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by MD80
Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s
Replies: 54
Views: 13918

Re: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s

https://www.seatmaestro.com/airplanes-s ... -b747-400/

First hit on google.



This layout doesn´t show 587 seats.
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FlyRow wrote:
MD80 wrote:
I´ve never seen a seating chart of a 587-seat Boeing 747. Is there some link or source available?

Thanks

https://www.seatmaestro.com/airplanes-s ... -b747-400/

First hit on google.



This layout doesn´t show 587 seats.

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by MD80
Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s
Replies: 54
Views: 13918

Re: Corsair's 587-seat 747-400s

I´ve never seen a seating chart of a 587-seat Boeing 747. Is there some link or source available?

Thanks

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by MD80
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alitalia DC-9 question
Replies: 11
Views: 1842

Re: Alitalia DC-9 question

Hello for information ATI DC9-30 has 115 Y seats, AZ DC9-30 has 109 CY seats The arrangements changed over the times like at most airlines.According to seatingcharts, AZ and BM had different layouts over all the years. On top of it, AZ used the "M80" for their MD-82s and "M82" f...

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by MD80
Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alitalia DC-9 question
Replies: 11
Views: 1842

Re: Alitalia DC-9 question

IIRC, the designation "D9S" was for the DC-9 of ATI with high density configuration. Alitalia used their DC-9 in a layout with fewer seats. The DC-9-32s of ATI had 120/123 or even 125 seats, while the DC-9 of AZ had much less, for many years (for example) 107 seats.

Regards

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by MD80
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Who designed Swissair's '80s livery?
Replies: 23
Views: 4902

Re: Who designed Swissair's '80s livery?

I LOVE this livery...especially on the DC-9's/MD-83s. I especially love the fact that they used brown, because its not really used very much in airline liveries (now and back then). In combination with Austrian Airlines (which opted for a different livery-approach with the delivery of their MD-81s ...

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by MD80
Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Who designed Swissair's '80s livery?
Replies: 23
Views: 4902

Re: Who designed Swissair's '80s livery?

I LOVE this livery...especially on the DC-9's/MD-83s. I especially love the fact that they used brown, because its not really used very much in airline liveries (now and back then). In combination with Austrian Airlines (which opted for a different livery-approach with the delivery of their MD-81s ...

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by MD80
Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future of the MD-80
Replies: 39
Views: 5792

Re: Future of the MD-80

Is Bulgaria Air Charter still planning on flying MD82 aircraft, albeit for 2021 ? They were last summer, between northern Europe and Bulgarian beaches.. and the country has good political relations with the USA, even if Bulgaria is of limited foreign policy importance to the USA There are rumors, t...

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by MD80
Sun May 10, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: "Permanent" Aircraft Retirement
Replies: 26
Views: 4633

Re: "Permanent" Aircraft Retirement

Air Canada once retired their Lockheed L-1011 TriStar in the 1990s and re-introduced three of these aircraft.

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by MD80
Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:33 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Scheduled long distance routes with small aircraft (incl stopovers)?
Replies: 49
Views: 4884

Re: Scheduled long distance routes with small aircraft (incl stopovers)?

Austrian Airlines also used their MD-87ERs on long routings to the Maldives and India with fuel stops. Even with the MD-81, they operated flights to Kenya with a fuel stop.

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by MD80
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Scheduled long distance routes with small aircraft (incl stopovers)?
Replies: 49
Views: 4884

Re: Scheduled long distance routes with small aircraft (incl stopovers)?

United Airlines operated a DC-9-83 on DAC-DXB-IST-LGW as recently as 2009, which became LGW-IST-DXB-ZYL-DAC for a while on the return. The company was "United Airways", not United Airlines. Do you know the departure and arrival times of these routings? Some MD-80-operators used their airc...

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by MD80
Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:42 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Help! Who is this airline?
Replies: 20
Views: 4282

Re: Help! Who is this airline?

Finally...I went through the AIRLINERS.NET photo library and found a photo of the airline. GREAT CHINA AIRLINES MD-90. This photo shows a modified version of the livery of the photo that i have from the book. The tail logo is the same (minus the red/orange line) and the entire body of the plane is ...

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by MD80
Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:22 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Past possible orders
Replies: 30
Views: 1990

Re: Past possible orders

SAS were close to order 35 MD-95s and finally signed a contract for the Boeing 737-600. Korean Air considered to order MD-90s and MD-95s to augment their MD-80-fleet and ordered the Boeing 737NG. ValuJet looked very much into the Airbus A319 and decided to order the MD-95. Austrian Airlines, Finnair...

