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by MD80
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAS 737-600 Retirement
Replies: 52
Views: 7187

Re: SAS 737-600 Retirement

69 built, after SAS retires their last 3 there will be 30 left: WestJet 13, Janet 6, Tunisair 6, Air Algerie 5. It is sort of ironic that when SAS bought the B736 instead of the MD95 (B717) it was a major blow to the latter program, yet there are more B717s still in front-line service today. SAS ne...

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by MD80
Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines MD-80 Retirement Discussion Thread
Replies: 648
Views: 114880

Re: American Airlines MD-80 Retirement Discussion Thread

Why didn't Crandall order the MD-87? Same reason most airlines didn't. I remember the -87 at Midway I. They were the launch customer. Nice planes. I believe I heard much later they were pretty heavy for its size. I think it was pretty much a DC9-50 with new engines and some tail modifications. Aust...

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by MD80
Wed May 22, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Why Didn't DL Order the MD-95 & Save Long Beach Assembly?
Replies: 15
Views: 3617

Re: Why Didn't DL Order the MD-95 & Save Long Beach Assembly?

Obviously DL was a loyal McDonnell Douglas consumer. Yes, a large number of companies were loyal customers of McDonnell Douglas, not only Delta. For many operators, the twin-engined jetliners were faithful workhorses and the durability and overall economics of the DC-9 was also a hindering factor f...

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by MD80
Wed May 01, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: MD88/MD90/B712 Love/Hate Relationship
Replies: 73
Views: 7063

Re: MD88/MD90/B712 Love/Hate Relationship

In general, the number of enthusiasts for these jetliners is rather small compared to other types of aircraft. However, it's only my impression and experience.

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by MD80
Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78
Replies: 10
Views: 737

Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

Weren't the 146's introduced in the mid-1980's? I think, that PSA introduced the BAe 146 in 1984 and 24 aircraft were part of the fleet upon integration itno USAir. Initially seating 100 passengers, the arrangement was changed from 6- to 5-abreast seating and 85 seats after complaints by passengers...

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by MD80
Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78
Replies: 10
Views: 737

Re: Pacific Southwest Airlines equipment type in 1977/78

I have a friend who remembers that one of their first flights was in a PSA aircraft but isn't sure what type of plane it was. They said it was in the late 70s (77-78) and they remember the seating was 3 and 3. They flew from LAX-JSC. Would that route possibly been a 727 or maybe a 737-200? Thanks! ...

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by MD80
Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cruzeiro lone MD-80?
Replies: 4
Views: 1357

Re: Cruzeiro lone MD-80?

The single MD-82 (PP-CJM) was used between December 1982 and March 1983 and served Belem, Brasilia, Curitiba, Fortaleza , Manaus, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro as well as Sao Paulo. Internationally, Buenos Aires was served from Sao Paulo via Porto Alegre. The MD-82 offered a capacity for 155 ...

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by MD80
Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Japan Airlines Branding
Replies: 29
Views: 5488

Re: Japan Airlines Branding

I don’t have photobucket anymore, or else I’d be posting the actual image. This user on Instagram created a nice “update” to the current livery. https://www.instagram.com/aeroliveries/p/BrVAsE7gljg/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1x7p7ovkj4jry IMHO it looks quite nice. This ist what I persona...

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by MD80
Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus and Boeing committing economic suicide by opening China aircraft plants
Replies: 28
Views: 4133

Re: Airbus and Boeing committing economic suicide by opening China aircraft plants

Airbus and Boeing are not the first to produce airplanes in China. McDonnell Douglas had an MD90 line there. That was like 20 years ago. Only a batch of MD-90s were produced, the majority were licence-built MD-80s. After re-organisation of CAAC, China Eastern Airlines and China Northern Airlines op...

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by MD80
Sat Mar 23, 2019 4:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LEVEL mishap @ EZE
Replies: 12
Views: 3923

Re: LEVEL mishap @ EZE

Believe me or not, there is a risk because of personal fatigue (and many other reason), that even (or because) of routine or/and interference during a few seconds while disarming the door, a member of the cabin could accidentally move the door handle instead of the arming lever. This means, that the...

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by MD80
Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Japan Airlines Branding
Replies: 29
Views: 5488

Re: Japan Airlines Branding

JAL's branding is classic, elegant and simple. They don't need to change a thing. I agree with you. The resurrection of the logo ("Tsuru") was a very wise decision and enabled JAL to go back to their roots. The livery might be "too simple". JAL-planes look like aircraft from the...

