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by iyerhari
Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Folks - hope everyone is well. I wanted to check with this group how UA BOS/EWR flights are operating? My in-laws need to travel back to BOM and are Indian citizens. UA currently still flies the EWR/BOM route but the flight does not depart until 8:30 pm. Their intended plan to fly is to return back...

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by iyerhari
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Folks - hope everyone is well. I wanted to check with this group how UA BOS/EWR flights are operating? My in-laws need to travel back to BOM and are Indian citizens. UA currently still flies the EWR/BOM route but the flight does not depart until 8:30 pm. Their intended plan to fly is to return back ...

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by iyerhari
Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

BOS July-2020 numbers are out. This is the highest total pax recorded since Apr-2020. Jul-20 Jul-19 Difference Domestic Charter Passenger 55 614 -91.04% Domestic Commuter Passenger 29,373 229,977 -87.23% Domestic Jet Passenger 632,212 2,939,949 -78.50% Total Domestic Passengers 661,640 3,170,540 -79...

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by iyerhari
Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

BOS June-2020 numbers are out. Certainly domestic is carrying the burden in the shoulders with a bad collapse of international. Jun-20 Jun-19 Difference Domestic Charter Passenger Domestic Commuter Passenger 29,762 241,280 -87.66% Domestic Jet Passenger 386,619 2,846,383 -86.42% Total Domestic Passe...

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by iyerhari
Wed Jul 08, 2020 7:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

[quote="airbazar”] Small important detail here: The EU does not have a ban. The EU merely proposed a "ban" but it's up to each individual country to impose whatever restrictions they feel is necessary and so far I have no idea of what country bans whom. It's really a mess right now. E...

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by iyerhari
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Sorry, was i in a coma for a few years? What did I miss? In order to remain competitive against DL? Are you forgetting who is bigger and more profitable at BOS? It's DL who has a lot of work to do in order to catch up to B6. And given the current setback it could be quite a while until DL reaches t...

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by iyerhari
Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Who is EK, KE, and QR gonna fly to the USA? AFAIK, most people (non-Americans) are still banned from entering the USA. It's not quite like that. Manny countries are not on the "banned" list. Notably, all of Asia with the exception of China and Iran. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc...

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by iyerhari
Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Not surprised at the lack of pax at BOS. After all, Massachusetts still has a 14-day quarantine requirement in place for outside visitors and returning residents. That quarantine honestly has ZERO meaning and is completely dependent on the person concerned to ensure he follows through. That being s...

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by iyerhari
Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

BOS May-2020 numbers are out. Total pax May-2020 203,328 Total pax May 2019 3,878,455 AAGR MTM -94.76% YTD total pax 2020: 7,763,017 YTD total pax 2019: 16,407,337 AAGR YTD: -52.7% Detailed stats: Domestic May-20 May-19 % change Domestic Commuter Passenger 15,252 234,105 -93.48% Domestic Jet Passeng...

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by iyerhari
Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Why would ATL & SEA start in August & Sept and BOS is delayed until October when BOS has a much larger O&D to London than either of those markets? Is it because BA has the BOS market locked up right now whereas SEA & ATL have not had BA service in several months and BOS operated con...

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by iyerhari
Sun May 24, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

BOS Apr-2020 numbers. There is honestly no commentary needed. Apr-20 Apr-19 Difference Domestic Charter Passenger Domestic Commuter Passenger 4,101 215,487 -98.10% Domestic Jet Passenger 84,146 2,699,361 -96.88% Total Domestic Passengers 88,247 2,914,848 -96.97% International Bermuda/Bahamas/Caribbe...

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by iyerhari
Sun May 03, 2020 1:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

tphuang wrote:
It looks like they have now cut all the Europe stuff for June.

Thank you. I looked up my itinerary and it still shows on schedule with the LHR change. Probably it takes a day/two to update existing reservations. Thank you.

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by iyerhari
Sat May 02, 2020 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

I had a reservation on DL from BOS-LGW and returning CDG-BOS on June-19. I checked my reservation and the itinerary shows on-schedule. I know everything is up in the air - Where did you get the info on the cancels? I would expect that CDG-BOS would get canceled too. If you can wait a month, they wi...

