I've a feeling AA and B6 will merge in the future. I agree. What's the end-game if not? If AA/B6 build up their networks to depend on each other in NYC/BOS (B6 for domestic/AA for international), how do they ever exist in the future without each other? AA building a massive international network at...
Jump to postDL has downgraded all their BOS-LAX service to 738s, but the cost of a FC ticket is just about the same as B6 is asking for a Mint seat and service. As a Diamond medallion flyer, I suppose I could always buy coach, get an automatic upgrade to Comfort +, and hope for an upgrade to FC. But who would ...
Jump to postI've a feeling AA and B6 will merge in the future. I agree. What's the end-game if not? If AA/B6 build up their networks to depend on each other in NYC/BOS (B6 for domestic/AA for international), how do they ever exist in the future without each other? AA building a massive international network at...
Jump to postHere were the Q3 2019 PDEW's of top domestic destinations without nonstop service from SLC: SLC-BUF - 66 SLC-ROC - 60 SLC-BDL - 55 SLC-RIC - 55 SLC-ELP - 46 SLC-JAX - 45 SLC-ORF - 44 SLC-SDF - 40 SLC-GRR - 38 SLC-CHS - 36 Not one of those airport pairs has a count high enough to fill an aircraft wi...
Jump to postReally odd to see AA starting more new international service during a pandemic than it did pre-pandemic, when traffic was exponentially larger. Even with the B6 partnership, I can't see how many of these aren't going to be massive money losers. AA's recent pushes have seemed like opportunistic moves...
Jump to postAA has not "closed" their hub at PHX. Whether they close it in the future, I've not heard anything there. Regardless, I disagree. The PHX metropolitan area is massive (10th in US) and is growing at a rapid pace. St. Louis is 20th (barely growing), CLE is 34th (declining), and PIT is 27th ...
Jump to postIf anyone should be blamed for monopoly practices is Delta. There are several routes from LGA served only by Delta. They control almost half LGA's slots. Jetblue is almost non existent at LGA. Even with an AA + Jetblue marriage, Delta is still a distant No1. One of Jetblue's main arguments for the ...
Jump to posthttps://www.wsj.com/articles/american-jetblue-alliance-draws-increased-scrutiny-from-justice-department-11618423182 Any ideas on what the plan would be for AA/B6 if the current administration walks back the approval of this alliance? Looks as though Delta is getting pissy, they don't know what to d...
Jump to postGrowth, growth, growth! Austin and Raleigh the biggest winners once again. Just to clarify, it really isnt. AA is significantly smaller than when this all began fleet wise. And even smaller revenue wise This a legacy making smart decisions to try to maximize leisure domestic and close-in internatio...
Jump to postThis was amazing! Thanks for taking us on a trip back in time!
Jeremy
Not sure that you can hold them to the same standards. They do no have the same role as Joe Public. If a crime is being committed, Joe Public can walk away. Kneeling on the back of an unarmed person until they die can not be the same across the board? Really?? They DO have the same role as Joe Publ...
Jump to postDetroit313 wrote:BOS - ATH would surprise many with its performance same way AA's ORD - ATH exceeded every expectation.
Look, I wasn't trying to be a jerk earlier and yes there was a bit of hyperbole. The reality is that while there is an increase in ULCC/LCCs into ATL, the bigger threat to DL's business model is if they are unable to command a yield premium. Not just in ATL, but across the network. Passengers are w...
Jump to postAffirmative action in the public arena is illegal in many states including large ones like California. Private companies should tread very carefully if they attempt to use race and gender as hiring or promotion criteria. Also irony is that a white male might be considered the minority in parts of t...
Jump to postI'm just not sure what you are arguing, but there absolutely zero indication DL is ignoring ATL. 1) Recent LCC growth will degrade ATL profitability from prior levels 2) Previous strategic elements such as the following will become harder to maintain: own the local O&D… …DL was getting people w...
Jump to postNK & F9 are not a meaningful threat to DL in ATL. If anything they are a net benefit to the local market as they offer service at a price point that promotes additional discressionary travel and/or gets people to fly versus drive. DL is not meaningfully price-match much in this category. They o...
