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by AirFiero
Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Demise of WN in the PNW
Replies: 40
Views: 6340

Re: Demise of WN in the PNW

I’d dispute the theory that half of Hawaii passengers are on miles. The airlines have total control over how many seats are available for redemption. Now WN on the other hand supposedly does NOT limit the number of redemptions per flight. They could be looking at their new Hawaii flights being a hu...

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by AirFiero
Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Demise of WN in the PNW
Replies: 40
Views: 6340

Re: Demise of WN in the PNW

I’d dispute the theory that half of Hawaii passengers are on miles. The airlines have total control over how many seats are available for redemption. Now WN on the other hand supposedly does NOT limit the number of redemptions per flight. They could be looking at their new Hawaii flights being a hu...

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by AirFiero
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Demise of WN in the PNW
Replies: 40
Views: 6340

Re: Demise of WN in the PNW

Makes me wonder if AS is going to put a damp rag on WN's Hawaii ambitions. AS has a lower CASM on the -900ER's than anything WN owns. But WN isn't flying from PacNW to Hawaii. AS 739 seats 178, WN 738 seats 175. AS operates many 738s to the islands as well. Not sure that is a big factor, WN is goin...

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by AirFiero
Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS launches SEA-PIT
Replies: 33
Views: 3788

Re: AS launches SEA-PIT

Interesting approach. Cut newly acquired SFO hub, double down on SEA. Less risk short term. Lot more risky long term as DL bears down and AS squanders the VX footprint. Time will tell if the moves they are making now are the right ones. Again makes you wonder why they bothered buying VX. Where have...

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by AirFiero
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Upcoming WN schedule extension on 8/30
Replies: 177
Views: 14643

Re: Upcoming WN schedule extension on 8/30

Uh, 9/27 until 11/15 is just shy of 3 weeks, not a month and a half.. There's a whole month in there called October. HAHAH UGH! Stupid me. Yeah, and it is even my favorite month. I am used to the metric year, with only 10 months. October and March are omitted. Cripes, Anyway, prob due to HI flying....

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by AirFiero
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/2/2018:AA/AS/DL/UA/WN
Replies: 79
Views: 10583

Re: OAG Changes 9/2/2018:AA/AS/DL/UA/WN

enilria wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
Does AS have much room to expand at SFO in the next year or two?

With as much as they have cut they should have a gate or more available.


The SFOhub seems to be the only hub that grows by shrinking. ;)

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by AirFiero
Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/2/2018:AA/AS/DL/UA/WN
Replies: 79
Views: 10583

Re: OAG Changes 9/2/2018:AA/AS/DL/UA/WN

They aren't acting like they are losing in SJC IMHO, although AS wasn't acting like they were losing in SFO until they did... According to AS, there were 44 new routes launched in 2017 and they still serve 36 of them. Maybe the routes dropped were weighted more towards SFO but I think it's too earl...

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by AirFiero
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/2/2018:AA/AS/DL/UA/WN
Replies: 79
Views: 10583

Re: OAG Changes 9/2/2018:AA/AS/DL/UA/WN

I’m not sure of the OP’s rationale, but I’d view WN as the incumbent leader at SJC and they’ve shown no sign of backing down so far. However, I think there is a decent chance they can both thrive in SJC serving slightly different buyers. Yes, that’s been my take on it. AS offers a few more choices....

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by AirFiero
Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/2/2018:AA/AS/DL/UA/WN
Replies: 79
Views: 10583

Re: OAG Changes 9/2/2018:AA/AS/DL/UA/WN

I think any AS buildup into SJC is a reaction to WN...they're both adding like crazy but so far WN seems to be winning. I’m curious, what makes you think that? I’m not sure of the OP’s rationale, but I’d view WN as the incumbent leader at SJC and they’ve shown no sign of backing down so far. Howeve...

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by AirFiero
Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/2/2018:AA/AS/DL/UA/WN
Replies: 79
Views: 10583

Re: OAG Changes 9/2/2018:AA/AS/DL/UA/WN

hiflyeras wrote:
I think any AS buildup into SJC is a reaction to WN...they're both adding like crazy but so far WN seems to be winning.


I’m curious, what makes you think that?

