Its global from what I understand. If you look at all the tickets sales SQ gets out of each port, WLG is the highest where SQ doesnt currently serve. Same with EK. So SQ sells more tickets ex-WLG than it does from the likes of bigger *A hubs and cities like ORD, YYZ, and ARN, etc? And EK gets more ...
Jump to postIts global from what I understand. If you look at all the tickets sales SQ gets out of each port, WLG is the highest where SQ doesnt currently serve. Same with EK. So SQ sells more tickets ex-WLG than it does from the likes of bigger *A hubs and cities like ORD, YYZ, and ARN, etc? And EK gets more ...
Jump to postWLG is the biggest unserved airport by ticket sales for Emirates and Singapore Airlines. They said "Wellington is the largest market for SQ that they currently don't fly to by tickets sold - the same is true for EK." What does "the largest market" mean? Presumably in New Zealand...
Jump to postAbsolutely agree with what you've said, the only thing I would add is that as well as the markets ex Australia being substantially larger by volume, they are also substantially wealthier at the individual pax level, so overall they can bring much more into the pot for NZ ( when it has the capacity)...
Jump to postYes but the competition is a lot larger too, as are the planes and frequencies. It's all relative. Not for the market that NZ is trying to access - North American/Pacific Island. ADL, CNS not well connected - OOL/MCY within drive to BNE so yes more competition but the same as QF/JQ will face at HLZ...
Jump to postBack to the possibility of connections from Australia to secondary NZ ports: I know that there has been speculation that this would be JQ, but I wouldn't rule out QF at all. My reasoning: * QF (Cam Wallace) recently went on record saying that they were exploring the possibility of services to secon...
Jump to postAlso , don't think Aucklanders appreciate how much people WLG south hate transitting AKL. Transit via same terminal at SYD/MEL is a way better experience than the shambles AKL offers. Also i'd like to think that locals actually want to support competition and international services in their cities ...
Jump to postAs for booking on Qantas website anyway, what's annoying is if you're trying to do Y across the Tasman and then J as you suggest to bring costs down, you can't actually book this. It has to be all J or all Y and the only time it gives the Y option across the Tasman is if the J seats are all full bu...
Jump to postAs a resident of Wellington the trans-tasman is nice an all. Yet the only real impact is improved connections through Qantas hubs. I think for most travellers the end to end travel time and simplicity is more important than price or brand loyalty. Problem for Air NZ is that there are no obvious con...
Jump to postQF 737's ... they do have J and for a market like Wellington that is important. While J might have done well in WLG in the past, will it do in the future? Particularly with all the public service cuts and scrutiny of officials' travel? Its more the well-heeled Wellingtonians that are travelling pre...
Jump to postQantas adding more capacity on the Trans-Tasman from October, this time on BNE/MEL to CHC and MEL to WLG. https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/350225534/qantas-going-ramp-flights-three-trans-tasman-routes I thought people were saying there was no money to be made on the Tasman? There clearly isn't money ...
Jump to post- My pick is QF or JQ, as a bit of an 'up yours' to AIAL following their well-reported pricing increase plans. Agree JQ is probably the most likely (I dont see QF doing it). I wonder if it would then potentially open up some domestic ops as well - HLZ-WLG/CHC? I guess it depends on whether they use...
Jump to postReports are that yields on trans-Pacific routes are declining with supply now exceeding demand so, unless UA know something we don't, it is hard to see them adding more capacity at the moment. Then why are AA and DL launching BNE? Why is AA bringing forward its LAX-AKL service this NW, and DL going...
Jump to postQantas is removing the E190 from the BNE-WLG route. :'( Upgauging to the B737-800 instead. https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/350202738/fantastic-demand-sees-qantas-add-bigger-planes-wellington-brisbane-route 'fantastic demand' Hmm. Whilst in know that loads dont mean profit, fantastic demand on a new ...
Jump to postQantas is removing the E190 from the BNE-WLG route. :'( Upgauging to the B737-800 instead. https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/350202738/fantastic-demand-sees-qantas-add-bigger-planes-wellington-brisbane-route Was just about to post this haha. 600 additional seats per week, big increase Not sure about t...
Jump to posthey need to do something. I need to go to CHC on 15 Mar for a one day return work trip. 10 days out there are no seats back to Wellington after 16:05 on a ATR. Air NZ are not providing a service or meeting demand. ATR's are little more than a joke on on a prime sector on a peak travel day. The late...
Jump to postThey aren't likely to come back and I'm a bit puzzled why New Zealanders are so keen for them to return. New Zealanders didn't really support them last time so, unless it is just for a planespotting opportunity, I don't get it. Ummm.... more capacity=lower fares? Even if you dont fly them you benef...
Jump to postZQN pax numbers in the six months to 31 Dec up 31% on pre-Covid levels, and the airport will be paying out a dividend. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/queenstown-airport-passenger-numbers-recover-fully-from-pandemic-53m-dividend-for-shareholders/24CRWZTM6VANRNBVYEZ7AXSTLU/ How sustainable is al...
