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by VTORD
Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

I travelled back to India in August and returned in September. It was on a commercial flight and not on any Vande Bharat affair. There was no ban at that point of time and there wasn't any earlier either. I don't know what they are on about. "Vande Bharat" was the joke that went on too lo...

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by VTORD
Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

Does anyone know why AI127 (DEL-ORD) has diverted twice in the past week, once to Stockholm and the other time to Oslo just yesterday? Both for medical emergency - apparently the Stockholm was a stroke. I read it on a news site which was behind a paywall but that's what the headline said. https://w...

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by VTORD
Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

Why keep a tarnished brand? All the negative comments online aren't going to be wiped out. Old legacy brands, despite the negative sentiments online, have a great appeal and will find many takers from amongst the average public. There's a certain comfort level for some, with opting for a familiar a...

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by VTORD
Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

For what it's worth, my view is that the Government's disposition of Air India is a fantastic move as it took the albatross round its neck. I'd like to know what the view is from the Tata's perspective. Did they get it for pennies on the dollar in the sense that they got it dirt cheap? Or, was it f...

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by VTORD
Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

VTORD's theory is plausible but in this scenario what happens to the existing UK codeshare with BA? Can that still survive in a UA/LH/SQ/AI-UK parnership? Someone had commented in the SQ-UA thread that A.Net tends to put lot of undue importance on "airlines not getting along". I agree. If...

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by VTORD
Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

Personally I think UA will never treat AI/Uk well since UA is so dominant between US-India. It is either AA/BA or DL/KL/AF from my pov. AI as a GoI vessel was one thing, AI under private ownership might be much more pallatabe and a whole new ball game for UA. Personally pre-pandemic, I would have t...

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by VTORD
Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vistara obtains slots for DEL-LGW-EWR service
Replies: 5
Views: 2306

Re: Vistara obtains slots for DEL-LGW-EWR service

That doesn't look like a fifth freedom in that filing. Interesting to see if this is a straight EWR-DEL with a crew swop as this doesn't feel like it would be a profitable continuing flight... They should apply for one and should be able to get it easily. However with AI soon to be part of Tata, I ...

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by VTORD
Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas launches Delhi
Replies: 54
Views: 10783

Re: Qantas launches Delhi

The argument wasn't that they don't fly the same routes, but that "if AI int'l route choices were so bad, UA wouldn't be jumping at every other route of AI on the India-US market and literally start network mirroring them." The argument made, I would say naively, was that AI are the leade...

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by VTORD
Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas launches Delhi
Replies: 54
Views: 10783

Re: Qantas launches Delhi

AI finances never gave a breakup of which route makes money or not. Also, if AI int'l route choices were so bad, UA wouldn't be jumping at every other route of AI on the India-US market and literally start network mirroring them. Are they? I mean, they're starting SFO-BLR, so that's one. I have not...

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by VTORD
Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas launches Delhi
Replies: 54
Views: 10783

Re: Qantas launches Delhi

Congratulations to QF, DEL and SYD!

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by VTORD
Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

Even though simple hot meals in economy should not be a problem, but it is for most carriers including AI. It is very difficult to be consistent. Better to keep it simple. A snack + free beverage (juices/coffee/tea/water) and buy on board. The competition is tough, and with Akasa another ULCC comin...

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by VTORD
Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

What do you want then? That everyone paints one doomsday picture after another? We're getting enough of that. A business group that is over a hundred years old and is known for its probity and business sense is making an investment that it can very well afford in the flag carrier of its country. It...

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by VTORD
Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

It's the Tatas we are talking about, not some sundry one trick pony loser bania like Naresh Goyal or Vijay Mallya. Just one of the Tata companies, TCS alone, has a market capitalisation of more than 200 billion USD. That's a hundred times what they have paid for AI. The Tatas sure have done their h...

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by VTORD
Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

Seeing AA flying JFK-DEL on a 77W makes it seem likely. There are a lot of Indians here who like to travel to India even in the pandemic. LA does not have a lot of Indians when compared to NYC. LA's Indian population is significantly less than NYC, Bay area, Chicago and Dallas. Just because AA star...

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by VTORD
Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA signs codeshare agreement with Indian LCC Indigo Airlines
Replies: 60
Views: 7028

Re: AA signs codeshare agreement with Indian LCC Indigo Airlines

Folks, I was trying to see if the codeshare is working. I searched for jfk to Mumbai and it isn’t working. How long does it take to get the codeshare activated? I was able to find some flights to AMD and BDQ but the lowest fare I got was like $6,400 with a 21 hour layover! :shock: For BOM, it is ro...

