Ethiopian Airlines consolidates its operations in Europe much of its network go to see non-stop flights Brussels, Vienna, Manchester, Marseilla and Milan become all non-stop without any stopover https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/289817/ethiopian-airlines-europe-service-changes-from-...Jump to post
Why don’t they fly nonstop to ADD? Block time is 16:30 for nonstop hence can’t be operated using any of the aircraft in ETs fleet when departing out of ADD. No one has mentioned this as yet but I would like to know what ET is going to do with this 1 freed up B788 not going to IAH anymore during the...Jump to post
Ethiopian is so adamant on serving IAH. Clearly, their last 2 attempts have failed, and this 20 hour wait on the ground doesn't seem much better either. I wouldn't be surprised to see it cancelled in a few weeks The last two attempts (at the planning stage) failed because of the ill timed schedules...Jump to post
Great to see attempt number 3! Is there possible connection opportunity past Houston? Yes there are connection opportunities, but not with UA which is the least cooperative Star alliance member. It will never give any special rate to Ethiopian, even though in this case they are not even a competito...Jump to post
Not any better than the attempted revival of People Express a few years ago. Give it up, and move on.Jump to post
The press release is so poorly written: The bit about AMS being twice daily but doesn't say from where. It also doesn't say where the CUR service is from and there are other typos (the 46th 767 or do you mean a 46-Polaris seat 767?) This is really embarrassing and looks like it was done by an inter...Jump to post
My guesses: IAD-WAW. It's the only major *A hub in Europe not served yet from IAD. IAD-PVG (but is China opening slots?) IAD-ICN (does ICN have capacity?) PRG flights from an UA hub (EWR?) could be interesting if they want to compete with AA's recently-announced expansion in Eastern Europe (more PR...Jump to post
Once again airlines piling on on already over saturated markets. It's time to start thinking outside the box and move into some of the underserved and unserved markets that lack diversity. Air Italy is the only airline to have service from MXP-LAX/SFO and it’s the only Italian city to SFO. DY flies...Jump to post
klm617 wrote:Once again airlines piling on on already over saturated markets. It's time to start thinking outside the box and move into some of the underserved and unserved markets that lack diversity.
Why? They can connect in Amsterdam, or any of the major domestic hubs, all of which have service to PDX. AMS is seasonal, and it was perfect timing that it is back now. As for the major domestic hubs, AA does not have a morning ORD trip until June. UA's EWR trip currently changes time slots, depend...Jump to post
a) I've had to connect in SEA twice this year to get to London, since there is no non-stop out of PDX during the winter. I was lucky in that I arrived mid day and with GE and no checked luggage, there was limited lines. But, the train and all that... YVR is certainly a better transit point for any ...Jump to post
Africa is long, thin routes from the US, and the airports that are likely needing to be served already are. UA's Star partners on the African continent are Egyptair and South African Airways. SA has the daily nonstop on JFK-JNB and Egyptair flies from JFK to CAI and will soon start IAD-CAI as well....Jump to post
Still, the #1 International Route out of SEA is YVR. Way better International Service than SEA - for now. 100% agree. The last two times I've flown to Europe, I made the drive from Portland to YVR because they have way better options and the fares were significantly lower. Flying to Europe out of P...Jump to post
Will one of the major American carriers return to IST in the future? United The airline of "missed opportunities"---don't think it would happen. AA beat them to ORD-ATH. LY beat them to ORD-TLV. They should have resumed the missing SEA-NRT service, but JL beat them there, too. All of whic...Jump to post
With the volume of growth DEN is experiencing, I have to imagine TK will come eventually, especially since DEN may become UA’s second largest hub. However, TK at DEN is likely a few years off. TK’s biggest US hole right now is DFW and that need to be addressed first. I would think SEA first, over t...Jump to post
What's the volume of Middle East and Indian O&D to/from Denver? O&D from nearby cities served by DEN that aren't also served by LAX? Liberal, Kansas; and Kearney, Nebraska?! :) More NYC is an obvious move; IMHO, DEN is not. There's lots of Eritreans and Ethiopians in Denver. And you can't t...Jump to post
SEA now has increased the use of "remote" operations, due to increased traffic, combined with a bunch of gates under construction, and out of commission.Jump to post
MSP can support both of them. ... There is also big German and British communities Really? I'd be interested to hear the size of the German-born and UK-born populations of the Cities... You can't put too much weight on German or British ancestry , because that doesn't generate anywhere near the amo...Jump to post
Given the tech connections between the Chicago area and India the suggestion AA couldn't make this work appears to not bode well for the long-term viability of their ORD hub... AA has shown no interest or intent to connect pax through ORD internationally on their own metal. Only JV carriers. ORD ha...Jump to post
Austin would also be a good choice for Indian flights. Its a decent tech hub and faces no competition from gulf carriers. This makes no sense, no connectivity. Never happens. If AUS gets any international flight, it would be MAN. Tech capital of the UK, and some connection options with partner BA. ...Jump to post
Agree, although IAD (and possibly ORD) would be added before the West Coast. I'm still surprised AA is launching ORD-ATH before UA. United has the smallest presence of all US carriers in ATH, which should not be the case considering the A3 connectivity. I guess it's easier for them to route all of ...Jump to post
Orthodox Easter is celebrated AFTER Passover always. Could be early, could be late...depends on year Whatever service is added, we are talking JFK ORD BOS YYZ at most In 2017, it was one of the unusual times where both Easters were on the same day. 2018- 4/1 and 4/8(one week apart) 2019- 4/21 and 4...Jump to post
AA will also have a daily ORD-ATH from 3 May 2019 to 28 September 2019 operated with the 788. That's six daily flights from the US to ATH next summer (JFKx2, EWRx2, PHLx1, ORDx1) plus a bunch of connections via airports such as LHR, CDG, AMS, FRA, IST and SVO. We can also add connections via Canada...Jump to post
[quote="bennett123”]Apparently Athens Spirit Airlines was founded in 2017, but I cannot find anything before 2019. [/quote] Neither have I. In fact, just learned about them this week. But you need to consider that the management team mostly came from SkyGreece and Hellenic Imperial. People got ...Jump to post
One more attempt of a start-up carrier from Greece doing transatlantic. And guess what? From same guys that brought you SkyGreece and Hellenic Imperial.....