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by iyerhari
Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/live- ... spartanntp

Implies there is no light at this time at the end of tunnel at this time.
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And when you have news like comes like this: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/live- ... spartanntp

Implies there is no light at this time at the end of tunnel at this time.

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by iyerhari
Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Smaller airports IMO will be extremely hard hit as airlines consolidate services - as-is there is less demand and hopefully when things gradually pick-up slow, it would be the airports like Logan where airlines will focus till operations are stabilized. Business travel has completely collapsed and c...

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by iyerhari
Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

DL by their action seems intent on keeping SEA around. Frankly, if they significantly downsize BOS/RDU/CVG, they can keep SEA around in a slightly reduced capacity. While I agree that DL downsizing BOS is a possibility, DL does have nonstop service out of BOS to some non-DL hub domestic destination...

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by iyerhari
Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

BOS Mar-2020 numbers are out. True to what we all will expect, it's red line all over. YTD Mar-2020 total pax: 7,465,599 YTD Mar-2019 total pax: 8,884,122 AAGR MTD total pax: -16% Mar-2020 pax details: Mar-20 Mar-19 Difference Domestic Charter Passenger 442 1016 -56.50% Domestic Commuter Passenger 1...

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by iyerhari
Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

I had a reservation on DL from BOS-LGW and returning CDG-BOS on June-19. I checked my reservation and the itinerary shows on-schedule. I know everything is up in the air - Where did you get the info on the cancels?

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by iyerhari
Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Everything is a moving target. EK has pushed start of A380 service from 1 June to 1 July. I think at this time it is safe to assume everything is up in the air. I'm sure you may have seen the recent tweet to block all immigration till the situation gets better. We have to wait for the fine-print fr...

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by iyerhari
Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

The amount of foreign students coming into area colleges and universities is going to fall of a cliff especially from PRC but maybe ME and Indian Subcontinent backfill it. However, visas are going to be hard to come by. 2019 international traffic numbers will be the peak for a long time in BOS. Als...

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by iyerhari
Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

BOS Feb-2020 numbers are out. It's still not that bad although March, April and May look to be really bad YTD Feb-2020: 5,831,498 YTD Feb-2019: 5,426,760 AAGR YTD: 7.5% Thanks to domestic, the numbers did not tilt very bad for Feb-2020. Detailed stats: Feb-20 Feb-19 Difference Domestic Charter Passe...

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by iyerhari
Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Holy cannoli, that’s horrible and that’s a massive understatement. They can’t even say it was a comparison against Easter because that was late April last year I have a suspicion it’s only going to get worse for a while. Those monthly numbers are going to be 100% red ink. Very sad, but alas the sta...

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by iyerhari
Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 3/22/2020
Replies: 87
Views: 14925

Re: OAG Changes 3/22/2020: APOCALYPSE

EK whacked SEA, too, but kept BOS at daily (kind of surprised at that). Draconian BA cuts on LHR-BOS as noted, but I thought the single daily would be on something bigger than a 772. I just think there maybe hardly any demand based on future bookings and lack of spot bookings. Enilrea - thank you f...

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by iyerhari
Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

ASA wrote:
Who are flying from those countries now ... US Citizens/Residents coming back?

Flight attendants? Maybe?

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by iyerhari
Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

If they're not Canadian, they won't be allowed back by the sounds of it. Very possible there won't be a great way to get to India in May. Best advice would be for them to be where they are most comfortable. Thank you and tphuang - I asked them to stay back YVR. Not worth the risk and getting stuck ...

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by iyerhari
Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Need a honest guidance please from folks here in the thread. My in-laws are currently at YVR and had intent to travel on WS from YVR-YYZ-BOS on Wed. The plan was to be in BOS until mid-May and then fly to BOM. There are currently no flights banned from CAD to US but the frenzy around the place wante...

