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by UA444
Thu May 28, 2020 2:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New York Air vs Eastern Air Lines 1981
Replies: 65
Views: 8686

Re: New York Air vs Eastern Air Lines 1981

Pan Am Shuttle was the original New York Air BOS-LGA-DCA operation, which Lorenzo had to sell when he purchased Eastern. Pan Am paid $61m. As you mention, Delta purchased Pan Am Shuttle in 1991. The Bagels have indeed survived all three incarnations. I’m missing something. Please clarify. I thought...

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by UA444
Thu May 28, 2020 8:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Pan Am - New Documentary
Replies: 4
Views: 1179

Re: Pan Am - New Documentary

dstc47 wrote:
No disrespect to Pan Am as an innovator, but Europeans and Latin americans knew how to fly, and how to run airlines, one of them KLM still there, before Pan Am.

And UA pioneered a lot of things too. First FA, weather radar testing, Jeppsen Charts came from a UA pilot

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by UA444
Thu May 28, 2020 3:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 98
Views: 13831

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

You think that's what it would be about? How about keeping a long time customer that is extremely happy with both the 767F and 748F. That's more you applying human sentiment, than two corporations applying cold numbers, both immediate and projected. Doesn't do a thing to change what was said in the...

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by UA444
Thu May 28, 2020 12:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 98
Views: 13831

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

I would not be surprised at all if those five existing 747-8F customers were pinging Boeing about ensuring there is a sufficient supply of spare parts to keep their fleets operating and not about placing new orders. And as for the "new customers", one of them was start-up Avatar Airlines ...

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by UA444
Thu May 28, 2020 12:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 98
Views: 13831

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

I'm not sure why so many people are saying production is dead when it clearly is not. The article even said “ We are continuing to build 747-8s to meet the backlog of orders for the airplane and will continue to make the right decisions to keep the production line healthy ". Furthermore, just ...

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by UA444
Thu May 28, 2020 12:21 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: When will the last major airline retire the 757?
Replies: 6
Views: 848

Re: When will the last major airline retire the 757?

DL has the last 757s built so likely them. Cargo will fly them for a long time

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by UA444
Thu May 28, 2020 12:20 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Will Amazon Airlines ever use the 757?
Replies: 12
Views: 1176

Re: Will Amazon Airlines ever use the 757?

VSMUT wrote:
Where would they even source a fleet of 757s from?

If they need something bigger than a 737-800, look out for one of the 3 A321P2F programs that are under development.

UA, AA, and DL will have lots of 757s to choose from

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by UA444
Thu May 28, 2020 12:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: A major US airline likely will go out of business this year,
Replies: 300
Views: 38132

Re: AA's Doug Parker says U.S. Carriers Will Survive Without Bankruptcies

I feel like he means AMR/UAL/DAL survives without bankruptcy. I definitely see at least one smaller carrier filing. He makes a good argument about the demand problem vs unsustainable costs. The issue is that people are too scared to walk their dog in their neighborhood, let alone get on a plane. And...

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by UA444
Thu May 28, 2020 12:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: DL to acquire 7 A350’s from QR
Replies: 73
Views: 15068

Re: Rumor: DL to acquire 7 A350’s from QR

Maybe they’ll throw in the 777-200LRs as a trade

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by UA444
Wed May 27, 2020 8:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747
Replies: 98
Views: 13831

Re: ​Internal tussle as Boeing weighs future of 747

Boeing: production is continuing and we will decide later how to go forward


A.net “iTs toTaLLy deD I jUst kNoW iT”

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by UA444
Mon May 25, 2020 9:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago River Flooding Causes Willis Tower (United Airlines HQ) to lose power.
Replies: 45
Views: 7830

Re: Chicago River Flooding Causes Willis Tower (United Airlines HQ) to lose power.

AAs new headquarters is very pretty and using sprawling to describe it does not do the term justice. However....think about the differences between Chicago and Dallas during the winter. Do you want a large spread out HQ you either walk or drive between or a vertical one linked by elevators? AAs HQ ...

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by UA444
Mon May 25, 2020 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago River Flooding Causes Willis Tower (United Airlines HQ) to lose power.
Replies: 45
Views: 7830

Re: Chicago River Flooding Causes Willis Tower (United Airlines HQ) to lose power.

Well? Noplace is perfect.... Oh, I don't know, maybe... https://dmn-dallas-news-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/YSm1qGJadszZD-6jLgjfmpwLwAk=/1660x934/smart/filters:no_upscale()/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-dmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/DHOUGFQSIHAN34QUB6CQZXBNAI.jpg AAs new headquarters is very pretty...