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by AirFiero
Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: The ecological point of view - Do you look at your ecological footprint when you travel?
Replies: 54
Views: 3168

Re: The ecological point of view - Do you look at your ecological footprint when you travel?

If you really believe that CO2 is a problem to be solved, and are worried about your carbon footprint”, you have no business flying or traveling. Going on vacation should no longer be an option. Stay the hell home if you really believe this stuff. If you aren’t willing to sacrifice for the belief th...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion
Replies: 38
Views: 3538

Re: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion

They still have plenty of codeshare routes. And as long as you buy those tickets through AS you still get full AS miles. I just did this on LAX-MSY. Obviously, I can’t query every city but even before the diluted AS-AA and now gone AS-DL relationship it wasn’t much if any easier to get to a small o...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion
Replies: 38
Views: 3538

Re: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion

I don’t think AS has completely lost AA as a partner. They still have plenty of codeshare routes. And as long as you buy those tickets through AS you still get full AS miles. I just did this on LAX-MSY. Obviously, I can’t query every city but even before the diluted AS-AA and now gone AS-DL relatio...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion
Replies: 38
Views: 3538

Re: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion

I don’t think AS has completely lost AA as a partner. They still have plenty of codeshare routes. And as long as you buy those tickets through AS you still get full AS miles. I just did this on LAX-MSY. Obviously, I can’t query every city but even before the diluted AS-AA and now gone AS-DL relatio...

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by AirFiero
Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion
Replies: 38
Views: 3538

Re: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion

It would seem to me that expansion at SFO would be met with some pretty strong resistance from UA. It seems that AS would benefit from a focus city further east. With the loss of partners (DL and mostly AA as well), it isn't easy to fly AS to medium/smaller markets back East. Say SEA to Buffalo to ...

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by AirFiero
Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion
Replies: 38
Views: 3538

Re: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion

My guess is that eventually, AS will max out – space-wise -- at SAN & SJC before they run out of new destinations and routes to add. (Not anytime soon however.) bb Seems like SJC is planning to add space for both AS and WN. SAN may be a different story. Frankly with SFO fog situation and the po...

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by AirFiero
Thu Aug 30, 2018 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion
Replies: 38
Views: 3538

Re: How are AS focus cities doing with expansion

First, AS’s focus cities are considered to be SAN and SJC. Hubs are: SEA, PDX, SFO, LAX & ANC. The two focus cities are doing very well with expansion and system growth. I think the only problem is that they are both getting low on overnight parking room. My guess is that eventually, AS will ma...

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by AirFiero
Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

Does anyone know how the 3X daily AS SJC-BUR e175 route is performing? Meeting expectations? Will AS keep it status quo? According to this weeks OAG thread, they are adding one more flight next year. Tphuang said it isn’t doing well passenger load wise. Go figure. Not doing great from the numbers i...

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by AirFiero
Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

The dynamics are not in place like they used to be, and their current set-up isn't built for the type of long-term profitability that their airline industry peers will have. SEA: No longer the fortress hub it once was SAN/SJC: Very competitive WN stations PDX/ANC: Safe markets, but limited growth p...

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by AirFiero
Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

Which airline is moving into T1, AA or AS? AA. It has been said many times over the years that AA was moving into B and VX (now AS) would get all of T2 to themselves. Does anyone know how the 3X daily AS SJC-BUR e175 route is performing? Meeting expectations? Will AS keep it status quo? They are up...

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by AirFiero
Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

whpbur wrote:
Does anyone know how the 3X daily AS SJC-BUR e175 route is performing? Meeting expectations? Will AS keep it status quo?


According to this weeks OAG thread, they are adding one more flight next year. Tphuang said it isn’t doing well passenger load wise. Go figure.

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by AirFiero
Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

Are you able to see the SJC - CLT numbers? AA has been running that route seasonally for summer. It's a route I need to take occasionally, and am curious if it has any chance of going year round. 2017 CLT-SJC PDEW Q1: 44 Q2: 62 Q3: 61 Q4: 46 Thanks! Probably not good enough numbers to sustain year ...

