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by 5427247845
Tue Jun 20, 2023 7:41 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search
Replies: 357
Views: 30790

Re: Titanic tourist sub goes missing sparking search

I have been reading the BBC feed and it is not looking good. Apparently they have about enough air for 40 hours but have not located Titan yet. Once they find it they still need to raise it. Salvaging even a small sub like the Titan from those depths is a huge undertaking. The USCG statements also ...

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by 5427247845
Tue Jun 20, 2023 10:27 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Would it be so difficult to install launch rails for AIM-9X and ASRAAM on ground vehicles, or on Mi-8, or whatever, to cover the lead formations? Ukraine were given Avenger Systems. https://abcnews.go.com/International/us-avenger-important-boost-ukrainian-air-defense-top/story?id=99405568 And Sea S...

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by 5427247845
Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:59 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

Also it was the 100th F1 victory for Red Bull Racing and the 41st of VER.

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by 5427247845
Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:57 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

This weekend was the GP of Canada at Montreal. Qualifying was fun with the rain, a small window in Q2 when the track was just good enough for the slicks and Q3 with worsening conditions. ALB (Q2) and HUL(Q3) were the dark horses, while VER, ALO and HAM showed why they are world champions - they are ...

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by 5427247845
Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:37 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

GDB posted this link in the Military forum, it fits right in with this current discussion of ATACMS, Russia using its helicopters as aerial arty and Ukraine options to deal with the situation. It should also be noted that Russia switched its mode of helicopter deployment due to high losses. https:/...

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by 5427247845
Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:10 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

This move by Congress is political. Our Congress can and will do things that go against the preference of the military commanders or the President. That’s how democracies work. True, but in the US, it is the Congress that has the responsibility of declaring war. So having Congress supporting ATACM ...

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:24 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Wow, your points against the ATACMS didn’t age well, My point as against ATACMs are logistics and technical. A bit weird, considering the much more sophisticated system (F16) you were comparing with. Not to mention the earlier discussion about the M1 Abrams, which was also “too sophisticated” for U...

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:34 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Congress is working the defense bill tp get ATACMS to Ukraine. The bill instructs the defense secretary to brief Congress on the process of procurement and transfer of ATACMS to Ukraine by Dec. 31, 2023. https://kyivindependent.com/us-lawmakers-submit-bill-to-purchase-atacms-for-ukraine/ bt Wow, yo...

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 17, 2023 6:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1099
Views: 289748

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2023

Things can easily change. Especially when he literally just mentioned the 779. AF has a fleet of over 40 77Ws alone and KLM also has some aircraft at a very slot restricted AMS airport. The 779 has a clear place in this group in my eyes. Things can also easily NOT Change. AF is replacing the 772 wi...

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by 5427247845
Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1099
Views: 289748

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2023

There are still 6 B78X's under construction/on order for KL at the moment, with a little reshuffling within the current fleet it should cover some of the Airbus capacity I believe Is there still the possibilty to change these to be delivered KLM 787-10's to the 787-10 IGW variant, with an increased...

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by 5427247845
Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2023
Replies: 1099
Views: 289748

Re: Air France-KLM News and Discussion - 2023

However, I think that Airbus A330-900neo still fits in the KLM fleet as a replacement for Airbus A330s. Boeing 777-9/Boeing 787-9/10/A330-900neo/A350-900/1000 that could really be a KLM ICA fleet. Or would they rather have an entire Airbus fleet for long-haul flights? KLM wanted an all Boeing (777/...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:28 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Also agree. But if you look at it closely, how they spend it is another issue. They would rather spend that money buying EU weapons to send to Ukraine (or already weapons in EU inventory) than buying weapons from the US to send to Ukraine. My argument with respect to Storm Shadow vs ATACM is more o...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:19 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

@MedvedevRussiaE Based on the proof of western countries’ complicity in blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines, we have none, not even moral limitations left to refrain from destroying our enemies’ undersea communications cables Source: https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1668908185229426688?c...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:16 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Zelensky HAS the Leopards and will getting some more. He has also asked for a long time for F16s (much more available than the Swedish Gripen) which the Europeans were willing to deliver, even before the US gave the go ahead… So the reason why the Europeans did not deliver the F-16's is.......... E...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:42 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

In my opinion it is a deflection, suddenly the ATACMS is the one and only option to provide Ukraine with long-range fires. “Deflection” and “suddenly”? IIRC Zelensky is asking for those systems “for some time”. Also I haven’t claimed the ATACAMS is the only option - the Storm Shadow proves it alrea...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:16 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

I see this is another subject we aren’t allowed to talk about, because it’s getting too inconvenient. In my opinion it is a deflection, suddenly the ATACMS is the one and only option to provide Ukraine with long-range fires. “Deflection” and “suddenly”? IIRC Zelensky is asking for those systems “fo...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:56 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

And if money is the issue, deliver the ATACAMS to Ukraine and send the bill to the EU The EU member would have to agree to it. Wonder why they have not done that? The US not giving permission? That has not stopped the call for F-16s. So if that is so, then the EU is also culpable in not providing A...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 2:44 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