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by VTORD
Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021
Replies: 178
Views: 18843

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2021

First come up with some random unfounded theories (govt not happy w/ Tata) , then add some more masala to your own theories (they working on renegotiating terms). Then deflect by talking of another unrelated airline in this sale process (spicejet), despite knowing well their owner was just a prop i...

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by VTORD
Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA signs codeshare agreement with Indian LCC Indigo Airlines
Replies: 60
Views: 7028

Re: AA signs codeshare agreement with Indian LCC Indigo Airlines

6E pruned many of their frequencies to tier 2/3 cities during COVID. They have the ability to add those extra late evening frequencies once traffic picks back up, and it should add a few more possibilities to your list. You're probably looking at their current curtailed schedule, which is by no mea...

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by VTORD
Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA signs codeshare agreement with Indian LCC Indigo Airlines
Replies: 60
Views: 7028

Re: AA signs codeshare agreement with Indian LCC Indigo Airlines

AI & Vistara are just "premium", but neither have the network, reach or frequency of what 6E has. 6E covers even smaller tier2/3 towns with multiple dailies, while between the metros they have 15-20 daily flights. The two FSC's will have on average ~5 daily between the big metros (exc...

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by VTORD
Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2021
Replies: 97
Views: 12609

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2021

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/india-nonstops-on-the-way-american-airlines-codeshares-with-indigo-for-india-connections/articleshow/86584787.cms This seems to be big news. Perhaps this can drive more traffic to AA on their JFK-DEL and SEA-BLR flights. Wonder if this wil...

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by VTORD
Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2021
Replies: 97
Views: 12609

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2021

Very difficult to compete with the comprehensive LH network out of India by adding 1-2/week flight out of DEL only. It can feed to UA or LH at FRA in a limited way There are a few possibilities here (subject to slots, schedule etc.,): 1. Feed LH to carry pax from India whether ex-DEL or XXX - DEL, ...

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by VTORD
Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2021
Replies: 97
Views: 12609

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2021

Not necessarily. Really depends on who is flying for what. For e.g. if I were traveling to U.S. (won't be traveling anywhere for next couple odd years or more till this virus goes away) I would gladly take the time to either sleep or see Serbia, day-life, nightlife whatever it is. I don't want to b...

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by VTORD
Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2021
Replies: 97
Views: 12609

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2021

Is there a way to find AI's time table? The one on the website is for March :roll: A friend is being given the major run around between the local AI office in IXR and AI helpline number - former says IXR-DEL for July 24th is cancelled (schedule change cited and he has an email); the latter says it's...

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by VTORD
Mon Jun 07, 2021 1:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 121
Views: 16123

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 021-05-07/

I wasn't aware ORD - DEL was being scaled back.
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SATexan wrote:
Can anybody tell me the latest on UA's SFO-BLR flight? When is the start date?


https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 021-05-07/

I wasn't aware ORD - DEL was being scaled back.

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by VTORD
Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Announces New Routes Including JFK-DEL
Replies: 173
Views: 29159

Re: AA Announces New Routes Including JFK-DEL

JFK-DEL really surprises me. Does AA (and I guess JetBlue) have the network to feed this flight? Right now I feel like there are two strategies for US-India - UA flies from the US at night to allow US connections but arrives too late for most India connections. AI leaves in the afternoon arriving I...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Tata to (re)acquire most of Air India
Replies: 175
Views: 24849

Re: Air India Bidding

Year, Allocation in Cr. 2012 - 1,200 2013 - 6,000 2014 - 6,000 2015 - 5,780 2016 - 2,500 2017 - 1,710 2018 -1,800 2019 -1,630 Those are not budget allocations. Those are infusions into AI because they couldn't meet their costs. Even the link you shared spells this out! I am not a finance guy but I ...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 121
Views: 16123

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

Anyone know how many Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners will have Vistara by 2021? Apart from London Heathrow and Frankfurt, what other destinations do you have planned? I think they are looking at North America. They recently requested for their remaining 787s on order to be delivered with crew rest areas. ...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Tata to (re)acquire most of Air India
Replies: 175
Views: 24849

