Is this one also a -ULR, like the one the German government just took? Or just a standard A359? The A350-900ACJ is a derivation of the ULR ( increased fuel capacity ) and should have a max range of 20.000 km What confuses me is that the German Air Force says it has a range of 15.000 km ( standard A...
Jump to postI would expect them to look into a scenario where two frames with different fuselage widths (one for NSA and one for NMA) could be built on the same line, which will improve the profitability of an NMA sized plane. If they could do this, it could change aviation manufacturing forever. I expect more...
Jump to postWhile waiting I made 3 (panic) bathroom breaks and people looked at me like a complete weirdo as I was really in a hurry each time. I really didn't want to miss the take off. I even watched the video feed during a team lunch meeting... :) I didn't find the wait boring at all with all the ATC calls,...
Jump to postIt’s really a very, very beautiful plane. And it will fly soon. Not wasted time ... even watching it standing around with my 7 year old son for hours until he fell asleep :roll: Saying this as a guy how last week joined about 25 people from Airbus watching automation strategies at BMW regarding manu...
Jump to postLet's see it the simple way. There is absolutely no mean the total volume available for fuel in the wing on the A350-1000 can be bigger than that of the A350-900. It is just physics. Both aircraft have the same wing planform. Anyone who dares to say something otherwise is absolutely wrong. Please e...
Jump to postSeems dubious to me. Since you provided no link I did a bunch of Google searches and found nothing like what you report with regards to workers moving from NMA to MAX. Maybe there is something in German language google.de but I could find nothing on google.com. Also seems this is best discussed in ...
Jump to postBoeing needing to cut back on investment pending MAX return to service and 797 launch? The MAX fiasco is certainly hitting Boeing hard. Aside from dropping/mothballing the 778, in another thread it's claimed all engineers that were working on NMA have now been moved to MAX which will impact that si...
Jump to postObviously the 2707, which is already more mature than most expect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_2707
Bjorn has an article on LH which I foun very enlithening at least: https://leehamnews.com/2019/03/22/bjorns-corner-the-ethiopian-airlines-flight-302-crash-part-2/ "Blowback". Just when you thought it couldn't get any more complicated! . Hmm. The article is talking elevator blowback. Would...
Jump to postBjorn has an article on LH which I foun very enlithening at least:
https://leehamnews.com/2019/03/22/bjorn ... sh-part-2/
Unfortunately, the above links are somewhat obsolete. Today‘s annual report contains a fleet overview as of December 31st 2018. Go to page 20: https://investor-relations.lufthansagroup.com/fileadmin/downloads/en/financial-reports/annual-reports/LH-AR-2018-e_dkuU2qtT.pdf The link is on spot regardin...
Jump to postAre the the 20x 777-9s still confirmed? Quoting CEO Spohr from the ongoing press conference: 34 777-9 will come, initially to FRA. Did he actually say "34"? The LH-page suggest 36 aquisitions between now and 2025 (2 are 77W for LX still outstanding): https://investor-relations.lufthansagr...
Jump to postThe A350 is shown in LH-colours only at LH web-page, while the 787-9 is shown in all 3 liveries (Swiss, Austrian, LH) including LH itself.
Jump to postGermany bans airspace for 737-MAX(-8)
https://www.n-tv.de/newsletter/breaking ... 02500.html
MileHFL400 wrote:What stood out to me is four of the -9’s will replace much smaller -200’s.
And that they will only be configured with 325 seats?!
So what went wrong with the 787-3 back then? Isn't this the aircraft they finally want? Now that they build more 787 and have optimized details a cheaper production cost must be possible. Even adding another new custom wing should be cheaper than building some 797 from scratch? The 787-3 was not op...
Jump to postI wonder would Airbus decide to do an A330-700 or A330-600 with the same engines as a 797? - new wing - new undercarriage - new empennage - same engines as any MoM Wonder what the program cost would be relative to a 797 and what the relative performance would be. Could Airbus do both an A322 and a ...
Jump to postIt’s interesting how naïve a lot of contributors here are. It seems that people really think you can take a design / simulation engineer – which is working on some A320neo+ using ANSYS or CATIA - and just shift that gay to the production plan-ning staff and – magically – give him some “tasks” to imp...
