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by B-HOP
Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329259

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

KL is also under pressure to cut costs throughout the entire company in order to stay afloat. The last three 74E's are not exactly the most fuel efficient ones either. Behind the four KLM/MP dedicated freighters, these three 744combi's are the most fuel efficient (kg fuel/ kg payload) at long haul ...

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by B-HOP
Tue Oct 06, 2020 5:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cathay Pacific DC10 order
Replies: 32
Views: 7945

Re: Cathay Pacific DC10 order

But it fits with the fact that was mentioned up thread, that the DC-10-30 just was more versatile than any L1011 variant. It seems Lockheed really made an outsize competitive error by not engineering more room for growth into the L1011. I don't recall whether CX only had -1s or some -100s, however,...

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by B-HOP
Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Malaysia have to lease MD-11s during the 1990s?
Replies: 9
Views: 3163

Re: Why did Malaysia have to lease MD-11s during the 1990s?

Sounds like the MH MD11's lease was just a temporary solution until their 777's arrived. They were probably also used on shorter flights to Australia, Singapore and Hong Kong just to not have the airplanes sitting idle doing nothing between their long haul operations. Just my guess(?) A388 MH MD11 ...

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by B-HOP
Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British operators of the DC-10
Replies: 72
Views: 7573

Re: British operators of the DC-10

Some fantastic responses here. Very interesting! I'd forgotten about Airtours. Follow-up question -- anyone know why British Caledonian didn't buy Tristars, given they were powered by British-built Rolls-Royce engines? I'm going to go with range, but still surprising. I have BCal chairman Sir Adam ...

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by B-HOP
Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rossiya Airlines acquiring 7 of BA’s 747-400’s
Replies: 37
Views: 9170

Re: Rossiya Airlines acquiring 7 of BA’s 747-400’s

I think the reason is the GE engine gung on those 747 worth more than the aircraft itself (for 767 F converisons) and ex JL are likely to be slightly order or with more cycles, BA's 744 are almost exclusively long haul, whilst JL also uses them regionally or even domestically, they are well maintain...

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by B-HOP
Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 391
Views: 90990

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

workhorse wrote:
B-HOP wrote:
In Chinese media, CI claimed the 744 pax 'loaned' some parts to the Freighter fleet, they have no need to fly just to keep crew current, they have a massive 747-400F fleet.


So the same crews fly -Fs and PAX?


I believe is the same group of crew whom operates both types.

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by B-HOP
Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did the Airbus a340 outsell the MD-11?
Replies: 136
Views: 19460

Re: Why did the Airbus a340 outsell the MD-11?

Some general suggestions: 1) A330 needs a bigger tail because when it has one engine out it loses half its thrust thus has a lot more yaw, A340 loses only a quarter of its thrust 2) Shorter aircraft need more tail area because the fuselage is shorter so tail provides less torque to counteract yaw F...

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by B-HOP
Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020
Replies: 504
Views: 38765

Re: VS to start flights to Pakistan

Nice to see a new carrier entering Pakistan. I hope VS does well and smart to commenced ops from Lahore. Not meaning to hijack this thread but perhaps SQ and CX can resume from Karachi. TG not looking good with further restructuring. VFR demand is driving the introduction of these flights. The Paki...

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by B-HOP
Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:12 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: MD-11 Transpacific Performance
Replies: 3
Views: 1141

Re: MD-11 Transpacific Performance

Remember DL had LAX-HKG, but with extra tanks and load was severely limited (around 200 pax)

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by B-HOP
Tue Aug 25, 2020 4:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 391
Views: 90990

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Heres the flight activity for CIs 4 744s from flightradar24 B18210- 6/15, 5/15, 4/23, last revenue flight 2/3 B18211 - 7/26, last rev 3/8 B18212 - 7/27, 6/28, 6/27, 6/27, 6/16, 5/31, 5/31,5/2 last rev 2/8 B18215 - 6/24, 5/27, 4/23, 3/19, last rev 3/15 Seems like they are trying to fly them once a m...

