Not trying to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative here (honestly), but we might want to consider what is "777E-type capability" in today's age? Airbus has claimed for some time that the HGW models of the A330-300 could cover some 90% of the 777-200ER's scheduled missions a...Jump to post
The 777x is being sustained by one airline. Except it really isn't. Emirates may currently have the bulk of frames on order with Qatar well behind, but you also have five other airlines in Europe and Asia that each have ~20 each on order, which is a decent size fleet and a UFO (probably Chinese) th...Jump to post
The comment about the 78Js being destined mainly for Asian routes suggests that the 78Js NZ has contracted for do not incorporate any transformational improvement in capability. Or it could be that is where the immediate need is for a high-capacity, high-efficiency frame. I don't know where Air New...Jump to post
Yes because they are sticking to featuring F Class products. You can throw the ME3 and ANA in there as well.. But we know F is dying at many airlines and of the over 800 777Ws delivered, less than 50 have left their original airline. The replacement cycle still hasn't really started.. How many of t...Jump to post
True but they are basically even now with the 777-9 having more modern engine tech. Once the engines are at parity the 777-9 will only have capacity as an advantage. We see how well that worked out for the A380 vs the 777W. Well capacity does seem to be an advantage for Cathay and British Airways, ...Jump to post
I'm still convinced that Airbus will need a new mid-sized mid-long range replacement of the A330 at some point down the line. Between the A330neo and 787, that market is going to be pretty much filled for the next couple of decades so I don't see a need for Airbus to move the A350 down into that ma...Jump to post
I'm quite skeptical about the prospects of an A350-1200 / A350-2000. Such a frame would probably need to be close to 80 meters, and I wonder what modifications will need to be made to support rotation clearance at that length. Going to Type A+ doors will raise the exit limit from 440 to 480, which w...Jump to post
MPadhi wrote:Why is it that Boeing have managed to implement laminar flow tails into production 787s since around 2015 but Airbus hasn't managed to?
BR was for a long time the launch customer for the 77L, however when the 77W turned out to be a better/longer ranged performer than predicted, BR felt its performance was sufficient to cover the mission profile planned for the -LR. We saw numerous examples of that in the 238T+ A333 as well. Once it...Jump to post
Boeing's done this before. When they launched the 777-200LR and 777-300ER, demand for the 777-200LR was so weak they stopped development for a number of years and focused on getting the 777-300ER into service. Once that was done, they restarted work on the 777-200LR and also developed the 777 Freigh...Jump to post
Kind of not surprised. FedEx and UPS really like the plane and Amazon may eventually decide to operate their own metal so they would need a significant number. I'm guessing UPS is getting ready to start A300-600 replacements (AirFleets shows the average age of the fleet is 16 years) and they operate...Jump to post
With a production of 14 per month is 787 selling enough per year? How long is 14 per month planned to stay as production rate? Leeham.net's analysis predicts that with current orders, Boeing can fill 2020 and 2021, but will only have enough scheduled deliveries to fill about half of 2022's producti...Jump to post
It's just really odd timing for Boeing to decide to drop the 'mothballing' announcement, but then again, aviation some times is an odd business. If QF wants to delay (again, speculation on my part) and existing customers are talking cancellation, conversion or deferral then I could understand why B...Jump to post
If Airbus goes ahead with the 1000ULR to win 'Sunrise,' isn't that a fool's errand? I mean, who besides Qantas and Singapore would want this plane? Development costs could only be spread among those carriers, who would 'expect' favorable pricing from Airbus I would reckon. Is there any money to be ...Jump to post
There seems to be confusion as to whether the -900 and -1000 center tanks are the same size, the ACAP doesn't give tank sizes just total load, could you point us to public information on if this is true or not. According to Leeham.net, in an interview with Airbus about the fuel system of the A350 f...Jump to post
The vibration stresses that this induces on the engine must surely have been ascertained and dampened down to a very high degree of precision by GE; a problem with insufficient stall margin is a distinct possibility, as well as too small a blade count or incompatible blade count rows as Lightsaber ...Jump to post
So I guess the Freighter will likely be based on the -9X instead of the -8X? Or the -8X becomes solely a Freighter once 777F orders dwindle to the point a production shift becomes viable? The 777-8 makes the most sense as a replacement for the 777 Freighter. 777 Freighter sales are still decent at ...Jump to post
With the B778 headed for the freezer, the B779 delayed, an A35JULR to be launched, the B737 MAX strangling Boeing's cash flow, I wonder if Airbus isn't moving to ambush the B777X. If Airbus plays its cards right, they could kill the B77X with a A35J/A380 combo. Well the A380-800 is no longer availa...Jump to post
Hard to see why Boeing would put 778 development on ice if they were still in contention for the QF Sunrise order. So QF are signalling they will go for the A35K? That would explain the A35KULR story from yesterday. Even if they were still in contention (I have no idea, just speculation), with Etih...Jump to post
ng would do this if they were still in contention for the Project Sunrise order. How do we read this: a win for the A35K on technical/commercial grounds? AJ lost patience with delays in 779 development/testing? Boeing needing to cut back on investment pending MAX return to service and 797 launch? P...Jump to post
The EK B777X renegotiate and delay, combined with this news ... I guess it can really make you wonder. Quote "Airbus intend to have the aircraft available to airline customers before the 777X is able to gain a significant hold of the extreme end of the long-haul market." Sounds like the B...Jump to post
Well 480 seats could be achieved with a Type II exit.
Or is Airbus looking to certify a larger Type A door like they did with the Type C+ on the A321?