Jump to postLoads seem to be good BITRE for November released today Inbound LF 85%, outbound 88% https://www.bitre.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/International_airline_activity_1123.pdf Citilink on the other hand 28% inbound and 35% outbound Batik AKL flights 48% inbound 76% outbound Does the Batik fligh...
Jump to postApparently tomorrow’s Philippine Airlines flight to PER is cancelled, Saturday’s flight is upgraded to 77W Interesting they are going to 77W. How popular is this route? Not heard much about how it’s going. Loads seem to be good BITRE for November released today Inbound LF 85%, outbound 88% https://...
Jump to postI just can't see SQ doing particularly well in CBR as most flyers would have some QF status and would prefer QF anyway. Just look at Virgin or Rex - CBR is just a notoriously difficult market for them. QR being part of one-world could get more of the QF status flyers, however the network focus on E...
Jump to postI was curious if anyone had any insight into J price points across the Tasman from QF when it comes to different ports from NZ to Australia. For example, QF are running a sale at the moment and while economy prices are similar from AKL, WLG, CHC, in Business class there are huge differences. Lookin...
Jump to postHi all, just trying to get my head around Air NZ's neo fleet additons over the next year or two. According to Planespotters.net they have currently: 6x A320Neo Internationals 7xA321Neo Internationals 4xA321Neo Domestics (all parked at the moment) Total 17 In their latest investor presentation they a...
Jump to postHas there always been an engineer to do routine inspections in WLG? I didn't think there was but interesting to know if that's changed in the last 10yrs or if it has always been like that WLG has LAME/ramp engineers for the Q300s and ATRs The engineers who did the engine change came up from CHC, wi...
Jump to postI can't see it. NZ already has it covered. Given NZ's aircraft limitations probably makes sense for UA to take it over as part of their JV? Highly doubt this will happen. While NZ and UA have a JV for New Zealand-USA flights, they're still competitors in the Australia-USA corridor. NZ will want to ...
Jump to postplanemanofnz wrote:chcbasedavi wrote:IAH-AKL
I can't see it. NZ already has it covered.
TK finally got the green light. https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/turkish-airlines-granted-extra-flights-to-australia-in-new-deal-20231218-p5es7d.html The article mentioned that other nations had their air rights updated, including France. I remember reading on here a while back that QF wer...
Jump to postSorry if this has been covered before, but did we ever settle on whether a full SQ 359 could take off from WLG to SIN? The original issue was whether the 359 could operate from WLG at all. The Astra report http://www.connectwellington.co.nz/static/documents/22%20WIAL%20Runway%20Extension%20-%20Revi...
Jump to postI think they mean non-stop. Yes I think they did They did, thanks :lol: Sorry if this has been covered before, but did we ever settle on whether a full SQ 359 could take off from WLG to SIN? I can tell you that a full SQ A359 cannot fly from WLG to SIN. A 100% pax load may be possible given only 25...
Jump to postAir NZ is back to double daily AKL - SIN from 31 March 2024 and a combination of 789 and 77W flying. They certainly could do with more wide body aircraft. https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231215-nzns24sin ... and the 77W replacing the 789 for multiple periods, including during part of June. Bring bac...
Jump to postThere all sorts of issues with these numbers that you cant just conclude services arent viable: - SYD/MEL/BNE signficantly stimulated by the non-stop services that already exist and have done for decades - Plus there will be a proportion of the ADL/PER OD market which has been allocated to SYD/MEL/...
Jump to postADL and PER O&D figures with the US are a lot less than I was expecting. AU-US PDEW numbers LAX-SYD: 299 LAX-MEL: 159 LAX-ADL: 22 LAX-PER: 12 SFO-SYD: 103 SFO-MEL: 54 SFO-PER: 7 SFO-ADL: 6 (Source: a post by LAXdude1023 in the UA Network thread today - https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic....
Jump to postSome more interesting figures posted by LAXdude1023 on the UA network thread today about the size of US-NZ traffic. NZ-US PDEW numbers, averaged across Q2 and Q3 2023 : LAX-AKL: 114 SFO-AKL: 36 NYC-AKL: 22 No other city pair was more than 20. LAX-CHC: 19 SFO-CHC: 8 Source: https://www.airliners.net...
Jump to postSome more interesting figures posted by LAXdude1023 on the UA network thread today about the size of US-NZ traffic. NZ-US PDEW numbers, averaged across Q2 and Q3 2023 : LAX-AKL: 114 SFO-AKL: 36 NYC-AKL: 22 No other city pair was more than 20. LAX-CHC: 19 SFO-CHC: 8 Source: https://www.airliners.net...