Re: Air India Bidding

According to this Sep 2020 article as of March 2019 : Total Debt: INR 58,255 Cr = USD 8 Billion Total Debt assumed by GoI and moved to SVP to sweeten the deal: INR 29,464 Cr = USD 4 Billion https://www.newindianexpress.com/business/2020/sep/19/government-considering-reducing-air-indias-debt-and-dela...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Tata to (re)acquire most of Air India
Replies: 175
Views: 24849

Re: Air India Bidding

Can someone remind me what unit is Cr and what currency are we talking in as well. Not all of us in airliners.net understand any of the Indian languages. Crore (Cr) is in INR INR 1 Crore = 10,000,000 = Divide by 72(?) for USD = USD 138K give or take INR 1 Lakh = 1,00,000 Indians usually talk large ...

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by VTORD
Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Tata to (re)acquire most of Air India
Replies: 175
Views: 24849

Re: Air India Bidding

Basically it is pointless focusing on one businessperson, airline or political party. They all are the same. The issue is how business is done in india. We can try and reform india, but saying this one person is bad while the others are saints is just wrong. They all are the same. ALL. I still have...

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by VTORD
Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q2 2021
Replies: 121
Views: 16123

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q2 2021

sand26391 wrote:
Hearing rumours that UPS Cargo will operate Flights to BLR. Possibly by July or Aug 2021.
The Airport recently opened a 200,000 MT per annum express cargo terminal.

From SDF? or from somewhere in Europe most likely?

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by VTORD
Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Carriers Vistara and SpiceJet Bag Coveted London Heathrow LHR Slots for S21
Replies: 101
Views: 10981

Re: Indian Carriers Vistara and SpiceJet Bag Coveted London Heathrow LHR Slots for S21

The next relevant one now is BOM-LHR. Of course, if UK wins the bid for AI, it likely gets the slots AI holds abroad. The question would then be if UK wants the B788 fleet or the B77L/W fleet. Why would they not want the 77Ws? Their current 789s are not equipped for NA flights IIRC (no crew rest?) ...

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by VTORD
Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q1 2021
Replies: 153
Views: 18904

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q1 2021

Hi All, Has anyone recently travelled from SFO to India. Which airlines are available to fly from SFO to india for a nUS citizen? In between i had seen somewhere online that we cannot travel through some of the airlines like british airways and qatar airways and emirates, is it true that we have to...

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by VTORD
Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q1 2021
Replies: 153
Views: 18904

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q1 2021

Thats a good connection, what about people from USA. Can we take the connection from USA to canada and then to delhi once the quarantines rules are relaxed. Havent heard too many people taking AC from USA to india pre covid though. Maybe the fares were too high. I think non-GC/USC folks need a tran...

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by VTORD
Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2020
Replies: 134
Views: 19181

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2020

Snowman Logistics, SpiceJet ink MoU for vaccine distribution Snowman Logistics on Thursday said it signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Spicejet for jointly distributing COVID-19 vaccines across India and internationally. Snowman and SpiceJet have signed a MoU for jointly engaging in sto...

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by VTORD
Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2020
Replies: 134
Views: 19181

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2020

Its ORD-DEL-HYD-DEL-ORD and a/c almost always changes for DEL-HYD leg and everyone goes through immigration at DEL only I think he means the new direct HYD-ORD that AI announced recently 2xWeekly. Even for AI it wouldn't make sense to "announce a new route" which is just an existing tag. ...

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by VTORD
Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2020
Replies: 134
Views: 19181

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2020

I think its the first 6. The options (four) were going to be with crew rest and the original order for 6 were all for medium haul. Thanks! I am not sure that is such a smart plan though. If you evaluate that with this sentence from the quoted article in @trinidadeG's post: Vistara’s international p...

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by VTORD
Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2020
Replies: 134
Views: 19181

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q4 2020


Looks like Dreamliner #3 is painted. Is it the first 4 that are not going to have crew rest areas? or 2?

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by VTORD
Sun Oct 04, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 4716
Views: 751766

Re: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR

UA is betting on US origin pax from the region of their hubs going to DEL, BOM or BLR. So ORD-DEL & US city-ORD-DEL is their primary target. The ME3 will struggle to really compete with that segment. ME3 have really been most competitive on their US gateways-ME-South India. BUt J traffic skews ...