Jump to postAre you kidding? DL’s ATL hub continues to be the largest airline hub on earth. Not at all! And Eastern was once one of the largest airlines on earth. If ATL is suddenly in jeopardy from ULCCs than every other US airline hub is in big trouble. Don't misunderstand. What ATL is "in big trouble&q...
Jump to postDL has been as profitable as it has been because of its ability to dominate ATL, DTW, MSP and SLC. You sound very confident about this. But do you realize that LCC/ULCC's now operate nonstop from ATL to 60+ airports ? The LCC/ULCC's grew slowly but steadily in ATL, and today the combination of Sout...
Jump to postI don't quite understand this AUS hype or the need for DL to be large there. They really have no easy path to 25% market share or the legacy of choide. That's crazy talk. DL will re-orient their network like all the other major carriers. It's pretty obvious with their recent pilot bid that SEA will...
Jump to postDelta has made JFK - ATH year round based on their latest schedule update. That makes Delta the second airline after Emirates to have year-round service to Athens from the US. American Airlines should try it too. ORD - ATH or PHL - ATH could definitely work year-round on a 787-8. The perfect aircra...
Jump to postThis is the kind of thing that makes the NBA teams' insurers happy they have their insured players flying on a DL CMI operation. Sure, in theory, any qualified pilot could handle this situation, but everyone sleeps a little better knowing the kind of training and experience a DL crew like this one ...
Jump to postPHL can connect you to anywhere in Europe from anywhere in the US. JFK simply cannot do that. Even Delta that is much bigger at JFK cannot connect most of the US to Europe from there. They'd love to have an East Coast gateway to Europe too like AA has PHL or United Newark. Untrue. DL's hub at JFK (...
Jump to postUSPIT10L wrote:US took deliveries of A330-200s starting in 1998. The A330-300s were delivered beginning in 2006, as you mentioned. The 330-200s were originally used on routes like PITCDG, PITFRA and CLTCDG.
I think the answer is when business travel recovers. Leisure has significantly recovered and at smaller airports like FAR and BIS the mainline carrier has a good chunk of that leisure segment. At bigger airports like ORD, MKE and MCI there are ample nonstop flights to most of the best-recovered mar...
Jump to postGreat to see DL finally being more aggressive with opportunistic adds. It was shocking how quiet things have been for DL over this last year.
Jeremy
DeltaRules wrote:What's the breakdown of metal used on these flights? The News Hub story says "mainline aircraft like the 737-900", but DTW/JFK-ANC would be a heck of a haul for a 739, wouldn't they? (ATL-ANC is a 763).
Though admittedly not a DL "Fan Boy" - I can admit that this is a considerate move forward for Alaska, as far as DL is concerned. Of the expansions, most are to the closest (and thus most logical) DL hubs. A lack of P2P flying here speaks to a much more conventional approach, and while co...
Jump to postWhen is DL going to launch LAX-ORD? That seems to be a major missing route for them at LAX. I dont see DL adding LAX-OR right now, although it could be a good A220 route for the?... Why go up against both UA and AA on LAX-ORD that have hubs on both ends. Lots of competition on the route and pretty ...
Jump to postI might have missed it, but looks like Delta pushing back the restart of some international: LAX-PVG, MSP-HND, SEA-BJS, CVG-CDG, PDX-AMS/HND, ATL-STR restarts moved to July When did Delta pull LAX-CDG? PDX-HND: - Start date of 7/1 with the A332 (not sure if it's daily already, or a few times per we...
Jump to postWhat about a low-cost airline? I'm surprised Salt Lake City has neither Spirit, nor Allegiant, and only very little Frontier. it seems to be full service airlines only. I can totally see Spirit or Frontier make Salt Lake City work for them. They've probably avoided it because of the low O&D. SL...
Jump to postchunhimlai wrote:The size limited the growth of MSP and they should build the new airport supposed in 90s
MSP stinks at moving traffic, too. They only have 2 runways in use at any given time, and they run takeoffs and landings on both simultaneously. It’s inefficient at best. Plus that walk from A to F is absolutely the stupidest, most asinine thing, especially if the tram is out. This is false. Pre-co...