Jump to postDisappointing news from S8 (albeit now old news). The entry into service of Heart Aerospace electric planes at S8 has been pushed back from 2026 to some time between 2028 and 2030. https://3rdlevelnz.blogspot.com/2023/12/delayed.html This isnt new news and I dont see it as being disappointing. When...
Jump to postI've been offline for a month, and have just caught up with the Aus Av threads. I want to apologise here as I posted something in relation to the AU-France Bilateral Agreement at the end of October that I've since found was incorrect. The register of available capacity isn't worded all that well, a...
Jump to postThe load factor at the SFO-CHC route looks full https://www.united.com/en/us/fsr/choose-flights?f=SFO&t=CHC&d=2023-12-08&tt=1&sc=7&px=1&taxng=1&newHP=True&clm=7&st=bestmatches&tqp=R How can you tell? Are you looking at the seat map? If so looks like for the d...
Jump to postIUE ... Its as much a social service to one of New Zealand's associated countries. Is NZ in the business of providing 'social' services? After all, they have withdrawn from a number of New Zealand communities (WHK, WAG, KAT, PPQ, WSZ, etc). Appreciate IUE is slightly different though, and IIRC, the...
Jump to postSurprised they found the capacity for this, given the ongoing engine issues and HBA being suspended entirely during the NS 24 season. Tourism operators on Niue are “thrilled” after Air New Zealand announced a second weekly flight to the tiny Pacific island during autumn and winter next year. The na...
Jump to postHi there - does anyone know how many cockpit and cabin crew SQ have on each of their A350 configs? Medium-haul, Long-haul, and Ultra Long Haul.
Thanks
If domestic a320 capacity is going to be so tight over the next few years, due the NEO engine issues. Then why does NZ still keep space+, the domestic a321’s were delivered with a much less pitch for there domestic a321N’s. NZ’s CEO’s currently have 171 seats, JQ has 186 seats. So JQ fits a additio...
Jump to postGood list of the top ten routes thanks for sharing. I presume it's just for NZ and not both NZ and JQ. Looking at JQ next Monday as a datapoint AKL-WLG 5x AKL-CHC 6x AKL-ZQN 3x AKL-DUD 1x WLG-CHC 2x WLG-ZQN (not daily) Still feel like there could be some room for JQ to add WLG-DUD and CHC-ZQN even ...
Jump to postI would say so AKL- ZQN with ten 320s will be ahead of WLG- CHC 6 320s and 3 ATRs. Top 10 routes by capacity are (YEOct23): AKL-CHC/WLG (virtually the same), AKL-ZQN, CHC-WLG, AKL-DUD, AKL-NPE, AKL-NSN, AKL-PMR, WLG-ZQN, NSN-WLG Good list of the top ten routes thanks for sharing. I presume it's jus...
Jump to postAKL- ZQN is the 3rd busiest pax wise Is it seriously bigger than WLG-CHC? I would say so AKL- ZQN with ten 320s will be ahead of WLG- CHC 6 320s and 3 ATRs. Top 10 routes by capacity are (YEOct23): AKL-CHC/WLG (virtually the same), AKL-ZQN, CHC-WLG, AKL-DUD, AKL-NPE, AKL-NSN, AKL-PMR, WLG-ZQN, NSN-...
Jump to postToday is a busy day with the Queenstown marathon. AKL- ZQN 12 jet flights WLG- ZQN 4 jets CHC- ZQN 3 jets and 1 ATR All up 18 Airbus are flying domestic routes today Is AKL-ZQN our busiest domestic route? I would have though AKL-WLG or CHC would have been. Not even close. AKL-WLG or CHC are around ...
Jump to postWell that snuck under the radar. https://heartaerospace.com/newsroom/auckland-airport-joins-heart-aerospaces-industry-advisory-board/ New Zealand’s largest airport and one of the country’s most important infrastructure assets, Auckland Airport, joins Heart Aerospace’s Industry Advisory Board to sup...
Jump to postchcbasedavi wrote:https://simpleflying.com/24-day-airbus-a340-air-cruise-safrans-du-monde/
Seems like an A340 will visit CHC and ZQN. (how will an a340 fit in ZQN?)
Yes it’s pretty busy now. SQ A380 is back in 2 weeks. EK often uses gate 10. It would be great to see a photo of the US3 lined up next to each other at Pier B. It would be even cooler to see the 2x AA, 2x UA and 1x DL flight lined up together. The former should be possible - there are several fligh...
Jump to postIf you’ve ever been to the Gold Coast it seems like half the people there are Kiwis. I do think it’s a route that makes more sense for a leisure focused airline. Have they operated this sector before? Or is the trans Tasman ops new to D7? D7 previously operated OOL-AKL on the pre-Covid side which w...
Jump to postVietjet to fly to ADL, not non-stop from SGN, but instead onwards from PER, making for a 5x weekly service from SGN-PER-ADL https://simpleflying.com/vietjet-airbus-a330-tickets-australian-routes/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox-SF&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=Faceboo...
Jump to post