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by MD80
Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air bends a 767
Replies: 130
Views: 42220

Re: Atlas Air bends a 767

nikeherc wrote:
During certification testing, Douglas broke the rear end off of a super 80. The plane was intended for SAS, but they wanted one that hadn’t been bent. Douglas kept it as an R&D frame after it was repaired.


The mentioned aircraft was intended for Swissair, not SAS.

Regards

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by MD80
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Are 6 abreast MD80s certified by the FAA?
Replies: 18
Views: 5655

Re: Are 6 abreast MD80s certified by the FAA?

Not so much a matter of legal as it is practical. Pretty sure legal as well, no idea how you could get minimal aisle width with 6 seats I am not aware of any MD-80 with 6-abreast seating. However, Continental Airlines configured at least one DC-9 with 6-abreast seating and the DC-9 was called "...

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by MD80
Tue Mar 05, 2019 1:17 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why did Mcdonnell Douglas not update the B717/MD95 wing?
Replies: 21
Views: 3731

Re: Why did Mcdonnell Douglas not update the B717/MD95 wing?

One thing to remember about the 717 development is the mission it was designed for was short haul. We're talking about an airplane that at full fuel tanks just barely has the fuel capacity for LGA-MIA with a FLL alternate. The majority of potential future-operators of the MD-95 wanted to retain the...

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by MD80
Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OS retro livery?
Replies: 28
Views: 4237

Re: OS retro livery?

For me, it's livery "B". Simple, elegant and a clean identiy.

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by MD80
Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Austrian Airlines new retrojet A320
Replies: 4
Views: 1116

Re: Austrian Airlines new retrojet A320

For me, this classic livery is the best one used by Austrian Airlines. Simple, yet unique and a strong brand.

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by MD80
Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Remaining DC-9 operators (DC-9-14 to DC-9-51)
Replies: 32
Views: 4676

Re: Remaining DC-9 operators (DC-9-14 to DC-9-51)

Thanks for your list of active DC-9s!

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by MD80
Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:46 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: At what phase (before pushback) are pax loaded?
Replies: 12
Views: 1854

Re: At what phase (before pushback) are pax loaded?

It will probably depend on each airline and different types of aircraft. I am a flight attendant on A319/320s and the policy of the company (for which I am working for) normally starts boarding 25 minutes prior to door closing.

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by MD80
Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Germania ceases operations
Replies: 144
Views: 33234

Re: Germania ceases operations

CARST wrote:
F9Animal wrote:
So sad! Is there any chance that someone could save the airline?


EasyJet I think is still chartering Jets to cover all their routes.


If you mean the TXL-ops, easyJet no longer uses jets chartered by other companies. All flights are operated with easyJet-aircraft and crews.

Regards

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by MD80
Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:10 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Questions for pilots and FA's-
Replies: 55
Views: 6324

Re: Questions for pilots and FA's-

I often see pilots in uniform is that a requirement? My employer requires, that a crew member has to wear full uniform on a positioning flight as long as the next duty starts on the same day. When commuting, you don´t need to wear your uniform. I think, it really depends on each company which guide...

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by MD80
Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:33 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Questions for pilots and FA's-
Replies: 55
Views: 6324

Re: Questions for pilots and FA's-

Passengers recognize me sometimes and I recognize them while working as part of a cabin crew.

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by MD80
Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was the MD-87 a failure?
Replies: 46
Views: 10134

Re: Was the MD-87 a failure?

September11 wrote:
Wow, I almost forgot about MD-87. So, DC-9-30 was the top selling aircraft for MD family? Without looking, they produced 1,000 DC-9-30s?


621 DC-9-30s were produced. 976 DC-9s left the factory shiny-new.

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by MD80
Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta MD-88/90 B-717 Fleet
Replies: 21
Views: 4744

Re: Delta MD-88/90 B-717 Fleet

...a.net wants to believe the Mad Dogs will live on forever... My impression over all the years is a different one. The majority of people want to see MD-80-retirements as fast as possible and shape pictures, that any companies who ever decided to operate Douglas-jetliners made a wrong decision. :d...

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by MD80
Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Horizon Air Fokker F28 History
Replies: 18
Views: 3747

Re: Horizon Air Fokker F28 History

I remember vaguely, that Horizon Air was mentioned (alongside TAT, SAS, and Merpati) in 1997/96 as a very likely customer for a re-engined Fokker F28 called the "Fokker F28 RE Partnership". This modified Fokker F28 would have received some major modifications, including a 1.14 m plug to st...

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by MD80
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines MD-80 Retirement Discussion Thread
Replies: 648
Views: 114880

Re: American Airlines Sets Retirement Date for MD-80s

In 1991, there were reports about a potential conversion of MD-80-options to MD-90s. This never happened and the Boeing 727 remained a big part of their fleet alongside their 260 MD-80s. Several sources during the 1990s claim, that American Airlines was looking at the MD-90. This appears quiet logic...

