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by VeeCee
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ten dead after King Air crashes shortly after takeoff
Replies: 71
Views: 18406

Re: Ten dead after King Air crashes shortly after takeoff

NIKV69 wrote:
No emergency call and no dialogue with controller after clearance. Telling.

What's telling about? By all accounts it was not in the air long. They would have had no time to call and/or were focused on trying to recover.

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by VeeCee
Sun May 05, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 821
Views: 145011

Re: Aeroflot SSJ100 on fire at Moscow (SVO)

usxguy wrote:
except it probably was the direct cause of many of these people dying.

Do you also support prosecuting pilots when people are injured or killed due to pilot error?

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by VeeCee
Sun May 05, 2019 8:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 821
Views: 145011

Re: Aeroflot SSJ100 on fire at Moscow (SVO)

It is so easy for us to sit at home or in the office on airliners.net in our safe environment and criticise people in an evacuation taking their hand luggage with them. I wholeheartedly agree with you. However, this incident shows that this behavior may lead to additional endangerment or loss of li...

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by VeeCee
Sun May 05, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 821
Views: 145011

Re: Aeroflot SSJ100 on fire at Moscow (SVO)

It is so easy for us to sit at home or in the office on airliners.net in our safe environment and criticise people in an evacuation taking their hand luggage with them. These people have just gone from "normal" to a major traumatising, life threatening event in seconds and survival instin...

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by VeeCee
Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 722206

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

The great tragedy in the MCAS debacle is that it's a system that was designed to increase safety after the airframe reconfiguration increased the likelihood of stalls. I see this as #1, there's the assumption (cert. requirement?) that the plane must automate its way out of that situation, rather th...

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by VeeCee
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 722206

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Also, Boeing wants/needs to know the actual cause as well. Doctoring data to reduce liability for this accident does nothing for them if there is a design flaw. If they keep selling a model with a fundamental flaw, there will be more crashes and the 737 MAX will have all orders cancelled and the pr...

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by VeeCee
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1730
Views: 391873

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

I don’t like it but it really is occums razor No one has ruled out anything yet, but seriously this is a pointless statement. When a plane crashes intact, pilot suicide will ALWAYS be the simplest possible answer because it is a single point of failure. A bad action by one person. But modern planes...

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by VeeCee
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 722206

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Speaking as an American it makes perfect sense to have the boxes read out in the UK. Why waste time shipping across the atlantic? NTSB can observe in the UK like they have done for many other accidents. Not unprecedented at all and I think the WSJ report is overblown and possibly a misinterpretatio...

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by VeeCee
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 722206

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Speaking as an American it makes perfect sense to have the boxes read out in the UK. Why waste time shipping across the atlantic? NTSB can observe in the UK like they have done for many other accidents. Not unprecedented at all and I think the WSJ report is overblown and possibly a misinterpretatio...

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1730
Views: 391873

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Ok this is very interesting news. Full power pushed nose down into the ground...wow. So why am I not seeing anything about what was said on the CVR? Has that information been discussed? I know they said poor sound quality, but surely they can make out something that either points this towards major...

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1730
Views: 391873

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

It seems a lot of the discussion here does not mention the idea of an intentional pitch down input on the controls to 49 degrees, have I missed out on some facts that 100% rule out pilot suicide? No, but you have missed out on the basic human notion that you don't go there until all the other possi...

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1730
Views: 391873

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Knowing nothing about automation in the 767, I could be convinced that the NTSB meant it was human input, or I could be convinced that they mean it's an input from another source. Not as clear as it could be. They are clear that the heading of 270 came from input to the ADS-B, and they are not clea...

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 722206

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Pluto707 wrote:
Another (stupid ?) question: Is the NTSB really entitled to harm Boeing ?

NTSB has ZERO regulatory authority. They investigate and issue recommendations. The FAA or other regulatory agency/governing body then issues directives.

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 722206

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Good point, the US may need a Tesla of aviation. A stoned man-child who abuses workers and rejects safety protocols because he doesn't like the color yellow? He's a genius visionary, one of the most famous men of our time. You? Anonymous internet cheap shot artist. A mismatch of epic proportion. No...

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1730
Views: 391873

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

"In response to column input" is a very concerning finding. In the absence of a stick shaker or stall warning, what could possibly cause the PF to increase thrust to max and apply sufficient forward column force to pitch "rapidly" to 49 deg. nose down? I could see a medical situ...