Jump to postDEN is over served and most of the state growth seems to be a bit of a fad. Lot's of people come and go from living out there (take it from me, I was one of them.) Eventually things should soften out a bit and airlines will have to adjust (although they probably already have due to COVID). I will a...
Jump to postI'd almost compare it to DEN instead. The markets are of similar size but DEN has really exploded in recent years and is a triple hub, while MSP is still basically just Delta-land with some SY thrown in. Technically the MSP metro area is larger than DEN's, but MSP has pretty consistently remained i...
Jump to postLack of tourism in Minnesota. Also, while there are a good number of Fortune 500 companies with their HQ in the area, a lot of these companies are in industries that don't travel as much as others. MSP punches well above its weight for its population. There's not a lack of anything. In fact, MSP is...
Jump to postWhat is it with UA and issues with flights going to/coming from Hawaii? Coincidences of course, but a little eerie how many accidents and issues have occurred with UA Hawaiian flights.
Jeremy
Nice report! I sure do miss BA 767s.
Jeremy
I can understand wanting to lose the Mccarran name due to the racist and anti sematic background, but honestly, they should have gone for a neutral name like Las Vegas International. Harry has done a lot for Las Vegas and Nevada, but something neutral would be better. Why? And neutral is not neutra...
Jump to postBased on JonNYC tweet, it seems like AA is looking to add SEA-HKG, which would be quite an interesting move. Does AA know something about the international travel market that everyone else doesn't? AA can't even make JFK-LHR work more than once daily currently, but there's talk of starting SEA-HKG?...
Jump to postMy bet is that AA is going to print money on MIA-TLV. Cant understand why they didnt do this much, much, much earlier. AA is the least profitable of the major USA airlines, before and after the COVID pandemic. TLV may be a good deployment of assets for now, but it’s not enough to address AA’s laggi...
Jump to posthttps://paxex.aero/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/jetblue-nea-growth-plans.jpg I think this is the important one to look at. I must say that I don't know if this will be the reality, but rather their current plan. For example, will there be enough demand post-pandemic to support 220 to 240 flights at J...
Jump to postThanks for doing this, it really helps to understand the state of the industry as a whole and where each carrier falls.
Jeremy
I can’t remember the last time AA flew non-stop BOS-LAX. My March trip has, just today, been routed through PHX westbound and Charlotte eastbound. Meanwhile, DL keeps their BOS-LAX flights going, and I wonder whether loyalty on that route will now shift from historically dominant AA to DL. I would ...
Jump to postAA is back to pre-COVID frequencies on a majority of their routes from DFW for March, similar story for CLT but slightly less for most routes. Coastal hubs (except MIA) are still significantly down. Any idea how many flights will be out of both DFW and CLT for March? Maybe DFW will come out of this...
Jump to postDelta cannot fly widebodies to even London, Paris and Amsterdam at the moment. You think they are interested in buying more? Huh? That’s all DL is flying to those places at the moment. AA hasn’t sold their 332s because nobody wants them, not sure why anyone would think DL has the need for additiona...
Jump to postThere’s a lot of delusional here with all this speculation about the country’s weakest airline financially, operating in the worst international environment we’ve ever seen, out of an entirely new “hub” suddenly starting all of these incredibly expensive international flights against already entrenc...
Jump to postI am surprised AA hasn't sold its relatively new A332's (RR engines) to DL. Their A333 P&W are really older. Delta cannot fly widebodies to even London, Paris and Amsterdam at the moment. You think they are interested in buying more? Huh? That’s all DL is flying to those places at the moment. A...
Jump to postDetroit313 wrote:Nobody does a beverage service on domestic flights of less than 1500 miles. They give you a little bag with a water, a wipe and a snack.
dalmit wrote:Looks like Delta was able to sell 7 767s.
https://thepointsguy.com/news/amazon-buys-delta-767s/
Are these the 76Ts ? Or the older 76Z version 2s?
jmc1975 wrote:What is the rationale behind having DFW-EUG/SGU/YUM/SBP/MRY/STS while neglecting DFW-ROC/ALB/SYR/PVD/ROA?