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by MD80
Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Future Of Hawaiian Inter-Island Travel
Replies: 145
Views: 20914

Re: The Future Of Hawaiian Inter-Island Travel

What are the average total cycles on the Hawaiian 717's? Is there a possibility of Boeing doing like Northwest did in the early 90's with their DC-9's to extend the life on them say 5-10 years down the road from now? Or is this a different animal because of the salt air and corrosion so it would ma...

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by MD80
Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Air MD-80 order
Replies: 48
Views: 8896

Re: US Air MD-80 order

One important correction of my previous post: I meant 2002, April 2002.

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by MD80
Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US Air MD-80 order
Replies: 48
Views: 8896

Re: US Air MD-80 order

IINM, the MD-80s were retired sometime in early 2002. US made it clear, even before 9/11, that the older planes in their fleet (DC9s, 737-200s, MD-80s, F28s, and F100s) were going to be replaced by either Airbus aircraft or RJs, depending on the route. It appears, that the last MD-80´s were removed...

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by MD80
Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Mad Dog days are up
Replies: 47
Views: 13181

Re: Allegiant Mad Dog days are up

Yes, I am aware of the "mass retirement" of 20 aircraft during one day about two years ago.

I meant the pace of final retirement of this type. Iberia did not retire their 37 MD-80s within two days or Austrian did not retire their 20 original MD-80s within 24 hours.

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by MD80
Sat Nov 17, 2018 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Allegiant Mad Dog days are up
Replies: 47
Views: 13181

Re: Allegiant Mad Dog days are up

Could this be the fastest retirement of a remaining MD-80-fleet? The original post states 20 MD-80s and only a few days are left until their planned retirement. Historically, I can't remember a final retirement that fast among MD-80-operators from 20 to zero within roughly one week.

Regards

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by MD80
Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was the MD-87 a failure?
Replies: 46
Views: 10134

Re: Was the MD-87 a failure?

[quote="redzeppelin"Was the 87 still in the OS fleet then?[/quote] Yes, all five MD-87s were still in the fleet and the reduction of the MD-80-fleet mainly affected the MD-81-subfleet. The original plan from approx. 1992 was to retain only the five MD-87s and two MD-83s after 2000. The sec...

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by MD80
Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was the MD-87 a failure?
Replies: 46
Views: 10134

Re: Was the MD-87 a failure?

seat1a wrote:
Didn't Balair/CTA also fly the MD87?


Yes, CTA operated four MD-87s and these aircraft replaced a similar number of Caravelle-aircraft. IIRC, two of these MD-87 went to SAS and two to Reno Air.

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by MD80
Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was the MD-87 a failure?
Replies: 46
Views: 10134

Re: Was the MD-87 a failure?

Great American Airways of Reno, NV had at least one MD-87. Operated in Midway colors with Great American Airways titles in the 90s. Yes! A rather tiny airline with DC-9-10s, MD-80s and the MD-87. :smile: didn't Delta convert some MD-87s into 88's ? Delta never ordered the MD-87. ...there was no app...

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by MD80
Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was the MD-87 a failure?
Replies: 46
Views: 10134

Re: Was the MD-87 a failure?

The MD-87SR (or any MD-87 with lower mtow Kg-option) were designed with the flexibility to operate short hauls and MD-87s were often used on short hauls. This was important for many operators - flying from Helsinki to Cairo on any given day, flying from Helsinki to Oslo the other day. The JT8D-217C ...

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by MD80
Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was the MD-87 a failure?
Replies: 46
Views: 10134

Re: Was the MD-87 a failure?

Northwest Airlines was one of the forerunners for the MD-87-105 (later MD-95) in approx. 1991. The rest is history. However, McDonnell Douglas tried to sell their MD-87 to PSA and TWA. So, in March 1992, the last MD-87 was delivered (to SAS) and in 1995, McDonnell Douglas offered ValuJet newly-built...

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by MD80
Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Was the MD-87 a failure?
Replies: 46
Views: 10134

Re: Was the MD-87 a failure?

The MD-87 was launched by Austrian Airlines and Finnair with orders for four and eight respectively. The MD-87 was offered with different weights and Austrian Airlines even described their first two MD-87s as MD-87 ER´s and the three MD-87s delivered in 1990 as MD-87 SR´s. According to McDonnell Dou...

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by MD80
Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is there no easyJet or Ryanair at HEL?
Replies: 12
Views: 4583

Re: Why is there no easyJet or Ryanair at HEL?

easyJet provides flights between Helsinki and Berlin-Tegel.