A Type A+ that would allow 120 passengers per exit pair compared to the 110 of the Type A would boost the Exit Limit to 480.
So we're thinking EK will convert their A350-900s to A350-1000ULRs, drop the A330-900 and re-confirm their original 787-10 MOU into a solid order? Makes sense if we believe EK is going to contract - they will not want to open new thin long-haul flights which is where the A350-900 would have served t...Jump to post
FrenchBee (I hope that's what you meant) are a low cost leisure airlines and they fill their aircrafts to the brim with seats. As of now, their upcoming A35Ks are supposed to be 488 seats. That might barely get them to HNL from CDG, not PPT. The currently certified maximum Exit Limit for the A350-1...Jump to post
Thanks, but I can't make sense of that. I would have expected both variants to make full use of all the available wing tank volume to minimise wing bending moment. My impression – eg from analysis on the changes needed for the A359ULR – was that all the additional fuel volume had come from plumbing...Jump to post
I'm curious about the larger center tank. Are you referring to the tank inside the wing box? I had assumed that was the same volume as the A359, just with differences in plumbing and maybe in panel gauge (for strength). Or are you referring to use of ACTs/additional belly tanks? The A350-900 center...Jump to post
If anyone were to throw numbers on to the A350-1000ULR, anyone would have a guess on the MTOW and Range? I would not at all be surprised if the A350-1000ULR is like the A350-900ULR: a) same operating weights (so a 319,000kg MTOW) b) maximizing the available fuel volume (so at least 165,000 liters, ...Jump to post
I think comparing the 777X and A380 both at 10 abreast is an interesting choice. Both are designed around 10-abreast standard configurations. Why bring up a very skewed m2/seat, when the guy specifically said the same seating density ? Trick is you probably can't do that since the cabin dimensions ...Jump to post
Amazing that the 773 continues to trickle in orders despite much more efficient alternatives being available or around the corner. BA must be offering great deals that 25% more fuel efficiency can't make up. Boeing is no doubt offering solid deals, but A350-1000 and 777-9 availability is probably s...Jump to post
If EK for some reason do not firm the 330 / 350 deal, they will owe Airbus and RR a lot of cash instead for the cancelled 380s. Might not be a safe assumption on one's part. EK was the only airline keeping the A380 program alive so EK and Airbus could have written into their sales contracts for the...Jump to post
I don't see the links between the Kansas plane and the Avenger II, looking closely - the Kansas plane doesn't have a straight trailing edge, it looks to be a bit like the B2 Spirit. I ran it through photoshop and used equalize. I didn't do any enhancement of the images, but just going off the image...Jump to post
Stitch wrote:Correct - they have stated their two-class 777-9s would be 449 seats [49J | 391Y] compared to 427 on their 777-300ERs [42J | 385Y].
IslandRob wrote:Math check needed! -ir
I think a big portion of the 777X's will be cancelled as EK contracts. EK would have to contract substantially considering how much smaller a 777-9 is compared to an A380. And if they contract that much, they are more likely to focus on their core city-pairs, which would, IMO, put the A330/A350/(78...Jump to post
I guess a fair bit of the confusion is to what the "anomaly" was. Was it a surge? Compressor stall? Rotor failure? If Boeing and GE are unwilling to fly the plane, that would make it seem like the "anomaly" was serious. All the media reports are pointing to the GE9X as being the ...Jump to post
Stretching reality to believe the GE engine is so fragile NO flight tests can be performed. If GE cannot reliably determine the failure mode, it would be dangerous to send up frames and put them through the rigors of testing. I'm not sure how airframe/engine certification paths work, but there may ...Jump to post
The B-21 concept images looks similar to the B-2 (makes sense as the same company designed both). The Kansas plane looks like the A-12 Avenger II, but not sure they ever actually built a flyable model before the program was cancelled in 1991.Jump to post
777222LR wrote:It's definitely a good looking aircraft. Can we expect the wing flex to more along the lines of the 787 now since the wings are carbon fiber? (Correct me if I'm wrong on that).
(That being said, they have taken the A380 into account with some of the recent and ongoing infrastructure upgrades.) Which ones? First I've heard of this. I have read that the bridge from the South Satellite to the new International Arrivals Facility is set high enough to allow an A380 to pass und...Jump to post
Maybe SEA just to laugh at Boeing? Considering how many Boeing widebodies they have in their fleet and on order, why would they want to laugh at them? As noted, the A380 can operate at SEA, but it would be heavily-impacting to operations and the airport has said that it is not interested in infrast...Jump to post
mcg wrote:Slightly off topic but, is the 789 uses PER - LHR a standard 789, or has it been modified in some way to increase range? Thanks in advance.
Seen as the safest choice, but Boeing obviously forgot the lessons from the original GE90 on the 777, heres a hypothetical for you, would the 777 have been as big a success if they single sourced on the original GE90? I'd argue the lessons from the original GE90 might very well have played a positi...Jump to post
GE asked for and got exclusivity for the 300ER / 200LR program, makes no sense for them NOT to ask for exclusivity on the 777X program, for definitive proof of this we will have to wait a few years. True, but P&W also asked for exclusivity on the LR777 program. Only RR was willing to split the ...Jump to post
Spetsnaz55 wrote:Also I wonder why they say its the first one while 1611 came out a few days ago. This is 1615 pictured
It was widely reported in 2013 that the deal was exclusive. Yes, once Boeing made a decision, the contract was exclusive and that makes sense considering the planned market. But I had not seen anything in the media about GE demanding exclusivity up front as part of their agreement to submit an RFP.Jump to post