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by MD80
Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:00 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: tail cones on MD-80s
Replies: 21
Views: 5636

Re: tail cones on MD-80s

Personally, I never saw an USAir MD-80 with the newer cone, but I saw photos of MD-80s of Continental Airlines with the upgraded cones. I think, that only a small number of CO's MD-80s had this feature. Some European operators upgraded their MD-80s with new cones and replaced the old ones. SAS and F...

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by MD80
Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:00 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: tail cones on MD-80s
Replies: 21
Views: 5636

Re: tail cones on MD-80s

NearMiss wrote:
What was the difference between having the tailcone and having the screwdriver on those MD80s? Was it related to performance?


Brochures and other sources claimed a reduction of fuel-burn of up to 1% due to the installation of the screwdriver tail-cone.

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by MD80
Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:51 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: DC-9 Family What-Ifs
Replies: 19
Views: 3414

Re: DC-9 Family What-Ifs

I think, that there is another thread about this topic with many information regarding of speculative "what if's". BTW, there were also plans for an MD-90EC for European operators, namely Swissair and to a lesser extent for SAS and Finnair. What did the MD-90EC entail? "EC" stoo...

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by MD80
Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: DC-9 Family What-Ifs
Replies: 19
Views: 3414

Re: DC-9 Family What-Ifs

I think, that there is another thread about this topic with many information regarding of speculative "what if's".

BTW, there were also plans for an MD-90EC for European operators, namely Swissair and to a lesser extent for SAS and Finnair.

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by MD80
Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why the passion for the MD80's and 90's?
Replies: 80
Views: 9036

Re: Why the passion for the MD80's and 90's?

IMO, the "why the passion for..." would probably not asked when it comes to other types of aircraft. The number of people with a passion for MD-80s and MD-90s is rather small. It's a minority among the huge number of people with passion for civil aeroplanes. Personally, I am happy to liste...

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by MD80
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BER News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 469
Views: 79471

Re: BER News and Discussion Thread

BER will be excellent connected to Berlin and the region around by highways, streets, regional trains and S-train. Most will get faster to BER than to Tegel. Being based at TXL, I honesty don´t believe, that the public transport system in Berlin is able to offer excellent connections. The public tr...

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by MD80
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS and flight 261's aftermath
Replies: 27
Views: 8349

Re: AS and flight 261's aftermath

MR27122 wrote:
Yet new airplanes (MD-90), a new brand-identity, & re-positioning themselves slightly up-market proved to be a success.


ValuJet ordered MD-95s, not MD-90s.

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by MD80
Sat Sep 21, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Variety of Japanese (domestic) airlines
Replies: 2
Views: 704

Re: Variety of Japanese (domestic) airlines

Traditionally, Japan was known to have a "three-airlines"-policy: JAL, ANA, and JAS (TDA).

Regards

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by MD80
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAS 737-600 Retirement
Replies: 74
Views: 14019

Re: SAS 737-600 Retirement

69 built, after SAS retires their last 3 there will be 30 left: WestJet 13, Janet 6, Tunisair 6, Air Algerie 5. It is sort of ironic that when SAS bought the B736 instead of the MD95 (B717) it was a major blow to the latter program, yet there are more B717s still in front-line service today. SAS ne...

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by MD80
Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines MD-80 Retirement Discussion Thread
Replies: 652
Views: 133561

Re: American Airlines MD-80 Retirement Discussion Thread

Why didn't Crandall order the MD-87? Same reason most airlines didn't. I remember the -87 at Midway I. They were the launch customer. Nice planes. I believe I heard much later they were pretty heavy for its size. I think it was pretty much a DC9-50 with new engines and some tail modifications. Aust...

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by MD80
Wed May 22, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why Didn't DL Order the MD-95 & Save Long Beach Assembly?
Replies: 15
Views: 3804

Re: Why Didn't DL Order the MD-95 & Save Long Beach Assembly?

Obviously DL was a loyal McDonnell Douglas consumer. Yes, a large number of companies were loyal customers of McDonnell Douglas, not only Delta. For many operators, the twin-engined jetliners were faithful workhorses and the durability and overall economics of the DC-9 was also a hindering factor f...

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by MD80
Wed May 01, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: MD88/MD90/B712 Love/Hate Relationship
Replies: 73
Views: 7844

Re: MD88/MD90/B712 Love/Hate Relationship

In general, the number of enthusiasts for these jetliners is rather small compared to other types of aircraft. However, it's only my impression and experience.