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by AirFiero
Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

Are you able to see the SJC - CLT numbers? AA has been running that route seasonally for summer. It's a route I need to take occasionally, and am curious if it has any chance of going year round.

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by AirFiero
Mon Aug 27, 2018 3:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/26/2018:AA Drops PHL-FRA/MUC/GLA,PAP-FLL/JFK,DFWPBC,LAXYYZ;AS Drops ABQ-SFO/SNA,LAXMEX;UA Adds DEN-FLG/STS
Replies: 85
Views: 11210

Re: OAG Changes 8/26/2018:AA Drops PHL-FRA/MUC/GLA,PAP-FLL/JFK,DFWPBC,LAXYYZ;AS Drops ABQ-SFO/SNA,LAXMEX;UA Adds DEN-FLG

Was there something going on in the airline industry this past week where everyone is suddenly making cuts or adjustments at the same time? Fall Plus "capacity discipline" from earnings season Nothing against Mexico CITY. Maybe AS just doesn't have enough of a feed on the US end? And mayb...

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by AirFiero
Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/26/2018:AA Drops PHL-FRA/MUC/GLA,PAP-FLL/JFK,DFWPBC,LAXYYZ;AS Drops ABQ-SFO/SNA,LAXMEX;UA Adds DEN-FLG/STS
Replies: 85
Views: 11210

Re: OAG Changes 8/26/2019:AA Drops PHL-FRA/MUC/GLA,PAP-FLL/JFK,DFWPBC,LAXYYZ;AS Drops ABQ-SFO/SNA,LAXMEX;UA Adds DEN-FLG

What is it with MEX that we have many US carriers waiving the white flag in the market? Isn’t most of the traffic from the US to Mexico vacation traffic? Do many people vacation in Mexico City? MEX is the capital and business center of the country. The metro area is over 20 million people, roughly ...

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by AirFiero
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/26/2018:AA Drops PHL-FRA/MUC/GLA,PAP-FLL/JFK,DFWPBC,LAXYYZ;AS Drops ABQ-SFO/SNA,LAXMEX;UA Adds DEN-FLG/STS
Replies: 85
Views: 11210

Re: OAG Changes 8/26/2018:AA Drops PHL-FRA/MUC/GLA,PAP-FLL/JFK,DFWPBC,LAXYYZ;AS Drops ABQ-SFO/SNA,LAXMEX;UA Adds DEN-FLG

AS ABQ-SFO JAN 1.0>0.2[1.0] FEB 1.0>0[1.0] MAR 1.0>0[1.0] APR 1.0>0[1.0] MAY 1.0>0[1.0] AS BOS-SFO FEB 1.9>1.3[0] AS EWR-SFO JAN 4>3[0] FEB 4>3[0] This must be the only hub in history that is “still growing” and shrinking at the same time. Meanwhile... AS BUR-SJC MAR 3>4[3] APR 3>4[3] MAY 3>4[3] I ...

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by AirFiero
Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/26/2018:AA Drops PHL-FRA/MUC/GLA,PAP-FLL/JFK,DFWPBC,LAXYYZ;AS Drops ABQ-SFO/SNA,LAXMEX;UA Adds DEN-FLG/STS
Replies: 85
Views: 11210

Re: OAG Changes 8/26/2019:AA Drops PHL-FRA/MUC/GLA,PAP-FLL/JFK,DFWPBC,LAXYYZ;AS Drops ABQ-SFO/SNA,LAXMEX;UA Adds DEN-FLG

What is it with MEX that we have many US carriers waiving the white flag in the market? The Mexican LCCs own the point of sale MEX market but the US carriers should be able to get enough point of sale US traffic to sustain healthy levels of service to one of the largest cities in the world. Isn’t m...