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by VTORD
Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2020
Replies: 201
Views: 22099

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2020

These are UDAN routes, propped up by subsidy. Without it, we don't know if such routes would ever materialise. Likewise, Port Blair seems like a hot tourist destination going by the number of flights operating to that island airport. Until one realises that airlines fly there because they're forced...

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by VTORD
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2020
Replies: 201
Views: 22099

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2020

I actually wouldnt be surprised if AI gives up NA all together, given the UA/AC/UK partnership they compete against. The fact that they haven't updated their 777s is telling. The assumption that Air India is going to give up North America is just ridiculous. They have been flying these routes for m...

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by VTORD
Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 4716
Views: 751766

Re: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR

I think you have misunderstood what I wrote so let be me a bit more specific. United has for years has hired immigrants for the FA position that have legally immigrated to the US before their employment began with United Airlines. United does not act as a sponsor for these FA's, some legally immigr...

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by VTORD
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 4716
Views: 751766

Re: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR

Since my question some how went sideways, let me rephrase... If United wants to inaugurate service to a foreign destination, are inflight interpreters required? Would they hire new bilingual FAs specific for that route while 5,500 other FAs are getting furloughed? United has bilingual FA's on all o...

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by VTORD
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/15/2020:AI Adds DELEWR,Cuts DELORD;DL Adds Winter LAXRNO;EK Suspends MCO;FI/KL/UA Suspend Long Haul Routes
Replies: 31
Views: 7113

Re: OAG Changes 9/15/2020:AI Adds DELEWR,Cuts DELORD;DL Adds Winter LAXRNO;EK Suspends MCO;FI/KL/UA Suspend Long Haul Ro

I have no idea, but I don't think cuts after MAR would be real. They would cut it now if it were going away. I think the carriers are filing lots of schedule changes versus once per week in the past and that increases the chance that the schedule update catches them in the middle of the process. Ty...

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by VTORD
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2020
Replies: 201
Views: 22099

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - Q3 2020

UA may have already driven AI out of ORD. As per the OAG thread, AI is discontinuing DEL-ORD from April 2021. I realize it is a few months away and AI may change schedules later but I will not be surprised if AI is out of ORD. I think it is an error. In the same post check DEL-JFK and BOM-EWR. They...

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by VTORD
Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/15/2020:AI Adds DELEWR,Cuts DELORD;DL Adds Winter LAXRNO;EK Suspends MCO;FI/KL/UA Suspend Long Haul Routes
Replies: 31
Views: 7113

Re: OAG Changes 9/15/2020:AI Adds DELEWR,Cuts DELORD;DL Adds Winter LAXRNO;EK Suspends MCO;FI/KL/UA Suspend Long Haul Ro

AI BOM-EWR NOV 1.0>0.4[1.0] DEC 1.0>0.4[1.0] JAN 1.0>0.5[1.0] FEB 1.0>0.4[1.1] MAR 1.0>0.4[0.9] APR 1.0>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0[1.0] JUN 1.0>0[1.0] **AI DEL-EWR NOV 0>0.4[0] DEC 0>0.5[0] JAN 0>0.4[0] FEB 0>0.4[0] MAR 0>0.4[0] AI DEL-IAD APR 0.4>0[0.4] MAY 0.4>0[0.4] JUN 0.4>0[0.4] AI DEL-JFK NOV 1.0>0.4[1...

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by VTORD
Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 4716
Views: 751766

Re: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR

I am sorry but this is such a selfish and elitist comment. Language crew (at least one), are needed on Indian flights. There are many people who are not “fluent” in English and/or cannot understand detailed discussions Light flight disruptions / ask detailed questions in English. What do you lose b...

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by VTORD
Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 4716
Views: 751766

Re: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR

How will they staff the SFO-BLR flights with speakers? Despite furloughing 5,500 FAs, will they be hiring a handful of new Kannada/Hindi FAs for this route? DH to SFO from other language bases? Not sure what you are implying here but there is no need to hire "speakers". I have taken AF, L...

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by VTORD
Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 4716
Views: 751766

Re: Updated: UA plans EWR-JNB/OGG, IAD-ACC/LOS, ORD-DEL/KOA, SFO-BLR

I am guessing Euro JV partners are carrying the lion's share of BLR-SFO traffic, even though EK may be the single largest percentage wise. There is a reason why LH operates a 8F/80J/32PE to BLR. How would LH fill its premium capacity after UA non-stop launch. SFO-DEL was successful because DEL is c...

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