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by MaxiAir
Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phtGLHpUi3s
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First cabin video of C-GEGP. Guess thats the best aircraft in the Air Canada fleet for now. Enhanced interior and all new products throughout the whole cabin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phtGLHpUi3s

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by MaxiAir
Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

Thanks for the information! What I meant was the moving map display on the ND. The A330 “enhanced” have the A350/380 moving map and BTV systems. But you’re probably right, the future AC birds from SQ have higher MTOW, but are not the true A330-343Es like SAS’s new builds. KrisYYZ Do you mean that t...

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by MaxiAir
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

C-GOFW is listed as a A330E, not a X version. Will this be the first A330 enhanced for AC? I think the A330Es have the higher MTW and the moving map display. https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Air%20Canada-planed-a330.htm KrisYYZ First, the "moving map", you mean on the IFE systems? That...

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by MaxiAir
Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

Update time? New Config (32C/24W/241Y) 934 C-GFUR MSN 344 - active 942 C-GEGP MSN 1015 - highly likely to feature the new config, possibly some rework needed before re-entry into service In Refurbishment 944 C-GKUG MSN 1149 - transferred from SIN to QPG for refurb on 2nd March 947 C-GOFW MSN 1485 (n...

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by MaxiAir
Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

Some very nice pictures of the reconfigured frame: https://www.instagram.com/p/CB168bUD-Cl/?igshid=1m5t9xm78jdgo Edit: Maybe I should add it entered service today. Thanks for the post!! Signature pods, new seats and IFE look great! Wish they had gone a bit further and updated the ancient bins, side...

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by MaxiAir
Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

https://www.instagram.com/p/CB168bUD-Cl ... t9xm78jdgo


Edit: Maybe I should add it entered service today.
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Some very nice pictures of the reconfigured frame:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CB168bUD-Cl ... t9xm78jdgo


Edit: Maybe I should add it entered service today.

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by MaxiAir
Sat May 23, 2020 10:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 747
Views: 117461

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

From what I understand is that limitation of the 777 was that the max wheel speed would be exceeded prior to V1 in JNB, it wasn't so much as an engine or wing performance. Not aimed at you or your response in particular, as many answers hit in that direction. I have a huge problem with the claims t...

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by MaxiAir
Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing is sued for $336 million over canceled 737 MAX order
Replies: 57
Views: 9912

Re: Boeing is sued for $336 million over canceled 737 MAX order

The amount being requested probably gives us an insight into the amount for deposits that Boeing would typically have, something normally held confidential and would normally not slip. 336 mio USD translates to 8,4 mio per aircraft. Does this give any insight on the purchase price as well? Has anyo...

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by MaxiAir
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

What will AC do with the three A333s that were scheduled to be delivered this year? Will they take them and park others? or, perhaps, park some 763's... I think it’s safe to say the 763s will be done right away. I guess AC is in a comfortable situation with their fleet. They can easily retire a hug...

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by MaxiAir
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

So then its probably time for an update. Also Skyliner reported a new addition to the registry. New Config (32C/24W/241Y) 934 C-GFUR MSN 344 - still not back in service In Refurbishment 942 C-GEGP MSN 1015 - in QPG for quite some time (as pictures suggest an enhanced cabin aircraft has been reconfig...

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by MaxiAir
Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA transfers MLE to LHR; upgrades to 77W
Replies: 25
Views: 6916

Re: BA transfers MLE to LHR; upgrades to 77W

Please delete. Same point has already been made

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by MaxiAir
Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

Another preview of Air Canada's new Premium Economy Cabin in the A333 https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49607955146_19c87e61bd_c.jpg FIN 934 (C-GFUR) returning to QPG on a test flight. She has since departed QPG for YYZ on 28FEB20 https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49607443473_db8d9a8e90_c.jpg T...

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by MaxiAir
Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

Thanks tofur! Looks like they're keeping the ancient bins / ceiling which is a shame as the current bins/ceiling and side panels look so much better, was hoping they'd include those in the re-fit. So you've got to wait for the first refit of an ex Singapore aircraft, they'll keep their enhanced cab...

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by MaxiAir
Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 105
Views: 21831

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020

D-AINO 100% has the old cabin. Though I’m curious which LH A320neo was the first to be equipped with the new cabin. The switch happend somewhere mid 2019, don't know precisely which one. There were no 320neo's between Jun '19 and Jan '20. Does this mean that D-AINV/W/X (that were the first 32N deli...