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by UA444
Mon May 25, 2020 6:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SoCal Boneyard Storage and Activity Thread
Replies: 131
Views: 18161

Re: SoCal Boneyard Storage and Activity Thread

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAbkRsnhQNo/?hl=en

That’s a massive part of the vertical stabilizer. I’m shocked this isn’t making more news
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VCVSpotter wrote:
Looks like the Swift Air 737-800 (N820TJ) that passed through VCV the other day lost (a small) part of its tail in flight on the VCV-SAN leg. :shock:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAbkRsnhQNo/?hl=en

That’s a massive part of the vertical stabilizer. I’m shocked this isn’t making more news

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by UA444
Fri May 22, 2020 1:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Only airlines I see going down the tubes are NK, G4 (good riddance), and AA going through a restructuring. AS is pretty strong financially last I checked, and B6 wasn’t doing terribly

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by UA444
Thu May 21, 2020 10:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FT: Investors bet AA will file for BK
Replies: 170
Views: 27323

Re: FT: Investors bet AA will file for BK

I'm not a bankruptcy expert here but I wanted to pose an alternative to some of the scenarios being thrown around. What about a deal with either an investment group, another airline (or both) where AA enters CH-11 and the assets of AA are purchased from the creditors by the investors and are transf...

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by UA444
Thu May 21, 2020 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago River Flooding Causes Willis Tower (United Airlines HQ) to lose power.
Replies: 45
Views: 7830

Re: Chicago River Flooding Causes Willis Tower (United Airlines HQ) to lose power.

Jeff Smisek should stay in Houston as UA HQ and he picked Chicago and now look at willis tower screwed up. Too late and cant do anything to move back to Houston. Jeff is no longer work there and new CEO Oscar and Kirby still staying UA HQ in Chicago and no plan to move back to Houston. They looked ...

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by UA444
Thu May 21, 2020 4:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France to retire A380 fleet effective immediately
Replies: 195
Views: 32216

Re: Air France to retire A380 fleet effective immediately

Who would have predicted that more 747 will be flying into 2020s? Unlike many here on A.net, the 747-8 program is very successful one financially. Infrastructure was already paid for from prior 747 program and newer technology was inherited from the 787. I.e. engines. This is how I see it, 50% less...

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by UA444
Sun May 17, 2020 9:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 25 Years of the RR Trent
Replies: 42
Views: 6274

Re: 25 Years of the RR Trent

PW could always get onto a NG 787 or A350. The GTF has had some early foibles but that is what new tech does. It’s absolutely met fuel efficiency promises and it’s scaleable. Being the only game for the 220 and E2 is going to pay dividends later. Plus, it’s not like Boeing is in any position to pass...

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by UA444
Sun May 17, 2020 4:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777 - 25 years in commercial service
Replies: 147
Views: 13880

Re: 777 - 25 years in commercial service

maverick4002 wrote:
The firsr commercial flight was from London to DC? Not the other way around? Why would they start in London (outside of the USA)

Because they were relatively new at LHR and wanted more buzz for the plane. There were a few flights domestically that started that day but LHR-IAD was the first.

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by UA444
Sun May 17, 2020 4:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 777 - 25 years in commercial service
Replies: 147
Views: 13880

Re: 777 - 25 years in commercial service

There’s a bunch of discrepancies with the delivery date. According to United, they received the first 777 on May 17, not May 15. However, some fleet tracking sites say the aircraft was delivered on May 15. https://hub.united.com/united--boeing-history-2498768922.html It’s May 15. That post is wrong.

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by UA444
Sat May 16, 2020 4:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virtual tour of UA 727-022
Replies: 73
Views: 8318

Re: Virtual tour of UA 727-022

The pattern used until the mid-2000s is different. Those seats were grey and had blue, red, orange “squares” in the center portion. The common nickname is Tequila Sunrise. The bulkheads were also different. There was a lot of blue and grey on the 777s, looked similar to the tail design of the Battle...

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by UA444
Sat May 16, 2020 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did UA have a monopoly at EWR?
Replies: 80
Views: 9956

Re: Why did UA have a monopoly at EWR?

KlimaBXsst wrote:
My outside impression was,
EWR and New Jersey were and is still substantially more “business friendly” than New York State / City airports.

I am not sure this is still the case after Covid-19.

EWR, JFK, and LGA are all ran by the Port Authority of NY and NJ

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by UA444
Fri May 15, 2020 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virtual tour of UA 727-022
Replies: 73
Views: 8318

Re: Virtual tour of UA 727-022

wjcandee wrote:
Those bins are much later. I would guess late 1980s. What aircraft is this, and when was the presentation filmed?

It’s N7001U, the first 727 built. It was retired by UA in 1991.