https://aeronauticsonline.com/athens-sp ... in-greece/
I have to admit that I didn't know Ethiopian was in Star Alliance. Seriously, that's embarrassing - but I will admit it. As I had mentioned on other threads, UA has very little to do with alliance partner ET, as well as TG/A3. And it's easy to assume that these carriers are NOT part of the Star All...Jump to post
There is construction going on at Terminal 1 and UA needs to make the most of their own gate space. As a result, the LH flights are split. If I recall correctly, FRA leaves from 1, and MUC leaves from 5. (Previously both left from 1). Maybe once the construction is done, but certainly not now. LX a...Jump to post
Another dynamic in the ET/East Africa situation. Diplomatic relations between Ethiopia and Eritrea have become normalized, and flights between the two countries have been reinstated. As a result. more people going to Eritrea, since it is easier to get to.Jump to post
UA and ET have an OK relationship. Obviously not at the same level as their JV partners, but ET has a relatively extensive codeshare on UA flights out of IAD and I believe recently out of ORD as well. UA/ET have even interlined prior to ET joining Star. It's more complicated than that. Just because...Jump to post
This is what puzzles me. If ET indeed had the rights it would have been all over it including adding frequency to LFW from Nigeria (where ASKY is limited) or go beyond to destinations like NYC, yet it never did. The open skies allows for such service if the intermediate stop's country allows it, ye...Jump to post
In the future, could I consider San Francisco (SFO) as a destination? I think it would be better to fly to SFO than it has to LAX, it seems better strategy to expand to strong Star Alliance Hubs No you shouldn’t as SFO lacks the demand volume to Africa which LAX had some what. So if LAX couldn’t su...Jump to post
ORD PRG for a start in summer 2020. DFW-BCN, long rurmored as well. DFW-BCN on AA metal makes perfect sense. I'd personally be surprised at ORD-PRG but hey if ATH and VCE worked then why not! Just crazy to me how weak AA still is on ORD-Europe. UA is also(somewhat) weak on Europe out of ORD. Plus, ...Jump to post
But it is still puzzling that A3, does not code-share on UA's EWR-ATH flight. You would think that if they don't want to do long-haul, at least code-share on your partner's flight. They do, on the AC trips. But I suspect there is some "bad blood" between A3 and UA preventing this. In fact,...Jump to post
Could there have been charter services?(Especially with it being military place).
They have done some odd charters...….there was a GUM to Samoa about four years ago on UA. (Not sure if it was APW or PPG).
I can see it with a stop in ORK, for multiple reasons...…the 321 needs a stop, for obvious reasons......Irish people generally like to do holidays in the Mediterranean.......more convenient(for some) than using SNN/DUB..........on the US side, yes, there is Norwegian, but it is doubly bad.......PVD ...Jump to post
Nothing "historical" or "groundbreaking" about this bunch of flights...…..not bad moves, but, for the most part, nothing to get excited about.
Now I can go back to taking my nap......
My own 0.02 to this....and I would agree with some of the things previously said.....
One thing not mentioned is SFO-LIS......TAP hub......large Portuguese population in California.......and TP recently added ORD/IAD..........sounds like a perfect fit!
LAXintl wrote:JNB much more likely from IAH imo...
Primera indeed has a strange "game plan", to say the least. Their headquarters is in Latvia, and most planes in Denmark, if I recall correctly....but they have these transatlantic flights out of BRU, one of the London airports, and now Tegel, besides their "vacation" flights out ...Jump to post
What destinations would actually require backtracking? I am not saying they are going to fly to Paris or Milan via Athens but destinations such as Istanbul, Izmir, Greek islands, Alexandria, Cairo, Beirut, Tehran, Tbilisi, Yerevan, Riyadh... could all be conveniently served via Athens in cooperatio...Jump to post
What is overlooked in the Greece market, are two things.....(1) Greece no longer has their own carrier that does transatlantic service, and (2) there used to be charters during peak Summer seasons, in the past, but not now. "Tourist" travel doesn't always equate to "cheap tickets"...Jump to post
It seems that both A3 and ATH will keep their momentum in 2019, with additional new S19 routes already announced like ORD with AA and MAD with UX. I'm willing to bet that ATH will win the best airport in its category, for the marketing awards at the World Routes conference(mid-September in Guangzho...Jump to post