PDX Portland International Airport August 2019 traffic Disappointing numbers for August and for the year so far. Topping 20 million this year could be in jeopardy. Domestic. 1,851,699. -1.7% International. 100,855. +0.2% Total. 1,952,554. -1.6% Year-to-date: Domestic. 12,765,501. -0.1% Internationa...Jump to post
Congrats to AUS and KL! I'm a bit surprised it isn't DL, but they don't do many 3x weekly TATL flights, so perhaps KL is better suited to operate at a lower frequency. KLM is better suited for lower frequency operations to DL outstations. DL would have to rotate an aircraft through AMS, which would...Jump to post
OAG 9/15: https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1431329 AS MCI-PDX MAR 0.2>0.6 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0.7>1.0[0.5] AS MFR-SEA JAN 3>4 FEB 3>4 AS ORD-PDX MAR 1.0>1.4[1.0] APR 1.0>2[1.0] MAY 1.3>2.0[1.0] *FI KEF-PDX NOV 0.4>0[0.0] DEC 0.4>0 SY HNL-PDX DEC 0.8>0.5[0.6] WN LAX-P...Jump to post
With UA a shell of its former self at PDX, it's nice to see them stepping in so much in secondary OR markets. I was browsing a EUG timetable the other day and was surprised to see how much mainline goes that way. Agreed. Mainline to MFR and EUG, and with the newer ORD-EUG/RDM service, they continue...Jump to post
Dual HA 332’s into PDX tonight, as both HNL and OGG flights upgauged. First time? HNL is often upgauged, but not so much for OGG. Both scheduled 321 tomorrow. I flew the OGG flights plenty when they were 763’s. Been a while since HA had WB’s on both routes.Jump to post
That's what we want to see actually. High fares, mostly full planes. That allows Delta to justify the service and expand it in the future. $3500 r/t is steep, but, close in, only non-stop to London? Probably worth saving $1500 to avoid a connection or longer route. $10k for D1 is tough. I paid ~$5....Jump to post
DL has already tried two very tough markets from LHR when the JV with VS were enacted in 2014 and those were EWR and PHL. They also tried LHR-MIA on a 764 back in like 2011 and that failed. I think DL is best staying from hubs to LHR right now. AA operates RDU-LHR and should they'd ever drop that I...Jump to post
Congrats to PDX being named best airport for the 7th straight time by Travel + Leisure Magazine! Looks like JD Power has them ranked 3rd this year. Can't win them all. I also like that in 2021 (or whenever it is completed), on the B concourse, an all day southern food restaurant called Screen Door w...Jump to post
So, AC to YYZ ends up only being 2.5 months...even with their MAX issues, that is super short. Maybe the 319 was too much plane. AS going more than 1X daily to MCO, and adding an additional frequency to PSP and SAN is interesting. YYZ is more like 4 months Not good at all anyway. Per OAG thread the...Jump to post
I hadn't noticed if this topic had its' own thread elsewhere. Frontier Airlines announced n/s PDX-LAS flights starting November 14, 2019. Looks like 2 flights/week. https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/2019/06/25/frontier-airlines-expansion-9-new-nonstop-routes-las-vegas-cleveland/15580920...Jump to post
Honestly, I would argue DL doesn't give a sh!t about PDX. Sure they probably make a little bonus cash & yes, they have history at PDX too but they would much rather allocate their resources elsewhere. Their PDX network is just enough to fend off/keep competition in check. PDX helps them either ...Jump to post
The contraction at PDX widened in April. First negative number for domestic I can remember. Frontier dropped from 122 total flights to 66. JetBlue dropped from 180 flights to 120. Southwest cut from 2,412 flights to 2,192. Spirit reduced flights from 146 to 120. Alaska (excluding Horizon) traffic w...Jump to post
I think the HND add is great, but I can’t help but think about the gaping hole in Asian bound traffic. With no connections in Tokyo through Haneda, all of that traffic is funneled through SEA, SFO, etc. Even at less than daily, a carrier like KE or HU should work decently without negatively impacti...Jump to post
Great news on DLs PDX-HND award. While DL may try and time a flight from SLC to provide some additional connections, the expectation is clearly to concentrate mostly on OD between Portland/Tokyo. What I will find interesting going forward is whether either of the two Japanese carriers will challeng...Jump to post
Looks like DL anticipated the allocation on HND.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-12may19/.
From the DL thread.