Jump to postNope this is completely wrong. Making a 787-9 shrink will weigh many tons more than a standard 787-8. This means fuel burn will easily be 1-2% more on the vast majority of routes the 787-8 flies. That's millions of dollars per year in extra fuel for each aircraft just to add 1000nm extra range that...
Jump to postHe probably meant 6. 000 kg or 6 t which is about correct. :shock: Most of the 787 advances are based on more modern aerodynamics, the weight and capabilities between the A330-900 and a 787-9 are very very close. Up until about 2000 nm the full burn will be nearly equal, however even a A330-300 has ...
Jump to postIt's just much bulkier / "fatter" than a 737. The "fuse diameter" is more than a 777, but overall it's not that long and width.
Jump to postWonderful news! I'm glad it hasn't been bought by one of the EU3. Consolidation is bad for consumers, but this is great news. I'm not sure if this news is "wonderful". Lauda isn't exactly known for running airlines successful. He failed at least 3 times. He didn’t exactly act that soverei...
Jump to postI thought we all came to the agreement that Boeing's MOM would be a tight 8ab? With the same cabin length that provides 88% the capacity if the 9ab 788. The longest MOM member would be shorter, so at most 85% capacity of the 788. Then the shorter length MOM's would probably be 65% and 75% capacity ...
Jump to postAfter 12 pages, I still would like to know the big negative behind this rumor? Is it because said airlines are inquiring about the 767 over the beloved and most favored status A321 and A330? [...] People here seem to forget that airframe manufacturers and airlines don't exist primarily to stick the...
Jump to postBut the question still remains (7knm or not). Why buy the 330-9 NEO?-than the 789 Because you can get it earlier? Well v few airlines are buying right now.Indeed many are pushing their existing orders back.Boeing is upping production too to eliminate any potential weakness there. Because it's bette...
Jump to postThis won't be a single aisle - deal with it. Wow, somebody really doesn't want this to be a single aisle... No. In fact I initially liked the idea of a wider single aisle. However ANYTHING we hear from leaks and interviews with Boeing and Airlines SINCE at least 6 month ALLWAYS refer to a new light...
Jump to postThe fuselage is only marginally higher than the 737's. If the scale would be realistic for both this would be a single aisle, unless it is real flat cross section. Personally I feel a wide single aisle would be more competitive than a small WB. This was discussed a thousand times. Articles in aviat...
Jump to postThis time, Boeing will have a clean sheet type. Airbus is upgrading. It will be interesting. Like the original A350 vs. the B787. Its interesting in that people (and I'd wager, airlines) have already vastly different mindsets to an upgraded A321 compared to the A330. Why people always assume that a...
Jump to postPumping up shares by receiving government "investments" cannot mask the ugly truth. Everyone mentions how wonderful of an airplane the C-series is, but for some reason nobody wants to get near it. I've said it before and I say it again, this plane has proven to be an overkill for its segm...
Jump to postLessors are not airlines! Sure. Now the real question is will he pay the additional costs demanded by a clean sheet approach? Just saying you're "more interested" isn't enough. Remember that Steven Udvar-Hazy, also named the Godfather of the aircraft leasing industry, was one of the drivi...
Jump to postThe MOM will A) Be not ready before 2015 for EIS, so the current downturn of the economy may very well turn out to be exactly the opposite than and B) The MOM ist not really a widebody in the size of the 787, even less the 777. It will be designed as an opener for medium-long range LCC operations, a...
Jump to postIf you do an all CFRP fuselage and redo everything else from wingbox over MLG to wings and engines, why would you not optimize the fuselage for the lower MTOW? You will need a new production line anyway and in the end it is just laying the carbon fibre matts less thick and at a different angle. The...
Jump to postFor short flights a lower cruise speed could be a good option. On medium 2000-3000NM flights it could become a burden. If the wing has morphing / load elevation / adjustable wingtips, maybe the wing could dynamically be optimized for different speeds, so it would be up to the crew/operator to decid...