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by MD80
Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78
Replies: 10
Views: 800

Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Weren't the 146's introduced in the mid-1980's? I think, that PSA introduced the BAe 146 in 1984 and 24 aircraft were part of the fleet upon integration itno USAir. Initially seating 100 passengers, the arrangement was changed from 6- to 5-abreast seating and 85 seats after complaints by passengers...

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by MD80
Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78
Replies: 10
Views: 800

Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

I have a friend who remembers that one of their first flights was in a PSA aircraft but isn't sure what type of plane it was. They said it was in the late 70s (77-78) and they remember the seating was 3 and 3. They flew from LAX-JSC. Would that route possibly been a 727 or maybe a 737-200? Thanks! ...

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by MD80
Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cruzeiro lone MD-80?
Replies: 4
Views: 1450

Re: Cruzeiro lone MD-80?

The single MD-82 (PP-CJM) was used between December 1982 and March 1983 and served Belem, Brasilia, Curitiba, Fortaleza , Manaus, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro as well as Sao Paulo. Internationally, Buenos Aires was served from Sao Paulo via Porto Alegre. The MD-82 offered a capacity for 155 ...

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by MD80
Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Japan Airlines Branding
Replies: 29
Views: 5900

Re: Japan Airlines Branding

I don’t have photobucket anymore, or else I’d be posting the actual image. This user on Instagram created a nice “update” to the current livery. https://www.instagram.com/aeroliveries/p/BrVAsE7gljg/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1x7p7ovkj4jry IMHO it looks quite nice. This ist what I persona...

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by MD80
Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing committing economic suicide by opening China aircraft plants
Replies: 28
Views: 4449

Re: Airbus and Boeing committing economic suicide by opening China aircraft plants

Airbus and Boeing are not the first to produce airplanes in China. McDonnell Douglas had an MD90 line there. That was like 20 years ago. Only a batch of MD-90s were produced, the majority were licence-built MD-80s. After re-organisation of CAAC, China Eastern Airlines and China Northern Airlines op...

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by MD80
Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LEVEL mishap @ EZE
Replies: 12
Views: 4071

Re: LEVEL mishap @ EZE

Believe me or not, there is a risk because of personal fatigue (and many other reason), that even (or because) of routine or/and interference during a few seconds while disarming the door, a member of the cabin could accidentally move the door handle instead of the arming lever. This means, that the...

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by MD80
Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Japan Airlines Branding
Replies: 29
Views: 5900

Re: Japan Airlines Branding

JAL's branding is classic, elegant and simple. They don't need to change a thing. I agree with you. The resurrection of the logo ("Tsuru") was a very wise decision and enabled JAL to go back to their roots. The livery might be "too simple". JAL-planes look like aircraft from the...

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by MD80
Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air bends a 767
Replies: 130
Views: 43550

Re: Atlas Air bends a 767

nikeherc wrote:
During certification testing, Douglas broke the rear end off of a super 80. The plane was intended for SAS, but they wanted one that hadn’t been bent. Douglas kept it as an R&D frame after it was repaired.


The mentioned aircraft was intended for Swissair, not SAS.

Regards

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by MD80
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Are 6 abreast MD80s certified by the FAA?
Replies: 18
Views: 5799

Re: Are 6 abreast MD80s certified by the FAA?

Not so much a matter of legal as it is practical. Pretty sure legal as well, no idea how you could get minimal aisle width with 6 seats I am not aware of any MD-80 with 6-abreast seating. However, Continental Airlines configured at least one DC-9 with 6-abreast seating and the DC-9 was called "...

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by MD80
Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:17 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why did Mcdonnell Douglas not update the B717/MD95 wing?
Replies: 21
Views: 4073

Re: Why did Mcdonnell Douglas not update the B717/MD95 wing?

One thing to remember about the 717 development is the mission it was designed for was short haul. We're talking about an airplane that at full fuel tanks just barely has the fuel capacity for LGA-MIA with a FLL alternate. The majority of potential future-operators of the MD-95 wanted to retain the...

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by MD80
Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OS retro livery?
Replies: 28
Views: 4614

Re: OS retro livery?

For me, it's livery "B". Simple, elegant and a clean identiy.

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by MD80
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Austrian Airlines new retrojet A320
Replies: 4
Views: 1148

Re: Austrian Airlines new retrojet A320

For me, this classic livery is the best one used by Austrian Airlines. Simple, yet unique and a strong brand.