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by UA444
Thu May 14, 2020 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

I show that UA has only 4 leased 777-200s - No 772As, ERs: PW N223UA, GE N77012, N78013 and non-Polaris N77014. Depending on when the leases expired, UA should probably dump 1999 N77014 and consider dumping N223UA/N77012/N78013. Regarding other 772s, some of the 772A units are newer than some 772ER...

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by UA444
Thu May 14, 2020 5:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Has Boeing hurt the 777 by not having a BCF option?
Replies: 44
Views: 11635

Re: Has Boeing hurt the 777 by not having a BCF option?

With DL retiring their entire 777 fleet and AA and UA both having large fleets of PW and RR 777s, wouldn’t those engine makers be smart to help a conversion program along since it would extend the viability of those engines?

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by UA444
Thu May 14, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet
Replies: 627
Views: 83704

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

Sad, but a good business decision. It will take too many years for widebody demand to return. Just was wondering the same thing when I saw this thread. I bet they get doors cut in them. Delta's 777 fleet is split across two subtypes, the -200ER and -200LR. If a P2F program gets launched, would it b...

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by UA444
Thu May 14, 2020 4:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did UA have a monopoly at EWR?
Replies: 80
Views: 9956

Re: Why did UA have a monopoly at EWR?

Right! I think even in "normal" times ~4-5 months ago I think DL was nipping at the heels of UA as far as market share even with their sub-optimal split LGA/JFK hub operation. With that said about the split hubs I would be curious about the yields between UA in its consolidated hub (with ...

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by UA444
Wed May 13, 2020 4:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Don’t know why they don’t just leverage Boeing’s screw ups with the MAX into more 767-300s which they wanted to buy new just two years ago but Boeing wouldn’t budge on price. Now Boeing is in deep you know what and instead of taking on a bunch of 737s that every Joe Blow on the street has heard bad...

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by UA444
Tue May 12, 2020 5:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Don’t know why they don’t just leverage Boeing’s screw ups with the MAX into more 767-300s which they wanted to buy new just two years ago but Boeing wouldn’t budge on price. Now Boeing is in deep you know what and instead of taking on a bunch of 737s that every Joe Blow on the street has heard bad ...

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by UA444
Tue May 12, 2020 5:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: A major US airline likely will go out of business this year,
Replies: 300
Views: 38132

Re: Boeing CEO: A major US airline likely will go out of business this year,

I thought it would be AA. I wasn’t sure for a while You know I never thought we'd see another carving of the cooked pig like we did with Pan Am but here we are. Let's see here... - United bring your plate right over here we're going to give you the rest of ORD, yes congratulations on your new fortr...

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by UA444
Tue May 12, 2020 2:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing CEO: A major US airline likely will go out of business this year,
Replies: 300
Views: 38132

Re: Boeing CEO: A major US airline likely will go out of business this year,

I thought it would be AA. I wasn’t sure for a while You know I never thought we'd see another carving of the cooked pig like we did with Pan Am but here we are. Let's see here... - United bring your plate right over here we're going to give you the rest of ORD, yes congratulations on your new fortr...

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by UA444
Mon May 11, 2020 4:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA CLE LGA?
Replies: 192
Views: 20088

Re: UA CLE LGA?

UA dumping LGA would be even worse than dumping JFK.

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by UA444
Sun May 10, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Of interest to the 767-400 and 757 discussion, the current pilot displacement was amended late Friday afternoon with a couple hundred fewer displacements. The pilots were also told that the 756 fleet would be sized to support 767-300ER flying. The displacement now anticipates 225 captains on the 75...

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by UA444
Sun May 10, 2020 11:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

With the failure of the bond issue, UAL is under even more pressure to reduce costs. The 30% size reduction is the start of the new baseline size. Every work group will get the 30% as of 1 Oct, with certain leadership indicating pilots should draw their own conclusions give the info UAL has put out...

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by UA444
Sun May 10, 2020 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Miami Air seeks Ch 11 bankruptcy protection
Replies: 66
Views: 14585

Re: Miami Air seeks Ch 11 bankruptcy protection

The only plus side to this so that we won’t have to endure seeing that heinous UA livery rip-off they just started painting. Sad for the employees. Been there done that with an airline. I loved that. Because it shows just how terrible the globe logo is that it can be ripped off so easily and there’...

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by UA444
Sat May 09, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: United DC-10's
Replies: 98
Views: 10983

Re: United DC-10's

DocLightning wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:

I don't recall UA DC-10s on ORD-DTW in the early ‘90s.


At least late ‘90s. Once a day. They used 737s and 727s otherwise.

They definitely did in the mid 1990s to 2000. I’ve been on them.

