https://www.watoday.com.au/national/per ... 51u29.html
This QF vs PER situation seems to be deteriorating. Dodgy escalators? Slow airbridges? Looks like the Alan Joyce/Nev Power catchup has achieved absolutely nothing.
Have cathay dropped PER and ADL frequencies recently?
I thought they were 10x to PER and 6x to ADL but now just coming up at as 7 and 4 respectively.
https://thewest.com.au/news/aviation/em ... 881188121z
EK returning second daily to PER seasonally over chrissie.
ACT Government is trying to lure a direct flight between CBR and China. https://www.canberratimes.com.au/canberra-news/andrew-barr-in-china-looking-to-woo-airlines-to-canberra-20190325-p517fv.html My thought is other than HKG, there's no port in China where this route will be profitable without sub...
Jump to postI agree with qf789 that there's too much focus on PER with the VA MAX, and too much on new destinations/routes as well. The MAX would of course reduce cost (and therefore increase yield) on longer sectors such as to DPS, but also to DRW and CNS. Not to take away from the obvious possibility of supp...
Jump to post51% originating PER-LHR from Perth - was this more than anyone else guessed ?!
Jump to postHBA International flights upgrade as part of City Deal: Article behind paywall, sorry; but I will post a free article when the ABC get around to writing one: https://www.themercury.com.au/news/hobarts-longawaited-city-deal-to-be-spread-across-tourism-science-traffic-solutions-and-housing/news-story...
Jump to postAnyone know how the sri lankan airlines flight to MEL is going? Loads seem fine, but I wasn't sure re yields. Just thinking - the UL route to CMB and the Air India routes to MEL/SYD combined = 33 000 passengers In Nov. Its enough to fill two A330's a day back and forth. I think they have probably ta...
Jump to postI was just talking about the new perth airport train station and the proposed link from the station to the terminal - looks like a overpass rather than a seamless underground pedestrian link (which is what i'm generally used to elsewhere, eg SYD). Friends suggested that the airport may eventually go...
Jump to postWhats the deal with the PER-HBA frequency? Announced as 3 weekly, was expanded over summer, but I see its still 4 weekly, seems back to 5 weekly first week of feb, 4 weekly for the second week and 3 weekly thereafter. Are VA just playing it by ear and adding frequencies a few weeks in advance if the...
Jump to postsigh.... so many rumours. I guess I did kind of invite this. I don't even know if there is an avenue for the WA govt to mediate, unless both parties wanted that (and it certainly doesn't sound like that). The federal government which has responsibility for aviation is going through a particularly us...
Jump to postThere are many aspects in this feud, the gate space is just one of them. I was also trying to point out that its not all PAPL, QF is as much to blame for this as PAPL. I do get the feeling that QF are trying to back out of the agreement made pre PER-LHR that included them moving over to T1 by the e...
Jump to postNow see the issue, there isn't the available gate space, Gates 21-24 are only suitable for narrowbodies, so operating a number of flights so close to each other is outside of what the terminal can handle. For this to work some scheduling changes need to be made, if both the SIN and JNB/AKL flights ...
Jump to postHi all, I had a question re BTRE international figs For airlines that do stops on their way to aus (I'm mainly thinking of EK, for example their flight to Brisbane via Singapore) - does it get counted in the Singapore or Dubai column in the "city pairs" section for brisbane? Or would it be...
Jump to postFor what it's worth I had drinks with people close to the Perth hub strategy about six months ago. Gist of it was that it's hard to see CDG or FRA being launched in the short to medium term, although they're happy with how LHR has worked. QF would like CDG and FRA from PER, but without the current ...
Jump to postNice to hear that they are installing e gates. Could you tell how many were being set up?
Jump to postIs the WTB subsidised by the airport owners? 12 weekly seems very frequent.
Jump to postRe PER, two questions. - As many of you will know, PER international doesn't really have walled off gates with designating separate seating /security (what you would see in the middle east or se asia). Is this the case in other australian international terminals? - On another WA forum, someone has s...
