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by winginit
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit to Jacksonville FL (JAX)
Replies: 36
Views: 2629

Re: Spirit to Jacksonville FL (JAX)

I hope NK got the NW cadre attention, and they really start utilizing a more creative schedule for JAXDTW AND JAXMSP running everything thru ATL is not as efficient as a variety of AFTERNOON departures to DTW &/or MSP could provide WEST COAST CONNECTIONS. I could maybe see that being effective ...

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by winginit
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

This guy gets it. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/2018/04/16/detroit-delta-airlines/33900163/ I don't disagree with some of what he says, but his comparison is absurd: For perspective let’s look at a hypothetical trip to London in mid-May. Round-trip, non-stop economy-class airfare on Del...

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by winginit
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions
Replies: 165
Views: 26608

Re: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions

Just for comparison here is the People Express timetable from 1985 with all in fare no bag fees and no Y+ so you can see that flying was cheaper in 1985 than it is today. http://www.departedflights.com/PE062685p39.html So you're using one carrier's timetable to make the (false) blanket statement th...

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by winginit
Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions
Replies: 165
Views: 26608

Re: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions

Obviously you never experienced coach class in the 70's and 80's. I most certainly did, and I remember it being exceptionally foul. Cigarette smoke wafting everywhere, no seat-back entertainment or wifi. Garbage. So if it's been working since the 40's let's roll the clock back to 1985 and go back t...

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by winginit
Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions
Replies: 165
Views: 26608

Re: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions

buying up for comfort is a statement of class distinction is that really the direction you want this world to go in because for the most part that is not an idea that is working in most parts of the world. :rotfl: Uhm... yes, it is the definition of product class distinction, which has been a corne...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will DL return to HKG again?
Replies: 79
Views: 8059

Re: Will DL return to HKG again?

Still gotta say, its a shock Delta will not serve Hong Kong - truly one of the worlds biggest business centers, and indeed significant market from the U.S. That's my gut reaction as well, but if we go back to the early 2000's I can't recall even NW serving HKG from the US apart from the NRT-HKG fif...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What the heck is going on with American Airlines?
Replies: 196
Views: 29667

Re: What the heck is going on with American Airlines?

Apologies for resurrecting this thread, but a new Seeking Alpha opinion piece came out today that's probably discussion worthy: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4206297-american-airlines-beaten-pulp Quick tidbit below, with the overall conclusion being that as American tapers off debt acquisition it...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: No flights from SFO/SJC/SEA/PDX to all of South America? And just 1 to Central America?
Replies: 44
Views: 2767

Re: No flights from SFO/SJC/SEA/PDX to all of South America? And just 1 to Central America?

I think people in the United States often forget just how far East Central and South America are. To add a bit of weight behind the "no need to overfly a hub" argument, from a longitude perspective, Lima is aligned with the East Coast of the United States, and GRU the middle of the Atlanti...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will DL return to HKG again?
Replies: 79
Views: 8059

Re: Will DL return to HKG again?

The DL KE JV does not include mainland china. China does not permit 3rd party codesharing. That said, you could still fly, say, DTW-ICN on DL and then switch to KE for an ICN- China segment. Delta just wouldnt put their code on the ICN - China segment, and only the overwater portion would be shared...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will DL return to HKG again?
Replies: 79
Views: 8059

Re: Will DL return to HKG again?

NW flew SEA-HKG. I agree DL should not have cancelled the 788 order. They could have been used to fly JFK/SEA/LAX-HKG. Of the US3, it seems weak that AA and DL are so far behind UA in developing robust Asian networks. DL seems to have gutted NW’s operations. I understand that DL is more financially...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: EI to MSP and YUL in 2019
Replies: 173
Views: 9713