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1730
Views: 391873

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Shanasta wrote:
I wonder if Feith let the geenie out of the bottle, forcing the NTSB to release.


The report cites "column input". Is that still consistent with the autopilot being in control?

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5479
Views: 722206

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Is Boeing becoming like US car makers? Building new products that are so far behind technological progress that buyers turn towards foreign makers who make much better and cheaper stuff. Is the 737 MAX the SUV of short-haul? Really???? Tesla???? Good point, the US may need a Tesla of aviation. A st...

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1730
Views: 391873

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

The NTSB just posted an update here: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/DCA19MA086.aspx. One thing to note is: “Also, about this time, the FDR data indicated that some small vertical accelerations consistent with the airplane entering turbulence. Shortly after, when the airplane’s indicated ...

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1730
Views: 391873

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

"Crew communications consistent with a loss control of the aircraft began approximately 18 seconds prior to the end of the recording." I am so grateful for the professionalism of the NTSB. To me this implies a loss of situational awareness; they would have been in a dive attitude for long...

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1730
Views: 391873

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Stop with the FedEx 706 references already. It's just self-aggrandizing -- trying to sound knowledgeable because one can cite to some esoteric (and never-repeated) occurrence. Woo-hoo! Not gonna lie, the FedEx flight had crossed my mind, but with the release of preliminary CVR review consistent wit...

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by VeeCee
Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas
Replies: 1730
Views: 391873

Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-release ... 90305.aspx
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Initial review of CVR complete.

"Crew communications consistent with a loss control of the aircraft began approximately 18 seconds prior to the end of the recording."

https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-release ... 90305.aspx

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by VeeCee
Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gatwick drone closures
Replies: 547
Views: 70546

Re: Gatwick closed because of 2 drones

Looks like departures are resuming. Slowly.

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by VeeCee
Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gatwick drone closures
Replies: 547
Views: 70546

Re: Gatwick closed because of 2 drones

Now some one is posting pictures in Twitter from the drone viewpoint. Can’t say for sure if he is the operator or not. https://twitter.com/frizfrizzle/status/1075777515434631169?s=21 Prank. The photos are from a Daily Fail article. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3734916/The-...

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by VeeCee
Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gatwick drone closures
Replies: 547
Views: 70546

Re: Gatwick closed because of 2 drones

The gritty remake of Die Hard 2 lacks something...

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by VeeCee
Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Missing Flight from Kitabe to Nairobe 6-5-2018
Replies: 12
Views: 5335

Re: Missing Flight from Kitabe to Nairobe 6-5-2018

For those who don't twitter: Press Statement For Immediate Release We confirm that we have reports of a missing flight Reg 5YCAC from Kitale to Nairobi JKIA Operated by Fly Sax. The flight las was seen on radar at 14:02 this afternoon at 40 nautical miles from Nairobi, flying at 11,000ft above sea l...

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by VeeCee
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL, 1 fatality
Replies: 720
Views: 122572

Re: WN 1380 LGA-DAL emergency landing at PHL, 1 fatality

Am I wrong for not liking the reports in the media/social media that 'a pilot' helped saved the lives of flight WN 1380. That pilot. the Captain was former NAVY pilot and is a woman. But no mention of the FO and the Cabin Crew? Maybe I'm just being crabby. No, it's just like everyone knows that Sul...

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by VeeCee
Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Malaysian Airlines MH17 Crashes In Ukraine Part 2
Replies: 194
Views: 84486

RE: Malaysian Airlines MH17 Crashes In Ukraine Part 2

It looks like it was off course from the route flown the past few days <center><table align="center" border="0" width="650" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td><a href="/uf/view.file?id=198939&filename=phpciV6R8.jpeg" target="_blank"><img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/198939/middle/ph...

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by VeeCee
Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Malaysian Airlines MH17 Crashes In Ukraine Part 2
Replies: 194
Views: 84486

RE: Malaysian Airlines MH17 Crashes In Ukraine Part 2

I think someone was requesting this: <center><table align="center" border="0" width="650" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td><a href="/uf/view.file?id=198939&filename=phpXgHizU.jpeg" target="_blank"><img src="http://cdn-www.airliners.net/uf/198939/middle/phpXgHizU.jpeg" width="648" height="...

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