It seems you are just looking for excuses not to deliver the ATACAMS to be useful during this counterattack. The same we saw during the discussions about the inability to deliver some A1M1 Abrams in time…. As Europe has a military industrial complex that is as large or larger than the USA, why is t...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 1:33 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

ATACAMS are very helpful now to mitigate the lack of airplanes which will only come at the end of this year. ATACMS can clean up Russian airbases and other military strongholds in southern Ukraine which are out of reach of the HIMARS. I believe the GLSDB was supposed to do those functions. Unfortun...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 12:32 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

discord in senior Russian ranks, not just from Wagner, which Putin going tactical nuclear, much less strategic would make suddenly a lot worse. If rumor is true that Putin is so isolated that bad news is not getting to him, then who's to say if anything that he may command will be executed. So even...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:08 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

An interesting read from a US general (ret.) about why Putin will use a nuclear weapon. https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/why-putin-will-use-nuclear-weapons-ukraine#:~:text=He%20already%20has%20tactical%20reasons,he%20is%20not%20a%20bluffer. With the destruction of the Kakhova dam Russia has al...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:49 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

According to Twitter/Reuters, Belarus has started taking delivery of Russian tactical nuclear weapons. https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1668872363981545472?s=46&t=z6o_jIzvoPuAMcZHFpBuSA I hope we’re not getting close to a new, horrifying phase of this war. Why should it? Possibly using them i...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:48 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

This video is posted on a forum dominated by supporters of the Russian invasion. It gives a sobering view of the fallback strategy reportedly being used by Russia to maximise the cost in men and materiel of advances by the armed forces of Ukraine. https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/russia-ukrain...

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by 5427247845
Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:30 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1668 ... McZHFpBuSA

I hope we’re not getting close to a new, horrifying phase of this war.


Why should it?
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dampfnudel wrote:
According to Twitter/Reuters, Belarus has started taking delivery of Russian tactical nuclear weapons.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1668 ... McZHFpBuSA

I hope we’re not getting close to a new, horrifying phase of this war.


Why should it?

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by 5427247845
Tue Jun 13, 2023 5:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Messi Joins Inter Miami of MLS
Replies: 21
Views: 2143

Re: Messi Joins Inter Miami of MLS

Kiwirob wrote:
petertenthije wrote:
Kiwirob wrote:
Its only 2 years. Which would be a safer country for kids KSA or Miami?

Why go to a place you'd hate if you don't have to? He has enough "Fuck-you money" to do as he pleases.


I would even move to the Netherlands for 1b.


You don’t. We’ll tax you to death….

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by 5427247845
Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:23 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Messi Joins Inter Miami of MLS
Replies: 21
Views: 2143

Re: Messi Joins Inter Miami of MLS

I thought the Saudi thing was a done deal. I guess someone convinced him that it wouldn't be good for his image, and he doesn't need the money that much. IIRC, according to a Dutch news site Mrs. Messi didn’t want to live in the Middle East. For 1b she could slum it for two years. She didn’t want t...

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:16 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

it’s clear who has to gain and who has to lose. It’s a simple answer. Sometimes gauging culpability through potential gain or losses can be deceiving. But seeing how one side spend precious drone resources to bring life saving supplies to the flood victims while the other side spend precious resour...

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:14 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Theoretically you’re right, but the Russians were able to keep Crimea “afloat” without the Dnipro water resources. The long term consequences for Ukraine are very negative - especially for the long term. Also I can’t see the short term gains for Ukraine to blow the dam. Estimates are it will cost 3...

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:30 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

There’s clear reasons why either side could have done this and no simple answer. If it flies like a duck, looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it’s probably a duck. Russia is downplaying it as “nothing to see here” and knowing their agenda in regard to Ukraine, it’s clear who has to gain and wh...

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 10, 2023 8:05 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

That sounds a lot like rather desperate "both-sides"-ism which has no actual base in the facts. :checkmark: Fact is the dam not only supply water for Crimea, it also supply water for irrigation and drinking water for many towns and cities south of the river. Ukraine would be foolish to de...

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by 5427247845
Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:02 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

During a war, every day is marked by decisions to sacrifice a few in the name of success for others. This is already the case in peacetime, but it becomes more visible during war. The Ukrainians knew that the dam would burst if they attacked the left bank in this area. If they wanted to keep this o...

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by 5427247845
Fri Jun 09, 2023 3:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

The world may be reluctant to blame Russia because it's not yet 120% clear who actually destroyed the dam. Since the flooding could be a devastating Russian counter-attack as part of a Ukrainian landing on the left bank, some people might suspect that the Ukrainians preemptively destroyed the dam b...

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by 5427247845
Fri Jun 09, 2023 3:48 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

The world may be reluctant to blame Russia because it's not yet 120% clear who actually destroyed the dam. Since the flooding could be a devastating Russian counter-attack as part of a Ukrainian landing on the left bank, some people might suspect that the Ukrainians preemptively destroyed the dam b...

