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by Stitch
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: First class restrooms - economy class using?
Replies: 3
Views: 197

Re: First class restrooms - economy class using?

It is common in the US, at least, for Economy class passengers in the forward part of the cabin to use the First Class lavatory. This is often due to a service cart blocking access to the aft lavatories, which likely contributes to the Flight Attendants not preventing such access. In my experience, ...

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 25, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 192
Views: 33717

Re: Rumour: 777X First Flight Likely Delayed Due GE9X Issues

The parallel with the 767 is not 100% valid. In the case of the 767, the options were either to carry on its production or taking a risk to loose potential sales (to the A330(F)). If we're honest, the real reason Boeing (and their major suppliers) accepted the 767 going to an ultra-low rate was to ...

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 237
Views: 38267

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

I have to believe that if Boeing confidently felt they could go to 80m (or longer) back when they were doing the initial discussions with carriers they would have because, IMO, the 777-9 needs all the length it can get to add seats to improve it's per-seat economics against the A350-1000.

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 25, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 192
Views: 33717

Re: Rumour: 777X First Flight Likely Delayed Due GE9X Issues

Just so we're all on the same page here: What comes from Japan again? Fuselage and wings for the 777 or 777x? The major structural components for the fuselage and wings for the 777 are built in Japan and Wichita, as are the major structural components for the fuselage of the 777X. The major 777X win...

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New Air Force One Scheme
Replies: 95
Views: 7193

Re: New Air Force One Scheme

Curiously, the current VC-25A (based on a 200 series) has only two of the three windows on the right, and none at all on the left. The Communications Suite is located on the upper deck aft of the cockpit. As noted above, this area is full of (secure and hardened) communications equipment which cove...

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 192
Views: 33717

Re: Rumour: 777X First Flight Likely Delayed Due GE9X Issues

The only reason I can think of is if Boeing want to completely stop the current 777 fuselage and wing production. But then again they are still running the 767 production line. And considering the 777 and 777X are built on separate (if adjoining) FALs, the only real reason to stop building the 777F...

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by Stitch
Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 277
Views: 78838

Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

There are 182 Chinese orders vs 852 for the B738. I have a sinking feeling that the Chinese government may never approve the MAX and use it as a push for COMAC. If China wants to push COMAC, they can force the Chinese flag carriers to order it. They did not need the MAX to be grounded. One of the l...

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by Stitch
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019
Replies: 277
Views: 78838

Re: Boeing 737MAX Delivery/Production Thread - 2019

mwhcvt wrote:
Is there a list of produced frames that are waiting for deliveries to restart? Just wondering how many Boeing have in temporary storage and where


The production rate was temporarily reduced from the 50s to the 40s per month, but there should be a fair number lurking about.

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 465
Views: 126380

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

What I totally don't get is the fact that single or double overwing exits aren't used on large widebodies. A single C-type overwing exit permits 35 pax. A pair of C-type exits permit 65pax. I imagine that a Type A is just more efficient since both are floor-level exits and the Type A allows 110 pas...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?

And as a follow-up, I trust IAG knows what they're doing and I feel it would be arrogant for me to presume I know more than they do about how they run their company. I've stated my case multiple times and if you do not agree, fair enough. I do not agree with a fair number of the cases made here by o...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

A publicly listed company has an obligation to it's board and shareholders to follow due process when committing to any major expenditure. And nobody has offered any direct proof that IAG has not done so. The vast majority of those arguing against this LoI has done so on the basis that "due di...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:44 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: New Air Force One Scheme
Replies: 95
Views: 7193

Re: New Air Force One Scheme

I have to say I thought the new livery looked awful based on the graphics, but on the model I actually think it looks pretty nice. Not mindblowing or anything but not half bad either. Yes, it looks much better on the model. I'd still prefer the current scheme because it is iconic and world-recogniz...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 465
Views: 126380

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

p.s. wandering why it is not selling well I suspect that it is currently seen as too big for the market. This is what really did for the A380 and the 747-8 in my opinion (I do accept both of these were flawed in other ways). The same seems to be happening for the A350-1000 where speculation it is t...

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by Stitch
Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 465
Views: 126380

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

Forgive my ignorance, but I assume there's an option to add an overwing exit to increase the exit capacity to >440? EK already have 77Ws configured to 428 to with the 9 they'd probably want to go above 440 in an equivalent config. The overwing exit has been permanently deleted on the 777-9. Instead...

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by Stitch
Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 465
Views: 126380

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

Still looks more balanced then the A330-300.

(The larger Trents on the A330-900 really help the engine-airframe balance, IMO.)

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by Stitch
Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

Not sure why you are asking me this question. It is Walsh who spoke of spurring competition whilst penning an LOI with a single vendor without an RFP, not me. One could easily ask Mr. Walsh the same as the last time any IAG airline ordered a Boeing narrowbody was decades ago (737 Classic). Since th...

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by Stitch
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

With all due respect, please read the comments attributed to Walsh in this "LOI". He specifically referred to the spurring of competition. Now, if you want to spur competition, you surely would not limit yourself to a single supplier before the "competition" even starts. With al...