Jump to postSorry QANTAS your JNB flight needs to depart from T1 to make the train line viable.... but oh we won’t build you the terminal we promised you for your domestic flights to operate next to the train line.... Rail issue is a load of rubbish. While QF remains at T3/T4 passengers can use the Redcliffe S...
Jump to postMy guess it would be a similar arrangement to PAPL's deal with Virgin for the Virgin Pier?
I presume Virgin didn't pay up front. Does it add the fee onto its ticket costs over a prolonged number of years?
Seems Perth Airport and Qantas are talking again. https://thewest.com.au/business/aviation/paris-nonstop-flight-on-perth-airport-agenda-ng-b88981686z I think the fact that their renegotiating the T3/T4 domestic terminal lease is critical - and it certainly puts all the recent blustery headlines int...
Jump to postMixed on this one. I think the area could sustain a Jetstar flight once a week from Sydney and Melbourne BUT I sort of like that it’s hard to get to. Last thing I want is the region over run with tourists :-) I've heard that the drive down there from PER actually is an attraction in and of itself, ...
Jump to postDo you think we'd see QF cancel PER-LHR when they get aircraft that are capable enough to do SYD/MEL/BNE-LHR? Or is the LHR-PER local market large enough to merit its own nonstop at least not on a daily basis? Not at the moment seeing most of the passengers are ex-Perth Isn't it impossible to know ...
Jump to postSpeaking of airport/flight traffic numbers, I have a PER question (sorry, I know there's been a disproportionate focus on PER of late, but at least this post isn't about overly enthusiastic state government / local newspaper announcements of new services, which are getting a bit overdone and misinte...
Jump to postYou need to read a bit more around what you post. I actually posted the original link, you can see - I was responding to a comment someone made about the link that I posted. The deal noted in the content of the post I originally linked could very validly be attributable to part of WA's growth numbe...
Jump to postThe QF deal has only kicked in and only applies to BME. I thought it became available from November 2017, and was at many other airports too: ... From November, Qantas will offer the discounts ... will be available for personal travel for people who live in Broome, Kalgoorlie, Karratha, Paraburdoo,...
Jump to postInteresting that ADL seems to be performing stronger than PER for CZ. Good news for ADL. In all honesty this isn’t much of a surprise. South Australia receives 38% more Chinese visitors compared to Western Australia, and Chinese visitor growth is faster for SA. If you include CX then Perth still ha...
Jump to postBITRE our for March PER-LHR Inbound 1188 - 6 services average 198 passengers 83% LF Outbound 1039 - 8 services average 129 passengers, 55% LF It is unclear if this is all passengers or just those from/to PER https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoing/files/International_airline_activity_1803.pdf Yea...
Jump to postFlying BNE/AKL-anywhere in Hong Kong/China/Japan via Singapore is geographically stupid. It's almost the same distance to China as it is to Singapore. Guess what? People backtrack. Shocking, I know. For example, KE advertises ex-AKL fares to MNL via ICN. It's not the end of the world. In any event,...
Jump to postCZ carried 9359 passenger to Perth in Feb. Works out to about 230 / flight. Seems like a LF of around 75-82% depending on which a330s they used. Eh, load factors mean nothing if your yield is bad - Airline Economics 101. But in any event, CZ themselves have said that they're not happy with PER: Per...
Jump to postQantas has suspended all future growth international plans out of PER until there is a resolution on the PER-JNB flight https://www.airlineratings.com/news/qantas-halts-perth-international-route-expansion-plans/ Smart move by Alan Joyce. There is no reason for PER to be so intransigent on this, sur...
Jump to postCZ dropping from 5 to 4 for one month and from 4 to 3 for two months then back up to 5. Has nothing to do with a unemployment rate from last month. As CZ said itself, it's not happy with PER's performance (see my post above) - part of this performance is attributable to weak out-bound demand, given...
Jump to post- My point is that 1000 less is still less, given the same frequency (and I presume the same aircraft type I think their all using A332s?) But I don't doubt that Perth is underperforming (I mean that's what they've said!) - The stuff about connecting traffic - Most traffic from Australia to China go...