^^^ With a hub in SEA they are trying to make profitable... as much as I wish, I doubt they will flow traffic via PDX. Someone noted it was the last flight of the day to Tokyo for them, so, anything is possible. But I assume it will survive on O&D only and with Nike and some others filling up t...Jump to post
Growth at PDX has stalled. In March 2019 total passenger traffic was up a paltry 1.1%. The lack of commitment from ULCCs and absence of new nonstops to fill unserved routes is taking its toll. Fewer people are willing to take 8-hour connecting flights to and from unserved or underserved (seasonal o...Jump to post
Interesting tidbit in this article about AA and LATAM JV: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/american-and-latam-tout-new-routes-in-case-for-joint-457245/ American and LATAM, in addition to a stronger competitive position, say the joint venture will allow them to "increase frequencies, ...Jump to post
Interesting Delta presence scheduled for Sunday March 31, 2019. Of note, the PDX-AMS flight now transitions to an Airbus A330-300. Both DL179 (AMS-PDX) and DL178 (PDX-AMS) witness the seasonal change to the A330-300. Also of note DL607 (ATL-PDX) and DL608 (PDX-ATL) are shown as operating with a B76...Jump to post
UA 757-200 just landed at PDX (#1875 SFO-PDX) Can't remember the last time I saw one at PDX.... only 737's these days https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL1875/history/20190325/1543Z/KSFO/KPDX Gosh, I miss those days of 757's all over the place at PDX. I remember a time, I want to say 2002/2003, ...Jump to post
‘CDG is a fantasy IMO.’ Agreed. DL is not going to want to give up seats on the daily AMS, and now seasonal daily LHR. CDG plays basically the same function as AMS. Non DL hubs usually are afforded one or the other. If there was as much O&D as there is to LHR, maybe, just don’t see this in the n...Jump to post
OAG AA LAX-RDM JUN 1.1>1.7[1.0] DL HNL-PDX DEC 0.4>0[0.4] Y4 GDL-PDX NOV 0>0.9[0.6] DEC 0>0.9[0.7] Appears that DL is doing away with the Winter HNL flight. Wonder if 4 carriers on PDX-HNL was too much. Not really, when you consider they have basically gone year round now, with either FRI or SAT de...Jump to post
JL would be the more logical choice, given the AS route network that could support it on the PDX end. That said, JL is only just restarting their SEA flight, and already serves SFO and LAX on the west coast, and maybe even SAN. Uh, yeah, maybe. JL has flown daily nonstop SAN-NRT since Dec 2012 (exc...Jump to post
Going back to the possibility of DL not getting the PDX-HND slot (and possible, eventual cancellation). Many correctly state JL would be perfect with the AS connection on one end. But looking a little deeper, with NH being pretty dominant in Japan right now, NH might be the eventual one to fill the ...Jump to post
FA9295 and jbpdx, thought I'd copy in AA's arguments against DL's PDX-HND here: Full PDF available for download here: https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=DOT-OST-2019-0014-0016 Delta’s Portland and Honolulu Proposals, If Granted, Will Squander Scarce Haneda Slot-Pairs While Preventing Competitio...Jump to post
sxf24 wrote:Midwestindy wrote:
Well, Seattle had a HND flight and we all know how that worked out.
FA9295...‘Some would argue that this will take away from passengers connecting to their SEA-HND flight, but if that were the case, then I don't think Delta would be proposing PDX-HND at all.’ DL proposed it because they are closing NRT, and want/need to retain PDX-TYO, be it contracts, revenue, infr...Jump to post
Kind of odd to think there will be that much more traffic. Moving up to a 330, going full daily when it is not daily part of the year, and no connections on the HND side. Can DL just romanticize it to push their agenda? Can they say they will do this, yet end up keeping a 763 on the route, and go le...Jump to post
Yeah, I think the routes from HIO right now are just to IWA and SJC. Several times a day in fact: SJC: https://flightaware.com/live/findflight?origin=KHIO&destination=KSJC - Yesterday was at 6x, and today was at 4x. IWA: https://flightaware.com/live/findflight?origin=KHIO&destination=KIWA -...Jump to post
What are the numbers like between the 738/9 and the A321neo’s between the west coast and Hawaii? Did HA buy them as much for commonality, or are the numbers that much better for the 321 on those routes? Will AS deploy them more on the Hawaiian routes as they arrive on property?Jump to post
I wouldn't be surprised to see PDX-MEX eventually return, maybe on Volaris or possibly AM seasonally or less than daily. AM handled 84,057 passengers in 2018 at PDX. My money would be on Volaris. Yes, if this route returns it'll definitely be on Volaris. However, I think if the port wants this rout...Jump to post
Loved the long gone days of flying privately out of Eagle Aviation, and having lunch/dinner at Richenbackers while watching ramp/arrival/departure activity below. Looks like the master plan includes more parking whatever is decided. The cramped area for the Intel flights is terrible. Remember multip...Jump to post
metaldirtnskin wrote:Local paper just posted some pics from EUG circa 1967:
https://www.registerguard.com/photogall ... 09999/PH/1
This is great news for PDX! The Port recently published an article regarding holiday travels and they project the numbers to be at 19.9 million passengers for 2018. (almost to 20!!) I have it coming up about 50,000 short. If JetBlue hadn’t cut the second LGB flight and Icelandair hadn’t ended the s...Jump to post
UA announced ORD-EUG/RDM today, on E175 equipment. EUG is year-round, RDM is seasonal, and both will be daily and will start on June 6, 2019. https://thepointsguy.com/news/united-ord-iah-regional-flights/ Excellent news for both airports! The Eugene/Springfield area continues to experience positive...Jump to post
'UA would place a large order for more 727-200s shortly after that date, but why did UA favor the shorter -100 model so much? Was the three-holer more valuable to their fleet operations than twin jets like the 737-200 (which UA operated in much smaller quantity)?' Being that the -100 was released ab...Jump to post
PlanesNTrains wrote:n7371f wrote:There is risk for AS entering PAE & you're seeing an attempt to mitigate "eating its own" with the frequency cuts to SEA from new PAE markets.
In other words, reallocating capacity.
Looks like WN restarts PDX-MCI on 8 June but who knows for how long. The inconsistency on this route by Southwest and Alaska is a joke. They should just decide who gets the route and keep it year round, like they seem to have done with PDX-STL. No, it isn’t a joke. If it doesn’t print money, they o...Jump to post
Nice picture history of PDX from O-live today. Definitely worth a look. Can't believe that I can remember some of the old terminal. https://www.oregonlive.com/expo/life-and-culture/erry-2018/11/6ff8af272e4589/holiday-travel-flashback-how-p.html. Thanks for that share, Wow the milk run routes are aw...Jump to post
Nice picture history of PDX from O-live today. Definitely worth a look. Can't believe that I can remember some of the old terminal. https://www.oregonlive.com/expo/life-an ... how-p.html.Jump to post