Re: Confirmed: EI to MSP and YUL in 2019

So back to the question. What made DUB-MSP more valuable to Aer Lingus than it did to Delta. They both had the same data. Let's be clear - they both have their own internal data, but they're only looking at the same industry data that only tells a fraction of the story. As for why it was more valua...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Chose a return and then show me your total you have to do the whole itinerary to get the total cost. This has already been discussed up the thread it's one way. I did pull the fares that's how I know. The AA.com translation from Google Flights issue has now been resolved so it's pricing correctly. ...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: EI to MSP and YUL in 2019
Replies: 173
Views: 9713

Re: Confirmed: EI to MSP and YUL in 2019

It would be interesting to know if the same presentation that was given to EI to land MSP-DUB was given to Delta. If not why wasn't Delta given the same opportunity to add a MSP-DUB flight as was EI and if it was why did Delta not chose MSP-DUB itself. Also indicating that if it was given equal opp...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

The AA and oneworld fares are only one way do a round trip and you'll see they double Pay attention and keep up. Every single pull I did was round-trip. All of them. Screenshot below. Or, even better, put in a singular ounce of effort and pull fares yourself - you'll see what I posted is correct fo...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

The cheapest I found for my days of travel were $1300 on AA over CLT and that wasn't worth my time or money You can't just quote a one-off example and say that's reflective of the entire pricing climate. You have to lift an actual finger and do some due diligence. Let's actually do that using DTWFR...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Well I disagree too I paid well north of $1000 to fly DTW-FRA in comfort+ in December. That's because you're flying nonstop. There's always a premium for flying nonstop. Try to compare DTW-FRA-ABC with DTW-KEF-ABC for an actual comparison. And compare equivalent fare classes. Comfort+ is absolutely...

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by winginit
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

You “conveniently” left out SEA, DEN, SLC, CLT and others - all of which will be near the top of your list, leaving DTW well below average and in the range of markets (NYC, BOS, IAH, etc.) that are geographically challenged in handling large amounts of domestic connections. This, you’re validifing ...

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by winginit
Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

I agree 100% with you on that strategy but again it comes down to zero results as far as low cost entrants into the market. Spirit, the fastest growing carrier in DTW for several years running now, would strongly disagree with that. While we have WW here with confidence enough to run it 4 weekly th...

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by winginit
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

So I will pose the same question to you again what opportunities should the airport be chasing as far as expansion and growing this market. I would also like to know what has the great efforts of WCAA route planning yielded this market because as far as I can tell everything that has been added in ...

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by winginit
Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Minneapolis has a large company (Medtronic) that is headquartered in Ireland now. It used to be a fortune 500 until it merged with Covidien and did an inversion so it is now an Irish company but Minneapolis still has a majority of the company. In addition it has other health care companies (primari...

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by winginit
Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: AA drops ORD-PEK/PVG, reduces NRT
Replies: 456
Views: 57673

Re: UPDATED: AA drops ORD-PEK/PVG, reduces NRT

My two cents is that yield out of LAX will be crap overall. Only 2 out of 14 (soon 15 if HU is really starting LAX-XIY) airports in PRC that have non-stop to US doesn't have a flight to LAX (WUH, which only has CZ service to SFO, and FOC, which only has MF service to JFK, although FOC-JFK is a larg...

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by winginit
Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

make no mistake Delta is down sizing Detroit I know you don't have any access to capacity data, so allow me to use facts to refute your again incorrect claim: Delta has increased seat capacity in and out of Detroit every. single. year. since 2015. That's a fact. Your claim that Delta is downsizing ...

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by winginit
Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

make no mistake Delta is down sizing Detroit I know you don't have any access to capacity data, so allow me to use facts to refute your again incorrect claim: Delta has increased seat capacity in and out of Detroit every. single. year. since 2015. That's a fact. Your claim that Delta is downsizing ...