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by 5427247845
Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:29 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

I’m also stunned by the absolute lack of real condemnation- even by the Western world. It’s nothing more than the usual blabla, while this is a huge escalation. Let Russia get away with it and not defining some red lines (IMHO this should have been one) will only lead to further Russian escalation. ...

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by 5427247845
Fri Jun 09, 2023 12:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

United Nations will send personnel to occupied flooded areas to help evacuate. But on condition that Russia will guarantee safety of the personnel. I wonder what nations would send in personnel. https://kyivindependent.com/un-agrees-to-help-evacuate-occupied-parts-of-kherson-oblast/ Possibly China ...

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by 5427247845
Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:55 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Messi Joins Inter Miami of MLS
Replies: 21
Views: 2143

Re: Messi Joins Inter Miami of MLS

Aesma wrote:
I thought the Saudi thing was a done deal. I guess someone convinced him that it wouldn't be good for his image, and he doesn't need the money that much.


IIRC, according to a Dutch news site Mrs. Messi didn’t want to live in the Middle East.

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by 5427247845
Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:52 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

The War Zone is having an update that Ukraine is advancing, but are taking heavy casualties even loosing a Leopard 2 tank. The update say it is to be expected this early in the offense. From the article it says: Amidst a highly complex operational picture, heavy fighting continues along multiple se...

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by 5427247845
Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:41 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

Since Russia's advances are out of the question, it has to be against Ukraine. On the other hand it's bad for Russian occupied Crimea to lose its water source again. Possibly the Russians think they will lose Crimea sooner or later. so damaging as much as possible are well known Russian tactics - a...

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by 5427247845
Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:56 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread
Replies: 18096
Views: 1507399

Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine - *Discussion* Thread

What about the cooling of the Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Plant? It’s upstream of the blown dam and I would be surprised the cooling facilities were designed for this kind of event.

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by 5427247845
Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Riyadh Air reveals first of 2 livery designs
Replies: 59
Views: 10822

Re: Riyadh Air reveals first of 2 livery designs

IMHO it’s just too much and flashy. It screams “bad taste” all over the place and gives the impression they had to go “all in” to distinguish themselves somehow from the other ME airlines.

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by 5427247845
Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:13 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

By summer 2023 RB is going to stop spending on this car and focus on next years car. That will allow teams to catchup by end of the year. But RB will just appear with another spaceship at the start of 2024 because they were able to invest 6-8 months on their new car… You can’t beat the laws of phys...

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by 5427247845
Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:09 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

VER with an easy victory, start was ok, the tire poker did not go punished but it was close, afterwards the RB was just too good. In total he had an average race though, not very convincing, lots of track limit violations and it looked more lucky that he got the fasted lap, even though he had a way...

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by 5427247845
Mon Jun 05, 2023 12:36 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

I know there were action down the grid, but boy was the race a borefest. RBR has the best design and driver from the start of the season. The teams behind aren’t able to closing in (Aston Martin/Ferrari) or must come from even further away (Mercedes). Only Mercedes have made a step forward in race ...

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by 5427247845
Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:38 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

I know there were action down the grid, but boy was the race a borefest. RBR has the best design and driver from the start of the season. The teams behind aren’t able to closing in (Aston Martin/Ferrari) or must come from even further away (Mercedes). Only Mercedes have made a step forward in race ...

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by 5427247845
Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:22 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

On to Spain qualifying which was another banger. Max will run away with this win provided nothing goes wrong. Am I the only one who really likes this track. I really liked the 2021 and 2022 races and without the chicane it will really separate the men from the boys. We could see some accidents as i...

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:21 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

Exactly this :checkmark: https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-explains-monaco-gp-refusal/ Someone should have asked him if he was in such a great rhythm why he let Lewis keep fastest lap... The reason no-one asked is because it would have been an embarrassingly stupid question. Don’t be too...

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:15 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

Revelation wrote:
marcelh wrote:
This just shows your ignorance… :rotfl:

Yeah, silly me thinking it was important to Max to be the fastest.

Yep, silly you.

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:58 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

Exactly this :checkmark: https://www.planetf1.com/news/max-verstappen-explains-monaco-gp-refusal/ It had even ‘GP’ asking his driver why he wasn’t slowing down. “My engineer asked me the same thing but it’s more when you’re on a rhythm,” he said when the question was put to him in the post-race pre...

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by 5427247845
Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:19 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

He had to push it in qualifying but not in the final laps of the race. No one is arguing that his final lap wasn't spectacular. I watched the race twice and on a damp track with a dry racing line he was going full out with a 27 second lead. He was needlessly pushing when he didn't have to. I think ...

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by 5427247845
Wed May 31, 2023 10:41 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 668
Views: 59461

Re: 2023 F1 Season News and Discussion Thread

Anyway, Monaco was great with another masterclass from Max. One of the best qualifying sessions in F1 history with a brilliant last sector by Max. On Sunday he mastered all challenges, truly a joy to watch. Excellent results also for Alonso and a very 'appy Ocon. Verstappen himself said he was luck...

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