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by MD80
Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Remaining DC-9 operators (DC-9-14 to DC-9-51)
Replies: 32
Views: 5233

Re: Remaining DC-9 operators (DC-9-14 to DC-9-51)

Thanks for your list of active DC-9s!

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by MD80
Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:46 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: At what phase (before pushback) are pax loaded?
Replies: 12
Views: 1942

Re: At what phase (before pushback) are pax loaded?

It will probably depend on each airline and different types of aircraft. I am a flight attendant on A319/320s and the policy of the company (for which I am working for) normally starts boarding 25 minutes prior to door closing.

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by MD80
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Germania ceases operations
Replies: 144
Views: 34090

Re: Germania ceases operations

CARST wrote:
F9Animal wrote:
So sad! Is there any chance that someone could save the airline?


EasyJet I think is still chartering Jets to cover all their routes.


If you mean the TXL-ops, easyJet no longer uses jets chartered by other companies. All flights are operated with easyJet-aircraft and crews.

Regards

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by MD80
Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:10 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Questions for pilots and FA's-
Replies: 55
Views: 6651

Re: Questions for pilots and FA's-

I often see pilots in uniform is that a requirement? My employer requires, that a crew member has to wear full uniform on a positioning flight as long as the next duty starts on the same day. When commuting, you don´t need to wear your uniform. I think, it really depends on each company which guide...

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by MD80
Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:33 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Questions for pilots and FA's-
Replies: 55
Views: 6651

Re: Questions for pilots and FA's-

Passengers recognize me sometimes and I recognize them while working as part of a cabin crew.

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by MD80
Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was the MD-87 a failure?
Replies: 46
Views: 10502

Re: Was the MD-87 a failure?

September11 wrote:
Wow, I almost forgot about MD-87. So, DC-9-30 was the top selling aircraft for MD family? Without looking, they produced 1,000 DC-9-30s?


621 DC-9-30s were produced. 976 DC-9s left the factory shiny-new.

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by MD80
Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta MD-88/90 B-717 Fleet
Replies: 21
Views: 5014

Re: Delta MD-88/90 B-717 Fleet

...a.net wants to believe the Mad Dogs will live on forever... My impression over all the years is a different one. The majority of people want to see MD-80-retirements as fast as possible and shape pictures, that any companies who ever decided to operate Douglas-jetliners made a wrong decision. :d...

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by MD80
Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Horizon Air Fokker F28 History
Replies: 18
Views: 4175

Re: Horizon Air Fokker F28 History

I remember vaguely, that Horizon Air was mentioned (alongside TAT, SAS, and Merpati) in 1997/96 as a very likely customer for a re-engined Fokker F28 called the "Fokker F28 RE Partnership". This modified Fokker F28 would have received some major modifications, including a 1.14 m plug to st...

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by MD80
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines MD-80 Retirement Discussion Thread
Replies: 652
Views: 133561

Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

In 1991, there were reports about a potential conversion of MD-80-options to MD-90s. This never happened and the Boeing 727 remained a big part of their fleet alongside their 260 MD-80s. Several sources during the 1990s claim, that American Airlines was looking at the MD-90. This appears quiet logic...

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by MD80
Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future Of Hawaiian Inter-Island Travel
Replies: 145
Views: 21559

Re: The Future Of Hawaiian Inter-Island Travel

What are the average total cycles on the Hawaiian 717's? Is there a possibility of Boeing doing like Northwest did in the early 90's with their DC-9's to extend the life on them say 5-10 years down the road from now? Or is this a different animal because of the salt air and corrosion so it would ma...

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by MD80
Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Air MD-80 order
Replies: 48
Views: 9196

Re: US Air MD-80 order

One important correction of my previous post: I meant 2002, April 2002.

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by MD80
Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Air MD-80 order
Replies: 48
Views: 9196

Re: US Air MD-80 order

IINM, the MD-80s were retired sometime in early 2002. US made it clear, even before 9/11, that the older planes in their fleet (DC9s, 737-200s, MD-80s, F28s, and F100s) were going to be replaced by either Airbus aircraft or RJs, depending on the route. It appears, that the last MD-80´s were removed...

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by MD80
Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Mad Dog days are up
Replies: 47
Views: 13445

Re: Allegiant Mad Dog days are up

Yes, I am aware of the "mass retirement" of 20 aircraft during one day about two years ago.

I meant the pace of final retirement of this type. Iberia did not retire their 37 MD-80s within two days or Austrian did not retire their 20 original MD-80s within 24 hours.

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