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by winginit
Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: AA drops ORD-PEK/PVG, reduces NRT
Replies: 456
Views: 57673

Re: UPDATED: AA drops ORD-PEK/PVG, reduces NRT

You are completely wrong. No. I'm not. Delta is doing just fine on LAX-PVG No. They're not. When Ed was in LAX maybe two months ago he said very clearly in his town hall that LAXPVG was DL's worst LAX performer, was a notable loss-maker, and that a top corporate priority was turning the route aroun...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

GA is at 34% enuff said, number of passport holders has nothing to do with the amount of international service at an airport. Uhhh... you were the one who asked for the stat by state... you literally said it would be useful less than an hour ago... Do you not remember that? Here I'll refresh your m...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

While that may be true that 42% of Americans have passports that has nothing to do with the very diverse international population that resides in Southeastern Michigan. A better indicator would be what percentage of Michigan residents have passports and then we can have a much clearer picture of wh...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions
Replies: 165
Views: 26608

Re: EK looks to grow US network; considers smaller 787/777 versions

Tim Clark at this weeks Aviation Festival event in London says its U.S market has recovered and is considering adding back previously canceled second frequencies in markets like BOS and LAX. He also says they are considering secondary US cities - and could access them using smaller 787-9 or 777-8 a...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

If you tell the tax payers we are going to throw 2 Million at a new flight that will cut the cost in half of flying to Europe and stimulate the economy of South Eastern Michigan there would be an overwhelming acceptance of taxpayer money to make that happen. That is absolutely, categorically false....

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

I attached an article filled with data that backs up my claim the DTW-DUB was viable and WW has also more than proven that fact also by continuing their service through the winter So let me get this straight - because WW didn't suspend their DTW-KEF flight after five months of operation DTW-DUB is ...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

If you tell the tax payers we are going to throw 2 Million at a new flight that will cut the cost in half of flying to Europe and stimulate the economy of South Eastern Michigan there would be an overwhelming acceptance of taxpayer money to make that happen. That is absolutely, categorically false....

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

So again by the numbers EI is very viable in the DTW market with a narrow body 4X weekly in the summer and 3X weekly in the winter not to mention they might even get a lot of customer from South Western Ontario who are using YYZ for their travel. What 'numbers' are you referring to? You've made it ...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPDATED: AA drops ORD-PEK/PVG, reduces NRT
Replies: 456
Views: 57673

Re: UPDATED: AA drops ORD-PEK/PVG, reduces NRT

Kind of hilarious some west coast bias tries to argue that Chicago isn't a big epicenter. Chicago is metropolis of the midwest. Boeing and United's home. Of course they are making it work out. AA has always made ORD feel second-rate to their other hubs. DL does want ATL-PEK, but not over LAX-PEK. T...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

GRR could offer EI 20M in subsidies and DTW could offer what the budget is planned and GRR is going to get the service. That's particularly similar to why PIT got WOW even before Chicago. PIT got BA before DTW because of their incentives, so I wouldn't be surprised to see PIT get EI so that the IAG...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

I don't think it's the incentives, I think it's airlines having an irrational fear that Delta is going to destroy them in the same market and NK is going to wedge them in between. Where has this proven to be to be true aside from PDX? B6 is doing horrible on FLL because they're sandwiched (by the w...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Our airport could have been a bit more enthusiastic than this. “Fortunately there has been some interest in Detroit-Dublin, hopefully it’s getting closer to being served,” Maybe something like "We are pulling out all the stops to make this route happen and get Aer Lingus into the Detroit marke...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 7:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1566
Views: 91557

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Our airport could have been a bit more enthusiastic than this. “Fortunately there has been some interest in Detroit-Dublin, hopefully it’s getting closer to being served,” Maybe something like "We are pulling out all the stops to make this route happen and get Aer Lingus into the Detroit marke...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”
Replies: 154
Views: 13818

Re: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”

jetbluefan1 wrote:
Thanks for the data points (any chance you have fare data? I have been searching for it but can’t find anything useful for international markets).


Unfortunately I can't share International DB1B data. I probably already push the limits a bit but that's one thing that will actually get flagged.