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by AirFiero
Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 464
Views: 49936

Re: Southwest Airlines Network Thread 2018

In addition to Hawaii, WN could add nonstop service to SJC from ATL, IND, MCI, LGB, BNA, RDU, SAT, and IAD. Will WN be announcing any nonstop service to SJC from any of these 8 destinations in the August 30th schedule extension? As much of a SJC fan as I am, I’d think WN would be more likely to add...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

Well what's the point of trying anything? They're on lots of routes with heavy competition. ) That comment was a bit hyperbolic. I made a clear point that starting new service in the face of existing hourly service would be really difficult. Aren’t there better battles for AS to fight? And OAK is o...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 24, 2018 9:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

I also think AS could start more service from OAK with e-jets: OAK-FAT/SBA/PSP etc. I have been wondering about the viability of a middle of California “hub”, including a concentration of flights from smaller markets to the north and south. I’m not sure AS would do that, though. They have several p...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

Well what's the point of trying anything? They're on lots of routes with heavy competition. ) That comment was a bit hyperbolic. I made a clear point that starting new service in the face of existing hourly service would be really difficult. Aren’t there better battles for AS to fight? And OAK is o...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

OAK-SAN/SNA/LAX/BUR. OAK is the fourth largest airport in the state and they barely touch it, with zero intrastate service. They’re spending a lot of money on advertising in the east bay, including Oakland-specific advertising, but making no attempt to leverage that with any service. They’re clearl...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 24, 2018 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

Why is it not CLT? EA CO AS has more information than we do, so if he says its not CLT...its not, whether you like it or not. Someone posted this in another thread recently too. They said AS looked at CLT and decided against it. (Not directed at you, Boeing) Why would AS fly those two routes? AA al...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 375
Views: 30552

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

They could bring back SJC-PSP, SJC-ONT, maybe SJC-ATL, SJC-BOS, SJC-ORD? SJC EWR & JFK seem to be working. Maybe SJC-WAS? I see them building up their SJC and SAN Routes. Maybe SJC-MCI or SJC-RDU? They have the gate space in SJC. So maybe they will move some SFO stuff to the South Bay? I like t...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More
Replies: 130
Views: 14506

Re: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More

UA dropped SJC-ORD several years ago. They brought it back about a year ago. UA also restarted SJC-EWR then, but is dropping it. UA also flew SJC-IAD in the past, but dropped it several years ago. SJC will be back to 4 NY flights soon. UA is dropping EWR? I didn't see that. https://www.flightglobal...

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by AirFiero
Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More
Replies: 130
Views: 14506

Re: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More

SJC hasn't even consistently had ORD service. It has between two and three a day on AA, I don’t remember how many it has on UA, but it has historically been long served on UA. Edit, add: I just checked the SJC website and both United and American flight at two times daily UA dropped SJC-ORD several...

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by AirFiero
Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More
Replies: 130
Views: 14506

Re: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More

Are you asking if I personally prefer UA from SFO or AS from SJC? I try to fly AA or AAdvantage partners for the mileage. I avoid SFO at all costs. I’d rather take a connecting flight departing SJC. If you meant something else, please advise. I agree about SJC being underserved long haul and over s...

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by AirFiero
Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More
Replies: 130
Views: 14506

Re: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More

Well, that fits nicely. So you'd rather be in SFO with UA or SJC with AS? I'm not sure that is so easy, but SJC is underserved to the East and the economy is certainly on fire there. Trouble is, it's probably over-served short-haul. Are you asking if I personally prefer UA from SFO or AS from SJC? ...

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by AirFiero
Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More
Replies: 130
Views: 14506

Re: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More

*UA ABQ-LAX JAN 1.0>0.2[1.0] FEB 1.0>0[1.0] MAR 1.0>0.8[1.0] Didn't UA just add a second frequency about a month ago? UA has made similar winter reductions and suspensions in previous years Looks like it ran 1 RT a year ago. enilria wrote: Well, that fits nicely. So you'd rather be in SFO with UA o...

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by AirFiero
Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More
Replies: 130
Views: 14506

Re: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More

KLMatSJC wrote:
AirFiero wrote:
But after adding two gates last year, they suddenly are building 4 more right where AS operates.


Where else would you build it?


Said for those who are not familiar with the layout at SJC. Plus the two newest gates are occupied by AS. Could be coincidental.

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by AirFiero
Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More
Replies: 130
Views: 14506

Re: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More

Well, that fits nicely. So you'd rather be in SFO with UA or SJC with AS? I'm not sure that is so easy, but SJC is underserved to the East and the economy is certainly on fire there. Trouble is, it's probably over-served short-haul. Are you asking if I personally prefer UA from SFO or AS from SJC? ...