Regards

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by MD80
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nepal Airlines selling 757 Combi
Replies: 10
Views: 2410

Re: Nepal Airlines selling 757 Combi

MO11 wrote:
What makes you think this is a Combi?


Royal Nepal Airlines (now Nepal Airlines) was the only one to receive a single Boeing 757-200M (?) and this aircraft is a Combi.

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by MD80
Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: MD-80/90 Emergency Exit Question
Replies: 8
Views: 1194

Re: MD-80/90 Emergency Exit Question

Swissair asked for the aft galley service door during the development of the MD-80. This required some re-design of the structure, Are you saying that originally there was not going to be a door back there? Or it was going to be smaller? If so that's pretty interesting. I just read your other post....

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by MD80
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:14 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: MD-80/90 Emergency Exit Question
Replies: 8
Views: 1194

Re: MD-80/90 Emergency Exit Question

Due to evacuation requirements, the increased length of the cabin has been taken into account on the MD-90. The maximum distance from a seat to the next exit must be maintained and thus, the distance between the hatches of the MD-90 were increased. This is, what I remember,

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by MD80
Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:48 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: MD-80/90 Emergency Exit Question
Replies: 8
Views: 1194

Re: MD-80/90 Emergency Exit Question

Swissair asked for the aft galley service door during the development of the MD-80. This required some re-design of the structure,

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by MD80
Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The CSeries' middle seat
Replies: 61
Views: 12566

Re: The CSeries' middle seat

I think, that a 3+3-seating allows a higher number of passengers wihtin a given fuselage-length. Generally, you need a longer cabin to accomodate the same number of passengers with 2+3-seating instead of 3+3.

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by MD80
Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:54 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airlines with cities on their name
Replies: 84
Views: 5149

Re: Airlines with cities on their name

Air Bremen, Berline, People's Viennaline, Air Hamburg, London City Airways.

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by MD80
Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:51 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Why are MD-88's so loud?
Replies: 20
Views: 4843

Re: Why are MD-88's so loud?

The MD-80 was the first aircraft of its size with Chapter 3-compliance. So, this aircraft is a "loud Chapter 3"-aircraft,

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by MD80
Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fewer than 400 MD-80/90 on airfleets
Replies: 85
Views: 12577

Re: Fewer than 400 MD-80/90 on airfleets

Ill sure miss seeing the MD's around! Anybody remember Midwest Express' nice fleet of Dc-9's and MD-80's?! Of course! :smile: For many years, Midwest Express had 60-seat DC-9-10s, 84-seat DC-9-30s and two 112-seat MD-88s (originally earmarked for Wardair Canada). Later, Midwest Express added eight ...

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by MD80
Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fewer than 400 MD-80/90 on airfleets
Replies: 85
Views: 12577

Re: Fewer than 400 MD-80/90 on airfleets

In my experience, there is a tendency of „negative consideration“ about MD-80s. I even refuse to contribute in one big specific German aviation forum to participate with topics and/or news about the MD-80, MD-90, Boeing 717, and DC-9 because it´s a waste of time and there is an approach of ignorance...

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by MD80
Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fewer than 400 MD-80/90 on airfleets
Replies: 85
Views: 12577

Re: Fewer than 400 MD-80/90 on airfleets

alex0easy wrote:
Far Eastern Air Transport has a few MD-82/83s flying.


It appears, that Far Eastern Air Transport is part of the very small group of remaining „original“-customers for the MD-80, alongside American Airlines and Delta Air Lines. All remaining MD-80-operators never ordered factory-new MD-80s.

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by MD80
Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Fewer than 400 MD-80/90 on airfleets
Replies: 85
Views: 12577

Re: Fewer than 400 MD-80/90 on airfleets

Virtually none left in Europe, looking at that list Iran will soon be the place to go to see MD80s! I think, that the MD-80 is (at the moment?) the most widely used civilian jetliner in Iran. However, the MD-80 will probably be replaced by newer aircraft within the next years. Years ago, I responde...

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by MD80
Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: 1988: My year in South Korea
Replies: 26
Views: 10994

Re: 1988: My year in South Korea

Fantastic to see your photo of an MD-82 of Korean Air! Thanks for sharing!

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by MD80
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why didn't TWA choose MD-11
Replies: 71
Views: 16677

Re: Why didn't TWA choose MD-11

SpaceshipDC10 wrote:
Of the MD-80s, TW got around 20 of the last built and delivered in 1999.


TWA signed a contract in April 1998 for 24 additional MD-83s. Historically, it was the last order for new MD-80s and the last MD-83 was delivered to TWA in December 1999.

Greetings!

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