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by Stitch
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:40 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/IAG deal

If IAG does not eventually firm this LoI, all it means is that they couldn't come to a final agreement that they were satisfied with. If it was just a ploy by Boeing to generate positive buzz for the MAX, why stop at IAG? Why not get LH and AF/KLM to place "phantom LoI's" as well? A 500+ f...

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by Stitch
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:29 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

But it is weird to have an exclusive deal for such a large order. As a procurement department it is your job to play off suppliers against each other to get the best deal for yourself. It is unlikely that an exclusive negotiation with one supplier gets you the best deal. Any serious airline only &q...

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by Stitch
Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:17 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

Stitch, can you imagine a company handing out a billions of dollars order without putting it to tender, with the excuse of `it was such a great deal there was no point asking for counter bids'? If there are only two (realistic) vendors for that order and you already are buying from one? Yes I can. ...

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by Stitch
Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:47 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

It's about following a proper prices when a company intends to sound billions of dollars. Public companies are obliged to do so. They can negotiate exclusively with Boeing with a price in mind they are willing to pay. If Boeing can meet it, then IAG can agree to work towards a deal. If Boeing canno...

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by Stitch
Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:37 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

Surely the IAG shareholders will want to know why a contract this size was awarded with no RFP? even if the intention was to order the Max anyway, shouldn't you at least dot the Is and cross the Ts? I would like to believe that what they care about is did IAG secure a deal that will grow the airlin...

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by Stitch
Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:52 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

Supposedly, because a long-winded RFP to both manufacturers would have done nothing here and now to boost confidence in the MAX for Boeing and secure a preferential deal on 777X frames for IAG. But if Boeing had to offer IAG such a low price, how does that "boost confidence" in the MAX? W...

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by Stitch
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:57 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

Contrary to all here, I think Airbus' response is genius. They know the order is far from done and that at any time IAG can walk away from the 737MAX. They also know that if they provide a price that is lower than what IAG got from Boeing, IAG will try to and get Boeing to match Airbus' price. If t...

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by Stitch
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:26 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Media: Airbus to challenge IAG, Boeing deal for 200 MAX?
Replies: 123
Views: 15619

Re: Airbus seeks to break Boeing/AIG deal

I do wonder what was pulling the strings behind this order. The fact that Airbus states they didn't even receive an invite to bid leaves one to think was this a PR stunt or was the price so low they knew it would be an insult to ask Airbus to match... If the goal was to diversify part of the group'...

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by Stitch
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

May turn out the deal is for Boeing Capital to lease the 737's to IAG in tranches of say 10. Boeing Capital then on-sells to established leasing companies, and/or creates a secondary market. I know IAG airlines are leasing some of the frames in their respective fleets, but are they being leased dir...

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by Stitch
Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

marcelh wrote:
@Stitch: a “next to nothing” offer from Boeing smells like dumping...


Well it's only dumping if AIG actually firms the order, and since many have made it clear they will not, it's okay. :silly:

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by Stitch
Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019
Replies: 465
Views: 126380

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

MileHFL400 wrote:
Does this mean we ll see first flight soon?


No. Boeing announced they are pushing it back until late Fall to allow GE time to verify the changes they are making to the GE9X and incorporate them on the eight engines assigned to the 777X test fleet.

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by Stitch
Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

Its possible, but I think you agree that this is not a normal IAG order process which is long winded with public announcements of what aircraft it is asking for RFP's from OEM's. If the board gave an authority for an adhoc LOI then it will have been on IAG's terms though obviously Boeing boosters a...

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by Stitch
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 237
Views: 38267

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

No idea on production rate, which presumably includes 777F for the foreseeable future. The current Rate 5 is composed of Rate 3.5 for the LR777 family and Rate 1.5 for the 777X. The 787 family is a profit powerhouse. 2nd wing and landing gear options to support growth versions, would only cause a t...

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by Stitch
Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

But there is something weird about this order, usually an intention to order is announced after a board meeting as it required board approval so this must have been a rush job that certainly implies very keen pricing. The Board may very well have given IAG's executives the authority to enter into a...

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by Stitch
Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

Please also note the total absence of an artist impression, or model aircraft, in BA colours at the 'ceremony'. Being that closely associated with a tarred product was probably a step too far for BA, and may speak volumes of their true intentions. So making an announcement at the one time of year w...

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

Margins on narrowbody aircraft are already rather low, any huge discount here will render the sale unprofitable or onerous. Narrowbody margins are well into the double-digits based on financial reports. Considering the sheer number that Airbus and Boeing pump out, their unit costs are surprisingly ...

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

I'd still go with early delivery and price as a justification. I'll agree with early delivery (especially with the significant cancellation by Jet), In the main thread about this order, the discount rate was rumored to be between 40% (which would arguably be a premium for Boeing) and 50% (which is ...