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by MaxiAir
Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: Virgin Atlantic to announce W20 schedule with new routes
Replies: 193
Views: 37939

Re: Rumour: Virgin Atlantic to announce W20 schedule with new routes

So on page one, a leisure config for the A350-1000 was mentioned, given that the fleet will only consist of 12, I question the feasibility of having such small subfleets. And if so, is the final config known? I did play around a bit, sadly I have no to scale LOPA available for the Virgin 35K, but my...

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by MaxiAir
Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 105
Views: 21831

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020

All NEOs delivered from now on have a group spec. Same cabin for LH/LX/OS and other harmonizations What's the difference between that and what the older A320neos have? I was in D-AINO last year - is that new or old spec? D-AINO 100% has the old cabin. Though I’m curious which LH A320neo was the fir...

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by MaxiAir
Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020
Replies: 105
Views: 21831

Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020

A321Lufthansa wrote:
zkojq wrote:
First Swiss A320neo is about to be delivered.

I see it also features a new cabin. When can we expect first LH A320neo equipped with it?

There are already a few flying with this cabin, even A320ceo’s

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by MaxiAir
Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 110
Views: 23694

Re: AC A330 Fleet News and Updates Discussion Thread - 2020

Do we need a refurbishment thread? Or shall we collect these infos here? New Config (32C/24W/241Y) In Refurbishment 934 C-GFUR MSN 344 (done test flights after 7th, 10th and 21st February) 936 C-GHKW MSN 408 (arrived for reconfig in Singapore 31st January) 942 C-GEGP MSN 1015 (stored in Singapore Pr...

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by MaxiAir
Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 344
Views: 72208

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

You really need a solid education in corporate business practices. ROI. The 777-200LR aftermarket is zero value. They can't be sold to anyone, so the only other option is to run them into the ground. However, that does come with the question of why they'd fly such a long route on such an inefficien...

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by MaxiAir
Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LOT to get more A320s, 20% fleet is not flying
Replies: 48
Views: 14525

Re: LOT to get more A320s, 20% fleet is not flying

Now 3 Airbus 340s from Air Belgium are flying for LOT, but Long haul flights are getting cancelled, something I would not expect in slow season. Only 2 Air Belgium ones are flying for LOT, the third one is Hifly's 9H-SUN OO-ABA is operating for Surinam, OO-ABB their own flights to Gouadeloupe/Marti...

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by MaxiAir
Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020
Replies: 1405
Views: 254419

Re: Updated: Qantas picks A350-1000 as preferred platform for Project Sunrise; Final decision due March 2020

When QF presented their A380, it looked like the interior of a KC10 or some other military transport, with kaki green seats. Their new seats on their new B789 C class are also not comparable to the thrones that you get on SQ's new A380 or EK's A380 C class. It seems you are easily impressed by some...

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by MaxiAir
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United orders 50 A321 XLR, defers A350's to 2027
Replies: 481
Views: 85121

Re: United orders 50 A321 XLR

By 2027, the 77W are nearing beginning of their replacement era. I can see conversion to A35K’s for delivery later in the decade. Direct replacements of 77W (with a small loss of seats due to 9ab instead of 10ab), and some up-gauging of 772 routes. When has United replaced aircraft only 10 years ol...

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by MaxiAir
Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why haven't the 787's electronic tinting windows been used on other aircraft?
Replies: 99
Views: 21273

Re: Why haven't the 787's electronic tinting windows been used on other aircraft?

Jomar777 wrote:
I believe that Boeing has some sort of patent on this otherwise the A350 would have them.


You can believe a lot, if you want, but Airbus didn't consider these windows worth putting on their new aircraft. (Surely there have been several assessments)

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by MaxiAir
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why haven't the 787's electronic tinting windows been used on other aircraft?
Replies: 99
Views: 21273

Re: Why haven't the 787's electronic tinting windows been used on other aircraft?

Despite my efforts to avoid this awful aircraft, I accumulated a hand full of flights on the 787 and I documented several quality shortcomings. The vast majority related to SFE items, so interior parts supplied by Boeing without the airlines being able to choose. Although there are many more qualit...

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by MaxiAir
Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why haven't the 787's electronic tinting windows been used on other aircraft?
Replies: 99
Views: 21273

Re: Why haven't the 787's electronic tinting windows been used on other aircraft?

So what? It’s not as if airlines have any obligation to onboard photographers. Some people claim they don’t get dark enough. You’re clo plaining that they are not transparent enough. Based on the blog replies, I’d say Boeing. Got it just about right. Wow, of course not, but that wasn’t my point. Ha...

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by MaxiAir
Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why haven't the 787's electronic tinting windows been used on other aircraft?
Replies: 99
Views: 21273

Re: Why haven't the 787's electronic tinting windows been used on other aircraft?