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by B-HOP
Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:20 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747-200F with blended winglets.
Replies: 18
Views: 2739

Re: 747-200F with blended winglets.

747-200 fleet were either retired (CX, SQ, NZ, UA), I mean passenger fleet, AF, JL,LH, CX still uses their cargo fleet, for aviation partners, the questions is how many verison to worth to certify out of numerous MTOW/engine options and likely to be down to CF6-50,JT9D-7Q for -200 and RB211, JT9D-7R...

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by B-HOP
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s
Replies: 54
Views: 13999

Re: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s

May I also ask, apart from KE, did anyone adopt designs that allows 742 to store luggage on carts on main door, like the middle config on page 28 on Boeing's material ? https://www.boeing.com/resources/boeingdotcom/commercial/airports/acaps/747_123sp.pdf, were the carts loaded by catering truck? I b...

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by B-HOP
Fri Aug 21, 2020 5:47 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 747-200F with blended winglets.
Replies: 18
Views: 2739

Re: 747-200F with blended winglets.

There are several reasons: 1/Boeing wants you to buy new 747-400F from them, not approve modifications that could take away its own sale, though they did plan to use similar winglet on 2001 relaunch 747X Stretch, deliver several % fuel saving, but they didn't use them on 747-400ER sold to Qantas. 2/...

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by B-HOP
Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s
Replies: 54
Views: 13999

Re: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s

On a typical Jumbo with 3 class layout you would use only around half the volume. In the old days LD3 containers would be used to load bags and these would later be loaded in the rear hold. Later on when connecting times were cut it was essential to get the transfer bags (with connecting flights) o...

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by B-HOP
Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s
Replies: 54
Views: 13999

Re: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s

Corsair's 747-400 cabin was modified in 2011 from a 582 seat configuration (24Y+ / 558Y) to a 536 seat configuration (36Y+ / 500Y). Seat capacity was further reduced in 2017 when they introduced a proper business class on a section of the upper deck. Those were refurbished NEV 4 business class seat...

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by B-HOP
Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:04 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Costs and/or benefits of flying freighters non stop vs 1 stop on ultra long flights
Replies: 27
Views: 3132

Re: Costs and/or benefits of flying freighters non stop vs 1 stop on ultra long flights

Wasnt one of the reasons FX supposedly went with the 777F (as opposed to say 747) was to allow non stops from Asia for its express packages and also by not having a stop, allow later cut off times for drop off. Yes that is one reason, around 10 years ago when FX entered th HKG route, FX ran an adv ...

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by B-HOP
Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:05 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?
Replies: 58
Views: 12248

Re: How come even after all the 777Fs coming off the line, MD-11Fs are still going strong?

Bar a couple with small operators, most MD11F are now with FX, 5X, LH, Western Global. Western Global are more like a charter, on demand operation, hours outside peak seasons were not high. FX and 5X, their hours per day were not as high as passenger flights, cycles might be higher but that could be...

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by B-HOP
Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ flights to LAS, YYZ & ORD and JFK via BRU
Replies: 54
Views: 11084

Re: SQ flights to LAS, YYZ & ORD and JFK via BRU

The AC flights shifted from LHR-BOM-SIN to YVR-LHR-DEL by 1996, on a 74E, that 74E was also deployed to HKG three times a week. SQ's SIN-SEL/ICN-YVR used 74D before 343 and 772ER. SQ's LAS route were to provide a link between HKG and LAS in the run up to Macau's gambling right being open up with gam...

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by B-HOP
Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Dubai-New York City non-stop pre-EK is by Malaysia Airlines!?
Replies: 14
Views: 4516

Re: First Dubai-New York City non-stop pre-EK is by Malaysia Airlines!?

I imagine EK as MH's handling agent, see the flight plans on the MH flights and see how much payload restriction is under and decided to wait till A345 is available or so that was the rumour. KUL-ARN-EWR was done at one point, on a 744

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by B-HOP
Wed Jul 29, 2020 3:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SQ flights to LAS, YYZ & ORD and JFK via BRU
Replies: 54
Views: 11084

Re: SQ flights to LAS, YYZ & ORD and JFK via BRU

I don't know about cargo flights, but LAS passenger flights routed via HK 3 times a week Winter 2002, the route was chopped in SARS, flown by 772ER with Spacebed. ORD was routed via AMS, alternate on days they don't operate to EWR, that was before A345 non-stop, subsequently, the flight was focused ...