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by iyerhari
Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

airbazar - I only wish the part of your post I just quoted (in bold underlined) was true. Weeks before any EU travel ban was put in place I booked a r/t YYZ-BKK on KL because J class was was priced very cheap, and then booked separate AC BOS-YYZ-BOS tickets to position. I flew home from BKK last ni...

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by iyerhari
Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Dieuwer wrote:

How about Ireland?

Gone now - U.K. and Ireland also in travel ban. Domestic travel is being reviewed and have a feeling that also will see cuts.

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by iyerhari
Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Isn't today the last day for all travel minus LHR, DUB from Europe to the US? I did see LH has a scheduled flight today and tomorrow stands canceled.

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by iyerhari
Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Well, that asks an interesting question, according to the policy, travel from Europe is banned for Foreign nationals of the Schengen zone countries (the 26), but does that prevent someone from say Germany, flying to Turkey, hopping a TK flight from IST and landing in BOS? Well, that is a very good ...

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by iyerhari
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Globe article and pretty much sums what you have mentioned in the stats. The picture is Terminal B and I have rarely ever seen it being completely empty unless I am coming out late night. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/10/metro/logan-traffic-way-down-corona-fears-spread/ It will be interesting ...

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by iyerhari
Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

I suspect some of them will get parked in the sun, only so much you can do with such a fleet when demand in general is softening, it's easy to redeploy when it's just China for example as the services are somewhat limited over all for the likes of DL, but as it spreads, much tougher. You see why LH...

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by iyerhari
Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/290176/selected-foreign-carriers-italy-march-2020-service-update-as-of-09mar20-1100gmt/ DL have cancelled ATL-FCO and DTL-FCO through 4/30. Something tells me that when they roll the schedule to May and it's still an issue BOS-FCO is likely to befal...

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by iyerhari
Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 3/8/2020:AA Drops PHX-PIT/TPA,CHAPHL,DFWOAK Adds ORDHNL;DL Drops KIXSEA;UA Drops IAHCAK,FLLSFO,IAHYEG,MSYSFO
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Re: OAG Changes 3/8/2020:AA Drops PHX-PIT/TPA,CHAPHL,DFWOAK Adds ORDHNL;DL Drops KIXSEA;UA Drops IAHCAK,FLLSFO,IAHYEG,MS

*AA BNA-JFK JUN 2>1.1[2] JUL 2>1.0[2] AUG 2>1.5[2] *AA BOS-JFK JUN 6>3[1.0] JUL 6>3[0.6] AUG 6>4[0.5] *AA BWI-JFK JUN 5>1.9[1.0] JUL 5>2.0[1.0] AUG 5>3[1.0] *AA CLE-JFK JUN 1.8>0[1.0] JUL 2>0[1.0] AUG 2>0.9[1.0] *AA CMH-JFK JUN 1.9>1.0[1.0] JUL 2>1.0[1.0] AUG 2>1.5[1.0] *AA DCA-JFK JUN 4>3[0.6] JUL...

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by iyerhari
Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wow! Great news. Thank you for sharing. Finally - DL restarts BOS-MEM! I used to take the MEM flight when it was still a hub in 2008 and have good memories.

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by iyerhari
Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Just had some time so did a quick check to see how many states + territories that BOS have a direct flight to. If a state has a seasonal flight such as Montana OR even if a single commercial flight exists in that state (e.g. NH), I counted the state as YES. Exceptions being CVG which is counted unde...

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by iyerhari
Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Well well well, pretty darn good set of results, sad they didn't quite make 3m, but 8.5% uplift over 19 is impressive. Domestic - Jet - Record January, also better than any February and better than any March up to March 2015. Commuter - DL flying at the double, record January, just beating out Jan ...

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by iyerhari
Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

ICN-BOS will likely be suspended very soon. DL is suspending or reducing flights to ICN from all hubs As per enilrea's weekly OAG email, there is only a reduction of frequency. I did see DL has reduced ATL and MSP. Is there more to this? Delta’s suspending MSP-ICN and reducing SEA/DTW/ATL-ICN. Kore...

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by iyerhari
Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

AvGeekBOS wrote:
ICN-BOS will likely be suspended very soon. DL is suspending or reducing flights to ICN from all hubs

As per enilrea's weekly OAG email, there is only a reduction of frequency. I did see DL has reduced ATL and MSP. Is there more to this?