Despite my efforts to avoid this awful aircraft, I accumulated a hand full of flights on the 787 and I documented several quality shortcomings. The vast majority related to SFE items, so interior parts supplied by Boeing without the airlines being able to choose. Although there are many more quality...

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by MaxiAir
Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair considers A321neo and possible all-Airbus fleet
Replies: 146
Views: 28785

Re: Icelandair considers A321neo and possible all-Airbus fleet

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... bus-report
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Does anyone have access to Ch-aviation and can enlighten us on this new Article?

Icelandair likely to change Boeing fleet to Airbus - report

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... bus-report

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by MaxiAir
Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Belgium flying to Montreal today Aug. 2nd
Replies: 7
Views: 2733

Re: Air Belgium flying to Montreal today Aug. 2nd

Funny, they have four aircraft in the fleet and manage to have three different configuration although it could prove useful. https://www.airbelgium.com/en/on-board/seating-map Its two configurations, as they only designate the second C-class cabin as Premium Eco in one config and as all 4 aircraft ...

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by MaxiAir
Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa A319 hit at FRA
Replies: 31
Views: 12252

Re: Lufthansa A319 hit at FRA

Apparently it is back in service already. Its not. I'm just quoting Stefan Eiselin, the chief editor of Aerotelegraph: https://www.aerotelegraph.com/blechschaden-bei-airbus-a319-von-lufthansa The last sentence "Inzwischen fliegt er bereits wieder" has been removed. There are still copies ...

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by MaxiAir
Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa A319 hit at FRA
Replies: 31
Views: 12252

Re: Lufthansa A319 hit at FRA

AIRT0M wrote:
Apparently it is back in service already.


Its not.

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by MaxiAir
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lufthansa A319 hit at FRA
Replies: 31
Views: 12252

Re: Lufthansa A330 hit at FRA

Its D-AILR, an A319

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by MaxiAir
Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737MAX Cancellations, China Southern and others
Replies: 49
Views: 9957

Re: 737MAX Cancellations, China Southern and others

In their just released quarterly report, GE identify a potential business threat - their association with the MAX financially and reputation. I guess that grounding is not only a threat for the big players, but much more so for many suppliers down the "food" chain. I wonder if Boeing woul...

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by MaxiAir
Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737MAX Cancellations, China Southern and others
Replies: 49
Views: 9957

Re: 737MAX Cancellations, China Southern and others

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/chin ... rder-18876
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Polot wrote:
Your link doesn’t work.


It did work a few minutes ago, they seem tp have deleted it. Here’s another one I found on google

https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/news/chin ... rder-18876

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by MaxiAir
Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737MAX Cancellations, China Southern and others
Replies: 49
Views: 9957

Re: 737MAX Cancellations, China Southern and others

how many more are on order in China by various Chinese airlines? Surely these are all prime to be cancelled? There is: (should be roughly accurate) (delivered) 9 Air - (1) + 2 Air China - (16) +29 CALC China (Lessor) 50 China Eastern (3)+36 (China Southern) (24) +56 cancelled Donghai Airlines 25 Go...

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by MaxiAir
Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 737MAX Cancellations, China Southern and others
Replies: 49
Views: 9957

737MAX Cancellations, China Southern and others

Hi together, hadn't seen a thread about that as such. I'd like to collect and discuss all cancellations after or due to the grounding. Especially, as China Southern apparently announced their cancellation today. China Southern with 56 orders and probably 30 additional which were still pending govern...

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by MaxiAir
Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing falsified records for a 787 sold to AC
Replies: 92
Views: 27803

Re: Boeing falsified records for a 787 sold to AC

I really like Boeing, but in the last 6 months they've showed themselves to be extremely petty. Actually, there were serious quality issues with the NG, just didn't get much attention. Parts from suppliers not meeting spec; then falsified, for poorly corrected and still installed. there was a whole...

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by MaxiAir
Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Completes First Boeing 767-400 Cabin Refurbishment
Replies: 66
Views: 17228

Re: Delta Completes First Boeing 767-400 Cabin Refurbishment

Is it normal for "maintenance and heavy refurbishments" to take almost 7 months to complete? (...) New cabins get installed when the plane gets stripped to the bones for normal heavy MX checks so yes 6 months is a good time frame especially when fitting a new cabin into a new plane. (...)...

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by MaxiAir
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus a330-900 460 seats
Replies: 75
Views: 12587

Re: Airbus a330-900 460 seats

Airbus has wider doors. A pair here and a pair there is more than enough to increase exit limits. This is not a tough PIP. Type A doors are the biggest available and it already has 4 pairs of them to cope with 440 pax. You can only certify this with overperforming exits. Evacuation tests and simula...