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: IAG sign LOI for 200 B737 Max
Replies: 329
Views: 38656

Re: IAG sign LOI for 200 B737 Max

UAEflyer wrote:
The rumours here in Paris they got between 40% to 50% discount.


Which is dead-average for a narrowbody. Actually, one could argue they're paying a premium if they only received a 40% discount.

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

So if the MAX hadn't been grounded and was enjoying a successful service life, what would the a.net narrative have been to explain (away) this order?

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:07 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Can the A340-500 do the longest posible flights?
Replies: 29
Views: 2827

Re: Can the A340-500 do the longest posible flights?

Via service bulletin I believe up to 5 additional centre tanks can be installed, each of them are 7200l/5200 kg capacity. That would raise the range to around 12500 nm. No idea if anyone actually installed them in service, there was one A340-4000 floating around at one stage. The A340-8000 (A340-21...

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

Was that a LOI when it was first announced ? It was a commitment, but that is effectively the same as an MoU or an LoI. It was not at the time a firm order: The commitment, valued at up to $18.6 billion at list prices, will be reflected on Boeing's Orders and Deliveries website once it is finalized...

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues
Replies: 192
Views: 33717

Re: Rumour: 777X First Flight Likely Delayed Due GE9X Issues

I now would not be surprised if the 777-8 is shelved I still sorta would... mostly due to the implications for a future freighter, and also depends on what QF does. I wonder how big that (initial) market is. And how long Boeing is willing to continue the current 77F production run. It's not that th...

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by Stitch
Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

I'm kinda surprised they haven't done a paper derate to lower the MTOW of the E2 170/175 below scope. UA and BBD did it with seating capacity to bring the 70 seat CRJ7 down to a 50 seater as the CRJ550. I assume the performance penalty would be too great? it's not like they are really intended for ...

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by Stitch
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:18 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 382
Views: 66795

Re: 787 vs A350 range

thepinkmachine said 25,000kg was the average payload for the QF flights between PER and LHR as he noted that was when the 787-9 generally becomes Fuel Volume Limited at MTOW. He noted westbound ZFWs were in the 157,000kg range with eastbound closer to 154,000kg.

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 237
Views: 38267

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

I've also wondered if some of the 77W sales were attributed to its long range capability rather than capacity. IMO, the 777-300ER sold on it's capacity - passenger and cargo. Using 6000nm as a baseline (which puts most of the world's hubs within distance of each other), the 777-200ER would lift 52,...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 382
Views: 66795

Re: 787 vs A350 range

Thanks, wrong thread though. My models were in the Qantas sunrise thread. This thread has much more, this has real data from real performance databases based on what real aircraft are actually doing in the reality of real life. My mistake. Unfortunately, that thread is being polluted, as well. The ...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread
Replies: 310
Views: 85618

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Boeing News and Orders Thread

Not that surprising, they can’t the MAX currently and the 777X hasn’t flown yet. Do they let the general public into the static commercial exhibits from Airbus and Boeing during the "Open Days"? If so, then they are probably the main reason the OEMs bring them. If not, then it's just to h...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:48 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 382
Views: 66795

Re: 787 vs A350 range

To do a fair comparison we need the same assumption for both planes right? We can't discuss range when Airbus uses "320 or so passengers that each weigh 90kg and each loading 20kg of baggage in the hold " while Boeing uses assumptions closer to real airlines' operation. I believe Airbus u...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Emirates renegotiating 777X order
Replies: 237
Views: 38267

Re: Emirates renegotiating 777X order

(the 777-8 is) basically already done Maybe. Maybe not. When Boeing suspended development of the 777-200LR in 2001, it was only about 10% complete in terms of design work. The 777-300ER was rather further along at that time. 779 is in flight tests. no real money to save You still have to build a 77...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:19 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 382
Views: 66795

Re: 787 vs A350 range

I think most of what you said is true but you still didn't explain why 280t is needed for SIN-EWR if 268t can do 30t over 17 hours. I provided an actual flight plan flown by SQ from Singapore to Newark which showed the block fuel loaded was more than the physical volume of an A350-900 - at any TOW ...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 382
Views: 66795

Re: 787 vs A350 range

So what is exactly the problem of saying "Airbus' range is 1 hour or so too optimistic"? It's not like I am suing Airbus for not achieving the range. In general, nothing. But you're focus of it is disrupting what was a very informative and researched post about the respective real-world r...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 382
Views: 66795

Re: 787 vs A350 range

Agree with you (flipdewaf) on the fuel volume. But if 268t can do 8100 still air SQ doesn't need to certify their A359ULR as 280t MTOW. Except SIN-LAX is not flown in "still air". And this means that the actual distance flown will be greater than the 7,621 nautical miles (nm) of the direc...

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by Stitch
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:32 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 787 vs A350 range
Replies: 382
Views: 66795

Re: 787 vs A350 range

I understand the advertised range numbers to the general public are not the same as the numbers provided to airlines, but still, they are misleading. Considering the general public are not buying these products, what does it matter to them if the numbers are "misleading"? Shouldn't the &q...

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