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by B-HOP
Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:14 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why was the 747-500 cancelled?
Replies: 40
Views: 15468

Re: Why was the 747-500 cancelled?

747-500X and 600X was designed at the time when A3XX were still in the drawing board. It has many advanced feature include 777 wing, Fly By Wire etc, several briefing to operators were made, SQ/TG/MH/CX/BA/QF were interested but only TG signed, Asian economy started to slow in 1996, with debt being ...

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by B-HOP
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Petition to Change China Airlines name to Taiwan Airlines as Countries Mistakenly Ban it Over Caronavirus
Replies: 100
Views: 16838

Re: Petition to Change China Airlines name to Taiwan Airlines as Countries Mistakenly Ban it Over Caronavirus

In my opinion, China Airlines should keep its Chinese name, while change its English translation to a simplified CAL, or even ROCA (Republic of China Airlines). The reason for change name is the full name of China Airlines clashes with Air China. But its Chinese name is fine as Chinese speakers won...

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by B-HOP
Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DHL Network & Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 83
Views: 11841

Re: DHL Network & Fleet Thread - 2020

It's true that for some of the EAT A300s, planespotters.net says: Airframe status - stored, but when you compare that to the list at https://sites.google.com/site/lhgroupfleet/others , these aircraft are actually at maintenance. The site even indicates that 4 A300s will be transferred from Air Hong...

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by B-HOP
Thu Jul 23, 2020 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Just what made the DC-8 Super 73 freighter so popular?
Replies: 32
Views: 7084

Re: Just what made the DC-8 Super 73 freighter so popular?

There are a few things to be taken into consideration - The stretched DC-8s were only 10-15 years old when they were converted between 1982 and 1985. Combined with modern CFM56 engines it gave a stage III quiet aircraft with economics comparible to more modern types. For instance UPS which only nee...

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by B-HOP
Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DHL Network & Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 83
Views: 11841

Re: DHL Network & Fleet Thread - 2020

It's been rumoured that among the remaining ex Southern 737s, N305GT and N306GT are going to MESA and N309GT are going to iAero to join N307GT and the couple of 800Fs they've recently received. That would leave Kalitta II with just N311GT which seems a bit odd. Or are KII getting more frames for DH...

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by B-HOP
Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: BA fleet parking, 747 fleet retired
Replies: 457
Views: 105739

Re: Updated: BA fleet parking, will retire 747 fleet

NORMAN FOSTER Farewell to the Boeing 747, the greatest building ever flown. Modern architecture could learn a lot from its beauty and endurance https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/farewell-to-the-boeing-747-the-greatest-building-ever-flown-b82gts6c5 If even architect icon Sir Norman Foster sheds a t...

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by B-HOP
Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 391
Views: 90990

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

What about the 3 KL's Combis who fly almost daily to PVG? Do they take any passengers or are these flights freight only? KLM 744 Combi also operates AMS-HKG-(BKK for crew change due to recent increases in cases)-AMS five days a weeek but you can't book those flights, is for boxes only, it even park...

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by B-HOP
Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:12 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: DC-10 Weights Over Time
Replies: 16
Views: 3974

Re: DC-10 Weights Over Time

May I also tagged on this post and ask about the useful payload for DC10-30F, with range for about 8 hours, can it get up to 70,000kg?

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by B-HOP
Wed May 20, 2020 1:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: March 1st 2001, FIRST 777 trans-polar flight to HKG documentary
Replies: 27
Views: 5750

Re: March 1st 2001, FIRST 777 trans-polar flight to HKG documentary

CX planned 3 343 with heavy J class seating around 180 pax for HKG-JFK non-stop, those trio were from SQ 9V-SJA-C, they dropped the plan after 911 when the planes were receiving the final touches in Germany and the trio joined the fleet with same config as others in the fleet, before that, CX done f...