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by MaxiAir
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019
Replies: 1187
Views: 532536

Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Etihad A6-XWA has rolled out of paint at XFW https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9K-kgdXsAE951s?format=jpg https://twitter.com/Tobias_Gudat/status/1140183202360963072?s=20 Looks amazing, hoping for a better clear shot soon ! Etihad livery is probably the most modern looking out there and one of the few to...

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by MaxiAir
Tue May 07, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Delta A330neo & Etihad A350-1000 Spotted Flying
Replies: 44
Views: 11140

Re: First Delta A330neo & Etihad A350-1000 Spotted Flying

I could also provide one a bit less blurry

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by MaxiAir
Thu May 02, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet
Replies: 38
Views: 12308

Re: QR to withdraw its A346 fleet

I drove to Enschede yesterday to capture this sad moment. A pity it arrived quite late, when the sun had nearly set: https://abload.de/thumb/img_8800b_1200stkc0.jpg https://www.facebook.com/flyMaxiAir/photos/a.337673443053378/1301836969970349/ I flew A7-AGB only back in December. So sad to see these...

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by MaxiAir
Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian Airlines 787 New Business Class Seats
Replies: 27
Views: 7085

Re: Hawaiian Airlines 787 New Business Class Seats

Isn't that the QR Qsuite? Perhaps in a mildly updated form? No, it isn’t. The QSuite is made by Collins, the supplier for the Hawaiian Seat is Adient Aerospace. Also the seats pictures are not forward/rearward alternating, as the qsuite is. These pictures show a classical staggered seat, like for e...

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by MaxiAir
Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LH to order 100 B737MAX or A320NEO next year
Replies: 211
Views: 36956

Re: LH to order 100 B737MAX or A320NEO next year

I think this is an order rather for Eurowings(+Brussels) and maybe SunExpress, also Condor (?) than LH itself. But it would be nice to see some Boeing NB in LH Colors though. But it will never happen. AFAIK the Eurowings fleet is cluttered with very old A32X frames (ex LH D-AIP* series), old A320 e...

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by MaxiAir
Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG
Replies: 25
Views: 5541

Re: Air Senegal takes delivery of it's first A330neo and launches CDG

https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2018/03/2 ... rt-canyon/
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SQ22 wrote:
Well the seat is already in operation at SQ since last year.


Nope, the 787-10 seat at SQ is a Solstys seat:

https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2018/03/2 ... rt-canyon/

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by MaxiAir
Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: RR delivers 2000th Trent 700
Replies: 43
Views: 6143

Re: RR delivers 2000th Trent 700

As best I can tell, by 24th December RR had delivered... 180 x XWB 114 x T1000 76 x T700 44 x T900 2 x T7000 That's 416. My numbers may be "out" by a couple here or there but it can't be by much. Doubtless, there will be a flurry of last-minute deliveries in the next couple of days but we...

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by MaxiAir
Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Growing A321NEO orderbook share might lead to assembly challenges
Replies: 46
Views: 6900

Re: Growing A321NEO orderbook share might lead to assembly challenges

To add, the first ACF/LR has not yet been delivered and has just been certified. The May deliveries were good old normal A321neo with the four doors and the current slow deliveries are also normal A321neo. Those birds are nor afected by problems with the ACF version. Don’t mix up ACF and LR. You ca...

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by MaxiAir
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LATAM fleet repaint update thread
Replies: 66
Views: 12280

Re: LATAM Fleet Repaint Updates

Have any further repaints taken place?

Especially regarding the newer A320's from Chile. CC-BFT, BFU, BFV, BFW, BFX?

Thanks

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by MaxiAir
Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: arkia A321N anti-missile kit
Replies: 9
Views: 3856

Re: arkia A321N anti-missile kit

What is the X on A321-251N X stands for ? I believe it stands for LR? No, the LR is nothing really "fixed". Just marketing basically. Depends on the configuration of ACT's (additional fuel tanks) installed The X stands for the ACF (Airbus Cabin Flex) option, as correctly mentioned above

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by MaxiAir
Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread 2018
Replies: 689
Views: 206943

Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Not only the Air New Zealand did make an appearance yesterday, but also the Arkia



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by MaxiAir
Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MAS 787 MOU with Boeing lapses
Replies: 29
Views: 6893

Re: MAS 787 MOU with Boeing lapses

[ If it was Thai Airways it would be 6 787 (2 GE & 3 RR), 2 A330-300 (1 GE, 1 RR), 4 A350-900, 2 737max, 2 A320neo PW, an SSJ, 2 Ejets and a couple CRj's. With the 6th 787 sitting engineless on the ground because they couldn't decide? Back to topic. We all don't know what will happen with MAS, ...

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