Jump to postI think the next big ting is LCCs expansion into the medium to long haul market. Currently only a few have tried, and it seems only Norwegian is successful. "Airlines interested in Boeing MOM concept" is the topic, but very little has been said about the needs of LCCs. The LCC model means...
Jump to postI would'nt take the specific phrase from Leeham by word. Yes, the MOM has and will be considerably bigger than an A321 to avoid any "easy" awnser from Airbus e.g. A322. However the numbers in 3-class configuration may or may not be correct, or at least they are with 7 abreast Y, 6 abreast ...
Jump to postLD3/45 seem a little bit small for the predicted length of the fuselage and numbers of pax. And by "improved 767 fuselage" I mean something mostly metal with a not much changed cross section, compared to a fancy wide oval. But than their's not much left of the 767. It's essentially a new ...
Jump to postWhy is everyone focused on 2x3x2 for a twin aisle MOM? Boeing seriously considered 2x2x2 with the 80s/90s 7J7 design. It had a 13.6ft diameter fuselage (compared to the A320 13.0ft). I remember seeing cross-section drawings that showed a 1x2x1 premium class and a 2x2x2 economy class with17" ec...
Jump to postA single aisle with a stretch to as long as 753 and a wing that'll do 4000nm with ifs own volume (no ACTs). There will be a slightly shorter version A321 length that will go further. The wing will be carbon and look sexy and long and the fuselage may or may not be. The engines will have gears and t...
Jump to postLet us look at possible options. Imho for twin aisles the smallest possible solution is 767 size. Which means around 210 seat in two class configuration for the smaller version and around 270 seats, this would fit in between the 737 and the 787-9. We can also say from rumours and sales of previous ...
Jump to postThe problem is no matter how often people repeat it, it won't change the decision by Boeing and i guess they played with option for quite a while. A sligthly larger NB was shurely considered over and over again. But i guess they come to the point where it has to be really long and thin to get it int...
Jump to postSomething able to haul 350 pax in single class configuration is no competition to the A321 anyway. That's the whole point of the MOM and this strategy is correct IMO. We allready discussed that month ago and even than my opinion - and that of other like Matt - was that the MOM is not a better A321....
Jump to postSure, nearly A332 size in single class with 5000nm+ range, without any disadvantage against the A321.... OFC there are disadvantages, but it's not as severe as some allways thought it is. "It only can be a single aisle" is just an to easy assumption. And of course if it is designed as a p...
Jump to post@MATT That's exactly the point. They'll build a plane capable of a sardine 2-4-2 (17” seats, 1,5” armrest, about 20” aisle) and LD3/45. The more- and more common Y+ class will get 2-3-2 with 19” seats, 2” armrests and 21” aisles. Plus the option for 1-1-1 in business. The fuse witness could be even ...
Jump to postseahawk wrote:Strong indication that the Mom launch is close.
I can't imagine a twin aisle being more efficient than a longer single aisle. Compare the same capacity, age, 757 and 762. OEW differs significantly. A big single aisle, with wider fuselage/ aisle for quick deboarding and twin aisle premium class option, dedicated wingsets for short and medium rang...
Jump to postThe NMA/MOM will fill all the gap up to a 787-9 in the long run. Cargo profits and fares are constantly erroding, so there is no need for LD3-capabillities. The fuse will probably be designed to be 2-4-2 in sardine configuartion, 195" wide fuse is enough for that. With this numbers in mind you ...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/enzo011" class="quote" target="_blank">enzo011</a> (<a href="#32" class="quote">Reply 32</a>):<br/><i>Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 31): And yet the a...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/seahawk" class="quote" target="_blank">seahawk</a> (<a href="#22" class="quote">Reply 22</a>):<br/><i>Better than 3-3-3 787.</i></font></td></tr...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/CARST" class="quote" target="_blank">CARST</a> (<a href="#2" class="quote">Reply 2</a>):<br/><i>Going with what Stich said and assuming the 737-...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/Amiga500" class="quote" target="_blank">Amiga500</a> (<a href="#102" class="quote">Reply 102</a>):<br/><i>Quoting dare100em (Reply 101): But the...
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