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by B-HOP
Fri May 01, 2020 6:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: East African Federation's national airline
Replies: 17
Views: 1509

Re: East African Federation's national airline

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_African_Airways, Jamaica/Barbados among-st a few smaller island are now sharing a flag carrier,I would say they would end up making one place their hub and then connect them for intercontinental market
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They have tried this before, in the form of East African Airways, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_African_Airways, Jamaica/Barbados among-st a few smaller island are now sharing a flag carrier,I would say they would end up making one place their hub and then connect them for intercontinental market

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by B-HOP
Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France 777F’s
Replies: 30
Views: 4567

Re: Air France 777F’s

Are you sure they launched the original 747-400F ? It was built in 1995 and at the time AF still had some pretty recent 747-200F. According to this article, Boeing "had" Air France in mind but they never actually ordered 747-400F until the ERF. Planespotters show that one had AF customer ...

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by B-HOP
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France 777F’s
Replies: 30
Views: 4567

Re: Air France 777F’s

Don't forget AF launched original 747-400F, I think the order was for three but that was cancelled and the first one passed on to Cargolux and the UPS (N580UP) at around 2009/10 in the run up to getting 8F. KLM also had CKD that from AF but that was returned to lessor and now fly for Air Bridge Carg...

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by B-HOP
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:41 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Air Inter at LHR
Replies: 4
Views: 676

Re: Air Inter at LHR

I remembered it was under their own number ITxxx, if I remembered correctly, Toulouse was one of the routes

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by B-HOP
Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Eastern MD-11 era in the 1990's
Replies: 5
Views: 1841

Re: China Eastern MD-11 era in the 1990's

They also flew to Hong Kong

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by B-HOP
Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020
Replies: 391
Views: 90990

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Where did JAL 747s go ? They used to have a unique version, 747Domestic They retired them in 2011, many get picked up by K4 for F converison, like JA8089, some get picked up by Atlas and others stayed carrying passengers with Transaero in Russia before it collapsed, details can be found in planespo...

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by B-HOP
Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?
Replies: 87
Views: 14681

Re: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?

My favourite story was the G-MULL got damaged by a SAM when in Ariana service, before being repaired and sold the B-Cal (where I had the pleasure of flying on her many times G-MULL had a large metal plate repair on the wing (think it was the left side) where the SAM missile had hit when it was in s...

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by B-HOP
Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Questions about JAL's B747-200 Executive Express
Replies: 28
Views: 6738

Re: Questions about JAL's B747-200 Executive Express

Those aircraft were transferred to ORD afterwards after JFK received 744. Later on, one BKK flights usec those aircraft, 742 witf F, they also send them to HKG

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by B-HOP
Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:33 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What if the L1011 had beat DC-10 to market, and the RB211 program was flawless?
Replies: 31
Views: 4195

Re: What if the L1011 had beat DC-10 to market, and the RB211 program was flawless?

No, if RB211-524 could deliver 53100lb in the form in D4 by late 70's, with extra fuel tank in the cargo hold in placee of the gallery, with the same fuselage length as -1 all together, then maybe it has a chance vs DC10-30, otherwise, L1011 is always at an disadvantage. But still, a twin is a twin ...

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by B-HOP
Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 1193
Views: 329259

Re: KL 744 Phase out News and Discussion Thread

@ factsonly To put the 747combi history in the correct context : The side cargo door option was designed and certified at a cost of $15 million in 1973/1974 and installed (modification) at two Sabena 747-100's during spring 1974. (L/N92 & 95) The first factory built 747 (the second 747-200F !) ...

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by B-HOP
Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Historical ops in HKG
Replies: 9
Views: 1316

Re: Historical ops in HKG

In 1996/7, BA has twice daily flights on 744 non-stop to Hong Kong, the earlier flights arrive at around 10am than goes to Manila (4xweekly), Taipei (3 weekly on British Asia Airways aircraft) and return the same day inn the evening for late night departure, the other arrives at late afternoon. The ...