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by AirFiero
Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More
Replies: 130
Views: 14506

Re: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More

On the nose. At the end of the day, however, the gate assets in SFO are VERY valuable. I will be surprised if AS just surrenders them bit by bit. I wonder if they will try some new stuff next Summer? If they don't and more goes next Summer then they will exit it as a connect point operation. Maybe ...

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by AirFiero
Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More
Replies: 130
Views: 14506

Re: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More

Routing people through LAX... More like routing people onto UA or B6:) It seems like AS is really getting over SFO, and it seems like they cut a route the second WN starts it. And how are they still so scant on SFO-ORD? I'm still baffled that NK and F9 seem to have no problem getting gate space. Al...

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by AirFiero
Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More
Replies: 130
Views: 14506

Re: OAG Changes 8/19/2018:AS Drops FLLSFO;DL Drops JFKBGR,BMIMSP,BNACVG,FNTMSP;Y4 Adds ABQ/CLT/More

*AS FLL-SFO JAN 1.0>0.2[0] FEB 1.0>0[0] MAR 1.0>0.7[0] MAY 1.0>0[0.8]


Another AS route at SFO bites the dust. Interesting.

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by AirFiero
Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/12/2018: DL Drops CAK-DTW;CZ Adds LAX-SHE;UA Back in IAH-MZT;WN Builds LGB;F9 Extension
Replies: 95
Views: 13287

Re: OAG Changes 8/12/2018: DL Drops CAK-DTW;CZ Adds LAX-SHE;UA Back in IAH-MZT;WN Builds LGB;F9 Extension

B6 has ZERO regional service from LAX and doesn't compete with WN on a single route. How do you have a focus city without any short-haul or even medium-haul flights? You don't. B6's shortest route from LAX is MCO. I'd say you made my point that B6 avoids WN in the L.A. market which means an ONT foc...

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by AirFiero
Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/12/2018: DL Drops CAK-DTW;CZ Adds LAX-SHE;UA Back in IAH-MZT;WN Builds LGB;F9 Extension
Replies: 95
Views: 13287

Re: OAG Changes 8/12/2018: DL Drops CAK-DTW;CZ Adds LAX-SHE;UA Back in IAH-MZT;WN Builds LGB;F9 Extension

Of course ONT could happen, but keep in mind they are basically bailing out of LGB because WN got in. WN is kinda already operating a few flights at ONT...and all those other airports. LOL Yes, as does LAX, which has a B6 presence. B6 has ZERO regional service from LAX and doesn't compete with WN o...

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by AirFiero
Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/12/2018: DL Drops CAK-DTW;CZ Adds LAX-SHE;UA Back in IAH-MZT;WN Builds LGB;F9 Extension
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Re: OAG Changes 8/12/2018: DL Drops CAK-DTW;CZ Adds LAX-SHE;UA Back in IAH-MZT;WN Builds LGB;F9 Extension

What about another city, one with fewer restrictions? One with an FIS? Maybe ONT? What about a central or Northern California city? SFO, SJC, OAK, SMF? Of course ONT could happen, but keep in mind they are basically bailing out of LGB because WN got in. WN is kinda already operating a few flights a...

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by AirFiero
Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 8/12/2018: DL Drops CAK-DTW;CZ Adds LAX-SHE;UA Back in IAH-MZT;WN Builds LGB;F9 Extension
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Re: OAG Changes 8/12/2018: DL Drops CAK-DTW;CZ Adds LAX-SHE;UA Back in IAH-MZT;WN Builds LGB;F9 Extension

I thought JFK-DEN was a really strange addition to begin with. DEN is well served by DL and B6 from JFK, and there are plenty of choices from LGA and EWR. As this flight was timed to exist almost entirely on O&D, this route never made any sense to begin with. I expect WN to ramp up and then rol...

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by AirFiero
Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Airlines Network Thread 2018
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Re: Southwest Airlines Network Thread 2018

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but will Southwest have a fleet of designated inter-island planes, such as a few 73Gs based permanently in Hawaii? Or will their inter-island flights be conducted with the same planes flying to the mainland? Itineraries like OAK-OGG-LIH-SMF or the like. T...

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