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”
Replies: 154
Views: 13818

Re: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”

As for schedule, that's another overhyped myth here. For vast majority of corporate travelers on company dime, you have to be quite flexible with your time. In your experience maybe, but it's important to point out that nearly 50% of corporate revenue between NYC and LON comes from 20 accounts - th...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian reports strong passenger growth and high load factors in August
Replies: 68
Views: 6195

Re: Norwegian reports strong passenger growth and high load factors in August

I would have thought that although there are no true LCCs competing across the Pacific, the mainland Chinese airlines must surely act in a similar way to Norwegian, WOW, Primera, given the insanely cheap prices you can find for US-Asia in Economy. They absolutely do, but mostly only in the markets ...

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by winginit
Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”
Replies: 154
Views: 13818

Re: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”

It's hard to see how DL or BA would be able to react quickly and effectively to B6 flying an heavily Mint-configured A220-100 on JFK/BOS-LCY. Talk about disruptive! Huh? You're aware that BA essentially already does exactly that ... yes? Indeed, sorry for not pointing that out. But the return has t...

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by winginit
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”
Replies: 154
Views: 13818

Re: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”

And you can bet if B6 negotiates a good fixed rate with their corporate partner in BOS to fly to London, that's what they will be exclusively flying. DY does not have a true premium product and will not show up on corporate accounts, B6 will. I'm not sure you fully grasp how corporate contracting a...

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by winginit
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”
Replies: 154
Views: 13818

Re: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”

jetbluefan1 wrote:

It's hard to see how DL or BA would be able to react quickly and effectively to B6 flying an heavily Mint-configured A220-100 on JFK/BOS-LCY. Talk about disruptive!


Huh?

You're aware that BA essentially already does exactly that... yes?

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by winginit
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”
Replies: 154
Views: 13818

Re: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”

If they can make all J config A220-100 work on JFK-LCY, I would imagine they go with that. 2 daily BOS-LCY would be competitive to legacy JV's BOS-LHR schedule. I think we both know that those are highly unlikely. It'll be 321LRs with Mint. Otherwise, I would imagine LGW, which does show up on my c...

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by winginit
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”
Replies: 154
Views: 13818

Re: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”

They believe they can cut the front cabin pricing by half which would devastate the legacies jv. Some good chuckles out of that one. Even if they blanketed BOS and JFK (in what... five years time?) it wouldn't 'devastate' the legacy JVs. Mint has been a somewhat impactful cup in the bucket that is ...

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by winginit
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian reports strong passenger growth and high load factors in August
Replies: 68
Views: 6195

Re: Norwegian reports strong passenger growth and high load factors in August

I think you've furthered my point here. Norwegian's growth is ~4.5X that of RyanAir yet their debt to equity ratio is 7X! Again - help us out here - what is the path to long-term independent financial viability? Also, because we're playing the stats game, even during RyanAir's more aggressive growt...

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by winginit
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian reports strong passenger growth and high load factors in August
Replies: 68
Views: 6195

Re: Norwegian reports strong passenger growth and high load factors in August

This article implies otherwise no? Where does it imply (or otherwise) that "there are several new Norwegian Boeing 787's standing at the factory finished" ? You'll need to point it out to me please. Ah. Yes fair enough it does not make that specification, and per the production tracker it...

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by winginit
Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Can't American Airlines Make Germany Work?
Replies: 84
Views: 15453

Re: Why Can't American Airlines Make Germany Work?

believeinflight wrote:
Doesn't Pennsylvania have a huge German population (case in point - Amish presence)?


A large portion of Pennsylvania has Germany ancestry, but a much smaller proportion is those who are German-born and would thus travel to and from.

You'll find the Amish aren't doing a whole lot of flying ;)

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by winginit
Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”
Replies: 154
Views: 13818

Re: “Someday jetBlue will be in Europe”

They believe they can cut the front cabin pricing by half which would devastate the legacies jv. Some good chuckles out of that one. Even if they blanketed BOS and JFK (in what... five years time?) it wouldn't 'devastate' the legacy JVs. Mint has been a somewhat impactful cup in the bucket that is ...

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