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by B-HOP
Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:55 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Malaysia Airlines Boeing 747s
Replies: 4
Views: 474

Re: Malaysia Airlines Boeing 747s

9M-MPL is scrapped though

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by B-HOP
Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA is acquiring a flight school
Replies: 60
Views: 11346

Re: UA is acquiring a flight school

Apart from Europe, most Asian operators have young man/woman flying at the sharp end at 250 hours, many on structured program, with multiple interviews and test before getting in, China takes staggering number of 250 hours every year and on a number of hours basis, are very safe, although they have ...

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by B-HOP
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Atlantic News and Discussion Thread 2020
Replies: 504
Views: 38765

Re: Rumour: Virgin Atlantic to announce W20 schedule with new routes

I start to wonder is the HKG flights safe in long term?

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by B-HOP
Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:38 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Would the 747-8 and A380 sell well if 9/11 didn’t happen.
Replies: 23
Views: 3480

Re: Would the 747-8 and A380 sell well if 9/11 didn’t happen.

True the VLA relies heavily in Asian market, there are several factors that heavily affected that started VLA's downfall since late 1990's. The financial crisis means belts were tighten up and if 747-5/600X did get launched in 1997, it might end up with orders like A345/6, but Boeing put a brake on ...

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by B-HOP
Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:27 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why didn't Hong Kong Keep Kai Tak open?
Replies: 21
Views: 3373

Re: Why didn't Hong Kong Keep Kai Tak open?

The flightpath into 13 would interfere with approaches to 25 or take off from 07 so that is a no no, GA, almost non-existent, was moved to Shek Kong. There was one very serious effort in resuscitate Kai Tak in 2005/2006 when current plans were drawn up, it is for 800m runway similar to Meigs Field h...

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by B-HOP
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:49 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Tag on flight-who still have them
Replies: 22
Views: 1550

Tag on flight-who still have them

Given improvement in airliner's range and popularity of P2P bought in by 787, A350 et al, who still operates a short haul tag from long haul flight, I know KLM does KUL-CGK, SIN-DPS and TPE-MNL, but who else does this? Why such tag became unpopular bar improvement in aircraft? We had AF, SR, BA to M...

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by B-HOP
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:12 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why Didn't Swissair and Sabena order The 747-400?
Replies: 34
Views: 5135

Re: Why Didn't Swissair and Sabena order The 747-400?

Both didn't need the 744 as they were not big in Asia. In the late 90's, SN uses their 747-300 Combi to JNB and NRT, in fact SN took the last -300 combi in 1990, NRT was dropped in 2001 just before SN folded, SR to several US Cities like ATL, BOS (non daily), Mumbai and Hong Kong, they don't need t...

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by B-HOP
Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why Didn't Swissair and Sabena order The 747-400?
Replies: 34
Views: 5135

Re: Why Didn't Swissair and Sabena order The 747-400?

Both didn't need the 744 as they were not big in Asia. In the late 90's, SN uses their 747-300 Combi to JNB and NRT, in fact SN took the last -300 combi in 1990, NRT was dropped in 2001 just before SN folded, SR to several US Cities like ATL, BOS (non daily), Mumbai and Hong Kong, they don't need th...

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by B-HOP
Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:57 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airlines using bizjet for training
Replies: 7
Views: 1078

Airlines using bizjet for training

Just wonder apart from Lufthansa using Citation CJ for cadet pilot training and EK/EY using Phenom 100 for the same role, any other airline using business jet for training? Does China Southern still Citation V Ultra in Perth? I know CX got rid of its RJ and SQ got rid of its Mustang Were the trainin...

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by B-HOP
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Southern Network/Fleet/Going Global Discussion - 2019
Replies: 111
Views: 17901

Re: China Southern Network/Fleet/Going Global Discussion - 2019

Just a quick question, do CZ still have their 2 744F, if they still have it, where they were from? And maybe a more specific question, is their cabin/ flight crew being recruited and then based in their home base, or are they being recruited locally but based in other cities. How is their CAN-JFK ro...

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