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by iyerhari
Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

BOS Jan-2020 nos. are finally out. Total airport pax Jan-2020: 2,940,985 Total airport pax Jan-2019: 2,710,036 MTM AAGR: 8.52% (thank you domestic Logan! Please add few more destinations! ;)) Total international pax: 579,541 Total international pax 2019: 521,356 International pax as a % of domestic:...

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by iyerhari
Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Concorde: why no LHR-BOS service?
Replies: 35
Views: 7146

Re: Concorde: why no LHR-BOS service?

Back when? BOS certainly had non-stops to London, Paris and Frankfurt in 1980. In 1983, JFK had much more non-stop service to Europe, compared to BOS. JFK had nonstop service to: PRG, REK, FCO, Malaga, MXP, MUC, OSL, CDG, ORY, FRA, GVA, HEL, LGW, LHR, MAD, AMS, ATH, Belgrade, BRU, CPH, DUS, SNN, AR...

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by iyerhari
Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

It's not too bad - we did BOS-JFK - FCO (don't ask - long story) and it was fine on the way there. We landed at T2 and took the jitney to T4 with no drama. On the way back, T4 customs can be a nightmare - I have Global Entry but the corridors get so jammed you can't even get to the GLobal Entry que...

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by iyerhari
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

General question for the DL savants who know about JFK. I am planning to take my family: BOS-JFK-BOM with BOM being the main destination. Note that I have a 4.5 year old kid who will be about 5.3 years when he travels to BOM. I wanted to know how easy is the transfer between domestic to internationa...

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by iyerhari
Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DOT: Best/Worst U.S. Airports On Time Performance for 2019
Replies: 41
Views: 4485

Re: DOT: Best/Worst U.S. Airports On Time Performance for 2019

Note that DL also has hubs in BOS, LGA Eh, LGA has been bad for pretty much forever. At least it's not as bad as EWR. EWR has significantly more flights than LGA - unfortunately this thread is going to become another B6 bashing on how bad OTP is. I think if you have hubs in the coast areas which ar...

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by iyerhari
Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DOT: Best/Worst U.S. Airports On Time Performance for 2019
Replies: 41
Views: 4485

Re: DOT: Best/Worst U.S. Airports On Time Performance for 2019

I take BOS almost every week and barring few delays that can happen to anyone, it is possible with any airport. This winter has also been very mild in the East Coast resulting in fewer delays. Maybe I am just attuned to it.

Note that DL also has hubs in BOS, LGA :)

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by iyerhari
Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Are you talking about AA, UA, or BOS overall in term of "few domestic routes" ? AA and UA have had recent history of cornerstone hub/strategy. Its been said before, geography hurts BOS domestically. A route like OMA, though having a decent business component, is too long and thin without ...

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by iyerhari
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Here's one more thing to think about: In the wake of AA announcing LHR-SEA and SEA-BLR, all of sudden a United LHR-BOS route doesn't sound all that crazy :) still a stretch because the options just don't exist out of Boston like they do for AA/AS from Seattle. Now if UA announced a close partnershi...

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by iyerhari
Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

My intent was not regarding BLR alone but India in general. FYI, finance and investment banking capital in India is not BLR, HYD or DEL - it is BOM.. Their IT departments are in Bangalore. I know this because I work for one of them and as a lowly IT guy I still get to travel in business class ;) St...

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by iyerhari
Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

You know they regret bailing out of JFK to go to EWR, somehow tying up with B6 (NOT a Merger please!), would indirectly give them access back to that market, but would that still cause anti-trust issues if it was a codeshare? But would be worth paying so much to get hold of some JFK slots? UA has a...

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by iyerhari
Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020
Replies: 985
Views: 133083

Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

ATL would be the absolute worst place for a flight to BLR, IMO. I think the 3 biggest markets are probably SFO, SEA, and BOS which would imply a significant detour for the majority of the passengers. While SEA has the tech industry, BOS has the financial industry which actually pays for business cl...

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