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by UA444
Sat May 09, 2020 9:16 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: United DC-10's
Replies: 98
Views: 10983

Re: United DC-10's

I could be wrong, but I don’t ever remember UA sending the DC-10 TATL. If they did it must not have been long. They converted the 762s to ETOPS and “ER” spec and used those before the 763 showed up.

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by UA444
Sat May 09, 2020 9:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

This looks like the end for the 764s and PW757s. In an email I got earlier today. "Currently, we’ve parked 450 mainline aircraft and 300 United Express aircraft across 23 locations. Some of those planes were already slated for retirement, including our B767-400 and B757 PS fleets." Bigger...

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by UA444
Sat May 09, 2020 1:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

This looks like the end for the 764s and PW757s. In an email I got earlier today. "Currently, we’ve parked 450 mainline aircraft and 300 United Express aircraft across 23 locations. Some of those planes were already slated for retirement, including our B767-400 and B757 PS fleets." Bigger...

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by UA444
Sat May 09, 2020 1:27 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: United DC-10's
Replies: 98
Views: 10983

Re: United DC-10's

Vast majority of the UA DC-10s were the -10 and flown domestically. UA never bought -30s brand new and initially bought them when they started flying to Asia in the early 1980s. Royal Pacific Service. They flew the -30s on routes like HNL-NRT until the late 1990s, but most other routes in Asia trans...

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by UA444
Fri May 08, 2020 9:46 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Rare and Short Lived Airline/Aircraft Combinations
Replies: 83
Views: 4794

Re: Rare and Short Lived Airline/Aircraft Combinations

UA had two or three 727s in an experimental battleship livery with a lighter shade of grey and black trim around the windows. It was called by some the “ghost” scheme. There’s a few photos on anet

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by UA444
Fri May 08, 2020 2:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 753 and 764 Survival
Replies: 45
Views: 9282

Re: 753 and 764 Survival

I think the 764 is done at UA. Can have its roles filled by the 763 and 788. No need to spend money to outfit them with Polaris seats

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by UA444
Tue May 05, 2020 10:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

What are the odds UA parts ways with some 787s and 77Ws? It may seem counterintuitive, but UA did shed a handful of newer 744s and 77Es during Ch 11. United did not willingly give up those newer 744s and 77Es that we lost during bankruptcy. As others have pointed out the leasing companies did not w...

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by UA444
Tue May 05, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United exercises options for 8 787-10s
Replies: 140
Views: 24493

Re: United exercises options for 7 787-10s

If UA wants to reduce its wide body fleet, they are in the worst position of the big US3. They just finished investing into refitting nearly all of their 777-200ERs and 767-300ERs (only 2-3 of each type left for refit). I highly doubt they would want to retire / store these aircraft having just put...

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by UA444
Tue May 05, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

What are the odds UA parts ways with some 787s and 77Ws? It may seem counterintuitive, but UA did shed a handful of newer 744s and 77Es during Ch 11. They had 44 744s at the time which was too many. The eight 777s they lost and the two 763s was due to the leasing company not renegotiating a new dea...

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by UA444
Mon May 04, 2020 8:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Parked at GSO?
Replies: 9
Views: 3262

Re: What's Parked at GSO?

N921NN is there

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by UA444
Mon May 04, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: Why didn't United not paint any Domestic 763s and 772 in the Rising Blue colors

Is there a reason why United's Domestic Ghetto Bird 763s and Hawaii configured 772 skipped the Rising Blue livery and were directly repainted from the Battleship Grey livery to the Continental Globe livery and only the International 763s and 772s got the Rising Blue colors? The domestic ones were n...

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by UA444
Sun May 03, 2020 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

UA444. You've bashed the 764 on on this thread before and promoted the more orphan, smaller, high-cycled 752PW fleet. I'm wondering if you have stock in Pratt and Whittney. The 764 was at the end of the 767 program and was built for CO/DL to replace DC10's and L-1011s. If earlier in the program und...

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by UA444
Sun May 03, 2020 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

The 764 is beyond overrated. There is a reason only two airlines ordered it and why none of them are flying currently while a few 763s soldier on. The 788 also seats only 3 more passengers and can fly farther and burn less fuel. You can easily dump the sub fleet that only has 16 planes and has the o...

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by UA444
Sun May 03, 2020 6:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020
Replies: 1991
Views: 329236

Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

A pilot posted that the 757s are gone, anyone got any update on this? I highly doubt we will see UA retire the 757 RR or 767-300ERs for a while. When this is all over they are going to be very important aircraft for UA. While they cost more to operate they can run routes like ORD/IAH/EWR/IAD to Eur...

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