once or twice a week are realistic! What is your opinion on these routes? Do you have any ...

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by Freshside3
Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SKG Proposed new routes
Replies: 58
Views: 4814

Re: SKG Proposed new routes

What I am trying to say: it’s still quite provincial but has some seasonal potential. Sure FRAPORT has a focus on strengthening the FRA feeders before pursuing direct long haul. There is the question about the runway......was it lengthened enough to handle long-range planes? But ATH has found that ...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 17, 2018 4:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What are the chances of Tehran-Toronto?
Replies: 21
Views: 2361

Re: What are the chances of Tehran-Toronto?

Would service from YUL work?

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by Freshside3
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321XLR: Seattle-Asia?
Replies: 53
Views: 8870

Re: A321XLR: Seattle-Asia?

How about Eastern Russia, too? Or GUM/SPN/etc. feeding the hub

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United updating brand with new colors
Replies: 128
Views: 24560

Re: United updating brand with new colors

There is no way United based purple off of Delta. Things like this are developed over years, not on whims. But then again, UA has been known to not be the industry leader, and do copy-cat moves. So not a surprise, here, if they did. However, they are in search of a unified identity, and purple was ...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: LH to start FRA-BDL?
Replies: 62
Views: 9135

Re: Rumor: LH to start FRA-BDL?

The only way you'll see a "LH" flight to BDL is if it's this: https://www.privatair.com/aircraft/boeing-737-700-lufthansa-20c-66y Believe it or not that was how MUC-BOS got started :) MUC-BOS? I thought CPH-BOS. When was MUC-BOS on a 737? Yes, LH had some "Private Jet" 737s from...

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by Freshside3
Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TATL Announcements for 2019
Replies: 206
Views: 28124

Re: TATL Announcements for 2019

TP LIS-OAK Why would the Star Alliance carrier not fly to SFO in that region? 1. Difficulty in getting slots at SFO......it is getting really crowed, and less choices. 2. Larger Portuguese population on the East Bay, therefore, stronger O&D market. 3. No Star representation here, of any kind......

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by Freshside3
Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TATL Announcements for 2019
Replies: 206
Views: 28124

Re: TATL Announcements for 2019

BA LHR-STL, YEG
LY ORD-TLV
AA ORD-ATH
TP LIS-OAK
FI KEF-IAH

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by Freshside3
Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA announces IAD-TLV
Replies: 118
Views: 15352

Re: UA announces IAD-TLV

What the? IAD over ORD? Seriously? LY would be better for IAD-TLV. I still can’t believe ORD has no flight to TLV. It doesn't make sense to me, either. For some unknown reason, UA does not want to add anything to Mediterranean destinations from ORD, despite the fact that there are a lot of Chicagoa...

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by Freshside3
Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation News - 2018
Replies: 1033
Views: 101682

Re: Chicago Aviation News - 2018

Seems to me it will be more likely that LY flies ORD-TLV than UA at this point. I believe LY was waiting for more 787s? As I have been an advocate for ORD-TLV for years and still will be on this board, the Consul General of Israel posted "We are hopeful Chicago will be the next non-stop flight...

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by Freshside3
Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OA at ORD?
Replies: 14
Views: 2428

OA at ORD?

There are a number of people I know that are discussing OA's presence at ORD.

Just want to know what the actual years they had presence, and which routings they had

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by Freshside3
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ukraine International Nearing 787s & New Long Haul Routes
Replies: 35
Views: 4410

Re: Ukraine International Nearing 787s & New Long Haul Routes

As some of you mentioned, the Ukrainian diaspora, and the use of KBP as a reasonably priced transit point to TLV are strong points of this flights. It could supply a supplementary connection option, at peak times, for those going to WAW. Also, besides the lack of nonstop ORD-TLV, there are also lack...

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