Jump to postMore PER CZ cuts. It was reduced to 4x weekly at end of March and further down to 3x weekly for a few months before goibg back to 5x weekly from August. This is not good that Australia's 4th biggest city can't maintain flights to China's most popular city from Australia. Even Adelaide is performing...
Jump to postben175 wrote:Any word on MU's PER-PVG trial that's due to commence later this year?
Haha yeah. And also Tehran, Shenzen, Vienna, Cape Town. Looks like they are relying heavily on India surprise surprise.
I wonder if Qatar will smell blood in the water here, If they can renegotiate the bilateral they can start BNE.
They really have cancelled quite a few routes over the years. Bigger ones include SFO, DFW, IAH, CAN, GRU, CPH, DOH (politics), VCE. Looks like EY are retreating to a Asia / Australia (well East Coast) to Europe Connector.
Jump to postlittle bit surprising re EY,
Perth had slightly more EY passengers than Brisbane for Jan and Dec, maybe yields were awful. 789s for both carriers I think. That's despite BNE not having a QR service as well.
Nice gift for QR as they have the a380 from May.
Just looking at the international figures for Dec.
Qatar's ADL service LFs seem that they are a bit low.
The A350-900 - 287 seats...daily flight for the month works out to 17794 seats. They had 12123 passengers - LF68%. Have I worked this out right? Seems a bit low for peak season?
SQ to cancel 3 flights on capital express route (14 August, 5 September and 24 October) ex WLG due to weaker demand http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/92644365/singapore-airlines-trimming-several-flights-from-capital-express-service Oh wow, 3 flights! that is so much. I'm surprised this made the news ...
Jump to postCanberra Airport lobbying SQ for a 5th weekly service to its capital express service http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/canberra-airport-lobbies-for-fifth-singapore-airlines-flight-20170115-gtrosk.html Based on the recalculated loads that have been floating around - it really doesn't sound li...
Jump to postAgree redroo. Just wish it was cheaper . 25-45 m seems an impossible bridge to gap for a temporary structure.
Jump to postThanks. Yes agree - that's why I am kind of hoping that the three parties can whittle the cost down (so it doesn't affect the airports ability to consolidate everything at T1) and then all 3 parties can try and cobble together a funding arrangement. The airport is the only group that can deliver the...
Jump to postI think part of the issue is the cost - 25 to 45 million seems like a lot for what is meant to be a temporary arrangement. The benefits are no let tangible. The airport is a business just like qf - it gets 30-40k passengers a day, so this seems like a very large outlay for what is a small added bene...
Jump to postEmirates EK424/425 rotation to Perth has been downgraded to a 777-300ER from an A380 for the month of November. Back to A380 from the 1st of December. I know EK424/425 loads have been abysmal (especially EK425) since the A380 change. Working at the airport, I am yet to see it leave with more than 2...
Jump to posthttps://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/ ... on-closer/ So it looks like that IF PER-LHR is to happen (obviously a very big if) QF will add an international area to their current domestic terminal at PER. I guess there's plenty of space since VA left. I don't think it would cost much for a customs ar...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/TruemanQLD" class="quote" target="_blank">TruemanQLD</a> (<a href="#106" class="quote">Reply 106</a>):<br/><i>This is great news. Does anyone kn...
Jump to posti see. i think i misread the reuters article. when it said "converting 787-8 order for jetstar to 787-9s" i presumed they meant the 787-9's would be staying with JQ.
Jump to postInteresting to see a few frames going onto <acronym title="Jetstar (Australia)">JQ</acronym>. All the A330s are gone - so this is presumably to deliver new routes? Or just increase frequency on exiting routes? One route I have been thinking about for a while is <acronym title="Perth (PER / YPPH), Au...
Jump to postBitre stats for december are out. No mention of Toowoomba in the '50 busiest regional airports section.' It would only neeed 4500 passengers or so to make the list (Broken Hill, which is 50th has 4400). Does this mean that the load factor on qantaslink's new flight is that low. There would have been...
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